The Trent Richardson Thread (1 Viewer)

[Dr. Octopus]

No way in hell a team with Ryan Fitzpatrick at the helm is going to be 10-6 or better on the season.

Two years ago they went 12-4 with Schaub.

Before last season, Shaub was actually a pretty decent QB.

 

[RhymesMcJuice]

No way in hell a team with Ryan Fitzpatrick at the helm is going to be 10-6 or better on the season.

Two years ago they went 12-4 with Schaub.

Before last season, Shaub was actually a pretty decent QB.

True, but the way I look at it is the defense is even better than it was in 2012 and all Fitzpatrick needs to be is a game manager who doesn't make mistakes.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

So is everyone getting Dion Lewis? He was inactive last night, but what are the odds he's active and getting carries in the next month?

If Bradshaw is healthy id say no chance

 

[FF Ninja]

Anything can happen, and they do have a solid defense and strong running game, but I'm just not a Fitzpatrick fan (well actually I do like the guy, I just don't think he's very good after watching him for years in the AFC East). If Houston can split their two games with Indy, I suppose they stand a chance of winning the division.

He gets a lot of hate, so people think of him as a bad or below average QB, but I've seen some statistics that place him right around "perfectly average" for an NFL QB. And if he is indeed a good fit for the system (which he appears to be), then a team with Fitzpatrick, a strong running game, and a strong defense should indeed be able to challenge for the division. Especially with an early 2 game head start.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/06/28/obrien-and-fitzpatrick-a-match-made-in-irish-heaven/

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/06/22/houston-texans-offense-fear-the-beard/

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

So is everyone getting Dion Lewis? He was inactive last night, but what are the odds he's active and getting carries in the next month?

for indy?

Colts waived RB Dion Lewis.

 

[Josh the FunkDOC]

yea, ryan fitzpatrick is a really good example of the phenomenon where every QB has to be either amazing or god-awful. so many people just don't think to place QBs anywhere in the middle, which is where a guy like fitzpatrick likely belongs. shaun hill, kirk cousins, & maybe even jason campbell could all fit into this as well.

 

[Air Stich]

Richardson is a very interesting player to buy right now. He looked like he might be able to produce if/when Bradshaw goes down. I'm thinking of offering Carlos Hyde for him, and I bet it gets accepted.

 

[ghostguy123]

Richardson is a very interesting player to buy right now. He looked like he might be able to produce if/when Bradshaw goes down. I'm thinking of offering Carlos Hyde for him, and I bet it gets accepted.

ouch, I would take Hyde over a few Richardsons

 

[Air Stich]

Richardson is a very interesting player to buy right now. He looked like he might be able to produce if/when Bradshaw goes down. I'm thinking of offering Carlos Hyde for him, and I bet it gets accepted.

ouch, I would take Hyde over a few Richardsons

Or maybe I'll wait a week and try to get T Rich cheaper. No way does Bradshaw become a volume workhorse for this high scoring team.

 

[amnesiac]

Richardson is a very interesting player to buy right now. He looked like he might be able to produce if/when Bradshaw goes down. I'm thinking of offering Carlos Hyde for him, and I bet it gets accepted.

if this is a dynasty, i would suggest you just quit right now.

 

[need2know]

Richardson is a very interesting player to buy right now. He looked like he might be able to produce if/when Bradshaw goes down. I'm thinking of offering Carlos Hyde for him, and I bet it gets accepted.

ouch, I would take Hyde over a few Richardsons

Or maybe I'll wait a week and try to get T Rich cheaper. No way does Bradshaw become a volume workhorse for this high scoring team.

bradshaw has looked really good. hes got a long injury history but it is possible he takes this job and stays a strong rb2 from here on out. i wouldnt write him off yet...

