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Some more interesting stuff on Randle...maybe more of a Sullinger type?

Situational Statistics: the 2014 Power Forward Crop
June 21, 2014
Julius Randle's situational statistics are probably a little bit different than most would expect. While 20.9% of his offense coming from post-ups is far from an insignificant amount, it ranks as only average in this group, as does the 0.79 points per possession he generated in these instances. While a little bit of improvement in Kentucky's floor spacing could have opened up the paint a little bit more for Randle and helped improve this number some, further refinement of his skills and becoming more comfortable using his right hand will be needed in the future as well. The 39.3% he shot on post-up opportunities was well below average among power forwards we looked at, although the overall efficiency was buoyed by his ability to draw contact and get to the line, as he drew shooting fouls on 26.2% of his post-up possessions, one of the better rates among this group.

Where Randle was most dominant was on the offensive glass. The 2.4 possessions per game Randle generated off of put back attempts was the second best in this group among players that we currently project to be drafted, only slightly behindKhem Birch's 2.7 possessions per game, and the 1.21 points per possession Randle scored off of these created opportunities was the third best in the group. Randle's high volume and efficiency in put back situations resulted in 114 points for the Wildcats last season, one of the top marks in the entire country among all players, prospect or not.

Another area where Randle showed potential was as an isolation threat, as the only collegiate prospect among this group who used more possessions per game in isolation situations than Randle wasDwight Powell. While his efficiency wasn't all that great at 0.76 points per possession -- hurt somewhat by turnovers, predictability due to an unrefined right hand, and by not being much of a threat shooting away from the basket -- should Randle improve in any or all of these areas, he will have a quickness advantage against most of his defenders at the next level, and could really expand this part of his game.

Jump shooting is another area of his game that stands out, as he shot only 17.3% on jump shots logged by Synergy, with the 0.40 points per possession he scored on those attempts being the lowest mark in this power forward class. He didn't attempt very many at only 1.3 shots per game, but him being a complete lack of a threat outside of the paint is something that is currently holding his game back. His free throw shooting (70.6% on 289 attempts) gives some optimism for the future, but that didn't translate in live ball situations last year at Kentucky.

From DraftExpress.comhttp://www.draftexpress.com/#ixzz3f8BZa7gK
http://www.draftexpress.com


 
It feels so wrong, but I don't hate what the Kings did this offseason. A team of:

WCS/Koufos

Cousins

Gay

McLemore

Rondo

Bench:

Belinelli

Collison

Casspi

Just doesn't seem horrible. :shrug:
Yeah, Vlade rebounded well. It all hinges on the Cousins/Karl situation, of course. But in an imaginary world where that gets resolved, this team should push .500 and give the fans something to root for and justify new arena prices. The pick situation doesn't even look that bad: unless they implode, they'll send a late lottery pick to the Bulls this year, negating one of the Sixers' pick swaps. In 2017 the Sixers will have the right to swap but there's very little reason to believe that will happen unless the Kings somehow win the lottery (and even then, the Kings will probably be taking back a high pick so all is not lost). Then in 2018 the Kings either send a mid first to the Sixers, or nothing (if the Kings suck really bad).So on paper it's the best roster the team has had since 2006. More likely is that the Karl/Cousins situation is resolved poorly and they implode again next year, but that was really outside Vlade's control (thanks Petey D and Vivek!).
I'm concerned about Rondo. He's lost a lot of his explosiveness and his poor shooting has managed to regress. He's also proven to be a time bomb. Between Rondo and the Karl/Cousins situation, the chance of a trainwreck seems too high. I'm also not convinced about their defense or outside shooting. (Also Marco should help the latter some.)
Oh, the chance of a train wreck is exceptionally high. They will play Rondo at backup PG if they know what's good for them (unlikely) - Collison is much, much better at this point.

 
I don't see the Lakers arrow as up yet. We have no idea how good Randle or Russel will be (particularly Randle, people just assume he's already good for some reason. :shrug: )

After this year they likely lose Kobe and Hibbert, who both kind of suck now anyways, and likely won't have a lottery pick to show for it. I don't get the excitement.

