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I know people love The Shield. I just don't get it that people think it's better (or even as good) as The Wire.

The entire appeal of The Wire is its virtual shedding of all the trite cliches that infect TV cop shows. The Wire had no intentions on treading out those tired melodramatic devices, and instead used real-life police procedures in lieu of constant shootouts. While The Shield is certainly far more realistic that The Wire, you still have some of the remnants of exaggerated, over the top violence.

Maybe I like The Wire more because it's more realistic. But I just don't think The Shield is as good as any of the great HBO dramas.

 
I tried Deadwood for over a season and enjoyed it, but I thought the profanity was so all encompassing that it got annoying. Way too over the top.Finishing off season three of The Shield and very impressed, although it's a bit over the top too. Good stuff though, but not quite as good as The Wire.Not sure where I'll go next. Maybe Battlestar?
Rome was pretty good. Did you see that?
 
I tried Deadwood for over a season and enjoyed it, but I thought the profanity was so all encompassing that it got annoying. Way too over the top.Finishing off season three of The Shield and very impressed, although it's a bit over the top too. Good stuff though, but not quite as good as The Wire.Not sure where I'll go next. Maybe Battlestar?
Rome was pretty good. Did you see that?
I absolutely LOVED Rome. I wish they had done more seasons.I watched (and thoroughly enjoyed) the show Journeyman because I was so impressed with the acting that guy (can't recall his name).
 
Wire finale completed DL overnight - I'm set for it this evening. I may pop the bottle of champagne that's been sitting in the fridge since new years.

Moving on to Weeds next, I guess. Gonna be a rough couple months getting over Bunk, Omar, Bubs, Marlo, Cutty, Bodie, Avon, Stringer Bell, Dookie, Mike, Carver, etc.

 
Wire finale completed DL overnight - I'm set for it this evening. I may pop the bottle of champagne that's been sitting in the fridge since new years.Moving on to Weeds next, I guess. Gonna be a rough couple months getting over Bunk, Omar, Bubs, Marlo, Cutty, Bodie, Avon, Stringer Bell, Dookie, Mike, Carver, etc.
One day at a time brother.
 
I tried Deadwood for over a season and enjoyed it, but I thought the profanity was so all encompassing that it got annoying. Way too over the top.Finishing off season three of The Shield and very impressed, although it's a bit over the top too. Good stuff though, but not quite as good as The Wire.Not sure where I'll go next. Maybe Battlestar?
Rome was pretty good. Did you see that?
I absolutely LOVED Rome. I wish they had done more seasons.I watched (and thoroughly enjoyed) the show Journeyman because I was so impressed with the acting that guy (can't recall his name).
I know you didn't like Deadwood because of the constant profanity, but did you watch OZ? It has less profanity, but a lot of violence. It's almost melodramatic to the point of being a soap opera, but it's still pretty good.
 
I tried Deadwood for over a season and enjoyed it, but I thought the profanity was so all encompassing that it got annoying. Way too over the top.Finishing off season three of The Shield and very impressed, although it's a bit over the top too. Good stuff though, but not quite as good as The Wire.Not sure where I'll go next. Maybe Battlestar?
Rome was pretty good. Did you see that?
I absolutely LOVED Rome. I wish they had done more seasons.I watched (and thoroughly enjoyed) the show Journeyman because I was so impressed with the acting that guy (can't recall his name).
By the way, if you're looking for new series I cannot say enough good things about AMC's Mad Men and Breaking Bad.
 
I tried Deadwood for over a season and enjoyed it, but I thought the profanity was so all encompassing that it got annoying. Way too over the top.Finishing off season three of The Shield and very impressed, although it's a bit over the top too. Good stuff though, but not quite as good as The Wire.Not sure where I'll go next. Maybe Battlestar?
Rome was pretty good. Did you see that?
I absolutely LOVED Rome. I wish they had done more seasons.I watched (and thoroughly enjoyed) the show Journeyman because I was so impressed with the acting that guy (can't recall his name).
By the way, if you're looking for new series I cannot say enough good things about AMC's Mad Men and Breaking Bad.
Saw the first several episodes of Mad Men and enjoyed it, but didn't keep up. It will be a Netflix rental. Haven't heard much about Breaking Bad. As for Oz, watched every one of those and loved it.I'm likely going a little different when The Shield is done, doing Ken Burns Baseball DVDs.
 
