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[Britney Spears]

Stephen Curry made a move today that seriously made no sense. He might be the most fun guy to watch play basketball ever.

The video embedded in this article has Curry's play from multiple angles. And Kerr's reaction to it.

LOL @ Kerr. Didn't see his reaction on TV (at hospital), but it's pretty much as perfect as you'd expect.

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

Stephen Curry made a move today that seriously made no sense. He might be the most fun guy to watch play basketball ever.

Ok. I'm not being a blind homer if I think that. His handles, vision, and shot is crazy. I didn't get to see Magic or Pistol Pete when they were playing so can't judge Curry against those guys. However, I don't remember Jason Williams or Nash doing the #### Curry does.

Jason Williams was more gimmicky. Obviously I never saw Pistol Pete either and only remember old man Magic. Curry is a unique guy anyway. None of those guys had the jump shot that he has. The play I'm talking about was the one where he ended up with the step back three that nobody in their right mind would have launched. You just have to laugh because those are the shots that every other player gets bashed for taking.

It's also more fun I think because he's like a normal sized regular looking guy out there doing this stuff. LeBron/Davis/Durant/Westbrook types are awesome but they look like they were basketball frankenstein inventions.

I think you would have loved young Magic and young Bird. They both had 360-degree vision.

I get what you're saying about Curry, though. He's not freakishly tall or jacked, yet still regularly makes jaw dropping plays. It's like watching Nash at the peak of his powers, but Curry has an extra layer of unpredictability.

 

[Britney Spears]

Stephen Curry made a move today that seriously made no sense. He might be the most fun guy to watch play basketball ever.

Ok. I'm not being a blind homer if I think that. His handles, vision, and shot is crazy. I didn't get to see Magic or Pistol Pete when they were playing so can't judge Curry against those guys. However, I don't remember Jason Williams or Nash doing the #### Curry does.

Jason Williams was more gimmicky. Obviously I never saw Pistol Pete either and only remember old man Magic. Curry is a unique guy anyway. None of those guys had the jump shot that he has. The play I'm talking about was the one where he ended up with the step back three that nobody in their right mind would have launched. You just have to laugh because those are the shots that every other player gets bashed for taking.

It's also more fun I think because he's like a normal sized regular looking guy out there doing this stuff. LeBron/Davis/Durant/Westbrook types are awesome but they look like they were basketball frankenstein inventions.

I think you would have loved young Magic and young Bird. They both had 360-degree vision.

I get what you're saying about Curry, though. He's not freakishly tall or jacked, yet still regularly makes jaw dropping plays. It's like watching Nash at the peak of his powers, but Curry has an extra layer of unpredictability.

Larry Bird YouTube highlights are by far the most entertaining old NBA stuff for me. Love watching that stuff. I think I brought that up in here once. Honestly, I've always been unimpressed by clips of the Showtime Lakers & Magic for whatever reason. Maybe my Laker hated or I haven't seen the good stuff.

 

[Britney Spears]

PS, you are spot on though, that court vision/improv/passing stuff is definitely the most fun stuff to watch IMO.

 

[Abraham]

Say it again: Larry bird is probably one of the most underrated players of all time.

 

[popsecret]

Say it again: Larry bird is probably one of the most underrated players of all time.

That is just silly

 

[Wine Thief]

I wonder how the Clips teammates feel about Austin Rivers getting so much playing time-even with JC sitting today. At some point couldn't you just run an arena promotion where a fan plays guard for the game?

 

[SWC]

Say it again: Larry bird is probably one of the most underrated players of all time.

glad to see you back bromigo

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

Stephen Curry made a move today that seriously made no sense. He might be the most fun guy to watch play basketball ever.

Ok. I'm not being a blind homer if I think that. His handles, vision, and shot is crazy. I didn't get to see Magic or Pistol Pete when they were playing so can't judge Curry against those guys. However, I don't remember Jason Williams or Nash doing the #### Curry does.

Jason Williams was more gimmicky. Obviously I never saw Pistol Pete either and only remember old man Magic. Curry is a unique guy anyway. None of those guys had the jump shot that he has. The play I'm talking about was the one where he ended up with the step back three that nobody in their right mind would have launched. You just have to laugh because those are the shots that every other player gets bashed for taking.

It's also more fun I think because he's like a normal sized regular looking guy out there doing this stuff. LeBron/Davis/Durant/Westbrook types are awesome but they look like they were basketball frankenstein inventions.

I think you would have loved young Magic and young Bird. They both had 360-degree vision. I get what you're saying about Curry, though. He's not freakishly tall or jacked, yet still regularly makes jaw dropping plays. It's like watching Nash at the peak of his powers, but Curry has an extra layer of unpredictability.

Larry Bird YouTube highlights are by far the most entertaining old NBA stuff for me. Love watching that stuff. I think I brought that up in here once. Honestly, I've always been unimpressed by clips of the Showtime Lakers & Magic for whatever reason. Maybe my Laker hated or I haven't seen the good stuff.

