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Things Canada does better than the US of A (1 Viewer)

Canadian health care sucks, it is one of the worst fallacies that we perpetuate as being so amazing about Canada. 

They are all basically government employees. Picture your experience at the DMV. Now imagine that is your health care experience. 

But hey....IT IS FREE!
That maybe your experience but my experience with health care in canada has been absolutely wonderful.  Emergency kind of stinks but as long as you don't live in a rural area dr's are plentiful, access if phenomenal and the care is second to none.

 
RedmondLonghorn said:
Good stuff. I didn't realize the difference in conditioning time, but I follow the business aspects completely.

I like Tiger a lot. I don't believe I have ever had Saigon, but will keep my eye out for it.

I also really like most Bavarian Lagers I have had. I used to be able to find Paulaner Lager at the beer store when I lived in Chicago, but in the PNW the only Paulaners I see regularly are Hefeweizen (GTFO with that crap), Salvatore (decent), and maybe a Dopplebock (solid).

Though it isn't high end, I also like Modelo Especial. It is decidedly a macro brew, but is a much better equivalent of a German Lager than any large scale beer brewed in the US.

I also rather liked Polar, but Venezuela.
Not sure what part of the PNW you live in, but when I was in Portland a few years ago I thought they had quite a few European influenced microbrew options. I enjoyed my beer consumption of quite a few varities anyway. :shrug:

 
rockaction said:
Not a bad list. I'll add legalized weed, hookers, and strip clubs and maybe even the best of the best of punk-ish rock right now with ####ed Up! and Japandroids.
Weed isn't legalized here..yet. Trudeau's goal is to have it legalized by July 1 (Canada's birthday) 2018.

 
Not sure what part of the PNW you live in, but when I was in Portland a few years ago I thought they had quite a few European influenced microbrew options. I enjoyed my beer consumption of quite a few varities anyway. :shrug:
I am in the Seattle area. They definitely exist, because I have had some really good ones. They are just harder to find. The beer aisles at the super markets here are gargantuan, but it seems like the microbrew sections are at least 50% IPAs. And I can't tell you how many times I have been to a restaurant with some exotic microbrews in their rotating tap selections, but when I ask if I can get a lager or a pilsner, the only option is Bud Light or Heineken.

 
I am in the Seattle area. They definitely exist, because I have had some really good ones. They are just harder to find. The beer aisles at the super markets here are gargantuan, but it seems like the microbrew sections are at least 50% IPAs. And I can't tell you how many times I have been to a restaurant with some exotic microbrews in their rotating tap selections, but when I ask if I can get a lager or a pilsner, the only option is Bud Light or Heineken.
This is a general issue I think. I spoke to a bar owner in Copenhagen (all microbrew on tap) around X-mas who complained bitterly about all breweries only wanting to sell him IPA's

 
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I am in the Seattle area. They definitely exist, because I have had some really good ones. They are just harder to find. The beer aisles at the super markets here are gargantuan, but it seems like the microbrew sections are at least 50% IPAs. And I can't tell you how many times I have been to a restaurant with some exotic microbrews in their rotating tap selections, but when I ask if I can get a lager or a pilsner, the only option is Bud Light or Heineken.
I think in both cases they are trying to appeal to the largest portion of the market. Among the hipster beer snobs it is all about the IPAs right now here as well. If I ask for a lager, they tell me I need to refine my palate and try this IPA instead.

The Bud Light, Heineken, etc. thing is all about advertising and/or conspicuous consumption. If somebody wants to be seen as not the standard beer drinker,their go to beers are Heineken, Stella, Guinness. Corona's entire marketing campaign is drink our (crappy) beer and pretend you are on the beach in Mexico. 

 
RedmondLonghorn said:
The hipster beer snob thing about trying to make IPAs as hoppy and bitter as possible is so ####ing stupid. I pretended to like that kind of beer when I was an a$$hole in my early 20s too...25 years ago. 

