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Trent Richardson's career trajectory continues its downward spiral.

The Colts declared Richardson inactive for Sunday afternoon's Divisional Round game against the Denver Broncos. This could be the final game of Richardson's time with the Colts, less than two years after they gave up a first-round pick for him. Guys like Zurlon Tipton and Michael Hill are active over Richardson. If he can't be active in the biggest game of the season over players signed "off the street," it's hard to imagine the Colts continuing to salvage his career.

Buy low time. Indy never was a good fit. He is going to put it all together like Ingram did. Just watch. Someone will sign him once he is released. He is too young and talented not to play in the league. You heard it here first. I'm back on the TRich bandwagon. Don't own him anywhere but will be looking to get him where I can.
I'll be buying too!

(Where I can get him for a late third or fourth) ;)

 
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:-|

What an epic disappointment this guy has been.

I wonder what his dynasty ADP will be next season (and don't say undrafted). Just genuinely curious what the market price will be. Would a third round rookie pick be overpaying at this point?
lol.i traded him in the middle of last season for what ended up being 2.1 and 3.1 and got laughed at.

and yes, i'd say a third is overpaying.
It is funny you say that. I own Herron and after this last playoff game I tried to buy Richardson for 3.02 in this years draft. I was rejected and counter with Herron and 1.10 for Richardson.
Hahaha, isn't Herron>Trich in dynasty at this point?
What's that river in Egypt?
Inactive today, you got an update on that river?

 
From NFL.com

Trent Richardson's career trajectory continues its downward spiral.

The Colts declared Richardson inactive for Sunday afternoon's Divisional Round game against the Denver Broncos. This could be the final game of Richardson's time with the Colts, less than two years after they gave up a first-round pick for him. Guys like Zurlon Tipton and Michael Hill are active over Richardson. If he can't be active in the biggest game of the season over players signed "off the street," it's hard to imagine the Colts continuing to salvage his career.

Buy low time. Indy never was a good fit. He is going to put it all together like Ingram did. Just watch. Someone will sign him once he is released. He is too young and talented not to play in the league. You heard it here first. I'm back on the TRich bandwagon. Don't own him anywhere but will be looking to get him where I can.
Horrible fit for any rb....well, except for Donald Brown, Ahmad Bradshaw, Dan Herron, and Zurlon Tipton. Those guys are elite talents and "team proof" though.

 
Those of you hoping to buy for a third rd rookie pick in dynasty, you do realize you woud miss out on the likes of Isiah Crowell, Paul Richardson, Teddy Bridgewater, Andre Williams, Blake Bortles, Derek Carr, Alfred Blue, Austin Seferrin-Jenkins, Charles Sims, and Jarvis Landry just to name a few.

 
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From NFL.com

Trent Richardson's career trajectory continues its downward spiral.

The Colts declared Richardson inactive for Sunday afternoon's Divisional Round game against the Denver Broncos. This could be the final game of Richardson's time with the Colts, less than two years after they gave up a first-round pick for him. Guys like Zurlon Tipton and Michael Hill are active over Richardson. If he can't be active in the biggest game of the season over players signed "off the street," it's hard to imagine the Colts continuing to salvage his career.





Buy low time. Indy never was a good fit. He is going to put it all together like Ingram did. Just watch. Someone will sign him once he is released. He is too young and talented not to play in the league. You heard it here first. I'm back on the TRich bandwagon. Don't own him anywhere but will be looking to get him where I can.
Horrible fit for any rb....well, except for Donald Brown, Ahmad Bradshaw, Dan Herron, and Zurlon Tipton. Those guys are elite talents and "team proof" though.
Those tiny guys are perfect for Indy's offense. Trent needs to play somewhere where Oompa Loompas dont reign supreme. Come on man, you cant be so dense as not to see Trents immense potential.
 
georg013 said:
From NFL.com

Trent Richardson's career trajectory continues its downward spiral.

The Colts declared Richardson inactive for Sunday afternoon's Divisional Round game against the Denver Broncos. This could be the final game of Richardson's time with the Colts, less than two years after they gave up a first-round pick for him. Guys like Zurlon Tipton and Michael Hill are active over Richardson. If he can't be active in the biggest game of the season over players signed "off the street," it's hard to imagine the Colts continuing to salvage his career.

