STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
After further review, I'm betting that it's the cost and the pride of not excepting money from the handsome neighbor who's farts smell like fish oil.
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The Tree Saga (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter Otis
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St. Louis Bob
Footballguy
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
Aren't problems like this why firms like yours hire summer interns, so that partners are not distracted and can devote their time to important matters? Tell one of your interns that in addition to the duties described to them that they will have the rare opportunity to pursue a matter on their own. They will be judged by their ingenuity and initiative.
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
Why not take this as an opportunity to audition for a job. Instead of sending out resumes show what you are made of. You know the problem, you have information generally about the location, find the home, find the tree, get it out of there. Your initiative may get you noticed.*Wait, so I can get a job? I'm still looking and I graduate in three weeks
* This is no offer or promise of employment. DW does not speak for Otis and has no authority to bind** Otis in any way.
**Get your minds out of the gutter.
Zow
Footballguy
I dunno, toss out some statutes, indicate any potential causes of action, cite the attorney's fees statute (which probably doesn't do anything for you, but whatever). You know, nasty legal stuff.
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Zow
Footballguy
Wait, so I can get a job? I'm still looking and I graduate in three weeks
I remember the time I was a 3L and my school had some program where, if somebody got an interview lined with an impressive firm, my school would pay travel expenses and hotel. So I hit up Otis to try to see if I could line up a "free" trip to NY for like a weekend thinking it'd be good FFA shtick. He was very generous and offered to hook me up with drinks and stuff but very diplomatically indicated that with my credentials he couldn't even set up a faux interview.
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
I bet I am credentialed enough to be his gardener. As for working in his firm, not so much. I am not even sure I could get past security in the lobby at his place posing as a potential client.
I remember the time I was a 3L and my school had some program where, if somebody got an interview lined with an impressive firm, my school would pay travel expenses and hotel. So I hit up Otis to try to see if I could line up a "free" trip to NY for like a weekend thinking it'd be good FFA shtick. He was very generous and offered to hook me up with drinks and stuff but very diplomatically indicated that with my credentials he couldn't even set up a faux interview.
mr. furley
Footballguy
she did it while we were away at work
tree #1 was maybe 4/5 feet tall and skinny. she sawed that ####### thing off at ground level.
tree #2 was a bit thicker but not something a kid couldn't have chopped down with enough time.
matttyl
Footballguy
Otis, just a ballpark here - but hiring someone to remove that will easily be a few grand. I had a tree removed recently from my yard - a variety of willow, which I had half removed myself but didn't feel like climbing a tree with a chainsaw. Cost was $800 and they never had to climb more than 10 or so feet off the ground - and were done in a few hours.
mr. furley
Footballguy
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Goes nicely with the power lines, no?Otis said:
Nathan R. Jessep
Footballguy
then sprinkle the sawdust, via your pants leg, around your yard as you walk around inspecting the perimeter
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
Is there such thing as a non-certified arborist?
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
That tree out to be quite a nice environment for bugs and termites or carpenter ants. also a nice attractant for woodpeckers once fully infested.
Buckychudd
Footballguy
Chop down some smaller saplings and put their trunks on a stake as a warning to the dead tree.
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Otis
Footballguy
You never told me that backstory. I could easily have sat down with you for an "interview" in my office.
I remember the time I was a 3L and my school had some program where, if somebody got an interview lined with an impressive firm, my school would pay travel expenses and hotel. So I hit up Otis to try to see if I could line up a "free" trip to NY for like a weekend thinking it'd be good FFA shtick. He was very generous and offered to hook me up with drinks and stuff but very diplomatically indicated that with my credentials he couldn't even set up a faux interview.
Otis
Footballguy
msudaisy26
Footballguy
My grandpa used to burn trees down from the top to the bottom, if you want to try that. He liked to drink though, a lot.
Otis
Footballguy
None of the other neighbors are close with her. It's been years since they've spoken to her. But remember, these are my neighbors on my street -- she's around the block on a different street, so I never see her or her neighbors.You've never seen her and she doesn't respond to reasonable and polite communication. Are you sure someone is living there? Maybe she's ded.
Do any of your neighbors that you've bothered to meet actually know her?
belljr
Footballguy
Yeah. I have a wooded lot to the side and behind me. The are behind me is TWp owned. The side is actually owned by the neigbor on the other street.
Similar story, I wrote letter about a tree over my yard, etc etc. I offered to pay for it. She said no problem. Got a quote it was like 1500
Tree is still there lol
chet
Footballguy
Come on. You're putting up roadblocks. Your properties abut. Surely you can find someone with one or two degrees of separation to introduce you. SHE'S YOUR NEIGHBOR!
