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SWC said:
the bucks are going to have a sneakily good all time five brohans take that to the bank
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I agree.

Lew Alcindor at center, edging out Bob Lanier and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.

I'd pick Marques Johnson and Bobby Dandridge at forward, though Glenn Robinson, Paul Pressey, and Terry Cummings might have something to say about that.

My guards would be my main man Sidney Moncrief and future HOFer Ray Allen, but there's also solid longtime Bucks like Michael Redd and Junior Bridgeman, and there's that late-career visit from Oscar Robertson to consider, too.

 
Gr00vus said:
SWC said:
the bucks are going to have a sneakily good all time five brohans take that to the bank
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Imagine how much better it could have been if they'd held on to Nowitzki. Kareem, Oscar, Moncrief/Allen, Marques, Nowitzki - that would have been a pretty good starting 5.
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the nowitzki and allen trades kill me the most with kareem we got a title can not complaint moncrief we saw a long time marques we got pierce hodges and cummings for you can not complain to much about that but on nowitzki we got tractor trailer it is sad he is dead but he stunk and was not worth it terrible trade and for allen we got a largely done gary payton who then left right away all because george karl was still in love with him never made sense to me what him and larry harris were doing just horrible set the franchise back big time taek that to the bank bromigos

 
so lew abdul jabbar at c the big o at pg are no brainers they won a title for the bucks then at small forward i think you have to go johnson his numbers were better than bobby dandridge at power forward you go with here is a shocker vin baker he was the man for a long time and gets overlooked but put up the best numbers for a buck at pf even better than cummings went twenty one and ten his last year then at shooting guard has to be ray allen one of the best ever to play the game period take that to the bank brohans

 
man the bucks had some pgs eh brohans between the big o gary payton and sam cassel that is not shabby and back in the day flynn robinson was not a slouch either take that to the bank

 
Notorious T.R.E. said:
Hmm guess Mitch should be more of a SAC guy.
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BDL mentioned Richmond, and said they cut him because he only played three seasons with GSW. Those must have been three really memorable seasons; I would have guessed a lot longer than that.For this exercise, SAC shares the history of the Kansas City Kings, KC/Omaha Kings, and the Cincinnati Royals, so there's 40+ years of Kings guards applying for the other guard spot opposite Oscar.

 
Bored offseason. I'm doing only LA Lakers teams, nothing from Minny.

1st team:

Kobe Bryant

Magic Johnson

James Worthy

Elgin Baylor

Kareem Abdul Jabbar

2nd team:

Jerry West

Gail Goodrich

Jamaal Wilkes

Pau Gasol

Shaquille O'Neal

3rd team:

Derek Fisher

Byron Scott

AC Green

Robert Horry

Wilt Chamberlain

4th team:

Michael Cooper

Norm Nixon

Lamar Odom

Rick Fox

Vlade Divac

5th team:

Nick Van Exel

Brian Shaw

Kurt Rambis

Bob McAdoo

Mychal Thompson

That was fun, probably missed someone along the way.

Edit:

Bob McAdoo for Elden Campbell

Rambis in for George

Mychal Thompson in for Bynum

 
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Bruce Dickinson said:
Notorious T.R.E. said:
Hmm guess Mitch should be more of a SAC guy.
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BDL mentioned Richmond, and said they cut him because he only played three seasons with GSW. Those must have been three really memorable seasons; I would have guessed a lot longer than that.For this exercise, SAC shares the history of the Kansas City Kings, KC/Omaha Kings, and the Cincinnati Royals, so there's 40+ years of Kings guards applying for the other guard spot opposite Oscar.
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:goodposting:

Joe Barry Carroll gets a bench spot on the Warriors too I hope!

 
here i will do one for la lakers c do not care pf do not care sf do not care sg do not care pg do not care second team do not care third team nope still do not care fourth team wilt was pretty cool but otherwise do not care fifth team who cares also screw you kobme take that to the bank brohans

 
Bruce Dickinson said:
Notorious T.R.E. said:
Hmm guess Mitch should be more of a SAC guy.
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BDL mentioned Richmond, and said they cut him because he only played three seasons with GSW. Those must have been three really memorable seasons; I would have guessed a lot longer than that.For this exercise, SAC shares the history of the Kansas City Kings, KC/Omaha Kings, and the Cincinnati Royals, so there's 40+ years of Kings guards applying for the other guard spot opposite Oscar.
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Oscar, Mitch, Peja, Webber, Cousins (unless there was some dominant pre-Sacramento center that played for the franchise that I'm forgetting about). Obviously not competitive with the better franchises in the league but not a terrible lineup for a franchise that has been a doormat for most of its existence.

 
thecatch said:
Bruce Dickinson said:
Notorious T.R.E. said:
Hmm guess Mitch should be more of a SAC guy.
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BDL mentioned Richmond, and said they cut him because he only played three seasons with GSW. Those must have been three really memorable seasons; I would have guessed a lot longer than that.For this exercise, SAC shares the history of the Kansas City Kings, KC/Omaha Kings, and the Cincinnati Royals, so there's 40+ years of Kings guards applying for the other guard spot opposite Oscar.
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Oscar, Mitch, Peja, Webber, Cousins (unless there was some dominant pre-Sacramento center that played for the franchise that I'm forgetting about). Obviously not competitive with the better franchises in the league but not a terrible lineup for a franchise that has been a doormat for most of its existence.
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Phil Ford and Otis Birdsong were a pretty solid backcourt for a few years in KC.