 

[Shrugs]

Richardson is a very interesting player to buy right now. He looked like he might be able to produce if/when Bradshaw goes down. I'm thinking of offering Carlos Hyde for him, and I bet it gets accepted.

ouch, I would take Hyde over a few Richardsons

Or maybe I'll wait a week and try to get T Rich cheaper. No way does Bradshaw become a volume workhorse for this high scoring team.

If you want TRich, I'd try now rather than wait until after he faces the Jax D. This could be his best game of the season.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Anything can happen, and they do have a solid defense and strong running game, but I'm just not a Fitzpatrick fan (well actually I do like the guy, I just don't think he's very good after watching him for years in the AFC East). If Houston can split their two games with Indy, I suppose they stand a chance of winning the division.

He gets a lot of hate, so people think of him as a bad or below average QB, but I've seen some statistics that place him right around "perfectly average" for an NFL QB. And if he is indeed a good fit for the system (which he appears to be), then a team with Fitzpatrick, a strong running game, and a strong defense should indeed be able to challenge for the division. Especially with an early 2 game head start.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/06/28/obrien-and-fitzpatrick-a-match-made-in-irish-heaven/

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/06/22/houston-texans-offense-fear-the-beard/

I'd say he's average to below average. He's got a weak arm and for a Harvard guy he makes some really dumb decisions. On the plus side he's fiery, tough and is a better scrambler/runner than one would think. I enjoyed watching him play and it's hard not to root for the guy, but he's really not a playoff caliber QB.Houston has a two game head start but they've played Washington and Oakland. The Colts played at Denver and Philly. like I said a strong running game and a top defense can go a long ways though.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

Richardson is a very interesting player to buy right now. He looked like he might be able to produce if/when Bradshaw goes down. I'm thinking of offering Carlos Hyde for him, and I bet it gets accepted.

ouch, I would take Hyde over a few Richardsons

Or maybe I'll wait a week and try to get T Rich cheaper. No way does Bradshaw become a volume workhorse for this high scoring team.

If you want TRich, I'd try now rather than wait until after he faces the Jax D. This could be his best game of the season.

he did get 2 of his 3 td against them last year

 

[Zdravko]

He will get to the 1000 rushing yards many projected.

The lower-than-expected receptions and the OL debacles at the GL is what will keep him from RB2 stats.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

He will get to the 1000 rushing yards many projected.

Really? You really think that he's going to get the 300+ carries he needs to hit 1000 yards despite Bradshaw obviously being the superior RB? He got a lot of work Monday night, sure, but the Colts aren't good enough to be playing with a lead like that week in and week out. Getting close to 40 team rushing attempts isn't going to be the norm for them this year.

 

[Jrodicus]

Richardson is a very interesting player to buy right now. He looked like he might be able to produce if/when Bradshaw goes down. I'm thinking of offering Carlos Hyde for him, and I bet it gets accepted.

if this is a dynasty, i would suggest you just quit right now.

Yeah, I'd easily take Hyde on value alone.

If you don't have faith in Hyde, I'm sure you could more for him than just Richardson (if this is dynasty).

If it's redraft, Richardson has a better chance of becoming a lead back (based on Bradshaw's injury history), but Hyde has much higher upside.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Richardson is a very interesting player to buy right now. He looked like he might be able to produce if/when Bradshaw goes down. I'm thinking of offering Carlos Hyde for him, and I bet it gets accepted.

Oh lord no.

 

[joffer]

I was the only one to bid on Bradshaw this week.

 

[Raider Nation]

Trying to sell the crap out of this guy.

I don't think he has any left.

 

[Bracie Smathers]

One year ago today...

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Joe Banner @JoeBanner13 · 6h

a year ago today spent much of the night on the phone, trying to finalize the Richardson deal. One of the hardest trades to finalize I did

 

[TheLurkerBelow]

So is everyone getting Dion Lewis? He was inactive last night, but what are the odds he's active and getting carries in the next month?