You know the right way to handle this is with a little honey rather than vinegar. If the honey approach doesn't work, then move to something else but you've you've only made a half assed effort so far.
Nathan R. Jessep
Footballguy
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
WTF are you talking about? He went to her house and left messages. What else should he do? Kick down her door?
gianmarco
Footballguy
Nathan R. Jessep
Footballguy
Serious answer... just cut the limb or portion of the limb that hangs over your fence. How high off the ground is it? Long enough to take care of yourself with a pole-saw attachment? Hell if it's rotten enough, you may be able to throw a rope over it and just pull it down. Only potential problem I can think of is: do you have to notify them before/after you do said cutting of their tree that's on your property line or is it an arborous free-for-all?
gianmarco
Footballguy
chet
Footballguy
As I said above, the best route would be to get an introduction to her. She's an old lady. She probably threw away his notes with her junk mail. He needs to talk to her--if she's unreasonable then proceed accordingly. It demonstrates exceptionally bad judgement to threaten a neighbor without ever having talked to them or without having any kind of negative interaction with them.
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
matttyl
Footballguy
Looking again at that tree (specifically the branches on the right) and that there seems to be powerlines and a hedge (and likely other stuff directly below it) whoever is going to be taking it out would need a bucket truck and to "rope" each piece as they take it. Could be a multiday job, and could approach 5 figures.
Zow
Footballguy
I thought I told most of it. However, I'm also recalling that my school needed some sort official looking confirmation from you (presumably with letterhead and undoubtedly my school would have probably hounded you afterwards for more interviews) and you wisely turned that down.
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Zow
Footballguy
I would think the worst response possible would be to shoot her and her family, but what do I know, I didn't even consider request an introduction.
chet
Footballguy
It's a perfectly acceptable way to approach this situation. Don't give me problems--give me solutions.
Willie Neslon
Footballguy
gianmarco
Footballguy
chet
Footballguy
You're trying to defend yourself after you suggested Otis threaten legal action against a little old lady he's never talked to who also happens to be his neighbor? Terrible judgement call.
Well, she wasn't home when I stopped by on Saturday morning and she didn't respond to my note so I guess my best option is to threaten to sue her. Read that slowly and tell me it doesn't make you cringe when you think to yourself that you actually suggested that course of action.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
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When you finally do get to speak with the neighbor lady, consider throwing in some money for a replacement tree if she'll take that one down.
Your greatest chance of getting what you want is to come to a friendly agreement with this neighbor.
Even if you are successful with convincing the utility company to remove the tree, she may be able to thwart that plan by having them only remove the offending branches.
Your greatest chance of getting what you want is to come to a friendly agreement with this neighbor.
Even if you are successful with convincing the utility company to remove the tree, she may be able to thwart that plan by having them only remove the offending branches.
James Daulton
Footballguy
They left one note. What's the issue with having the wife go over, a few times if necessary, introduce herself and the kids, and actually talk to the witch? At least that way Oats would know where the old bag stood on the tree issue.
And keep Oats and his giant mitts out of it as much as possible.
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
James Daulton
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Zow
Footballguy
It doesn't make me cringe. But from what I read Otis has left notes, his wife has gone over there several times, he's had professionals tell him the tree is dangerous, and his neighbors have indicated that they've made prior complaints and she doesn't respond. Additionally, a "threatening" letter doesn't need to be written overly harshly or jerkishly. Generally, the goal here is to kindly say "here's what nice and reasonable thing I'm willing to do, but here's how serious and bad it could get, but look at how nice and reasonable I am because I want to go this nice route." He can kindly and softly get his point across yet still instill some call to action with the lawyer thing. I think it's clear this tree poses some sort of moderate to imminent thread to his family's safety so something needs to be done. At least sending her a letter gives some sort of warning before he starts lopping branches off. Sure, he could try having his wife stop by again but at some point an introduction isn't happening.
Oh, and it's "judgment."
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Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
As I understand such matters one has their card or letter of introduction ready when approaching the door. When the servant answers the door you announce your name clearly, announce your desire for a meeting at the convenience of the person unexpectedly called upon, and then extend your card or letter. The servant will extend a silver salver on which you place the card, and with a tip of your hat, you leave briskly with no further conversation.
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
What if she refuses to answer the door? Didn't he say in the OP that he attempted to contact her twice face-to-face?
