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Omars death was fitting because if you were paying attention to the series he always let his guard down around kids.... that was his main weakness.
And, to top it off, the same kid that years earlier was running around the street pretending to be Omar after a big shootout in his neighborhood.
Yeah, it wasn't just some random kid. Kenard was in the game 100%. He was dealing for Michael and Marlo. His crew was held up at gunpoint by Omar. The fitting thing is that just as Omar ignored always kind of ignored Kenard, so did the audience. We never saw him for the threat he was. It was just as shocking to Omar that this kid killed him as it was for the audience.
IIRC, their crew got held up by Omar when he was still limping around with crutches, and Kenard made a comment about how Omar didn't look like much. That planted the seed in Kenard for him to take out Omar. Basically everyone in the neighborhood feared Omar except for this little kid.
Yep, being young was a good thing for him. Everyone older in the crew had encountered Omar and seen his wrath. The kid had heard the stories, but his first encounter was less than impressive. He just saw a hobbled skinny bum looking old man. Also, Kenard is great, but the most underrated kid on the show was Donut the car thief.
 
Goodnight moon

Goodnight stars

Goodnight fiends

Goodnight hoppers

Goodnight hustlers

Goodnight scammers

Goodnight to everybody, goodnight one and all

 
5 epsiodes left - I'll go back and read everything after - trying to avoid any spoilers but wanted to just wanted to post.

Lester talking with McNulty about the serial killer angle and Bunks face had me :lmao:

 
Omars death was fitting because if you were paying attention to the series he always let his guard down around kids.... that was his main weakness.
And, to top it off, the same kid that years earlier was running around the street pretending to be Omar after a big shootout in his neighborhood.
Yeah, it wasn't just some random kid. Kenard was in the game 100%. He was dealing for Michael and Marlo. His crew was held up at gunpoint by Omar. The fitting thing is that just as Omar ignored always kind of ignored Kenard, so did the audience. We never saw him for the threat he was. It was just as shocking to Omar that this kid killed him as it was for the audience.
IIRC, their crew got held up by Omar when he was still limping around with crutches, and Kenard made a comment about how Omar didn't look like much. That planted the seed in Kenard for him to take out Omar. Basically everyone in the neighborhood feared Omar except for this little kid.
Yep. And Kenard also stole from Namond. And as others have said, was the one playing Omar after the shootout. Marlo didn't BECOME ruthless, right?
 
Does anyone remember how and when Marlo was introduced? Pretty genius how they slipped him in and he didn't seem like an important character, and as the show progresses he obviuosly becomes one of the major players.

 
Just watched them again...

Updated Rankings...

Season 4

Season 3

Season 1

Season 2

Season 5

Season 2 got much better on the rewatch while the newspaper angle still remained flat to me. As I watched season five I thought maybe they should have gone into the prison systems a little more in depth instead of the media industry. I know they did a little with them in season 2 but it would have been cool to see someone rise to power in the prison system.

As far as characters go I still like Bodie the best. A couple others that are great and don't get mentioned as much are Landsman, Norman, the state's DA, and the Jewish Lawyer.

Also, what happened to McNulty in the end? We know he got the wake but does that mean he is off the force or just that he is done doing police work?

Also, why didn't the third member of their team get punished?

 
Just watched them again...Updated Rankings...Season 4Season 3Season 1Season 2Season 5Season 2 got much better on the rewatch while the newspaper angle still remained flat to me. As I watched season five I thought maybe they should have gone into the prison systems a little more in depth instead of the media industry. I know they did a little with them in season 2 but it would have been cool to see someone rise to power in the prison system.
Id switch 3 & 4, but otherwise, thats probably my ranking. The 2 biggest problems are, as you mention, how do people feel about season 2? I loved it, its just not better than 1, 3, or 4. Next question, is season 5 good enough? Id say so, I thought it kept up the story well enough. The newspaper and McNulty murderer lines hurt it. How they wrap up the last 4 episodes makes Season 5 brilliant.
 