From Rotoworld:

Colts waived RB Dion Lewis.
DT Kelcy Quarles has been plucked off the Patriots' practice squad in a corresponding roster move. Lewis looked like he might get some playing time when the Colts signed him on September 9, but they're apparently satisfied with Boom Herron behind Trent Richardson and Ahmad Bradshaw. Under-sized at 5-foot-8, 195 pounds, Lewis owns a career 4.8 YPC through 36 carries. Sep 16 - 3:13 PM

 

[DAMAC3]

OK. So not the guy to own. Heh. I hope Richardson has another "decent" game so I can get some kind of trade value for him.

So is everyone getting Dion Lewis? He was inactive last night, but what are the odds he's active and getting carries in the next month?

From Rotoworld:

Colts waived RB Dion Lewis.

DT Kelcy Quarles has been plucked off the Patriots' practice squad in a corresponding roster move. Lewis looked like he might get some playing time when the Colts signed him on September 9, but they're apparently satisfied with Boom Herron behind Trent Richardson and Ahmad Bradshaw. Under-sized at 5-foot-8, 195 pounds, Lewis owns a career 4.8 YPC through 36 carries. Sep 16 - 3:13 PM

 

[JohnnyU]

Richardson is a very interesting player to buy right now. He looked like he might be able to produce if/when Bradshaw goes down. I'm thinking of offering Carlos Hyde for him, and I bet it gets accepted.

Oh lord no.

I hope that is a "Oh lord no" for not offering up Hyde. It can't be an "Oh lord no" it won't get accepted, because I'm pretty sure anyone in their right mind would trade Richardson for Hyde in a dynasty league and to a lesser extent redraft.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

LETS START THIS GUY THIS WEEK!!!!!

he has to do something vs JAX right????

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Richardson is a very interesting player to buy right now. He looked like he might be able to produce if/when Bradshaw goes down. I'm thinking of offering Carlos Hyde for him, and I bet it gets accepted.

Oh lord no.

I hope that is a "Oh lord no" for not offering up Hyde. It can't be an "Oh lord no" it won't get accepted, because I'm pretty sure anyone in their right mind would trade Richardson for Hyde in a dynasty league and to a lesser extent redraft.

Ask EBF...

 

[Air Stich]

Richardson is a very interesting player to buy right now. He looked like he might be able to produce if/when Bradshaw goes down. I'm thinking of offering Carlos Hyde for him, and I bet it gets accepted.

Oh lord no.

I hope that is a "Oh lord no" for not offering up Hyde. It can't be an "Oh lord no" it won't get accepted, because I'm pretty sure anyone in their right mind would trade Richardson for Hyde in a dynasty league and to a lesser extent redraft.

Its obviously redraft.

 

[JohnnyU]

Richardson is a very interesting player to buy right now. He looked like he might be able to produce if/when Bradshaw goes down. I'm thinking of offering Carlos Hyde for him, and I bet it gets accepted.

Oh lord no.

I hope that is a "Oh lord no" for not offering up Hyde. It can't be an "Oh lord no" it won't get accepted, because I'm pretty sure anyone in their right mind would trade Richardson for Hyde in a dynasty league and to a lesser extent redraft.

Its obviously redraft.

I believe I would still want Hyde and sit him until his role increases as the season progresses.

 

[Air Stich]

Richardson is a very interesting player to buy right now. He looked like he might be able to produce if/when Bradshaw goes down. I'm thinking of offering Carlos Hyde for him, and I bet it gets accepted.

Oh lord no.

I hope that is a "Oh lord no" for not offering up Hyde. It can't be an "Oh lord no" it won't get accepted, because I'm pretty sure anyone in their right mind would trade Richardson for Hyde in a dynasty league and to a lesser extent redraft.

Its obviously redraft.

I believe I would still want Hyde and sit him until his role increases as the season progresses.

Fair enough. I was just pointing out that I think Richardson is a decent buy low option. I have Hyde in multiple leagues and he's the only guy I could realistically trade to get Richardson. I'm not TRYING to deal Hyde, but I would like to get a share of T Rich at these prices. This board makes it seem like he's completely worthless. I wonder if his owner feels the same?