Buy low time. Indy never was a good fit. He is going to put it all together like Ingram did. Just watch. Someone will sign him once he is released. He is too young and talented not to play in the league. You heard it here first. I'm back on the TRich bandwagon. Don't own him anywhere but will be looking to get him where I can.
A team that wanted to run a power running game supported by one of the best quarterbacks in the league wasn't a good fit?

 
georg013 said:
voiceofunreason said:
georg013 said:
From NFL.com

Trent Richardson's career trajectory continues its downward spiral.

The Colts declared Richardson inactive for Sunday afternoon's Divisional Round game against the Denver Broncos. This could be the final game of Richardson's time with the Colts, less than two years after they gave up a first-round pick for him. Guys like Zurlon Tipton and Michael Hill are active over Richardson. If he can't be active in the biggest game of the season over players signed "off the street," it's hard to imagine the Colts continuing to salvage his career.





Buy low time. Indy never was a good fit. He is going to put it all together like Ingram did. Just watch. Someone will sign him once he is released. He is too young and talented not to play in the league. You heard it here first. I'm back on the TRich bandwagon. Don't own him anywhere but will be looking to get him where I can.
Horrible fit for any rb....well, except for Donald Brown, Ahmad Bradshaw, Dan Herron, and Zurlon Tipton. Those guys are elite talents and "team proof" though.
Those tiny guys are perfect for Indy's offense. Trent needs to play somewhere where Oompa Loompas dont reign supreme. Come on man, you cant be so dense as not to see Trents immense potential.
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

Well, I would imagine you SHOULD be able to easily acquire him in all your leagues, if you don't already have him. Let us know how much you pay in each, can't wait.

 
georg013 said:
voiceofunreason said:
georg013 said:
From NFL.com

Trent Richardson's career trajectory continues its downward spiral.

The Colts declared Richardson inactive for Sunday afternoon's Divisional Round game against the Denver Broncos. This could be the final game of Richardson's time with the Colts, less than two years after they gave up a first-round pick for him. Guys like Zurlon Tipton and Michael Hill are active over Richardson. If he can't be active in the biggest game of the season over players signed "off the street," it's hard to imagine the Colts continuing to salvage his career.





Buy low time. Indy never was a good fit. He is going to put it all together like Ingram did. Just watch. Someone will sign him once he is released. He is too young and talented not to play in the league. You heard it here first. I'm back on the TRich bandwagon. Don't own him anywhere but will be looking to get him where I can.
Horrible fit for any rb....well, except for Donald Brown, Ahmad Bradshaw, Dan Herron, and Zurlon Tipton. Those guys are elite talents and "team proof" though.
Those tiny guys are perfect for Indy's offense. Trent needs to play somewhere where Oompa Loompas dont reign supreme. Come on man, you cant be so dense as not to see Trents immense potential.
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

Well, I would imagine you SHOULD be able to easily acquire him in all your leagues, if you don't already have him. Let us know how much you pay in each, can't wait.
He will be able to get him on the WW......but what's the point. This guy will be out of the league no later than after pre-season 2015. He is toast. Done. He should pray the CFL calls.

 
georg013 said:
voiceofunreason said:
georg013 said:
From NFL.com

Trent Richardson's career trajectory continues its downward spiral.

The Colts declared Richardson inactive for Sunday afternoon's Divisional Round game against the Denver Broncos. This could be the final game of Richardson's time with the Colts, less than two years after they gave up a first-round pick for him. Guys like Zurlon Tipton and Michael Hill are active over Richardson. If he can't be active in the biggest game of the season over players signed "off the street," it's hard to imagine the Colts continuing to salvage his career.





Buy low time. Indy never was a good fit. He is going to put it all together like Ingram did. Just watch. Someone will sign him once he is released. He is too young and talented not to play in the league. You heard it here first. I'm back on the TRich bandwagon. Don't own him anywhere but will be looking to get him where I can.
Horrible fit for any rb....well, except for Donald Brown, Ahmad Bradshaw, Dan Herron, and Zurlon Tipton. Those guys are elite talents and "team proof" though.
Those tiny guys are perfect for Indy's offense. Trent needs to play somewhere where Oompa Loompas dont reign supreme. Come on man, you cant be so dense as not to see Trents immense potential.
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

Well, I would imagine you SHOULD be able to easily acquire him in all your leagues, if you don't already have him. Let us know how much you pay in each, can't wait.
He will be able to get him on the WW......but what's the point. This guy will be out of the league no later than after pre-season 2015. He is toast. Done. He should pray the CFL calls.
Playing on a wider field will not help him.