 
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I don't see the Lakers arrow as up yet. We have no idea how good Randle or Russel will be (particularly Randle, people just assume he's already good for some reason. :shrug: )

After this year they likely lose Kobe and Hibbert, who both kind of suck now anyways, and likely won't have a lottery pick to show for it. I don't get the excitement.
I would be excited for Russell, and I would hope Randle is a competent/useful 4. Clarkson seems like a nice combo-guard/6th man type. Other than that I agree there isn't much to be excited about. They're in wait and hope for a big signing mode. Maybe next year I guess...

 
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I don't see the Lakers arrow as up yet. We have no idea how good Randle or Russel will be (particularly Randle, people just assume he's already good for some reason. :shrug: )

After this year they likely lose Kobe and Hibbert, who both kind of suck now anyways, and likely won't have a lottery pick to show for it. I don't get the excitement.
I would be excited for Russell, and I would hope Randle is a competent/useful 4. Clarkson seems like a nice combo-guard/6th man type. Other than that I agree there isn't much to be excited about. They're in wait and hope for a big signing mode. Maybe next year I guess...
It's not Towns/Wiggins/LaVine, but that Russell/Randle/Clarkson core is one of the better young cores around...I mean think of it this way...how much (if any) worse is that than the Sixers core?

 
I don't see the Lakers arrow as up yet. We have no idea how good Randle or Russel will be (particularly Randle, people just assume he's already good for some reason. :shrug: )

After this year they likely lose Kobe and Hibbert, who both kind of suck now anyways, and likely won't have a lottery pick to show for it. I don't get the excitement.
I would be excited for Russell, and I would hope Randle is a competent/useful 4. Clarkson seems like a nice combo-guard/6th man type. Other than that I agree there isn't much to be excited about. They're in wait and hope for a big signing mode. Maybe next year I guess...
It's not Towns/Wiggins/LaVine, but that Russell/Randle/Clarkson core is one of the better young cores around...I mean think of it this way...how much (if any) worse is that than the Sixers core?
I'd rather have Noel/Okafor/Saric/maybe Embiid than those 3. And it's somewhat beside the point, but Philly has the picks to continue building through the draft, whereas LA owes two possibly valuable picks in the near future.

 
I don't see the Lakers arrow as up yet. We have no idea how good Randle or Russel will be (particularly Randle, people just assume he's already good for some reason. :shrug: )

After this year they likely lose Kobe and Hibbert, who both kind of suck now anyways, and likely won't have a lottery pick to show for it. I don't get the excitement.
I would be excited for Russell, and I would hope Randle is a competent/useful 4. Clarkson seems like a nice combo-guard/6th man type. Other than that I agree there isn't much to be excited about. They're in wait and hope for a big signing mode. Maybe next year I guess...
It's not Towns/Wiggins/LaVine, but that Russell/Randle/Clarkson core is one of the better young cores around...I mean think of it this way...how much (if any) worse is that than the Sixers core?
YOUNG CORES CHAT!

Orl: Payton, Hezonja, Gordon, Tobias

Min: Wiggins, Towns, LaVine, Muhammad, Tyus?

Mil: Parker, Antetokounmpo, MCW, Vaughn

Phi: Noel, Okafor, Embiid, Saric, a billion picks

LAL: Russell, Randle, Clarkson, Kobe's sperm

Who else?

 
I don't see the Lakers arrow as up yet. We have no idea how good Randle or Russel will be (particularly Randle, people just assume he's already good for some reason. :shrug: )

After this year they likely lose Kobe and Hibbert, who both kind of suck now anyways, and likely won't have a lottery pick to show for it. I don't get the excitement.
I would be excited for Russell, and I would hope Randle is a competent/useful 4. Clarkson seems like a nice combo-guard/6th man type. Other than that I agree there isn't much to be excited about. They're in wait and hope for a big signing mode. Maybe next year I guess...
It's not Towns/Wiggins/LaVine, but that Russell/Randle/Clarkson core is one of the better young cores around...I mean think of it this way...how much (if any) worse is that than the Sixers core?
YOUNG CORES CHAT!

Orl: Payton, Hezonja, Gordon, Tobias

Min: Wiggins, Towns, LaVine, Muhammad, Tyus?