I tried Deadwood for over a season and enjoyed it, but I thought the profanity was so all encompassing that it got annoying. Way too over the top.Finishing off season three of The Shield and very impressed, although it's a bit over the top too. Good stuff though, but not quite as good as The Wire.Not sure where I'll go next. Maybe Battlestar?
Rome was pretty good. Did you see that?
I absolutely LOVED Rome. I wish they had done more seasons.I watched (and thoroughly enjoyed) the show Journeyman because I was so impressed with the acting that guy (can't recall his name).
By the way, if you're looking for new series I cannot say enough good things about AMC's Mad Men and Breaking Bad.
:lmao: I'll add Rescue Me to that list but Mad Men and Breaking Bad are better.I gave Weeds a shot and only made it through half a season.
 
I tried Deadwood for over a season and enjoyed it, but I thought the profanity was so all encompassing that it got annoying. Way too over the top.Finishing off season three of The Shield and very impressed, although it's a bit over the top too. Good stuff though, but not quite as good as The Wire.Not sure where I'll go next. Maybe Battlestar?
Rome was pretty good. Did you see that?
I absolutely LOVED Rome. I wish they had done more seasons.I watched (and thoroughly enjoyed) the show Journeyman because I was so impressed with the acting that guy (can't recall his name).
By the way, if you're looking for new series I cannot say enough good things about AMC's Mad Men and Breaking Bad.
:goodposting: I'll add Rescue Me to that list but Mad Men and Breaking Bad are better.I gave Weeds a shot and only made it through half a season.
Rescue Me became a male soap opera a couple seasons ago. Has it gotten better?
 
I tried Deadwood for over a season and enjoyed it, but I thought the profanity was so all encompassing that it got annoying. Way too over the top.Finishing off season three of The Shield and very impressed, although it's a bit over the top too. Good stuff though, but not quite as good as The Wire.Not sure where I'll go next. Maybe Battlestar?
Rome was pretty good. Did you see that?
I absolutely LOVED Rome. I wish they had done more seasons.I watched (and thoroughly enjoyed) the show Journeyman because I was so impressed with the acting that guy (can't recall his name).
By the way, if you're looking for new series I cannot say enough good things about AMC's Mad Men and Breaking Bad.
Saw the first several episodes of Mad Men and enjoyed it, but didn't keep up. It will be a Netflix rental. Haven't heard much about Breaking Bad. As for Oz, watched every one of those and loved it.I'm likely going a little different when The Shield is done, doing Ken Burns Baseball DVDs.
Breaking Bad is outstanding. I highly recommend.
 
Rescue Me became a male soap opera a couple seasons ago. Has it gotten better?
The first 2 seasons were great, imo. The second 2 were good. Still some funny moments but there are just so many characters it seemed to lose focus. Hopefully Season 5 gets back on track. Some of the funniest dialogue on TV.
 
Rescue Me became a male soap opera a couple seasons ago. Has it gotten better?
The first 2 seasons were great, imo. The second 2 were good. Still some funny moments but there are just so many characters it seemed to lose focus. Hopefully Season 5 gets back on track. Some of the funniest dialogue on TV.
Agreed - I think the greater focus on stuff outside the firehouse the last two seasons hurt the show because we didn't get as much of that funny dialogue. I hope the new season has a greater emphasis on life at the station as opposed to the other stuff.
 
I haven't seen The Shield. But The Wire, Lost, and Deadwood are my top three. I can't give my final ranking until Lost is finished.
The Shield is easily better than Lost and Deadwood. I'd rank it 1a. The Wire and 1b. The Shield. The Wire is more realistic but The Shield has more incredible moments.
 