Making a really good and balanced lager is harder than making some ####ty trendy beer as bitter as possible. I have had some really good US microbrew lagers in restaurants, but my local grocery store has a beer aisle that is 100 feet long, 75% of which is various microbrews, and there isn't a single US microbrew lager in it. But there are dozens and dozens of IPAs.

I'll take a good German lager or Tiger beer over any of that crap. 
So what you're saying is that you don't know much about how far US beer has advanced in the past 25 years. It's good that you can admit your ignorance. :thumbup:  

 
Northern Voice said:
There's great beer from San Diego. Saying it's better than any other country's in the world is a ridiculous, asinine, (trolling) statement.
Not a trolling statement. I have been to England, Belgium, Germany, and other European countries and drank plenty of their beer. I'm not saying they don't have good beer, but it isn't as good as San Diego beer is today. :shrug:  

 
So what you're saying is that you don't know much about how far US beer has advanced in the past 25 years. It's good that you can admit your ignorance. :thumbup:  


Not a trolling statement. I have been to England, Belgium, Germany, and other European countries and drank plenty of their beer. I'm not saying they don't have good beer, but it isn't as good as San Diego beer is today. :shrug:  
No, you're trolling and the one who's ignorant.  Stop mistaking your opinion for fact.

 
No, you're trolling and the one who's ignorant.  Stop mistaking your opinion for fact.
Lighten up, Francis.

No mistakes here. It should be quite obvious that I am posting my opinions in here, just like everyone else. It's fine if you and others disagree. And I have made zero trolling posts in this thread.

:suds:  

 
I think in both cases they are trying to appeal to the largest portion of the market. Among the hipster beer snobs it is all about the IPAs right now here as well. If I ask for a lager, they tell me I need to refine my palate and try this IPA instead.

The Bud Light, Heineken, etc. thing is all about advertising and/or conspicuous consumption. If somebody wants to be seen as not the standard beer drinker,their go to beers are Heineken, Stella, Guinness. Corona's entire marketing campaign is drink our (crappy) beer and pretend you are on the beach in Mexico. 
and yet every summer I usually pick up some Corona's

 
I didn't read this whole thread, but for me it's servers in Canada bringing the credit card reader table side to settle up.  You have no idea here in the states what the hell your server is doing out of sight.  

Also, seemed like most of the female staff I encountered in BC and Alberta looked like they stepped out of a Robert Palmer video.  I like that.

 
That maybe your experience but my experience with health care in canada has been absolutely wonderful.  Emergency kind of stinks but as long as you don't live in a rural area dr's are plentiful, access if phenomenal and the care is second to none.
Our health care system is only nice because it's free.  Twice I've sat in emergency for 2-3 hours before deciding to leave.  You really have to be your own advocate for health care in Canada.  And trying to get information out of anyone is like pulling teeth.

 
Lighten up, Francis.

No mistakes here. It should be quite obvious that I am posting my opinions in here, just like everyone else. It's fine if you and others disagree. And I have made zero trolling posts in this thread.

:suds:  
Honest question, do you like anything other than IPA's? Only way you could come close to justifying that statement. 

 
Our health care system is only nice because it's free.  Twice I've sat in emergency for 2-3 hours before deciding to leave.  You really have to be your own advocate for health care in Canada.  And trying to get information out of anyone is like pulling teeth.
Emergency room is based on who needs urgent care the most and the fact you could just choose to leave makes believe you weren't the most urgent. Canada's Healthcare system works fine.

 
I didn't read this whole thread, but for me it's servers in Canada bringing the credit card reader table side to settle up.  You have no idea here in the states what the hell your server is doing out of sight.  

Also, seemed like most of the female staff I encountered in BC and Alberta looked like they stepped out of a Robert Palmer video.  I like that.
I assumed this was common practise everywhere. 

Edit to add re the waitresses; you were at a Moxies, Right?