 
TIMBERWOLVES

C Karl Anthony Towns

F Kevin Garnett

F Tom Gugliotta

G Doug West

G Stephon Marbury

C Al Jefferson

F Sam Mitchell

F Kevin Love

G Pooh Richardson

G Terrell Brandon

C Rasho Nesterovic

F Andrew Wiggins

F Wally Szczerbiak

G Isaiah Rider

G Tony Campbell

C Felton Spencer

F Christian Laettner

F Joe Smith

G Sam Cassell

G Ricky Rubio

C Dean Garrett

F Chuck Person

F Corey Brewer

G Troy Hudson

G Trenton Hassell

 
Magic's starting five of almost great but not quite

Penny

McGrady

Shaq

Horace Grant

Hedo?

You could probably mix Rashad Lewis and Dennis Scott into those forward spots

 
hey lake show fans i just reread that last thing i typed out and it seems pretty mean i was just trying to be funny sorry for not following the path of the brohan on that one but hey i guess when you win titles every other year or so and are the duke of the nba you have to just expect some dudes in milwaukee to get a little ornery take that to the bank shot

 
Dallas Mavericks:

C: Tyson Chandler

PF: Dirk Nowitzki

SF: Michael Finley

SG: Jason Terry

PG: Steve Nash

C: Shawn Bradley

PF: Jay Vincent???? Wasteland here.

SF: Mark Aguirre

SG: Rolando Blackmon

PG: Jason Kidd

Chandler only has the 2 seasons, but the title and just being so much better than Shawn Bradley convinced me to put him on the list anyway. Dirk's easy. PG was the hardest for me: Nash vs. Kidd vs. Harper, but I left off Harper in spite of longevity because of just how good Nash was when he was in Dallas, and because Kidd brought the title. I could do this again tomorrow and end up shuffling those 3 guys around again. Harper was here for so long, but I think Nash/Kidd were just better. Somebody who watched the NBA back then and has more than just stats and stories could likely help me out here.

You could argue I cheated a bit to put Finley at SF rather than SG, but I'm reasonably sure he played there a lot. And he gets the nod over Aguirre due to shooting ability.

 
Finley played most of his prime, including his All-Star seasons, at SF so you're safe putting Finley there. Finley v Aguirre will be a matchup BDL will have to address in their Mavericks article, no matter which guy they take. Aguirre is the more famous player, but Finley grades out well on paper thanks to his three-point shooting. Plus, there's those millions of records Finley sold under the assumed name "Billy Ocean", but I don't know how much that matters here.

For C, James Donaldson was DAL's starter at C for a long time. He never threatened the top Cs in the league, but could bang around and block a few shots.

At backup PF... Roy Tarpley didn't last long, but was a force when he played. Cocaine is a helluva drug. A possibility if peak value is all that matters, but no longevity to speak of.

BDL won't be discerning between PG and SG, but I think they will go Kidd and Blackman even with three good PGs to choose from. Blackman was a much more complete player than Terry.

I'm just disappointed there isn't room for Brad Davis.

 
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Nuggets...

G: Allen Iverson (He was better than people probably remember in his two Denver years)

G: David Thompson

F: Carmelo Anthony

F: Alex English

C: Dan Issel

G: Fat Lever (based on entire Nuggets career, should be first team ahead of Iverson)

G: Chauncey Billups

F: Antonio McDyess

F: Kiki Vandeweghe

C: Dikembe Mutombo

G: Ty Lawson

G:Bobby Jones

F: Kenyon Martin

F: Nene

C: Marcus Camby

 
Bruce Dickinson said:
Finley played most of his prime, including his All-Star seasons, at SF so you're safe putting Finley there. Finley v Aguirre will be a matchup BDL will have to address in their Mavericks article, no matter which guy they take. Aguirre is the more famous player, but Finley grades out well on paper thanks to his three-point shooting.

For C, James Donaldson was DAL's starter at C for a long time. He never threatened the top Cs in the league, but could bang around and block a few shots.

At backup PF... Roy Tarpley didn't last long, but was a force when he played. Cocaine is a helluva drug. A possibility if peak value is all that matters, but no longevity to speak of.

