You missed it because it was buried. That it was buried is exactly what I thought as I read the piece, and sympathized with your missing that part.Sorry, I skimmed it and missed that part.
This seems like a totally normal Presidential Statement and in no way whatsoever totally nutballs.Rod Blogojevick? Now there's a name I haven't heard in a long time. I wonder why he's Trending this morning.
(Clicks one link)
Okay I hate everything now.
So when you criticized stories that were "egregiously false or completely missing information", what you meant your criticism to be was of stories with "true and relevant information that is absolutely included, but not featured prominently in the article for people who skim and don't read it completely"?You missed it because it was buried. That it was buried is exactly what I thought as I read the piece, and sympathized with your missing that part.
It's all about framing. They could have said "Convicted criminal from Iraq deported to Iraq," but they chose their own lede and to bury the other.
This is why people talk about media bias all the time. The real story is five or six paragraphs in, after the depiction of not only the death, but a description of the political reaction to the death, coming from legislators of the (presumably) heavily Iraq-populated by once-dissident peoples. Hardly a revelation.
Seemingly much less important is that he was convicted for a home invasion, served seventeen months (!), and had been allowed to stay.
And a poster in the ice raid thread said, eh the 2 crimes don't seem all that serious! That is the delusional thinking of the pro illegal immigrant folks. Unbelievable.You missed it because it was buried. That it was buried is exactly what I thought as I read the piece, and sympathized with your missing that part.
It's all about framing. They could have said "Convicted criminal from Iraq deported to Iraq," but they chose their own lede and to bury the other.
This is why people talk about media bias all the time. The real story is five or six paragraphs in, after the depiction of not only the death, but a description of the political reaction to the death, coming from legislators of the (presumably) heavily Iraq-populated by once-dissident peoples' district. Hardly a revelation.
Seemingly much less important is that he was convicted for a home invasion, served seventeen months (!), and had been allowed to stay.
I had not read the story yet at the time of the comment you're quoting -- I did read it in another thread. In other words, consider it a comment splice. The second time IK linked to it over in a different thread (he linked to the same story twice), I read it, and that's what I thought must have happened.So when you criticized stories that were "egregiously false or completely missing information", what you meant your criticism to be was of stories with "true and relevant information that is absolutely included, but not featured prominently in the article for people who skim and don't read it completely"?
Yeah, initially I thought they may have updated the article to include the information (as news outlets do sometimes to CYA), but it looks like the latest revision was from last night. My only thought here was that there's enough justified criticism of the media, that it's not all that productive when the criticism is unwarranted or inaccurate.I had not read the story yet at the time of the comment you're quoting -- I did read it in another thread. In other words, consider it a comment splice. The second time IK linked to it over in a different thread (he linked to the same story twice), I read it, and that's what I thought must have happened.
Without snark, thanks for seeking clarity on that as it must have appeared confusing.
Fair enough. I know enough about IK as a poster to know that he's really a measured person, way more so than I am, way more so than the general tone and tenor of the board. That's not fluffery, that's a common observation by many on both sides of whatever debate is going on.Yeah, initially I thought they may have updated the article to include the information (as news outlets do sometimes to CYA), but it looks like the latest revision was from last night. My only thought here was that there's enough justified criticism of the media, that it's not all that productive when the criticism is unwarranted or inaccurate.
Oh of course. That's why I didn't give Ivan a hard time other than to point out that the information was included in the article. Given the reference to the ICE thread, I went over and read it, and it looks like a different article on the same topic was posted there that didn't include the information, so Ivan's point stands.Fair enough. I know enough about IK as a poster to know that he's really a measured person, way more so than I am, way more so than the general tone and tenor of the board. That's not fluffery, that's a common observation by many on both sides of whatever debate is going on.
So naturally I'm willing to run with things a little more, or forgive a little more when there's something hinky as a result.
Oh, okay. I must have come back and read this link then, which was the first link -- I think.Oh of course. That's why I didn't give Ivan a hard time other than to point out that the information was included in the article. Given the reference to the ICE thread, I went over and read it, and it looks like a different article on the same topic didn't include the information, so Ivan's point stands.
Trump promotes OANN but never actually seems to watch it. He frequently tweets about things that he's seen on Fox or CNN but I don't think he's ever tweeted about something that he saw on OANN.A right wing network that the owner pushes staff to speak pro trump, were instructed to be anti Hillary, downplay all Russia stories and be anti abortion.What the heck is OANN? Never heard of it.
Of course. No way she can move up since she won’t blank Trump’s blank...figuratively.·
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JUST IN: Deputy Intelligence Director Sue Gordon will reportedly leave her position following a meeting with Trump
Sue Gordon has quit or been fired, so now top 2 are out at the most important nerve center for national intelligence.We'll see by the 15th. I'm sure there will be plenty of complaints if he's in violation.
