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The Trent Richardson Thread (5 Viewers)

SaintsInDome2006 said:
zftcg said:
This is hilarious: https://twitter.com/billbarnwell/status/534792493070843904
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The full thing.

https://gfycat.com/QuestionableHonestHalibut

You can see an alley to the right too. It looks to me that was actually the way the play was supposed to go. Marc Ingram finally figured it out.
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I think you're right. In fact, my guess is both TR and the center screwed up there. Richardson got past Easley and decided to try to bounce it outside instead of following the hole to the right, but took his sweet time getting there. Meanwhile, the C got turned around (partly because he didn't expect Richardson to be there) and got in his way.

 
SameSongNDance said:
No sign of #colts Trent Richardson, Dwayne Allen, Gosder Cherilus at practice today. @rtv6

Haven't heard why yet.
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Trent Richardson (unknown) was not present in the early part of Wednesday's practice.

No one really knows why he was missing from practice this afternoon but this is a huge week for the former third overall pick. Ahmad Bradshaw is done for the season which means he'll step into the lead back role for the Colts. If he can't go this weekend, Dan Herron would get a chance to shine as the team's number one back.
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http://www.fantasyalarm.com/playerupdate/304358/Trent%20Richardson-RB

 
He may not break 50 yards on the ground, but I bet he sees good receiving numbers this week. He is a good receiver, and Bradshaw (also a good receiver) was getting the bulk of the revieving work out of the backfield. At least it seemed that way - Im not looking at numbers. Bet he gets close to 100 total yards. If he can sprinkle in a TD or 2, he could have a big game this week. Jags D doesnt suck, but the O puts them in bad positions on a regular basis. Should be a few opportunities for Richardson to score.

I think he is a pretty solid play this week, despite the fact that he is not a very good RB right now.

 
Faust said:
Trent Richardson has nine games with 20 or fewer rushing yards
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“We’re trying to be a balanced offense,” Richardson said. “We have to run the ball. People want to talk about being a championship team around here. That’s the right way to build a championship team, being able to balance the offense. Look at the great teams -- Patriots, Seattle. A big part of the game is running the ball.”
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Actually this is true. Why is he so bad at this? Herron has the exact same average 3.4ypc btw.

 
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amnesiac said:
curious if he might be a good fit on a team with a zone blocking scheme next year?
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I think his primary negatives are that he's not very decisive, he isn't quick to the hole, and he has terrible vision to find the hole, so I'd doubt even kubiak could polish that..........player.

 
Kool-Aid Larry said:
amnesiac said:
curious if he might be a good fit on a team with a zone blocking scheme next year?
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I think his primary negatives are that he's not very decisive, he isn't quick to the hole, and he has terrible vision to find the hole, so I'd doubt even kubiak could polish that..........player.
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if you recall, i got rid of this ... player last year. so i am just trying to figure out if another team takes a chance on him next year, what type of system might be able to polish him up to a useful player.

i was under the impression the ZBS helped the RB get up to speed before they made contact with the LBers. seems like it could help him?

 
The Indianapolis Star expects Trent Richardson to handle third-down duties with Ahmad Bradshaw (broken leg) done for the season.

Bradshaw played 84 percent of the third-down snaps the first 11 weeks. That work now falls into Richardson's lap, which means more touches and opportunities for big plays. It's up to Richardson to make the most of it. Expect Richardson to flirt with 20 touches per game the final six weeks, giving him a high floor as an RB2 in one of the most explosive offenses in the league.


Source: Indianapolis Star
Nov 21 - 10:17 AM
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Its funny because I circled this game on the schedule as possible the only time I would contemplate starting TRich, and its even better now with Bradshaw out of the picture. However, I still can't make my self put him in even in this best of all circumstances. Luckily, I played Blue over him last week and I have improving situations across the board now.