 
Trent was given all the leeway in the world by the Colts until he said this on Dec 4th: http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2014/12/03/colts-coach-chuck-pagano-stands-behind-struggling-trent-richardson/19851079/

"People have just been stacking the box," he said. "I haven't been getting the look I was getting earlier in the season. Now that Ahmad (Bradshaw's injured) people have just been counting on me to run the ball. I haven't been getting all the same looks as everybody else.

"When it comes down to it, I want to say I've been doing my job because every time I go in and (we) play-action, somebody's wide open. If they're trying to stop me and Andrew Luck is having a good day or Boom (Herron) is having a good day, I'm doing good because they're distracted by me and they can't stop the other guys. I'm doing my job."
Trent takes no personal responsibility for his terrible play. NFL defenses are not scared of him, but he claims 8 in the box to stop him which is why Luck can throw the football. I read it "I'll take credit for Luck's success, not my own". Talk about an ego. Rushes since those remarks:

Week 14 - 7 rushes

Week 15 - 9

Week 16 - 2

Week 17 - 6

Playoff game 1 - Active, 0 touches

Playoff game 2 - Inactive

I had hoped he would come out with something to prove this year. His ego is still riding his draft slot. He may get one or two more opportunities in the league, but I am not sure he will make use of them.

 
Trent was given all the leeway in the world by the Colts until he said this on Dec 4th: http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2014/12/03/colts-coach-chuck-pagano-stands-behind-struggling-trent-richardson/19851079/

"People have just been stacking the box," he said. "I haven't been getting the look I was getting earlier in the season. Now that Ahmad (Bradshaw's injured) people have just been counting on me to run the ball. I haven't been getting all the same looks as everybody else.

"When it comes down to it, I want to say I've been doing my job because every time I go in and (we) play-action, somebody's wide open. If they're trying to stop me and Andrew Luck is having a good day or Boom (Herron) is having a good day, I'm doing good because they're distracted by me and they can't stop the other guys. I'm doing my job."
Trent takes no personal responsibility for his terrible play. NFL defenses are not scared of him, but he claims 8 in the box to stop him which is why Luck can throw the football. I read it "I'll take credit for Luck's success, not my own". Talk about an ego. Rushes since those remarks:

Week 14 - 7 rushes

Week 15 - 9

Week 16 - 2

Week 17 - 6

Playoff game 1 - Active, 0 touches

Playoff game 2 - Inactive

I had hoped he would come out with something to prove this year. His ego is still riding his draft slot. He may get one or two more opportunities in the league, but I am not sure he will make use of them.
That isn't the reason. If you look through this thread (see my posts, I commented on how he talked like this all the time), you will see that he has been saying the same thing all the time since last year. In the pre-season some of his supporters would link to articles like this about how he was working to get better and learning the offense in the off-season, as if 16 games last year wasn't enough. I replied to most of those posts noting near the bottom in every one that he would then say something exactly like this that he was taking the pressure off of Luck. His response isn't new this time, it is the same thing as always, denial, which is why I avoided him once again. I didn't draft him last year either, he was going way too high for mediocre results based on high volumes.

What happened this year is an exact copy of last year. Early on, he got carries, someone else played better with the same limited number of carries and in the post-season they ignored him. He had 3 carries in two playoff games last year and Brown had a ton of touches in those same games. I guess they just decided he wasn't even valuable enough to be in the game. Took them 2 years, but they finally got it. They'd rather have a backup to the 4th string LB than have him get anywhere near the ball.

 
Guy looks like garbage. I suppose he could get a wake up call by getting cut but I'd sell him for a ham sandwich and so would the Colts I imagine.