I tried Deadwood for over a season and enjoyed it, but I thought the profanity was so all encompassing that it got annoying. Way too over the top.Finishing off season three of The Shield and very impressed, although it's a bit over the top too. Good stuff though, but not quite as good as The Wire.Not sure where I'll go next. Maybe Battlestar?
If you're liking The Shield now, you're in for a treat. Here's my ranking of The Shield seasons: 5, 1, 7, 4, 6, 2, 3
 
culdeus said:
Just started this series. I have season 1 dvd. If anyone wants to rent out 2-5 to me for a period of a few months in exchange for cash, beer, or other durable goods shoot me a PM.
you could just DL them from mininova.org. That's what I did until the complete series came out on DVD.
I'm lazy
:moneybag: You would go through the trouble of sending cash or beer to someone for the DVDs but won't type "The Wire Season 2 torrent" into google?I think you are confused as to the meaning of the word lazy.
 
culdeus said:
Just started this series. I have season 1 dvd. If anyone wants to rent out 2-5 to me for a period of a few months in exchange for cash, beer, or other durable goods shoot me a PM.
you could just DL them from mininova.org. That's what I did until the complete series came out on DVD.
I'm lazy
:goodposting: You would go through the trouble of sending cash or beer to someone for the DVDs but won't type "The Wire Season 2 torrent" into google?I think you are confused as to the meaning of the word lazy.
You keep using that word, but I do not think it means what you think it means.
 
culdeus said:
Just started this series. I have season 1 dvd. If anyone wants to rent out 2-5 to me for a period of a few months in exchange for cash, beer, or other durable goods shoot me a PM.
I watched them for free through the public library. They let you keep one season for three weeks at a time.
 
culdeus said:
Just started this series. I have season 1 dvd. If anyone wants to rent out 2-5 to me for a period of a few months in exchange for cash, beer, or other durable goods shoot me a PM.
I watched them for free through the public library. They let you keep one season for three weeks at a time.
If it takes you 3 weeks to get through a season of the Wire, you're not doing it right.
 
culdeus said:
Just started this series. I have season 1 dvd. If anyone wants to rent out 2-5 to me for a period of a few months in exchange for cash, beer, or other durable goods shoot me a PM.
I watched them for free through the public library. They let you keep one season for three weeks at a time.
This might work.
 
Just finished watching episode 9, season 5, and am downloading the series finale for viewing tonight. Not sure I've ever rooted for a character in any show/movie as much as I'm rooting for Bubs to stay clean.

1 episode left for me, but unless it's the worst episode in TV history, pretty sure this is going down as my favorite show of all time. Blows the Sopranos away, IMO.
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Uh, you mean DeAngelo?And the series finale will not disappoint.
Uh, no. I meant Bubbs. Last episode of Season 4.
 
culdeus said:
Just started this series. I have season 1 dvd. If anyone wants to rent out 2-5 to me for a period of a few months in exchange for cash, beer, or other durable goods shoot me a PM.
you could just DL them from mininova.org. That's what I did until the complete series came out on DVD.
I'm lazy
:confused: You would go through the trouble of sending cash or beer to someone for the DVDs but won't type "The Wire Season 2 torrent" into google?I think you are confused as to the meaning of the word lazy.
You keep using that word, but I do not think it means what you think it means.
huh?
 
I haven't seen The Shield. But The Wire, Lost, and Deadwood are my top three. I can't give my final ranking until Lost is finished.
The Shield is easily better than Lost and Deadwood. I'd rank it 1a. The Wire and 1b. The Shield. The Wire is more realistic but The Shield has more incredible moments.
yeah, the Wire is more like surprising but at the same time you realize it was business decision or had good reason. Shiled is somewhat sensational
 
I tried Deadwood for over a season and enjoyed it, but I thought the profanity was so all encompassing that it got annoying. Way too over the top.Finishing off season three of The Shield and very impressed, although it's a bit over the top too. Good stuff though, but not quite as good as The Wire.Not sure where I'll go next. Maybe Battlestar?
Rome was pretty good. Did you see that?
I absolutely LOVED Rome. I wish they had done more seasons.I watched (and thoroughly enjoyed) the show Journeyman because I was so impressed with the acting that guy (can't recall his name).
By the way, if you're looking for new series I cannot say enough good things about AMC's Mad Men and Breaking Bad.
Saw the first several episodes of Mad Men and enjoyed it, but didn't keep up. It will be a Netflix rental. Haven't heard much about Breaking Bad. As for Oz, watched every one of those and loved it.I'm likely going a little different when The Shield is done, doing Ken Burns Baseball DVDs.
Did you catch the series Brotherhood on Showtime?Very underrated IMO.
 