Murray (off bye)

Blue (Foster looking like he's out)

McKinnon (Asiata might be out)

Gio (coming back from inj)

Sims (getting more carries) I would play TRich over this unproven guy, but the rest I don't think so.

He might go off vs Jax, but the risk of a 20/50 with 2 catches is somehow staring at me. Inter Div games have a way of turning out unexpected too. Just look at that Oak game last night. It's Trich's best situation all year and his best matchup and I still can't bring myself to start him. Pretty pathetic ... I wonder if those Bradshaw recs will go to TRich. How many did they have together in each game so far this year splitting carries?

TRich: 22 for 203 0 TDs

BradS: 38 for 300 6 TDs

60/503/6 would be amazing production from a single back, per game that would avg about 6/50/.6 a game just from recs. Add in a worst case scenario of 50 yards on the ground with no TDs and you get a floor of about 18. If he gets a rushing TD that would be 24. Trich has done well catching passes this year, just didn't have as many opps as Bradshaw. Maybe I should rethink this.

 
Ok I'm going to say something which is likely extremely dumb here: if Richardson gets at least 4 catches I think he can have a decent to good game as a RB2, maybe 30-50 rush and 50-60 rec and maybe a TD.

 
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He hasn't looked good at all this year from what I've seen (not news obviously) but it does look like his receptions help him avoid some of the hesitancy he has when he takes a handoff? He can usually just go ahead and run and not start and stop multiple times like he seems to do in the backfield. I'd think 3-5 receptions a game may actually give him a floor that won't kill your team if he puts up a game like last week running the ball.

 
Pleasing potential this week, he has looked ok in some games this year. but I wouldn't get too crazy, he is trent and hasn't impressed yet this year. PPR he is a much better option imo

 
cstu said:
Ilov80s said:
ATSS_0100 said:
Pleasing potential this week, he has looked ok in some games this year. but I wouldn't get too crazy, he is trent and hasn't impressed yet this year. PPR he is a much better option imo
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Opportunity can be everything.
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25/75/1, 3/25

I imagine owners would be happy with a 19 point game in PPR.
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Especially considering we are likely looking at your RB2. I would nut if McCoy dropped that stat line.
 
Ilov80s said:
cstu said:
Ilov80s said:
ATSS_0100 said:
Pleasing potential this week, he has looked ok in some games this year. but I wouldn't get too crazy, he is trent and hasn't impressed yet this year. PPR he is a much better option imo
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Opportunity can be everything.
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25/75/1, 3/25

I imagine owners would be happy with a 19 point game in PPR.
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Especially considering we are likely looking at your RB2. I would nut if McCoy dropped that stat line.
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Don't get me wrong, he has been riding my bench all year. The stat line posted would be nice, being a plus matchup for him and all. I also have mccoy, it's really do or forget about it right now for me.... Starting rich over McKinnon with Charles already going thurs..

 
PatsWillWin said:
amnesiac said:
curious if he might be a good fit on a team with a zone blocking scheme next year?
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that would be a great way to highlight his biggest weakness - vision and decision-making.
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At this stage no system will work for T-Rich. He is destined for a back up RB role for the foreseeable future. I just don't see how he will ever now amount to anything more.

 
Trent is going to win a lot of people some titles. He does suck, I cant deny that. But his opportunity is what you want.

1) He is going to get the passing down work..

2) High powered passing offense that passes to RBs a lot.

3) Trent is a good receiver.

4) ALL GL work.

5) Herron isnt anything special and is raw.

6) Plays Jax, Was, Cle, Hou and Dal next 5 weeks.

Yes he is not an elite talent, but people way worse then him have produced because of volume in a good offense.

 
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Jerry Curl said:
Trent is going to win a lot of people some titles. He does suck, I cant deny that. But his opportunity is what you want.

1) He is going to get the passing down work..

2) High powered passing offense that passes to RBs a lot.

3) Trent is a good receiver.

4) ALL GL work.

5) Herron isnt anything special and is raw.