 
Trent was given all the leeway in the world by the Colts until he said this on Dec 4th: http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2014/12/03/colts-coach-chuck-pagano-stands-behind-struggling-trent-richardson/19851079/

"People have just been stacking the box," he said. "I haven't been getting the look I was getting earlier in the season. Now that Ahmad (Bradshaw's injured) people have just been counting on me to run the ball. I haven't been getting all the same looks as everybody else.

"When it comes down to it, I want to say I've been doing my job because every time I go in and (we) play-action, somebody's wide open. If they're trying to stop me and Andrew Luck is having a good day or Boom (Herron) is having a good day, I'm doing good because they're distracted by me and they can't stop the other guys. I'm doing my job."
Trent takes no personal responsibility for his terrible play. NFL defenses are not scared of him, but he claims 8 in the box to stop him which is why Luck can throw the football. I read it "I'll take credit for Luck's success, not my own". Talk about an ego. Rushes since those remarks:

Week 14 - 7 rushes

Week 15 - 9

Week 16 - 2

Week 17 - 6

Playoff game 1 - Active, 0 touches

Playoff game 2 - Inactive

I had hoped he would come out with something to prove this year. His ego is still riding his draft slot. He may get one or two more opportunities in the league, but I am not sure he will make use of them.
who's going to distract the pats' defense?

 
Bojang0301 said:
Guy looks like garbage. I suppose he could get a wake up call by getting cut but I'd sell him for a ham sandwich and so would the Colts I imagine.
Not sure his struggles are "wake up call" material.

I really can't believe just how bad he is. It's amazing.

 
It might be time to retire this and all other threads regarding Richardson. Now that we know what he is. I mean we could spend all day talking about Shonn Greene...
we knew what he was 90 pages ago, but that didn't stop anybody from posting about it

 
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He didn't even get drafted in my shark league.
You may want to reconsider what constitutes a "shark" league.
Correct me if I am wrong but he is still a starting RB with little proven depth behind him, right?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'd venture that Bradshaw has proven a hell of a lot more at the NFL level than Richardson has.
What does that have to do with the little depth behind him? Correct me if I am wrong, but having one guy who is an injury risk is little depth last I checked.

Bradshaw is an injury risk and who else? no namers. Just because some has hype for guys like Herron, does not mean he is proven depth.
No namers?? Looool

Dude, this is football - not gettin' in a vip room at the club.

Off brand destroys richardson
So Herron is better than Richardson? Never played a meaningful snap in a n NFL game, but just because you dislike Richardson he is better?
well, I think that question's been answered.

or, were we talking about punt coverage?

 
Trent was given all the leeway in the world by the Colts until he said this on Dec 4th: http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2014/12/03/colts-coach-chuck-pagano-stands-behind-struggling-trent-richardson/19851079/

"People have just been stacking the box," he said. "I haven't been getting the look I was getting earlier in the season. Now that Ahmad (Bradshaw's injured) people have just been counting on me to run the ball. I haven't been getting all the same looks as everybody else.

"When it comes down to it, I want to say I've been doing my job because every time I go in and (we) play-action, somebody's wide open. If they're trying to stop me and Andrew Luck is having a good day or Boom (Herron) is having a good day, I'm doing good because they're distracted by me and they can't stop the other guys. I'm doing my job."
Trent takes no personal responsibility for his terrible play. NFL defenses are not scared of him, but he claims 8 in the box to stop him which is why Luck can throw the football. I read it "I'll take credit for Luck's success, not my own". Talk about an ego. Rushes since those remarks:

Week 14 - 7 rushes

Week 15 - 9

Week 16 - 2

Week 17 - 6

Playoff game 1 - Active, 0 touches

Playoff game 2 - Inactive

I had hoped he would come out with something to prove this year. His ego is still riding his draft slot. He may get one or two more opportunities in the league, but I am not sure he will make use of them.
That isn't the reason. If you look through this thread (see my posts, I commented on how he talked like this all the time), you will see that he has been saying the same thing all the time since last year.
Please link your posts to his quotes. As far as I can remember Trent always said the PC thing, especially when traded. I believe the Colts brass had enough when it was clear he was not taking personal responsibility to get better.