>>Trump was reluctant to keep Gordon, regarding her as part of a career establishment of which he has long been suspicious, according to officials with knowledge of the president’s views.<<Why would Sue Gordon resign?
https://twitter.com/gregpinelo/status/1159667119556108288?s=19Did they really have an orphaned baby brought back to the hospital for a photo-op? Please tell me that’s not true.
Might as well suspend me now for what I’d like to post.
Makes two of usMight as well suspend me now for what I’d like to post.
Bump Kaep, AOC or something else.Did they really have an orphaned baby brought back to the hospital for a photo-op? Please tell me that’s not true.
It’s the idea they are owning the libs that blinds them.There are actual Americans that think this guy is the greatest president in their lifetimes. Maybe ever.
There is no bottom. It is a sad combination of raging narcissism and complete lack of empathy.Likely the worst thing I've seen him do, and that's saying a lot.
"Best president ever"There is no bottom. It is a sad combination of raging narcissism and complete lack of empathy.
Just what you want in a President.
i don't think he knows what he's doingThere is no bottom. It is a sad combination of raging narcissism and complete lack of empathy.
Just what you want in a President.
I’ll step up. Not sure I really care either way these days.Might as well suspend me now for what I’d like to post.
He is a sociopath. Sociopaths do not understand human emotions. They're not even capable of experiencing emotions, aside from the most primal anger-related feelings. (This is part of the reason why many sociopaths will mock people who express emotion -- they are projecting their hidden resentment and jealousy.)i don't think he knows what he's doingThere is no bottom. It is a sad combination of raging narcissism and complete lack of empathy.
Just what you want in a President.
Don't forget Obama was elected after he completely mis-handled Katrina...the optimist in me thinks this might be trump's katrina
Should have been double thumbs up. Look at THIS GUY!the thumbs up is a bit over the top, don'tcha think?
A great experiment would be to photoshop Obama into some of these images of Trump and ask Republicans what they think of it. Then, reveal the real image and listen to them explain away why it's better. r/cringeThere are actual Americans that think this guy is the greatest president in their lifetimes. Maybe ever.
You think?i don't think he knows what he's doing
Can you imagine growing up and someone showing you this picture of you as a baby with the President of the United States with his smile and thumbs-up. You ask, "oh wow why did he do that? Was I some kind of miracle baby that survived a terrible disease or operation? Did I win some kind of cutest baby in America contest?"It's like literally every day this guy sinks to a new low. It's as if he's actively trying to get more evil.
WapoThe White House has invited tech giants including Facebook, Google and Twitter to a discussion Friday about the rise of violent online extremism, one of the Trump administration’s first major engagements on the issue despite years of warnings that racial and ethnic animus on social media is linked to some of the country’s deadliest attacks.
But President Trump’s own attendance isn’t certain — he’s scheduled to be in New York raising campaign cash — leaving some to question the sincerity of the effort after months during which Trump has chastised social-media companies as his political foes.
Are you sure you weren't just watching a re-run from last year?You think?i don't think he knows what he's doing
I will give him props this AM for when discussing gun legislation he pointed out that it doesn't make sense that you have to be 21 to buy a handgun but the shooter was able to buy that weapon at 18. He asked a what I think was a Republican if that was being addressed in his new bill and the lawmaker said "no" and Trump responded with, "You know why? You're afraid of the NRA." That was momentarily refreshing. I wish he could somehow accomplish a couple things that are a longterm good for the country so we can at least find one ray of light out this presidency.
‘If you’re a good worker, papers don’t matter’: How a Trump construction crew has relied on immigrants without legal statusMore "do as I say, not as I do" from our Commander in Chief on undocumented workers: https://t.co/WLKqyGqOEk?amp=1
For some reason we had on news in the background on vacation and evidently he followed this brief refreshing with comments about the racist movies coming out of Hollywood and the problems they pose.You think?
I will give him props this AM for when discussing gun legislation he pointed out that it doesn't make sense that you have to be 21 to buy a handgun but the shooter was able to buy that weapon at 18. He asked a what I think was a Republican if that was being addressed in his new bill and the lawmaker said "no" and Trump responded with, "You know why? You're afraid of the NRA." That was momentarily refreshing. I wish he could somehow accomplish a couple things that are a longterm good for the country so we can at least find one ray of light out this presidency.
This was part of the original argument for his election. He might buck both sides and might actually get things done.You think?
I will give him props this AM for when discussing gun legislation he pointed out that it doesn't make sense that you have to be 21 to buy a handgun but the shooter was able to buy that weapon at 18. He asked a what I think was a Republican if that was being addressed in his new bill and the lawmaker said "no" and Trump responded with, "You know why? You're afraid of the NRA." That was momentarily refreshing. I wish he could somehow accomplish a couple things that are a longterm good for the country so we can at least find one ray of light out this presidency.