Just watched them again...Updated Rankings...Season 4Season 3Season 1Season 2Season 5Season 2 got much better on the rewatch while the newspaper angle still remained flat to me. As I watched season five I thought maybe they should have gone into the prison systems a little more in depth instead of the media industry. I know they did a little with them in season 2 but it would have been cool to see someone rise to power in the prison system.
Id switch 3 & 4, but otherwise, thats probably my ranking. The 2 biggest problems are, as you mention, how do people feel about season 2? I loved it, its just not better than 1, 3, or 4. Next question, is season 5 good enough? Id say so, I thought it kept up the story well enough. The newspaper and McNulty murderer lines hurt it. How they wrap up the last 4 episodes makes Season 5 brilliant.
Just finished all of them in about 2 months. Now I can read all the thread ...I liked Season 2 a lot but it's tough to rank it above the others. I actually liked the serial killer thing in Season 5. I just wished they wrapped Mcnulty up a little better. Not sure EvilOutsider what you mean by the third guy? The young black guy? I'm just assuming Lester and McNulty said it was all them and the other guy was just following what Lester told him to do pertinent to the case.My rankings would probably beSeason 3Season 4Season 1Season 2Season 5but I liked them all, and if I came back to this I might rerank these.
 
Also, what happened to McNulty in the end? We know he got the wake but does that mean he is off the force or just that he is done doing police work?Also, why didn't the third member of their team get punished?
I took it as meaning that McNulty either quit ahead of being fired or was fired. Either way, he wasn't a cop anymore. They made it clear that he was going down at some point. Maybe he was just put onto crap duty but that is pretty much the same thing.I think you're referring to Sydnor? All the blame was placed on McNulty and Freamon so nothing happened to him. It showed him talking to the judge at the end, following in the footsteps of McNulty/Freamon.
 
5 epsiodes left - I'll go back and read everything after - trying to avoid any spoilers but wanted to just wanted to post.

Lester talking with McNulty about the serial killer angle and Bunks face had me :lmao:
like a lot of the characters, bunk just seemed to grow throughout the series. the role seemed to tailored for him somehow. my wife and i went to see a broadway play in NYC pretty much because of our shared affection for wendell pierce. he rules.
 
Watching "The Corner" now and it is amazing how many actors appeared in both this and "The Wire". Too many to name. From Prop Joe, Sydnor, all the way down to the white lady school principal with glasses. It is funny to see what they looked like when they were young.

Some of the Wire story line comes directly from the corner too, though as has been said The Wire was more about story development.

 
The Wire's Snoop Pearson will plead guilty to drug charges

As of press time, David Simon still has yet to find a way to transform himself into a dozen African-American men and women, but fortunately for The Wire's Felicia "Snoop" Pearson, she won't need some sort of magical, 12 Angry Simons jury. The actress will plead guilty today to her recent charges of conspiracy to distribute heroin, accepting a misdemeanor. Her attorney acknowledged that Pearson, who did not have a significant role in the Baltimore network accused of trafficking heroin and marijuana from New York and Los Angeles, nevertheless knew some of its alleged participants from her teenage years, and says that she's taking the guilty plea so she can rid herself of this whole mess and get back to pursuing her acting career. He also added, "She learned a valuable lesson about how some loyalties you keep and others drag you down"—which, didn't she already learn that just from watching The Wire?
 
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Why would you spend so much on it? eBay regularly has new sets under $50 with free shipping.
There are a lot of good looking fakes on eBay.
I purchased from eBay and it was the same version as Amazon. It is pretty simple, just look at the seller ratings and don't buy from anyone from Hong Kong and pay attention to the UPC.
 
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Some stuff from the book

Bubbles led to more than 500 arrest for the FBI, Baltimore, NYPD, or other agencies. That seems sooo high to me. He passed away and Simon had to pull some strings to get an obit in the paper for him.

Little Melvin Williams is a drug dealer that just in the little bit they talk about in the book, is really an interesting guy.

Google him if you'd like

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=l...liams+baltimore

The actor that plays Omar was a dancer. Frank Sobotka actor was 39 and needed extensive makeup to look older.

Also, at the HBO boards David Simon used to reply to Qs.

http://boards.hbo.com/thread.jspa?threadID...25&start=45
Melvin Williams is who they modeled Avons character after. He is actually on the show as the deacon working with Bunny.
:thumbup: Yeah - I remember that from "The Game"
The show American Gangster on Bio has his story. Look for it, pretty interesting stuff. Not Chambers Brothers interesting, but getting framed by the cops is a pretty big story. Plus he stopped a race riot in a major city by just saying stop.
 
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Some stuff from the book

Bubbles led to more than 500 arrest for the FBI, Baltimore, NYPD, or other agencies. That seems sooo high to me. He passed away and Simon had to pull some strings to get an obit in the paper for him.

Little Melvin Williams is a drug dealer that just in the little bit they talk about in the book, is really an interesting guy.

Google him if you'd like

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=l...liams+baltimore

The actor that plays Omar was a dancer. Frank Sobotka actor was 39 and needed extensive makeup to look older.