 
Trent was given all the leeway in the world by the Colts until he said this on Dec 4th: http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2014/12/03/colts-coach-chuck-pagano-stands-behind-struggling-trent-richardson/19851079/

"People have just been stacking the box," he said. "I haven't been getting the look I was getting earlier in the season. Now that Ahmad (Bradshaw's injured) people have just been counting on me to run the ball. I haven't been getting all the same looks as everybody else.

"When it comes down to it, I want to say I've been doing my job because every time I go in and (we) play-action, somebody's wide open. If they're trying to stop me and Andrew Luck is having a good day or Boom (Herron) is having a good day, I'm doing good because they're distracted by me and they can't stop the other guys. I'm doing my job."
Trent takes no personal responsibility for his terrible play. NFL defenses are not scared of him, but he claims 8 in the box to stop him which is why Luck can throw the football. I read it "I'll take credit for Luck's success, not my own". Talk about an ego. Rushes since those remarks:

Week 14 - 7 rushes

Week 15 - 9

Week 16 - 2

Week 17 - 6

Playoff game 1 - Active, 0 touches

Playoff game 2 - Inactive

I had hoped he would come out with something to prove this year. His ego is still riding his draft slot. He may get one or two more opportunities in the league, but I am not sure he will make use of them.
That isn't the reason. If you look through this thread (see my posts, I commented on how he talked like this all the time), you will see that he has been saying the same thing all the time since last year.
Please link your posts to his quotes. As far as I can remember Trent always said the PC thing, especially when traded. I believe the Colts brass had enough when it was clear he was not taking personal responsibility to get better.
I tried searching and didn't seem to find everything, I know there were more articles. I couldn't find my post from June 5th, but found someone's reply to it, so here is a link: LINK

There were others, but I didn't go back further into the off season (soon after the 2013 season ended). Suffice it to say that his supporters would post the articles and at the top they would say how hard he is working to do better and then at the end snippets just like yours above with the same acting like he took the pressure off of Luck. Same stories, some took it as positive and some like me read into it that he hadn't changed at all and still thought he was fine.

 
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I remember reading that a while ago. The part I didn't like (from Richardson's response) was:

"I've been looking at a lot of film," he said. "I didn't do as bad as I thought I did last year."

He arrived at this conclusion, he said, after observing on film how fiercely defenses attempted to slow him.

"It made me stronger (seeing) a lot of people still respect me," Richardson said. "They were stacking 10 (defenders) in the box, nine in the box. You didn't see that for every team, especially when you have a quarterback like Andrew Luck and you have receivers out there like T.Y. (Hilton) and Reggie (Wayne)."
It goes from him admitting his issues and then right back to him thinking the defenses were out to get him and not Luck. At first I thought it was sort of a good sign that maybe he got it and was going to try and do what he needed to do to improve and then I felt like it's not worth risking getting fool's gold again.
Good post. Did not catch this the first time around. Pretty clear he takes no responsibility for himself, but wants to take credit for Luck's abilities and the team wins. I hope the Colts cut him.

 
I remember reading that a while ago. The part I didn't like (from Richardson's response) was:

"I've been looking at a lot of film," he said. "I didn't do as bad as I thought I did last year."

He arrived at this conclusion, he said, after observing on film how fiercely defenses attempted to slow him.

"It made me stronger (seeing) a lot of people still respect me," Richardson said. "They were stacking 10 (defenders) in the box, nine in the box. You didn't see that for every team, especially when you have a quarterback like Andrew Luck and you have receivers out there like T.Y. (Hilton) and Reggie (Wayne)."
It goes from him admitting his issues and then right back to him thinking the defenses were out to get him and not Luck. At first I thought it was sort of a good sign that maybe he got it and was going to try and do what he needed to do to improve and then I felt like it's not worth risking getting fool's gold again.
Good post. Did not catch this the first time around. Pretty clear he takes no responsibility for himself, but wants to take credit for Luck's abilities and the team wins. I hope the Colts cut him.
He has literally said the same thing since the 2013 season about spreading around the blame and acting like he helped the team. They should cut him. Even if it is dead money, they have given him 3 touches in 4 (soon to be 5) playoff games where he was perfectly healthy. That screams no point in having him.

If some other team tries to use him and get him to play better, the Colts win by hurting that team.

 
you guys can laugh about him being delusional all you want, but that's just the same things a lot of posters said throughout this thread since it's inception

 
Every page of this thread is like "Groundhog Day". I'm at the point where I play "I Got You Babe" right before I click to open it.