Mil: Parker, Antetokounmpo, MCW, Vaughn

Phi: Noel, Okafor, Embiid, Saric, a billion picks

LAL: Russell, Randle, Clarkson, Kobe's sperm

Who else?
Don't forget Dipo for the Magic

 
I don't see the Lakers arrow as up yet. We have no idea how good Randle or Russel will be (particularly Randle, people just assume he's already good for some reason. :shrug: )

After this year they likely lose Kobe and Hibbert, who both kind of suck now anyways, and likely won't have a lottery pick to show for it. I don't get the excitement.
I would be excited for Russell, and I would hope Randle is a competent/useful 4. Clarkson seems like a nice combo-guard/6th man type. Other than that I agree there isn't much to be excited about. They're in wait and hope for a big signing mode. Maybe next year I guess...
It's not Towns/Wiggins/LaVine, but that Russell/Randle/Clarkson core is one of the better young cores around...I mean think of it this way...how much (if any) worse is that than the Sixers core?
YOUNG CORES CHAT!

Orl: Payton, Hezonja, Gordon, Tobias

Min: Wiggins, Towns, LaVine, Muhammad, Tyus?

Mil: Parker, Antetokounmpo, MCW, Vaughn

Phi: Noel, Okafor, Embiid, Saric, a billion picks

LAL: Russell, Randle, Clarkson, Kobe's sperm

Who else?
Don't forget Dipo for the Magic
:goodposting: Cappy's boys looking very exciting.

 
Pistons 2-deep is set heading into the season, I think:

PG: Reggie Jackson, Brandon Jennings

SG: Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Jodie Meeks

SF: Marcus Morris, Stanley Johnson

PF: Ersan Ilyasova, Anthony Tolliver

C: Andre Drummond, Aron Baynes

SVG has done a nice job taking the mess he inherited and building his type of team. While there's at least 8 teams in the East that are better on paper, I think they can overachieve a little bit and get into the playoffs.

 
I don't see the Lakers arrow as up yet. We have no idea how good Randle or Russel will be (particularly Randle, people just assume he's already good for some reason. :shrug: )

After this year they likely lose Kobe and Hibbert, who both kind of suck now anyways, and likely won't have a lottery pick to show for it. I don't get the excitement.
I would be excited for Russell, and I would hope Randle is a competent/useful 4. Clarkson seems like a nice combo-guard/6th man type. Other than that I agree there isn't much to be excited about. They're in wait and hope for a big signing mode. Maybe next year I guess...
It's not Towns/Wiggins/LaVine, but that Russell/Randle/Clarkson core is one of the better young cores around...I mean think of it this way...how much (if any) worse is that than the Sixers core?
I'd rather have Noel/Okafor/Saric/maybe Embiid than those 3. And it's somewhat beside the point, but Philly has the picks to continue building through the draft, whereas LA owes two possibly valuable picks in the near future.
Point being is that the Lakers aren't that far from being competitive again especially with their salary cap situation. This thread likes to make fun of them because Kobe!, but they haven't been doing a horrible job.

 
I don't see the Lakers arrow as up yet. We have no idea how good Randle or Russel will be (particularly Randle, people just assume he's already good for some reason. :shrug: )

After this year they likely lose Kobe and Hibbert, who both kind of suck now anyways, and likely won't have a lottery pick to show for it. I don't get the excitement.
I would be excited for Russell, and I would hope Randle is a competent/useful 4. Clarkson seems like a nice combo-guard/6th man type. Other than that I agree there isn't much to be excited about. They're in wait and hope for a big signing mode. Maybe next year I guess...
It's not Towns/Wiggins/LaVine, but that Russell/Randle/Clarkson core is one of the better young cores around...I mean think of it this way...how much (if any) worse is that than the Sixers core?
YOUNG CORES CHAT!

Orl: Payton, Hezonja, Gordon, Tobias

Min: Wiggins, Towns, LaVine, Muhammad, Tyus?

Mil: Parker, Antetokounmpo, MCW, Vaughn

Phi: Noel, Okafor, Embiid, Saric, a billion picks

LAL: Russell, Randle, Clarkson, Kobe's sperm

Who else?
Don't forget Dipo for the Magic
:goodposting: Cappy's boys looking very exciting.
Bos: Thomas, Smart, Olynyk WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 
I don't see the Lakers arrow as up yet. We have no idea how good Randle or Russel will be (particularly Randle, people just assume he's already good for some reason. :shrug: )

After this year they likely lose Kobe and Hibbert, who both kind of suck now anyways, and likely won't have a lottery pick to show for it. I don't get the excitement.
I would be excited for Russell, and I would hope Randle is a competent/useful 4. Clarkson seems like a nice combo-guard/6th man type. Other than that I agree there isn't much to be excited about. They're in wait and hope for a big signing mode. Maybe next year I guess...
It's not Towns/Wiggins/LaVine, but that Russell/Randle/Clarkson core is one of the better young cores around...I mean think of it this way...how much (if any) worse is that than the Sixers core?
YOUNG CORES CHAT!