Also, at the HBO boards David Simon used to reply to Qs.

http://boards.hbo.com/thread.jspa?threadID...25&start=45
Melvin Williams is who they modeled Avons character after. He is actually on the show as the deacon working with Bunny.
:thumbup: Yeah - I remember that from "The Game"
The show American Gangster on Bio has his story. Look for it, pretty interesting stuff. Not Chambers Brothers interesting, but getting framed by the cops is a pretty big story. Plus he stopped a race riot in a major city by just saying stop.
So he actually invented the pager show used in the show and used it in the 80s, and one of his Lieutenants was named Nathan Barksdale.
 
Breaking Bad >>>>> The WireI'm 96% sure of it.
I've only seen Season 1 and one episode of Season 2 of Breaking Bad so far, but this premise is preposterous. Breaking Bad is pretty damn good, but the characters are not as compelling to me so far nor does it seem very realistic.
 
Breaking Bad >>>>> The WireI'm 96% sure of it.
I've only seen Season 1 and one episode of Season 2 of Breaking Bad so far, but this premise is preposterous. Breaking Bad is pretty damn good, but the characters are not as compelling to me so far nor does it seem very realistic.
:goodposting: I think I have 3 episodes left in season 4 and have yet to find a character I like.
 
I'm midway through season 2 of Breaking Bad. It's good, for sure. But comparing it to The Wire? C'mon...

 
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I'm midway through season 2 of Breaking Bad. It's good, for sure. But comparing it to The Wire? C'mon...
it gets better.both are great shows and probably two of the best series ever put on television.I happen to prefer The Wire for several reasons, but can see why others would vote the other way.
 
I'm midway through season 2 of Breaking Bad. It's good, for sure. But comparing it to The Wire? C'mon...
it gets better.both are great shows and probably two of the best series ever put on television.I happen to prefer The Wire for several reasons, but can see why others would vote the other way.
I'm further a long in Season 2 now and I just feel like the show is kind of predictable or cheesy or unrealistic or something. I can't quite put my finger on it. Maybe it's a combination of things. I like it, but I am not getting any greatness out of it. I mean, Dexter also has some predictability/unrealistic flaws, but when I am done with an episode of Dexter I am ready to watch the next one right away. With Breaking Bad, I do not have the urge. The Wire, on the other hand, when I re-watched the DVDs with people I could crush a season in 1-2 days.IMO The Wire is in its own league right now. Game of Thrones, while a totally different genre, is the only thing close to as compelling with characters/unpredictability and maybe Boardwalk Empire.
 
I'm midway through season 2 of Breaking Bad. It's good, for sure. But comparing it to The Wire? C'mon...
it gets better.both are great shows and probably two of the best series ever put on television.I happen to prefer The Wire for several reasons, but can see why others would vote the other way.
I'm further a long in Season 2 now and I just feel like the show is kind of predictable or cheesy or unrealistic or something. I can't quite put my finger on it. Maybe it's a combination of things. I like it, but I am not getting any greatness out of it. I mean, Dexter also has some predictability/unrealistic flaws, but when I am done with an episode of Dexter I am ready to watch the next one right away. With Breaking Bad, I do not have the urge. The Wire, on the other hand, when I re-watched the DVDs with people I could crush a season in 1-2 days.IMO The Wire is in its own league right now. Game of Thrones, while a totally different genre, is the only thing close to as compelling with characters/unpredictability and maybe Boardwalk Empire.
I think that even though people love to compare The Wire and Breaking Bad, they are great for completely different reasons. The Wire's scope is totally different, the cast is enormous and the narrative shifts every couple minutes and the whole thing is mostly intended to make a broader commentary on society. Breaking Bad is a far more focused narrative and character study. Its greatness comes from two pretty simple things: (1) very clever writing- not the best, but pretty good; and more importantly (2) IMO the single greatest acting performance in the history of TV by far. And IMO, as great as Cranston is in the first season and a half, he gets so much better after that as the role takes on new dimensions.Watching a guy knock if out of the park like that is really cool, but it's not necessarily an experience you want to repeat many times in a short time frame. I think it's kind of exhausting actually, which is why I also never really had the urge to fire through a bunch of episodes at once when I started watching it last year, same as your experience apparently.I prefer The Wire too- I'm one of the people who think it's easily the greatest show ever- but I'm a fan of both.
 