 

[Insein]

LETS START THIS GUY THIS WEEK!!!!!

he has to do something vs JAX right????

I might have to with JC hurt.

 

[shoecrew22]

Picked up bradshaw this week with the last ww priority, apparently im the only one in my league who needed a RB...lol

I like Bradshaw vs JAX a lot....

 

[jdoggydogg]

Richardson is a very interesting player to buy right now. He looked like he might be able to produce if/when Bradshaw goes down. I'm thinking of offering Carlos Hyde for him, and I bet it gets accepted.

Oh lord no.

I hope that is a "Oh lord no" for not offering up Hyde. It can't be an "Oh lord no" it won't get accepted, because I'm pretty sure anyone in their right mind would trade Richardson for Hyde in a dynasty league and to a lesser extent redraft.

Sorry I wasn't clear: Hyde is the one to own by a mile. I wouldn't trade Hyde for Peterson. That's insanity.

 

[adam220891]

Scooped kniles davis on waivers this week but looks like JC is in...guess I'm trotting out TR...damn

 

[Jrodicus]

The past couple years, the Colts have settled for a lot of field goals instead of getting TDs. It looks like they are trying to get more creative in the red zone (which I'm happy about).

Against the Eagles when the Colts went for it on 4th and goal, they sent in Richardson, but once he was about half way out, they called him back and sent out other personnel. They set up in a run formation, but passed to Bradshaw for the score.

Right before half time, they got to about the 4 yard line and sent Richardson in. Bradshaw was talking in his ear like he was trying to get him fired up. He went for 2 yards. Next play, out of run formation, Jack Doyle got the TD catch.

In the past they have been pretty conservative near the red zone, but it looks like they're opening things up a bit. Luck could end up top 3 with passing TDs but outside of the top 7-8 in yardage. That would bode well for whichever RB is catching passes near the goal line - currently Bradshaw.

 

[LOCO]

get him in your lineups. he is scoring a TD this weekend.

 

[John 14:6]

Picked up bradshaw this week with the last ww priority, apparently im the only one in my league who needed a RB...lol

I like Bradshaw vs JAX a lot....

I've got him going in both my ppr leagues now. One ahead of lacy, the other Asiata...

 

[need2know]

get him in your lineups. he is scoring a TD this weekend.

Yeah bradshaw may score multiple times

 

[Reegus]

get him in your lineups. he is scoring a TD this weekend.

Yeah bradshaw may score multiple times

True but his paper mache feet may fall apart after a few runs.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

get him in your lineups. he is scoring a TD this weekend.

Yeah bradshaw may score multiple times

True but his paper mache feet may fall apart after a few runs.

How many games has Bradshaw missed due to his foot issues?

 

[Clifford]

Granted I have been in his corner since college, but did no one else see him correct the most prevalent mistakes Monday night? Didn't dance behind the line. Saw holes develop and hit them. Gained yards after contact. Consistently got positive yards between the tackles. Of course the fumbles were bad but prior to this game, fumbles weren't the main thing I was looking for him to correct. In terms of a game, average because of the fumbles, otherwise above average. But in terms of correcting the tendencies that I have seen as holding him back, it was a fantastic game for him.

 

[Clifford]

I'm actually wondering if playing both of them isn't the move here. They could easily see 20 touches a piece.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Granted I have been in his corner since college, but did no one else see him correct the most prevalent mistakes Monday night? Didn't dance behind the line. Saw holes develop and hit them. Gained yards after contact. Consistently got positive yards between the tackles. Of course the fumbles were bad but prior to this game, fumbles weren't the main thing I was looking for him to correct. In terms of a game, average because of the fumbles, otherwise above average. But in terms of correcting the tendencies that I have seen as holding him back, it was a fantastic game for him.