Wire finale completed DL overnight - I'm set for it this evening. I may pop the bottle of champagne that's been sitting in the fridge since new years.Moving on to Weeds next, I guess. Gonna be a rough couple months getting over Bunk, Omar, Bubs, Marlo, Cutty, Bodie, Avon, Stringer Bell, Dookie, Mike, Carver, etc.
One day at a time brother.
While I prefer The Shield, I think Omar one of the best characters in TV history..........
 
Did you catch the series Brotherhood on Showtime?Very underrated IMO.
I've only seen a few episodes, but it seems pretty good.
Brotherhood (and Dexter, if you haven't caught it) are both excellent, excellent shows. SHO kicking ### lately.+1 on Breaking Bad too - one of my current favorites.
They had a preview of Brotherhood on one of the Dexter DVDs. Seemed like a solid show.
 
Did you catch the series Brotherhood on Showtime?Very underrated IMO.
I've only seen a few episodes, but it seems pretty good.
Brotherhood (and Dexter, if you haven't caught it) are both excellent, excellent shows. SHO kicking ### lately.+1 on Breaking Bad too - one of my current favorites.
Dexter is goofy, but enjoyable. Showtime is absolutely kicking HBO's ###. Even "United States of Tara" is better than many recent HBO efforts.
 
Dexter is goofy, but enjoyable. Showtime is absolutely kicking HBO's ###. Even "United States of Tara" is better than many recent HBO efforts.
I really want to like USoT, but I think the "alters" are way too overdone. She's great in it, but seems a little too over the top for me. (THen again, I don't know anyone with that condition so who knows).One thing I will say - Eastbound & Down is kick ###. Not groundbreaking television or anything, but definitely good.I also want to really like Tudors (and I do watch it every week) but man it's so cliche.
 
Dexter is goofy, but enjoyable. Showtime is absolutely kicking HBO's ###. Even "United States of Tara" is better than many recent HBO efforts.
I really want to like USoT, but I think the "alters" are way too overdone. She's great in it, but seems a little too over the top for me. (THen again, I don't know anyone with that condition so who knows).One thing I will say - Eastbound & Down is kick ###. Not groundbreaking television or anything, but definitely good.I also want to really like Tudors (and I do watch it every week) but man it's so cliche.
The whole "alter" thing is an absolute gimmick. Diablo Cody (god, typing that name makes me nauseous) is less clever than she thinks she is. But still, the show is pretty interesting.The Tudors is not great (Rome was a lot better), but I still find it entertaining.
 
Dexter is goofy, but enjoyable. Showtime is absolutely kicking HBO's ###. Even "United States of Tara" is better than many recent HBO efforts.
I really want to like USoT, but I think the "alters" are way too overdone. She's great in it, but seems a little too over the top for me. (THen again, I don't know anyone with that condition so who knows).One thing I will say - Eastbound & Down is kick ###. Not groundbreaking television or anything, but definitely good.

I also want to really like Tudors (and I do watch it every week) but man it's so cliche.
I couldnt get through 3 or four episodes.. it was just awful. My wife watches it and I cringe even hearing the dialoge from the next room.
 
One thing I will say - Eastbound & Down is kick ###. Not groundbreaking television or anything, but definitely good.
Eastbound is a show everyone on this board should watch. Great comedy mixed with dark drama. So many classic, Non PC quotes from Kenny Powers : " I thought the blacks in Baltimore were bad, ####, they’re nothing compared to these f@gs you got here in San Francisco…haha”
 
Just started this series. I have season 1 dvd. If anyone wants to rent out 2-5 to me for a period of a few months in exchange for cash, beer, or other durable goods shoot me a PM.
I watched them for free through the public library. They let you keep one season for three weeks at a time.
If it takes you 3 weeks to get through a season of the Wire, you're not doing it right.
:shrug: Just order all the seasons at once. I ended up waiting for season five for over a week and it sucked waiting that long.
 