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Breaking Bad is great, but is not as good as The Wire. It's a great exercise in tension and the plot-lines are well thought and detailed, but the Wire is a whole other level for a host of reasons, one of them being it's connection with reality. BB requires some suspension of disbelief that the Wire never required. Plus the Wire found a way to employ the Pogues to great effect. It's a slam dunk.

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BB requires some suspension of disbelief that the Wire never required.
Until season five with the fictional serial killer stuff.But yeah, The Wire had a very real feel to it. With Breaking Bad, I was often thinking, "I wonder if that's how it happens in real life..." With The Wire, I was generally thinking, "Oh, so that's how it happens in real life!" As if I were learning from a documentary.

I can't say for sure whether The Wire really was as realistic as it appeared since I have no experience with drug gangs. But it had quite an authoritative air of authenticity to it.

 
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BB requires some suspension of disbelief that the Wire never required.
Until season five with the fictional serial killer stuff.But yeah, The Wire had a very real feel to it. With Breaking Bad, I was often thinking, "I wonder if that's how it happens in real life..." With The Wire, I was generally thinking, "Oh, so that's how it happens in real life!" As if I were learning from a documentary.

I can't say for sure whether The Wire really was as realistic as it appeared since I have no experience with drug gangs. But it had quite an authoritative air of authenticity to it.
It was, but the meth trade is crazy enough that nothing I've seen in BB required too much either.
 
I'm midway through season 2 of Breaking Bad. It's good, for sure. But comparing it to The Wire? C'mon...
it gets better.both are great shows and probably two of the best series ever put on television.I happen to prefer The Wire for several reasons, but can see why others would vote the other way.
I'm further a long in Season 2 now and I just feel like the show is kind of predictable or cheesy or unrealistic or something. I can't quite put my finger on it. Maybe it's a combination of things. I like it, but I am not getting any greatness out of it. I mean, Dexter also has some predictability/unrealistic flaws, but when I am done with an episode of Dexter I am ready to watch the next one right away. With Breaking Bad, I do not have the urge. The Wire, on the other hand, when I re-watched the DVDs with people I could crush a season in 1-2 days.IMO The Wire is in its own league right now. Game of Thrones, while a totally different genre, is the only thing close to as compelling with characters/unpredictability and maybe Boardwalk Empire.
Are you me? I like Breaking Bad as well, but I'm midway through Season 2 right now, and the Netflix disc has been sitting on my dresser for ~ 3 weeks. I think I watched all 62 episodes of The Wire in 3 weeks. All 10 episodes of Game of Thrones in 3 days.
 
I'm midway through season 2 of Breaking Bad. It's good, for sure. But comparing it to The Wire? C'mon...
it gets better.both are great shows and probably two of the best series ever put on television.I happen to prefer The Wire for several reasons, but can see why others would vote the other way.
I'm further a long in Season 2 now and I just feel like the show is kind of predictable or cheesy or unrealistic or something. I can't quite put my finger on it. Maybe it's a combination of things. I like it, but I am not getting any greatness out of it. I mean, Dexter also has some predictability/unrealistic flaws, but when I am done with an episode of Dexter I am ready to watch the next one right away. With Breaking Bad, I do not have the urge. The Wire, on the other hand, when I re-watched the DVDs with people I could crush a season in 1-2 days.IMO The Wire is in its own league right now. Game of Thrones, while a totally different genre, is the only thing close to as compelling with characters/unpredictability and maybe Boardwalk Empire.
Are you me? I like Breaking Bad as well, but I'm midway through Season 2 right now, and the Netflix disc has been sitting on my dresser for ~ 3 weeks. I think I watched all 62 episodes of The Wire in 3 weeks. All 10 episodes of Game of Thrones in 3 days.
Stick with it, it takes off in a big way.
 
about 3 episodes into season 5 and its been by far one of my favorite shows ever. Am I the only one that did not realize Snoops was a girl for almost an entire season?

 
about 3 episodes into season 5 and its been by far one of my favorite shows ever. Am I the only one that did not realize Snoops was a girl for almost an entire season?
Haha. Nope. Me and the gf argued about that for a long time. Have you read about the actress that played Snoop? Not much acting going on.
 
about 3 episodes into season 5 and its been by far one of my favorite shows ever. Am I the only one that did not realize Snoops was a girl for almost an entire season?
Haha. Nope. Me and the gf argued about that for a long time. Have you read about the actress that played Snoop? Not much acting going on.
Yeah I looked her up the other night, was just arrested (again) this summer. I wonder if she talks like that for real. I go back to the scene where she bought the nail gun and there is no way you could convince me that was a girl in that scene.
 

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