It's like a :tfp: that I can't look away from. There will be support groups founded just for participants and readers of this thread.

I lost my drive to reason here back on page 3 or so(Then I somehow got tricked into trying again when some numbnuts started another TRich thread), but I think I have found a decent comp who he may be able to live up to. Whether it's his vision, intelligence, dancing around too much, O-line, OC, changing teams, injuries, sex videos whatever. Is it fixable, is it not fixable, nobody knows so why argue? However, can we at least agree that there is a possibility of him still having a Marcus Allen type of career? Low YPC on rushes, lots of action in the passing game. I would be happy with this from him and I think it's attainable regardless of whatever his problem has been up to this point. Ok. Go ahead and tear me apart, or better yet, agree with me :hifive:
:tebow: :tebow: :tebow: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

this may be the best thread ever

hall of famer , 12k rusher and nfl legend marcus allen.......?

I KNEW he reminded me of somebody last year but I couldn't place it !!!

that's been bugging me all offseason :hifive: bro
Ha! You may have out-emoticon'd me but you'll never break my spirits Kool Aid Larry!!! I knew I could troll somebody by bringing a HOF name into this discussion. I love your response though. Touche'

Now seriously, if I had instead asked, "do you think there is a chance TRich could produce a stat line like this over the course of his career?":

162 carries/yr, 596 rush yards/yr, 3.68 YPC, 29 catches/yr, 260 rec yards/yr, 7 total TD/yr

If you honestly answer no to this, then fine. But I don't see how anyone can come to that conclusion at this point in time. I think he can match or exceed these numbers pretty easily.

Now I am not saying he will be a hall of famer like Allen. There are reasons to why Allen is in the hall of fame other than just his stats. Also, I will admit I fished here because I only used the last 12 years of Allen's career and left out his three best years. But my point is that if a HOF RB played the final 12 years of his career averaging these stats, then I think TRich can last in the NFL longer than another year or two even if he never produces top 10 numbers. I can see him being a valuable asset to the Colts dynasty over the next 5-8 years and being serviceable for fantasy purposes as an RB2 as well. Those who are writing him off and saying he will be out of the league in 2 years are being short sighted.
hmmmm....let me do some math on this --- mostly because I like math.

after 455 carries he's at 3.3 ypc on the career.

this should be about his last season in the league, and probably benched for half of it, so I'd estimate he gets maybe another 100 carries to bring that 3.3 up to allen's 3.7 ypc when he was in his 40s, and is most likely cherry picked as his worst year in a 20 yr career.

anyway, that's about 500 yds this year on those 100 carries for a 5 ypc in 2014 --- so, no, I don't think he can produce a career stat line like that.
I'm willing to admit when I was wrong -- don't think he was benched for nearly half the season and got well over 100 carries.

good posting, to you, sir, and bon vivant!

gotta admit the dude nailed it on the statline -- except maybe td

 
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Sure they are, m[SIZE=13.63636302948px]y FF track record hardly depends on getting Richardson wrong. [/SIZE][SIZE=13.63636302948px]I thought he would be a decent PPR RB2 in dynasty, with sizable receptions total and lots of GL TDs. Oh well, I guessed wrong.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=13.63636302948px]But that's hardly a reason to stop following one [/SIZE][SIZE=13.63636302948px]of the most fascinating FF topics in recent memory. This is absolutely [/SIZE][SIZE=13.63636302948px]unprecedented downfall, the reasons for which are definitely worth discussing at length. Look at his progression from the college performance through the scouting process through the draft through the CLE performance and onto Indy. I can't recall anything like this. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=13.63636302948px]So yeah, I've enjoyed the insightful opinions and points of view in this thread, but - alas - to get to those I have had to dig through Larry's insecure posts for months now....[/SIZE]

 
. They should cut him. Even if it is dead money,
I've thougth for over the past few months there was a good chance he'd be cut. Over the past few weeks I think it's become obvious.