 
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Emergency room is based on who needs urgent care the most and the fact you could just choose to leave makes believe you weren't the most urgent. Canada's Healthcare system works fine.
Exactly. It is a triage system, so it doesn't matter how long you have been there. What matters is how urgently you need care. 

To Chaz McNulty,

If you went to an emergency room and left without being treated, you probably didn't need to be there. You could have gone to a walk in clinic. 

 
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I am not talking about emergency or GP doctors. I am talking about hospital care, specialists, waiting time for tests etc. 

All of the bad experiences I am aware of are Eastern Ontario so probably it is not the same coast to coast. 

The best way I can describe it is...apathy. Like, "we are doing the best we can, and have no incentive or motivation to do more"

When my father in law almost died in Orlando he was in the hospital a week. 

Night and day experiences. More professional, more caring, and the hospital went out of its way to give a good experience.  

They have incentive, they want your business. In Eastern Ontario, if you aren't happy with the service they act like they don't care, and your only option is to go to another place that treats you the same. 

 
I am not talking about emergency or GP doctors. I am talking about hospital care, specialists, waiting time for tests etc. 

All of the bad experiences I am aware of are Eastern Ontario so probably it is not the same coast to coast. 

The best way I can describe it is...apathy. Like, "we are doing the best we can, and have no incentive or motivation to do more"

When my father in law almost died in Orlando he was in the hospital a week. 

Night and day experiences. More professional, more caring, and the hospital went out of its way to give a good experience.  

They have incentive, they want your business. In Eastern Ontario, if you aren't happy with the service they act like they don't care, and your only option is to go to another place that treats you the same. 
Did you Father in Law get a bill when he checked out of the hospital in Orlando?

 
Our health care system is only nice because it's free.  Twice I've sat in emergency for 2-3 hours before deciding to leave.  You really have to be your own advocate for health care in Canada.  And trying to get information out of anyone is like pulling teeth.
Well as far I have read nobody has solved the emergency room problem.  It's just as bad here in the US.  You can't really get around the fact that people line up in emerg for a cold and overburden it.  I'm not sure what the answer is.

 
I am not talking about emergency or GP doctors. I am talking about hospital care, specialists, waiting time for tests etc. 

All of the bad experiences I am aware of are Eastern Ontario so probably it is not the same coast to coast. 

The best way I can describe it is...apathy. Like, "we are doing the best we can, and have no incentive or motivation to do more"

When my father in law almost died in Orlando he was in the hospital a week. 

Night and day experiences. More professional, more caring, and the hospital went out of its way to give a good experience.  

They have incentive, they want your business. In Eastern Ontario, if you aren't happy with the service they act like they don't care, and your only option is to go to another place that treats you the same. 
Funny my brother got cancer in peterborough ontario and we had such great service and timing.  The system couldn't have reacted more switfly and more kindly.  We were super impressed.

 
Honest question, do you like anything other than IPA's? Only way you could come close to justifying that statement. 
I love IPAs, but I also like most types of beer. Right now I have Bell's Oberon (wheat ale) and Pacifico (lager) in my refrigerator along with a couple types of IPA.

:banned:  

 
Funny my brother got cancer in peterborough ontario and we had such great service and timing.  The system couldn't have reacted more switfly and more kindly.  We were super impressed.
I live in Peterborough and I haven't had any issues with health care.  I've been lucky to not need to use the emergency room though.

 
I live in Peterborough and I haven't had any issues with health care.  I've been lucky to not need to use the emergency room though.
We love peterborough.  We never would have moved but my wife couldn't find work there as a teacher.  We moved west and then to the USA.  We still miss it though and would go back again

 
So if I like IPAs I am a beer snob? :rolleyes:  
No but if you've ever been on ratebeer/untappd/beeradvocate you'll know that IPA's generally get higher ratings. A perfect German lager tends not to get as high of a rating as a middling IPA because of the IPA bias of many people who use those sites. 

 

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