BDL won't be discerning between PG and SG, but I think they will go Kidd and Blackman even with three good PGs to choose from. Blackman was a much more complete player than Terry.

I'm just disappointed there isn't room for Brad Davis.
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I've got all these stories about Harper from my dad, actually. They were at Illinois together and apparently the players were much more liberal about just going to play pickup ball with people.

Kidd is interesting because he really had all his best years after and before his two Dallas stints.

You may be disappointed about Davis, but I'm most disappointed in the fact that it would be tough to compete with most of the other "all-time" teams. Dirk can account for a lot in the NBA, but the gravity he provides matter a lot less when you're up against these other teams of entire franchises worth of greatness with twice as many seasons of players to draw from. Makes me really nervous about the next 5-10 years of Dallas basketball.

 
Kev4029 said:
Nuggets...

G: Allen Iverson (He was better than people probably remember in his two Denver years)

G: David Thompson

F: Carmelo Anthony

F: Alex English

C: Dan Issel

G: Fat Lever (based on entire Nuggets career, should be first team ahead of Iverson)

G: Chauncey Billups

F: Antonio McDyess

F: Kiki Vandeweghe

C: Dikembe Mutombo

G: Ty Lawson

G:Bobby Jones

F: Kenyon Martin

F: Nene

C: Marcus Camby
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If George Karl made this team, Andre Miller would have to start at all 3 teams' PG spots, right?

 
Capella said:
Magic's starting five of almost great but not quite

Penny

McGrady

Shaq

Horace Grant

Hedo?

You could probably mix Rashad Lewis and Dennis Scott into those forward spots
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When you peruse ORL's franchise leader stats, Dennis Scott is 3rd-5th in a ton of counting and shooting categories. And then he disappears when the all-around metrics kick in. IIRC Hedo is ahead of Scott even in compiling all-arounds like franchise win shares. I once heard a pro scout say about Dennis Scott's shot selection, "if he was in a moving bus outside a gym with an open window, he would put it up".

 
Orlando:

Jameer Nelson

Nick Anderson

Hedo Turkoglu

Dennis Scott

Dwight Howard

Dallas:

Derek Harper

Rolando Blackmon

Dirk Nowitzki

Mark Aguirre

Shawn Bradley

 
Kev4029 said:
Nuggets...

G: Allen Iverson (He was better than people probably remember in his two Denver years)

G: David Thompson

F: Carmelo Anthony

F: Alex English

C: Dan Issel

G: Fat Lever (based on entire Nuggets career, should be first team ahead of Iverson)

G: Chauncey Billups

F: Antonio McDyess

F: Kiki Vandeweghe

C: Dikembe Mutombo

G: Ty Lawson

G:Bobby Jones

F: Kenyon Martin

F: Nene

C: Marcus Camby
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oh come on, 2 years of Iverson isn't one of the two greatest guards in Nuggets history.

 
8ebok24 said:
Kev4029 said:
Nuggets...

G: Allen Iverson (He was better than people probably remember in his two Denver years)

G: David Thompson

F: Carmelo Anthony

F: Alex English

C: Dan Issel

G: Fat Lever (based on entire Nuggets career, should be first team ahead of Iverson)

G: Chauncey Billups

F: Antonio McDyess

F: Kiki Vandeweghe

C: Dikembe Mutombo

G: Ty Lawson

G:Bobby Jones

F: Kenyon Martin

F: Nene

C: Marcus Camby
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oh come on, 2 years of Iverson isn't one of the two greatest guards in Nuggets history.
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So that brings up the question: does longevity matter?

In the case of Dallas, longevity as a factor would move Harper up quite a bit, but without it I don't see how he passes Kidd or Nash. Same thing with Bradley/Chandler.

 
PG: Tony Parker

SG: George Gervin

C: David Robinson

PF: Tim Duncan

SF: Bowen/Silas/Ginobli/Kenon

 
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I think Philly is going to have a nice lineup:

1st team

PG Iverson

SG Hal Greer

SF Dr J

PF Barkley

C Wilt

2nd team

PG Maurice Cheeks

SG Heresey Hawkins

SF Andre Iguodala

PF Billy Cunningham

C Moses Malone

 
Chicago Bulls:

1st team

PG - Derrick Rose

SG - MJ

SF - Pippen

PF - Rodman

C - Artis Gilmore

2nd team

PG - Norm Van Lier

SG - Reggie Theus

SF - Toni Kukoc

PF - Horace Grant

C - Joakim Noah

 
Houston Rockets:

PG - Calvin Murphy

SG - James Harden

SF - Clyde Drexler

PF - Moses Malone (if he qualifies, otherwise Otis Thorpe)

C - Olajuwon

 
Kev4029 said:
Nuggets...