I can't imagine he'd have any dead money associated with him, the Colts did not sign him to his rookie deal so they never paid out his bonus. I think he's due a little over $3 million so no chance they pay that and no chance anyone trades for that. He'll get cut and I think quickly, as in the first day or so business is open to cut players. I'd guess they want to get this mistake past them as soon as possible and I'm also guessing getting #####ed for Zurlon Tipton is not making him the best lockerroom presence either. Best for everyone to cut and move on.

 
Sure they are, m[SIZE=13.63636302948px]y FF track record hardly depends on getting Richardson wrong. [/SIZE][SIZE=13.63636302948px]I thought he would be a decent PPR RB2 in dynasty, with sizable receptions total and lots of GL TDs. Oh well, I guessed wrong.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=13.63636302948px]But that's hardly a reason to stop following one [/SIZE][SIZE=13.63636302948px]of the most fascinating FF topics in recent memory. This is absolutely [/SIZE][SIZE=13.63636302948px]unprecedented downfall, the reasons for which are definitely worth discussing at length. Look at his progression from the college performance through the scouting process through the draft through the CLE performance and onto Indy. I can't recall anything like this. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=13.63636302948px]So yeah, I've enjoyed the insightful opinions and points of view in this thread, but - alas - to get to those I have had to dig through Larry's insecure posts for months now....[/SIZE]
Yes, he's an All-time interesting case. Some say he was not that great in Cleveland but to me that's debatable. What's not debateable was that after his rookie season he's been the worst RB in the NFL. Consdidering he was banged up that rookie year it's even more puzzling that he got worse and not just bad but basicallly historically bad.

Other puzzling thing with him was his playing time this season. It nosedived AFTER Bradshaw got hurt. If he was healthy I've been unable to wrap my head around that. I mean he was not running good when Bradshaw was healthy and I get they wanted to preserve Bradshaw but why wait until he got hurt to finally decide enough was enough and lets not play this guy? We'll probably never find out but I'd like to know what the final breaking point was for the Colt and again it's not that he sucked because he'd been sucking so just found it odd they'd finally say enough when they are down a RB.

 
. They should cut him. Even if it is dead money,
I've thougth for over the past few months there was a good chance he'd be cut. Over the past few weeks I think it's become obvious.

I can't imagine he'd have any dead money associated with him, the Colts did not sign him to his rookie deal so they never paid out his bonus. I think he's due a little over $3 million so no chance they pay that and no chance anyone trades for that. He'll get cut and I think quickly, as in the first day or so business is open to cut players. I'd guess they want to get this mistake past them as soon as possible and I'm also guessing getting #####ed for Zurlon Tipton is not making him the best lockerroom presence either. Best for everyone to cut and move on.
here's his spotrac page

Trent Richardson signed a 4 year / $20,489,796 contract with the Indianapolis Colts, including a $13,341,000 signing bonus, $20,489,796 guaranteed

Contract Notes:
  • Fully guaranteed
  • Signing Bonus: $13.341 million
I think what they meant to say was CLE there

I'd say richardson probably got a bit more run to establish his turribleness due to the investment in him, which is why you generally don't see players produce this poorly --- they're usually benched and/or cut by now.

 
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Dr. Octopus said:
. They should cut him. Even if it is dead money,
I've thougth for over the past few months there was a good chance he'd be cut. Over the past few weeks I think it's become obvious.

I can't imagine he'd have any dead money associated with him, the Colts did not sign him to his rookie deal so they never paid out his bonus. I think he's due a little over $3 million so no chance they pay that and no chance anyone trades for that. He'll get cut and I think quickly, as in the first day or so business is open to cut players. I'd guess they want to get this mistake past them as soon as possible and I'm also guessing getting #####ed for Zurlon Tipton is not making him the best lockerroom presence either. Best for everyone to cut and move on.
His rookie contract was fully guaranteed.
I did not know his contract was guaranteed. Still think he gets cut but did not know that.

 
. They should cut him. Even if it is dead money,
I've thougth for over the past few months there was a good chance he'd be cut. Over the past few weeks I think it's become obvious.