Orl: Payton, Hezonja, Gordon, Tobias

Min: Wiggins, Towns, LaVine, Muhammad, Tyus?

Mil: Parker, Antetokounmpo, MCW, Vaughn

Phi: Noel, Okafor, Embiid, Saric, a billion picks

LAL: Russell, Randle, Clarkson, Kobe's sperm

Who else?
...and I was a little amazed that Monroe is only 25. :shrug:

Young enough to be part of the build.

 
brohans i think the bucks have a good young corps between antereaternintendo jabrari monroe middleton and ennis that is a lot to grow with right there i hope that they trade mcwymca for some new audio equipment or something and then bam you have something take that to the bank bromigos

 
I don't see the Lakers arrow as up yet. We have no idea how good Randle or Russel will be (particularly Randle, people just assume he's already good for some reason. :shrug: )

After this year they likely lose Kobe and Hibbert, who both kind of suck now anyways, and likely won't have a lottery pick to show for it. I don't get the excitement.
I would be excited for Russell, and I would hope Randle is a competent/useful 4. Clarkson seems like a nice combo-guard/6th man type. Other than that I agree there isn't much to be excited about. They're in wait and hope for a big signing mode. Maybe next year I guess...
It's not Towns/Wiggins/LaVine, but that Russell/Randle/Clarkson core is one of the better young cores around...I mean think of it this way...how much (if any) worse is that than the Sixers core?
YOUNG CORES CHAT!Orl: Payton, Hezonja, Gordon, Tobias

Min: Wiggins, Towns, LaVine, Muhammad, Tyus?

Mil: Parker, Antetokounmpo, MCW, Vaughn

Phi: Noel, Okafor, Embiid, Saric, a billion picks

LAL: Russell, Randle, Clarkson, Kobe's sperm

Who else?
Don't forget Dipo for the Magic
:goodposting: Cappy's boys looking very exciting.
And Vucevic is only 24 :thumbup:

 
I don't see the Lakers arrow as up yet. We have no idea how good Randle or Russel will be (particularly Randle, people just assume he's already good for some reason. :shrug: )

After this year they likely lose Kobe and Hibbert, who both kind of suck now anyways, and likely won't have a lottery pick to show for it. I don't get the excitement.
I would be excited for Russell, and I would hope Randle is a competent/useful 4. Clarkson seems like a nice combo-guard/6th man type. Other than that I agree there isn't much to be excited about. They're in wait and hope for a big signing mode. Maybe next year I guess...
It's not Towns/Wiggins/LaVine, but that Russell/Randle/Clarkson core is one of the better young cores around...I mean think of it this way...how much (if any) worse is that than the Sixers core?
YOUNG CORES CHAT!

Orl: Payton, Hezonja, Gordon, Tobias

Min: Wiggins, Towns, LaVine, Muhammad, Tyus?

Mil: Parker, Antetokounmpo, MCW, Vaughn

Phi: Noel, Okafor, Embiid, Saric, a billion picks

LAL: Russell, Randle, Clarkson, Kobe's sperm

Who else?
...and I was a little amazed that Monroe is only 25. :shrug:

Young enough to be part of the build.
Dragic

Winslow

Whiteside

 
cappy you probably saw him more than me but i remember tobias in milwaukee he was a ball stopper when the ball got to him that meant that he was shooting it how is he on that nowadays downaround your way bromigo

 
I don't see the Lakers arrow as up yet. We have no idea how good Randle or Russel will be (particularly Randle, people just assume he's already good for some reason. :shrug: )

After this year they likely lose Kobe and Hibbert, who both kind of suck now anyways, and likely won't have a lottery pick to show for it. I don't get the excitement.
I would be excited for Russell, and I would hope Randle is a competent/useful 4. Clarkson seems like a nice combo-guard/6th man type. Other than that I agree there isn't much to be excited about. They're in wait and hope for a big signing mode. Maybe next year I guess...
It's not Towns/Wiggins/LaVine, but that Russell/Randle/Clarkson core is one of the better young cores around...I mean think of it this way...how much (if any) worse is that than the Sixers core?
YOUNG CORES CHAT!Orl: Payton, Hezonja, Gordon, Tobias

Min: Wiggins, Towns, LaVine, Muhammad, Tyus?