G: Allen Iverson (He was better than people probably remember in his two Denver years)

G: David Thompson

F: Carmelo Anthony

F: Alex English

C: Dan Issel

G: Fat Lever (based on entire Nuggets career, should be first team ahead of Iverson)

G: Chauncey Billups

F: Antonio McDyess

F: Kiki Vandeweghe

C: Dikembe Mutombo

G: Ty Lawson

G:Bobby Jones

F: Kenyon Martin

F: Nene

C: Marcus Camby
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Where's Byron Beck?

 
Which franchises have the best starting fives?

Celtics & Lakers are pretty obvious. I think Philly and San Antonio are right there with them. After that, the Bulls, Knicks, Rockets & Bucks, although each of them have a weak spot.

 
Jayrod said:
I think Philly is going to have a nice lineup:

1st team

PG Iverson

SG Hal Greer

SF Dr J

PF Barkley

C Wilt

2nd team

PG Maurice Cheeks

SG Heresey Hawkins Andrew Toney

SF Andre Iguodala

PF Billy Cunningham

C Moses Malone
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Andrew Toney should be on there instead of Hawkins.

 
Jayrod said:
Which franchises have the best starting fives?

Celtics & Lakers are pretty obvious. I think Philly and San Antonio are right there with them. After that, the Bulls, Knicks, Rockets & Bucks, although each of them have a weak spot.
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You apparently did not consider the unstoppable force of a John Wall-Gilbert Arenas-Gus Johnson-Elvin Hayes-Wes Unseld unit. A careless oversight on your part, I'm sure.

 
JAZZ

C Mark Eaton

F Karl Malone

F Adrian Dantley

G John Stockton

G Lewis Scott

C Memhet Okur

F Paul Millsap

F Andrei Kirilenko

G Pete Maravich

G Darrell Griffith

C Greg Ostertag

F Carlos Boozer

F Thurl Bailey

G Deron Williams

G Jeff Hornacek

 
Tom Hagen said:
Jayrod said:
I think Philly is going to have a nice lineup:

1st team

PG Iverson

SG Hal Greer

SF Dr J

PF Barkley

C Wilt

2nd team

PG Maurice Cheeks

SG Heresey Hawkins Andrew Toney

SF Andre Iguodala

PF Billy Cunningham

C Moses Malone
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Andrew Toney should be on there instead of Hawkins.
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I would also knock Iguodola out for Dolph Schayes or Bobby Jones.

edit: or knock out Cunningham also and let him coach.

 
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Starting Five Darryl Dawkins Dunk Names

C: Chocolate-Thunder-Flying, Robinzine-Crying, Teeth-Shaking, Glass-Breaking, Rump-Roasting, Bun-Toasting, Wham-Bam, Glass-Breaker-I-Am-Jam

F: Turbo Sexophonic Delight

F: Look Out Below

G: Coast-To-Coast Greyhound Special

G: Dunk You Very Much

Second Team

C: In-Your-Face Disgrace

F: Yo-Mama

F: Walk Away From Love

G: Earthquaker Shaker

G: Spine Chiller Supreme

Third Team

C: If It Ain't Groovin You Best Get Movin

F: Slam Bam Thank You Ma'am

F: Candyslam

G: Go-Rilla

G: Rim-Wrecker

 
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Bruce Dickinson said:
Starting Five Darryl Dawkins Dunk Names

C: Chocolate-Thunder-Flying, Robinzine-Crying, Teeth-Shaking, Glass-Breaking, Rump-Roasting, Bun-Toasting, Wham-Bam, Glass-Breaker-I-Am-Jam

F: Turbo Sexophonic Delight

F: Look Out Below

G: Coast-To-Coast Greyhound Special

G: Dunk You Very Much

Second Team

C: In-Your-Face Disgrace

F: Yo-Mama

F: Walk Away From Love

G: Earthquaker Shaker

G: Spine Chiller Supreme

Third Team

C: If It Ain't Groovin You Best Get Movin

F: Slam Bam Thank You Ma'am

F: Candyslam

G: Go-Rilla

G: Rim-Wrecker
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Pretty sure this one should be 1st or 2nd team.

 
Long Ball Larry said:
Wow, Dr. J is 22nd all-time in blocked shots (combined NBA/ABA).
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There's an asterisk there because blocks didn't become an official NBA stat until the 1974 season, so guys like Wilt and Russell aren't on the board at all. Still, Julius was an outstanding shot blocker, probably the best at the chasedown block until LeBron came along.

 
Jayrod said:
Which franchises have the best starting fives?

Celtics & Lakers are pretty obvious. I think Philly and San Antonio are right there with them. After that, the Bulls, Knicks, Rockets & Bucks, although each of them have a weak spot.
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what do you view as the bucks weak spot brohan take that to the peaked my curiosuty bank bromigo

 
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