I can't imagine he'd have any dead money associated with him, the Colts did not sign him to his rookie deal so they never paid out his bonus. I think he's due a little over $3 million so no chance they pay that and no chance anyone trades for that. He'll get cut and I think quickly, as in the first day or so business is open to cut players. I'd guess they want to get this mistake past them as soon as possible and I'm also guessing getting #####ed for Zurlon Tipton is not making him the best lockerroom presence either. Best for everyone to cut and move on.
here's his spotrac page

Trent Richardson signed a 4 year / $20,489,796 contract with the Indianapolis Colts, including a $13,341,000 signing bonus, $20,489,796 guaranteed

Contract Notes:
  • Fully guaranteed
  • Signing Bonus: $13.341 million
I think what they meant to say was CLE there

I'd say richardson probably got a bit more run to establish his turribleness due to the investment in him, which is why you generally don't see players produce this poorly --- they're usually benched and/or cut by now.
For sure, that's why it's going to be hard for another RB to ever duplicate how bad he was these past few years and we may have just witnessed the worst two year run by a RB ever, at least that I can ever recall. Most RB's who perform that badly, make that most player that perform that badly, don't keep playing if not for the investment.

 
menobrown said:
Yes, he's an All-time interesting case. Some say he was not that great in Cleveland but to me that's debatable.
As a Clevelander who watched every game, it's not debatable. He wasn't that great as a rookie. He wasn't as bad as he is now though.

 
menobrown said:
Dr. Octopus said:
menobrown said:
. They should cut him. Even if it is dead money,
I've thougth for over the past few months there was a good chance he'd be cut. Over the past few weeks I think it's become obvious.

I can't imagine he'd have any dead money associated with him, the Colts did not sign him to his rookie deal so they never paid out his bonus. I think he's due a little over $3 million so no chance they pay that and no chance anyone trades for that. He'll get cut and I think quickly, as in the first day or so business is open to cut players. I'd guess they want to get this mistake past them as soon as possible and I'm also guessing getting #####ed for Zurlon Tipton is not making him the best lockerroom presence either. Best for everyone to cut and move on.
His rookie contract was fully guaranteed.
I did not know his contract was guaranteed. Still think he gets cut but did not know that.
Looks like I'm wrong:

Trent Richardson's 2015 contract is not guaranteed.

Richardson was embarrassingly a healthy scratch in the Divisional Round win at Denver. He's fallen behind both Boom Herron and Zurlon Tipton at running back, and couldn't beat out Michael Hill for a special teams role. If the Colts bring T-Rich back at $3.1M next season, it will only be as a human shield to protect their other runners from accumulating too much wear and tear during the regular season
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Traded to the Raiders for a 5th round pick is my prediction.
Cut and goes through waivers unclaimed is mine. With his track record, it seems hard to believe that any team (not even the Raiders) would commit to the 1.03 pick, year-4 salary.

Once cut, I think division rivals Jags and Titans would be most interested in his services for obvious reasons. Raiders, Jets, Vikings (assuming AP goes) are next on the list. Patriots as the dark horse - BB loves that stuff.

Overall, I doubt he remains without a team. Just like in deeper fantasy leagues, at least one team will believe in the reclamation project.

 
menobrown said:
Dr. Octopus said:
menobrown said:
. They should cut him. Even if it is dead money,
I've thougth for over the past few months there was a good chance he'd be cut. Over the past few weeks I think it's become obvious.

I can't imagine he'd have any dead money associated with him, the Colts did not sign him to his rookie deal so they never paid out his bonus. I think he's due a little over $3 million so no chance they pay that and no chance anyone trades for that. He'll get cut and I think quickly, as in the first day or so business is open to cut players. I'd guess they want to get this mistake past them as soon as possible and I'm also guessing getting #####ed for Zurlon Tipton is not making him the best lockerroom presence either. Best for everyone to cut and move on.
His rookie contract was fully guaranteed.
I did not know his contract was guaranteed. Still think he gets cut but did not know that.
Looks like I'm wrong:

Trent Richardson's 2015 contract is not guaranteed.

Richardson was embarrassingly a healthy scratch in the Divisional Round win at Denver. He's fallen behind both Boom Herron and Zurlon Tipton at running back, and couldn't beat out Michael Hill for a special teams role. If the Colts bring T-Rich back at $3.1M next season, it will only be as a human shield to protect their other runners from accumulating too much wear and tear during the regular season
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I saw that too, but Roto is wrong. The article they linked says that his contract is guaranteed.

 

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