Mil: Parker, Antetokounmpo, MCW, Vaughn

Phi: Noel, Okafor, Embiid, Saric, a billion picks

LAL: Russell, Randle, Clarkson, Kobe's sperm

Who else?
...and I was a little amazed that Monroe is only 25. :shrug:

Young enough to be part of the build.
DragicWinslow

Whiteside
No. Dragic is like 30 or something.

 
cappy you probably saw him more than me but i remember tobias in milwaukee he was a ball stopper when the ball got to him that meant that he was shooting it how is he on that nowadays downaround your way bromigo
Still a ball stopper. Not a huge fan but he's certainly talented. Hopefully with all the talent around him now he doesn't need to do that as much.

 
I don't see the Lakers arrow as up yet. We have no idea how good Randle or Russel will be (particularly Randle, people just assume he's already good for some reason. :shrug: )

After this year they likely lose Kobe and Hibbert, who both kind of suck now anyways, and likely won't have a lottery pick to show for it. I don't get the excitement.
I would be excited for Russell, and I would hope Randle is a competent/useful 4. Clarkson seems like a nice combo-guard/6th man type. Other than that I agree there isn't much to be excited about. They're in wait and hope for a big signing mode. Maybe next year I guess...
It's not Towns/Wiggins/LaVine, but that Russell/Randle/Clarkson core is one of the better young cores around...I mean think of it this way...how much (if any) worse is that than the Sixers core?
YOUNG CORES CHAT!

Orl: Payton, Hezonja, Gordon, Tobias

Min: Wiggins, Towns, LaVine, Muhammad, Tyus?

Mil: Parker, Antetokounmpo, MCW, Vaughn

Phi: Noel, Okafor, Embiid, Saric, a billion picks

LAL: Russell, Randle, Clarkson, Kobe's sperm

Who else?
...and I was a little amazed that Monroe is only 25. :shrug:

Young enough to be part of the build.
Dragic

Winslow

Whiteside
duncan ginobli parker brohans

 
I don't see the Lakers arrow as up yet. We have no idea how good Randle or Russel will be (particularly Randle, people just assume he's already good for some reason. :shrug: )

After this year they likely lose Kobe and Hibbert, who both kind of suck now anyways, and likely won't have a lottery pick to show for it. I don't get the excitement.
I would be excited for Russell, and I would hope Randle is a competent/useful 4. Clarkson seems like a nice combo-guard/6th man type. Other than that I agree there isn't much to be excited about. They're in wait and hope for a big signing mode. Maybe next year I guess...
It's not Towns/Wiggins/LaVine, but that Russell/Randle/Clarkson core is one of the better young cores around...I mean think of it this way...how much (if any) worse is that than the Sixers core?
YOUNG CORES CHAT!

Orl: Payton, Hezonja, Gordon, Tobias

Min: Wiggins, Towns, LaVine, Muhammad, Tyus?

Mil: Parker, Antetokounmpo, MCW, Vaughn

Phi: Noel, Okafor, Embiid, Saric, a billion picks

LAL: Russell, Randle, Clarkson, Kobe's sperm

Who else?
...and I was a little amazed that Monroe is only 25. :shrug:

Young enough to be part of the build.
Dragic

Winslow

Whiteside
duncan ginobli parker brohans
:lmao:

 
I don't see the Lakers arrow as up yet. We have no idea how good Randle or Russel will be (particularly Randle, people just assume he's already good for some reason. :shrug: )

After this year they likely lose Kobe and Hibbert, who both kind of suck now anyways, and likely won't have a lottery pick to show for it. I don't get the excitement.
I would be excited for Russell, and I would hope Randle is a competent/useful 4. Clarkson seems like a nice combo-guard/6th man type. Other than that I agree there isn't much to be excited about. They're in wait and hope for a big signing mode. Maybe next year I guess...
It's not Towns/Wiggins/LaVine, but that Russell/Randle/Clarkson core is one of the better young cores around...I mean think of it this way...how much (if any) worse is that than the Sixers core?
YOUNG CORES CHAT!