Rocky Dennis said:
corpcow said:
One thing I will say - Eastbound & Down is kick ###. Not groundbreaking television or anything, but definitely good.
Eastbound is a show everyone on this board should watch. Great comedy mixed with dark drama. So many classic, Non PC quotes from Kenny Powers : " I thought the blacks in Baltimore were bad, ####, they're nothing compared to these f@gs you got here in San Francisco…haha"
Eastbound and Down is great.
 
The Wire: arguably the greatest television programme ever made

No other series in history has attracted such critical praise, not least from the kind of high-minded cultural arbiters who would usually only watch a US crime drama with a peg on their nose. According to these critics, The Wire isn't merely the best thing on TV; it merits comparison with the works of Dickens and Dostoevsky. As the entertainment industry magazine Variety observed, "When television history is written, little else will rival The Wire, a series of such ambition that it is, perhaps inevitably, savoured only by the appreciative few."

Until very recently, this was true: The Wire was minority pursuit, an "unmissable" TV show that most viewers on both sides of the Atlantic had managed to miss. On HBO, the US cable network which produced and first broadcast five series of The Wire between 2002 and 2008, it attracted a zealous but relatively small following of around 4 million viewers an episode. In the UK, fans of The Wire were even thinner on the ground. When the fifth and final season reached its climax last year on the digital channel FX fewer than 70,000 viewers tuned in.

Last Monday, however, the appreciative few became the appreciative many as the BBC aired The Wire's very first episode, introducing the drama to a mainstream terrestrial audience for the first time. BBC2 is now showing all 60 episodes nightly, Monday to Friday. The drama made further headlines this week when the British actor Dominic West, one of the show's stars, criticised the BBC for drowning its schedules with costume dramas and failing to make any "high end contemporary stuff" to rival The Wire.

Regardless of whether you agree with West's sideswipe at the bonnets and britches brigade, he has a point about the "contemporary stuff". The Wire is a TV programme like no other. Its central character isn't a cop or a criminal but a city: the faded industrial port of Baltimore, Maryland. Over the course of 60 episodes and multiple storylines, The Wire portrays Baltimore – and by extension urban America as a whole – through the eyes of dozens of characters. Each series focuses on a different facet of the city, including the drug-ravaged housing projects, down-at-heel docks, crumbling public schools and corrupt political administration. Regardless of whether its characters are running drugs or running for office, The Wire refuses to make black-and-white judgements about them. Its prevailing moral universe is grey.

Much of The Wire's power derives from its authenticity. "All the things that have been depicted in The Wire over the past five years – the crime, the corruption – actually happened in Baltimore," says David Simon, one of the show's creators. "The storylines were stolen from real life." Simon wrote from experience: he is a former journalist who spent years working as a crime reporter on The Baltimore Sun. The series' co-creator, Ed Burns, is a former Baltimore homicide detective.

In fact, The Wire is so unflinching in its portrayal of the city and its problems that Sheila Dixon, the Mayor of Baltimore, has publicly criticised it for being "overly negative". (Incidentally, Dixon was indicted in January of this year for charges that included theft and misconduct in office.) While in 2005, during a trial in New York, members of a drugs gang said that they had been studying episodes of The Wire in order to learn about the latest police surveillance techniques, such was the show's realism.

Baltimore's fallen world of drug dealers and urban decay will strike some viewers as a depressing subject, which it is. The Wire is deliberately dense, dark and difficult to watch. Storylines take whole series to unravel, characters move in and out of focus – or are killed off without warning – as the labyrinthine plots develop, and some of the characters use street slang so impenetrable viewers are often forced to turn on the subtitles. David Simon, despairing of and despising most mainstream US television dramas, wants to force viewers of The Wire to concentrate and work hard for the show's rewards, just as they would when reading a challenging book.

In a sense, The Wire's aims are literary. "Our models are the big Russian novels," says Simon, "and also writers like Balzac. We're trying to do with modern-day Baltimore what Balzac did with Paris, or Dickens with London." This isn't quite the boast it sounds; The Wire's contributing writers include several novelists, including Simon himself and the acclaimed crime writers Dennis Lehane and George Pelecanos. "The show is structured like a visual novel," says Simon, "and these writers understand the complexity of theme." By making the show "difficult", Simon hopes to wean them off the pat plots and formulaic characterisation of most TV drama, and give them something to chew on instead.