6) Plays Jax, Was, Cle, Hou and Dal next 5 weeks.

Yes he is not an elite talent, but people way worse then him have produced because of volume in a good offense.
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I've not been in this thread in months and did not bother to read up so pardon me if I repeat stuff someone else wrote.

He's set up well for the rest of the season, so much so it should impact his NFL future if he fails again. This week I'm starting him everywhere I have him, over guys like Tre Mason and Alfred Morris simply because of the way I think he will be used and the matchup, but from a talent angle I wish he looked as good as Mason.

I still contend the back I saw his rookie season, despite his low YPC, was a talented back. Maybe not quite elite but talented and good at the two things that score fantasy points-catch and score. I've not seen much encouraging since however.

I don't know what's wrong with him. He looks like he could stand to lose some weight. I mean it's great that he's big and strong but he's still smaller than every DL and most LB's and those few times he shakes those guys off it slows him down and takes time which allows for me to people to pile on, so can't help but think dropping a few pounds would help him add some quickness and maybe get "skinny" sometimes when he sees a crease. In the open field he's exhibited a decent jump cut move but more often than not he can't shake an isolated defender and seems to lose his balance and leg drive those few times he reaches the second level. And for a guy his size I can't recall seeing a RB get rag dolled as much as I see with him.

Other than thought he just does not look like he runs with any enough energy, seems kind of lackadaisical at times, especially when things don't go well. Just does not seem really fired up.

I've invested previously in guys like Lynch and Ingram when both where at the bottom of their career values at fairly cheap costs. Afraid most of my investment in Richardson was at a super high cost but I've held RB's before the fantasy/NFL community deemed garbage and it's worked and I still think we have a chance with Richardson but it's not based on anything I've seen from him since his rookie year.

Rest of the season will be huge for him. Will be tough for the GM to admit his mistake but if he sucks I think the Colts will cut him and just redo the backfield next season, that seems more attractive then paying $3.2 million to him and being constantly reminded of the disappointment. That may end up being the best thing for him but I'm hoping he get it's going these last few weeks and earns his roster spot for 2015.

 
Jerry Curl said:
Trent is going to win a lot of people some titles. He does suck, I cant deny that. But his opportunity is what you want.

1) He is going to get the passing down work..

2) High powered passing offense that passes to RBs a lot.

3) Trent is a good receiver.

4) ALL GL work.

5) Herron isnt anything special and is raw.

6) Plays Jax, Was, Cle, Hou and Dal next 5 weeks.

Yes he is not an elite talent, but people way worse then him have produced because of volume in a good offense.
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LOL!!!!

This guy is a massive turd. Luck will be throwing the ball 50 plus times a game because unless Dan Boom Herron can fill in for Bradshaw....they have absolutely no running game.

Now....the only thing Richardson has going for him is receptions. That's it. This guy is almost a guaranteed 2&7, 2&8, 2&9 RB....he is pure unadulterated GARBAGE.

I defended him last year....since he was traded, new play book, blah blah blah. He sucks. He lost it. Whatever potential this guy had after is rookie season where he ran hard and gutted out isomer injury problems....is long gone.

What are you watching? He has been nothing shot of god awful. It does not matter. And if he blows up with stud numbers....I will be shocked...just shocked.

Name those way worse RB's...because as far as starters in the league...he is by far the worst I have seen on all 32 teams. Not even close.

 
menobrown said:
Jerry Curl said:
Trent is going to win a lot of people some titles. He does suck, I cant deny that. But his opportunity is what you want.

1) He is going to get the passing down work..

2) High powered passing offense that passes to RBs a lot.

3) Trent is a good receiver.

4) ALL GL work.

5) Herron isnt anything special and is raw.

6) Plays Jax, Was, Cle, Hou and Dal next 5 weeks.