Orl: Payton, Hezonja, Gordon, Tobias

Min: Wiggins, Towns, LaVine, Muhammad, Tyus?

Mil: Parker, Antetokounmpo, MCW, Vaughn

Phi: Noel, Okafor, Embiid, Saric, a billion picks

LAL: Russell, Randle, Clarkson, Kobe's sperm

Who else?
...and I was a little amazed that Monroe is only 25. :shrug:

Young enough to be part of the build.
Dragic

Winslow

Whiteside
duncan ginobli parker brohans
I can only pray that comes to fruition.

 
I don't see the Lakers arrow as up yet. We have no idea how good Randle or Russel will be (particularly Randle, people just assume he's already good for some reason. :shrug: )

After this year they likely lose Kobe and Hibbert, who both kind of suck now anyways, and likely won't have a lottery pick to show for it. I don't get the excitement.
I would be excited for Russell, and I would hope Randle is a competent/useful 4. Clarkson seems like a nice combo-guard/6th man type. Other than that I agree there isn't much to be excited about. They're in wait and hope for a big signing mode. Maybe next year I guess...
It's not Towns/Wiggins/LaVine, but that Russell/Randle/Clarkson core is one of the better young cores around...I mean think of it this way...how much (if any) worse is that than the Sixers core?
YOUNG CORES CHAT!

Orl: Payton, Hezonja, Gordon, Tobias

Min: Wiggins, Towns, LaVine, Muhammad, Tyus?

Mil: Parker, Antetokounmpo, MCW, Vaughn

Phi: Noel, Okafor, Embiid, Saric, a billion picks

LAL: Russell, Randle, Clarkson, Kobe's sperm

Who else?
...and I was a little amazed that Monroe is only 25. :shrug:

Young enough to be part of the build.
Dragic

Winslow

Whiteside
duncan ginobli parker brohans
I can only pray that comes to fruition.
i am marking it down bromigo

 
I don't see the Lakers arrow as up yet. We have no idea how good Randle or Russel will be (particularly Randle, people just assume he's already good for some reason. :shrug: )

After this year they likely lose Kobe and Hibbert, who both kind of suck now anyways, and likely won't have a lottery pick to show for it. I don't get the excitement.
I would be excited for Russell, and I would hope Randle is a competent/useful 4. Clarkson seems like a nice combo-guard/6th man type. Other than that I agree there isn't much to be excited about. They're in wait and hope for a big signing mode. Maybe next year I guess...
It's not Towns/Wiggins/LaVine, but that Russell/Randle/Clarkson core is one of the better young cores around...I mean think of it this way...how much (if any) worse is that than the Sixers core?
YOUNG CORES CHAT!

Orl: Payton, Hezonja, Gordon, Tobias

Min: Wiggins, Towns, LaVine, Muhammad, Tyus?

Mil: Parker, Antetokounmpo, MCW, Vaughn

Phi: Noel, Okafor, Embiid, Saric, a billion picks

LAL: Russell, Randle, Clarkson, Kobe's sperm

Who else?
...and I was a little amazed that Monroe is only 25. :shrug:

Young enough to be part of the build.
Dragic

Winslow

Whiteside
duncan ginobli parker brohans
I can only pray that comes to fruition.
i am marking it down bromigo
Marking it that I am praying....thanks Brohan!!!

 
I don't see the Lakers arrow as up yet. We have no idea how good Randle or Russel will be (particularly Randle, people just assume he's already good for some reason. :shrug: )

After this year they likely lose Kobe and Hibbert, who both kind of suck now anyways, and likely won't have a lottery pick to show for it. I don't get the excitement.
I would be excited for Russell, and I would hope Randle is a competent/useful 4. Clarkson seems like a nice combo-guard/6th man type. Other than that I agree there isn't much to be excited about. They're in wait and hope for a big signing mode. Maybe next year I guess...
It's not Towns/Wiggins/LaVine, but that Russell/Randle/Clarkson core is one of the better young cores around...I mean think of it this way...how much (if any) worse is that than the Sixers core?
YOUNG CORES CHAT!Orl: Payton, Hezonja, Gordon, Tobias

Min: Wiggins, Towns, LaVine, Muhammad, Tyus?