One reason The Wire managed to break the mould is the creative licence Simon has been granted by the show's creators, HBO, the network also responsible Band of Brothers and the drama with which The Wire is most frequently compared, The Sopranos. HBO is paid for by subscription, which means it is less beholden to advertisers or obsessed with winning huge prime-time viewing figures for each and every show it makes. In 2005, HBO almost cancelled The Wire because its modest viewing figures couldn't justify the $50 million it costs to make each series. The show was saved after Simon pitched the storylines for series four and five to Chris Albrecht, an HBO executive. Albrecht was so taken with Simon's script ideas that he signed HBO up for two further series, even though they were unlikely to attract many new subscribers. It is hard to imagine an executive at any other US network putting a compelling plot before profit.

The Wire is even a pioneer in the way it is watched. Thanks to its complexity, many viewers prefer to download episodes or buy each series on DVD so that they can watch it undisturbed or several episodes at a time. Tellingly, all five series remain in the top 40 DVD sales charts on Amazon.co.uk, even though the first series has been available for seven years. The Wire is an archetypal slow-burning, word-of-mouth success.

Yesterday the final episode of the medical drama ER was broadcast in America. Over the course of its 15-year run, ER won a record 122 Emmy nominations and, at its peak, attracted more than 32 million viewers. Some commentators say it permanently altered the landscape of television drama.

By contrast, The Wire has never won an Emmy and often appears to have been watched by more enthusiastic TV critics than viewers. However, if the slowly mounting DVD and download sales are to be trusted, it is The Wire, not ER, that will be credited with changing the face of television. Perhaps now it is finally being aired on a terrestrial channel, The Wire will be savoured by more than an appreciative few.

* The Wire is currently showing every night on BBC Two at 11.20pm
TelegraphHigh praise, indeed.

For those who don't know BBC Two is one of the government run television stations. Interesting that they picked it up rather than one of the independents.

 
The Wire: arguably the greatest television programme ever made

No other series in history has attracted such critical praise, not least from the kind of high-minded cultural arbiters who would usually only watch a US crime drama with a peg on their nose. According to these critics, The Wire isn't merely the best thing on TV; it merits comparison with the works of Dickens and Dostoevsky. As the entertainment industry magazine Variety observed, "When television history is written, little else will rival The Wire, a series of such ambition that it is, perhaps inevitably, savoured only by the appreciative few."

Until very recently, this was true: The Wire was minority pursuit, an "unmissable" TV show that most viewers on both sides of the Atlantic had managed to miss. On HBO, the US cable network which produced and first broadcast five series of The Wire between 2002 and 2008, it attracted a zealous but relatively small following of around 4 million viewers an episode. In the UK, fans of The Wire were even thinner on the ground. When the fifth and final season reached its climax last year on the digital channel FX fewer than 70,000 viewers tuned in.

Last Monday, however, the appreciative few became the appreciative many as the BBC aired The Wire's very first episode, introducing the drama to a mainstream terrestrial audience for the first time. BBC2 is now showing all 60 episodes nightly, Monday to Friday. The drama made further headlines this week when the British actor Dominic West, one of the show's stars, criticised the BBC for drowning its schedules with costume dramas and failing to make any "high end contemporary stuff" to rival The Wire.

Regardless of whether you agree with West's sideswipe at the bonnets and britches brigade, he has a point about the "contemporary stuff". The Wire is a TV programme like no other. Its central character isn't a cop or a criminal but a city: the faded industrial port of Baltimore, Maryland. Over the course of 60 episodes and multiple storylines, The Wire portrays Baltimore – and by extension urban America as a whole – through the eyes of dozens of characters. Each series focuses on a different facet of the city, including the drug-ravaged housing projects, down-at-heel docks, crumbling public schools and corrupt political administration. Regardless of whether its characters are running drugs or running for office, The Wire refuses to make black-and-white judgements about them. Its prevailing moral universe is grey.