Yes he is not an elite talent, but people way worse then him have produced because of volume in a good offense.
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I've not been in this thread in months and did not bother to read up so pardon me if I repeat stuff someone else wrote.

He's set up well for the rest of the season, so much so it should impact his NFL future if he fails again. This week I'm starting him everywhere I have him, over guys like Tre Mason and Alfred Morris simply because of the way I think he will be used and the matchup, but from a talent angle I wish he looked as good as Mason.

I still contend the back I saw his rookie season, despite his low YPC, was a talented back. Maybe not quite elite but talented and good at the two things that score fantasy points-catch and score. I've not seen much encouraging since however.

I don't know what's wrong with him. He looks like he could stand to lose some weight. I mean it's great that he's big and strong but he's still smaller than every DL and most LB's and those few times he shakes those guys off it slows him down and takes time which allows for me to people to pile on, so can't help but think dropping a few pounds would help him add some quickness and maybe get "skinny" sometimes when he sees a crease. In the open field he's exhibited a decent jump cut move but more often than not he can't shake an isolated defender and seems to lose his balance and leg drive those few times he reaches the second level. And for a guy his size I can't recall seeing a RB get rag dolled as much as I see with him.

Other than thought he just does not look like he runs with any enough energy, seems kind of lackadaisical at times, especially when things don't go well. Just does not seem really fired up.

I've invested previously in guys like Lynch and Ingram when both where at the bottom of their career values at fairly cheap costs. Afraid most of my investment in Richardson was at a super high cost but I've held RB's before the fantasy/NFL community deemed garbage and it's worked and I still think we have a chance with Richardson but it's not based on anything I've seen from him since his rookie year.

Rest of the season will be huge for him. Will be tough for the GM to admit his mistake but if he sucks I think the Colts will cut him and just redo the backfield next season, that seems more attractive then paying $3.2 million to him and being constantly reminded of the disappointment. That may end up being the best thing for him but I'm hoping he get it's going these last few weeks and earns his roster spot for 2015.
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Great post. I used to think the same way about him. But after last year and then the first 2 weeks this year...I packaged him off in a deal to bring me Lacy (another Alabama back) and that has worked out like butter. I was so happy I did not have to see his name on my roster again.

I stayed patient with guys like Ingram as well...and that has worked out well....but T.Rich is a pure bust to me now. He has shown nothing to change my mind.

 
Allen's injury shouldn't be overlooked for fantasy leaguers considering starting Richardson with Bradshaw (broken leg) done for the year. A critical component of Indy's ground game, Allen is PFF's No. 6 overall run-blocking tight end. T-Rich should see volume against Jacksonville's No. 26 run defense and is a reasonable bet for a goal-line score, but won't suddenly become dynamic, and Indy's run-blocking unit collapsed with Allen on the shelf for all of last year
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Jerry Curl said:
Trent is going to win a lot of people some titles. He does suck, I cant deny that. But his opportunity is what you want.

1) He is going to get the passing down work..

2) High powered passing offense that passes to RBs a lot.

3) Trent is a good receiver.

4) ALL GL work.

5) Herron isnt anything special and is raw.

6) Plays Jax, Was, Cle, Hou and Dal next 5 weeks.

Yes he is not an elite talent, but people way worse then him have produced because of volume in a good offense.
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how was this any different than last year when his only competition was dammit donald
 
shadyridr said:
Jerry Curl said:
Trent is going to win a lot of people some titles. He does suck, I cant deny that. But his opportunity is what you want.

1) He is going to get the passing down work..

2) High powered passing offense that passes to RBs a lot.

3) Trent is a good receiver.

4) ALL GL work.

5) Herron isnt anything special and is raw.

6) Plays Jax, Was, Cle, Hou and Dal next 5 weeks.

Yes he is not an elite talent, but people way worse then him have produced because of volume in a good offense.
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how was this any different than last year when his only competition was dammit donald
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He only had 1500 hours to learn the playbook at that point in time.

 
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