21 - 79 against a terrible run defense isn't "above average" at all. He looked like he always has to me -- runs really hard and can be fine when a big hole opens up right where it's supposed to. The key factor is how he looks relative to Ahmad Bradshaw behind the same line -- and that's not a flattering comparison for Richardson at all.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

I'm actually wondering if playing both of them isn't the move here. They could easily see 20 touches a piece.

With Bradshaw getting both the short yardage and passing down work, Richardson shouldn't be anywhere near your lineup no matter who he's playing. 20 - 70 isn't exactly exciting.

 

[RBM]

Granted I have been in his corner since college, but did no one else see him correct the most prevalent mistakes Monday night? Didn't dance behind the line. Saw holes develop and hit them. Gained yards after contact. Consistently got positive yards between the tackles. Of course the fumbles were bad but prior to this game, fumbles weren't the main thing I was looking for him to correct. In terms of a game, average because of the fumbles, otherwise above average. But in terms of correcting the tendencies that I have seen as holding him back, it was a fantastic game for him.

21 - 79 against a terrible run defense isn't "above average" at all. He looked like he always has to me -- runs really hard and can be fine when a big hole opens up right where it's supposed to. The key factor is how he looks relative to Ahmad Bradshaw behind the same line -- and that's not a flattering comparison for Richardson at all.

This is just dishonest and I can't take you serious. I understand it's fun to bag on the guy but to say he looked like he has previously is horse ####.Now I'm not running to put him in my lineup or anything, but if he runs like he did Monday night I will start considering him again.

 

[Otis]

Richardson blowing up this weekend. You heard it here first. This thread will be a circus come Monday.

 

[rockaction]

Richardson blowing up this weekend. You heard it here first. This thread will be a circus come Monday.

If they line up eight blockers and a TE in the backfield, then yes, anybody will look good.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

Granted I have been in his corner since college, but did no one else see him correct the most prevalent mistakes Monday night? Didn't dance behind the line. Saw holes develop and hit them. Gained yards after contact. Consistently got positive yards between the tackles. Of course the fumbles were bad but prior to this game, fumbles weren't the main thing I was looking for him to correct. In terms of a game, average because of the fumbles, otherwise above average. But in terms of correcting the tendencies that I have seen as holding him back, it was a fantastic game for him.

21 - 79 against a terrible run defense isn't "above average" at all. He looked like he always has to me -- runs really hard and can be fine when a big hole opens up right where it's supposed to. The key factor is how he looks relative to Ahmad Bradshaw behind the same line -- and that's not a flattering comparison for Richardson at all.

This is just dishonest and I can't take you serious. I understand it's fun to bag on the guy but to say he looked like he has previously is horse ####.Now I'm not running to put him in my lineup or anything, but if he runs like he did Monday night I will start considering him again.

/thread

 

[Insein]

Granted I have been in his corner since college, but did no one else see him correct the most prevalent mistakes Monday night? Didn't dance behind the line. Saw holes develop and hit them. Gained yards after contact. Consistently got positive yards between the tackles. Of course the fumbles were bad but prior to this game, fumbles weren't the main thing I was looking for him to correct. In terms of a game, average because of the fumbles, otherwise above average. But in terms of correcting the tendencies that I have seen as holding him back, it was a fantastic game for him.

21 - 79 against a terrible run defense isn't "above average" at all. He looked like he always has to me -- runs really hard and can be fine when a big hole opens up right where it's supposed to. The key factor is how he looks relative to Ahmad Bradshaw behind the same line -- and that's not a flattering comparison for Richardson at all.

Eagles ranked 10th overall run defense last year. They were close to top 10 before this week but two weeks is hardly evidence to say they're horrible.

 

[cstu]

Richardson blowing up this weekend. You heard it here first. This thread will be a circus come Monday.

And there you have it folks, the official Otis Kiss of Death.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

I'll just assume that was a bomb threat and pass this thread along to homeland security