Much of The Wire's power derives from its authenticity. "All the things that have been depicted in The Wire over the past five years – the crime, the corruption – actually happened in Baltimore," says David Simon, one of the show's creators. "The storylines were stolen from real life." Simon wrote from experience: he is a former journalist who spent years working as a crime reporter on The Baltimore Sun. The series' co-creator, Ed Burns, is a former Baltimore homicide detective.

In fact, The Wire is so unflinching in its portrayal of the city and its problems that Sheila Dixon, the Mayor of Baltimore, has publicly criticised it for being "overly negative". (Incidentally, Dixon was indicted in January of this year for charges that included theft and misconduct in office.) While in 2005, during a trial in New York, members of a drugs gang said that they had been studying episodes of The Wire in order to learn about the latest police surveillance techniques, such was the show's realism.

Baltimore's fallen world of drug dealers and urban decay will strike some viewers as a depressing subject, which it is. The Wire is deliberately dense, dark and difficult to watch. Storylines take whole series to unravel, characters move in and out of focus – or are killed off without warning – as the labyrinthine plots develop, and some of the characters use street slang so impenetrable viewers are often forced to turn on the subtitles. David Simon, despairing of and despising most mainstream US television dramas, wants to force viewers of The Wire to concentrate and work hard for the show's rewards, just as they would when reading a challenging book.

In a sense, The Wire's aims are literary. "Our models are the big Russian novels," says Simon, "and also writers like Balzac. We're trying to do with modern-day Baltimore what Balzac did with Paris, or Dickens with London." This isn't quite the boast it sounds; The Wire's contributing writers include several novelists, including Simon himself and the acclaimed crime writers Dennis Lehane and George Pelecanos. "The show is structured like a visual novel," says Simon, "and these writers understand the complexity of theme." By making the show "difficult", Simon hopes to wean them off the pat plots and formulaic characterisation of most TV drama, and give them something to chew on instead.

One reason The Wire managed to break the mould is the creative licence Simon has been granted by the show's creators, HBO, the network also responsible Band of Brothers and the drama with which The Wire is most frequently compared, The Sopranos. HBO is paid for by subscription, which means it is less beholden to advertisers or obsessed with winning huge prime-time viewing figures for each and every show it makes. In 2005, HBO almost cancelled The Wire because its modest viewing figures couldn't justify the $50 million it costs to make each series. The show was saved after Simon pitched the storylines for series four and five to Chris Albrecht, an HBO executive. Albrecht was so taken with Simon's script ideas that he signed HBO up for two further series, even though they were unlikely to attract many new subscribers. It is hard to imagine an executive at any other US network putting a compelling plot before profit.

The Wire is even a pioneer in the way it is watched. Thanks to its complexity, many viewers prefer to download episodes or buy each series on DVD so that they can watch it undisturbed or several episodes at a time. Tellingly, all five series remain in the top 40 DVD sales charts on Amazon.co.uk, even though the first series has been available for seven years. The Wire is an archetypal slow-burning, word-of-mouth success.

Yesterday the final episode of the medical drama ER was broadcast in America. Over the course of its 15-year run, ER won a record 122 Emmy nominations and, at its peak, attracted more than 32 million viewers. Some commentators say it permanently altered the landscape of television drama.

By contrast, The Wire has never won an Emmy and often appears to have been watched by more enthusiastic TV critics than viewers. However, if the slowly mounting DVD and download sales are to be trusted, it is The Wire, not ER, that will be credited with changing the face of television. Perhaps now it is finally being aired on a terrestrial channel, The Wire will be savoured by more than an appreciative few.

* The Wire is currently showing every night on BBC Two at 11.20pm
TelegraphHigh praise, indeed.

For those who don't know BBC Two is one of the government run television stations. Interesting that they picked it up rather than one of the independents.
Does BBC edit content, or will it be just the straight HBO version?
 
British TV normally won't edit out words that are frowned upon in the US. However, if you hear Snoop say 'bloody' they might bleep that.

 
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Boston.com has the "top 20 cop/fire shows".The wire is no where to be found.Shame.
No love for The Wire during award ceremonies like Golden Globes either. I don't understand why the critics constantly ignore this show. The Wire and Pete Rose have a lot in common. The only difference was Rose getting proper shine during his playing days.
 

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