Mil: Parker, Antetokounmpo, MCW, Vaughn

Phi: Noel, Okafor, Embiid, Saric, a billion picks

LAL: Russell, Randle, Clarkson, Kobe's sperm

Who else?
...and I was a little amazed that Monroe is only 25. :shrug:

Young enough to be part of the build.
DragicWinslow

Whiteside
duncan ginobli parker brohans
I can only pray that comes to fruition.
It won't.

 
come on todem just admit that you never watched the heat before they got labron and now you do not watch it until the playoffs it is ok bromigo we are here for you

 
Yeah, I drew the imaginary line around 22-23, but some good names brought up.
I wasn't sure if I could count Reggie Jackson (25) for the Pistons.

Drummond/KCP/Johnson is something, right? Johnson's off to a really good start in the summer league.
:goodposting:
I'm hoping.

Not a KCP believer, but love Reggie and Drummond as a long-term foundation. Loved Monroe too, but I think Drummond was the more dominant piece to keep, and he and Monroe made awkward frontcourt mates. Monroe so demanded traditional post offense go through him that I think Drummond's early-career offensive development was stunted.

I like seeing that build coming together with dominant inside big/true PG/slahser in Johnson. DET and MIL are being well designed, and should be part of an ascendant East over the foreseeable future.

 
I don't see the Lakers arrow as up yet. We have no idea how good Randle or Russel will be (particularly Randle, people just assume he's already good for some reason. :shrug: )

After this year they likely lose Kobe and Hibbert, who both kind of suck now anyways, and likely won't have a lottery pick to show for it. I don't get the excitement.
I would be excited for Russell, and I would hope Randle is a competent/useful 4. Clarkson seems like a nice combo-guard/6th man type. Other than that I agree there isn't much to be excited about. They're in wait and hope for a big signing mode. Maybe next year I guess...
It's not Towns/Wiggins/LaVine, but that Russell/Randle/Clarkson core is one of the better young cores around...I mean think of it this way...how much (if any) worse is that than the Sixers core?
I'd rather have Noel/Okafor/Saric/maybe Embiid than those 3. And it's somewhat beside the point, but Philly has the picks to continue building through the draft, whereas LA owes two possibly valuable picks in the near future.
Point being is that the Lakers aren't that far from being competitive again especially with their salary cap situation. This thread likes to make fun of them because Kobe!, but they haven't been doing a horrible job.
Contracts are only yay so long and there's going to be so much space, hypothetically nobody's that far away from being competitive. But they a) are draft pick deficient in the near future and b) apparently do not have the ability to just snap their fingers, open the vault, and have Marquis free agents lined up out the door.

I liked the Russell pick and I think Clarkson should be fine, but I don't know if Randle's going to be much. Even if he's going to be a very decent 4, that's still a loooong way off from CLE/GS/SA territory.

 
Not that it keeps up with some of the big young cores, but the Nuggets are doing a solid job on that front. Mudiay, Nurkic and it sounds like they are bringing over Nikola Jokic who is 20 years old and was the MVP of the Adriatic League where he was second in PPG and first in RPG.

 
Yeah, I drew the imaginary line around 22-23, but some good names brought up.
I wasn't sure if I could count Reggie Jackson (25) for the Pistons.

Drummond/KCP/Johnson is something, right? Johnson's off to a really good start in the summer league.
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I'm hoping.

Not a KCP believer, but love Reggie and Drummond as a long-term foundation. Loved Monroe too, but I think Drummond was the more dominant piece to keep, and he and Monroe made awkward frontcourt mates. Monroe so demanded traditional post offense go through him that I think Drummond's early-career offensive development was stunted.

I like seeing that build coming together with dominant inside big/true PG/slahser in Johnson. DET and MIL are being well designed, and should be part of an ascendant East over the foreseeable future.
i agree and to actually make it true maybe the world will decide that it needs to launch brandon jennings in to the sun and then the prophesy of mil and det being good at the same time again will be fulfilled take that to the bank

 
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come on todem just admit that you never watched the heat before they got labron and now you do not watch it until the playoffs it is ok bromigo we are here for you
As much as some of you want this to be true. It is just false.

Been with my Heaters since their inception (est 1988). Original season ticket holder, the works.

If I had to hear Lewis Schafell say one more time "Billy Owens is the most talented player we have ever had" I was going to puke. Thank goodness Ted Arison had heard enough and bought their stakes out and brought the Godfather in. What a blessing it was for the franchise.

It's been an amazing ride since.

 

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