It's also possible that the Magic/Showtime stuff loses some luster outside of its original context. There's a similar effect with trying to appreciate the innovations of guys like Julius Erving and David Thompson if you've already seen the work of generations of players inspired by them. Same can be said with other forms of entertainment like movies or music.And BTW, in the general NCAA hoops thread there was a run a few nights ago posting links to old college games and highlight reels. I posted a highlight tape of the first game I remember seeing Larry Bird play: a Missouri Valley conference game between Indiana State and Wichita State where Bird had 49 points and 15 rebounds. We were holding a Hank Gathers tribute in that thread and then several guys started posting links of favorite old games and players.

 

[No. 16]

Draymond destroying Dahntay Jones for post-game bump.

Easily my favorite Warrior.

 

[AAABatteries]

Jason Williams was more gimmicky. Obviously I never saw Pistol Pete either and only remember old man Magic. Curry is a unique guy anyway. None of those guys had the jump shot that he has.

Williams couldn't shoot worth #### but I thought Pistol Pete was a good shooter, no?

 

[Britney Spears]

Jason Williams was more gimmicky. Obviously I never saw Pistol Pete either and only remember old man Magic. Curry is a unique guy anyway. None of those guys had the jump shot that he has.

Williams couldn't shoot worth #### but I thought Pistol Pete was a good shooter, no?

Need an expert to weigh in here. Didn't think he even played with a 3 pt line.

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

Jason Williams was more gimmicky. Obviously I never saw Pistol Pete either and only remember old man Magic. Curry is a unique guy anyway. None of those guys had the jump shot that he has.

Williams couldn't shoot worth #### but I thought Pistol Pete was a good shooter, no?

Need an expert to weigh in here. Didn't think he even played with a 3 pt line.

White Chocolate became a decent 3-point shooter later in his career and was a very good FT shooter. His shot selection was brutal, though. A lot of contested twos.

Maravich was an outstanding long-range shooter and automatic from the line. He was a bit of a circus act, but his offensive game would translate really well to this era. He would be able to shoot/make threes in volume, and draw some fouls near the hoop. Couldn't guard anybody then and wouldn't be able to guard anybody now.

 

[thecatch]

Jason Williams was more gimmicky. Obviously I never saw Pistol Pete either and only remember old man Magic. Curry is a unique guy anyway. None of those guys had the jump shot that he has.

Williams couldn't shoot worth #### but I thought Pistol Pete was a good shooter, no?

Need an expert to weigh in here. Didn't think he even played with a 3 pt line.

White Chocolate became a decent 3-point shooter later in his career and was a very good FT shooter. His shot selection was brutal, though. A lot of contested twos.

I don't think I've ever seen a better ball handler than Williams. He could have very easily pulled off a play just like Curry's, right up to the point where the shot actually went in. He was just an absurdly reckless and exciting player when he was young. And then he matured and became a very boring, very serviceable PG in the league for a long time. What a weird career.

 

[Mr. Retukes]

Jason Williams was more gimmicky. Obviously I never saw Pistol Pete either and only remember old man Magic. Curry is a unique guy anyway. None of those guys had the jump shot that he has.

Williams couldn't shoot worth #### but I thought Pistol Pete was a good shooter, no?

Need an expert to weigh in here. Didn't think he even played with a 3 pt line.

Maravich played half a season with the 3-point line. He only took 15 3-pointers but made 10 of them.

Maravich was a career 44% shooter.

Maravich was an outstanding long-range shooter and automatic from the line.

Maravich shot 82% from the line in the pros, and 77% in college. He was good but not automatic (only finished in the top-10 once).

 

[Britney Spears]

Jason Williams was more gimmicky. Obviously I never saw Pistol Pete either and only remember old man Magic. Curry is a unique guy anyway. None of those guys had the jump shot that he has.

Williams couldn't shoot worth #### but I thought Pistol Pete was a good shooter, no?

Need an expert to weigh in here. Didn't think he even played with a 3 pt line.

White Chocolate became a decent 3-point shooter later in his career and was a very good FT shooter. His shot selection was brutal, though. A lot of contested twos.Maravich was an outstanding long-range shooter and automatic from the line. He was a bit of a circus act, but his offensive game would translate really well to this era. He would be able to shoot/make threes in volume, and draw some fouls near the hoop. Couldn't guard anybody then and wouldn't be able to guard anybody now.

How would you say he would compare to Curry as a shooter?

 

[Abraham]

12 rows from the floor at clippers and wolves. Never heard from SoCal - hope he is okay.

 

[Abraham]

Kevin Martin checks in. I'm without words.

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

Maravich shot 82% from the line in the pros, and 77% in college. He was good but not automatic (only finished in the top-10 once).

He never shot below .800 over a season and did so at high volume for a guard. He had a couple seasons where he didn't qualify for league leaders because of injuries. His last four years in the league were .835, .870, .841, and .867. He was almost always in the top 10% in FT% and made it matter more by getting to the line more often than many players at the top of FT% board.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Hassan Whiteside with some serious goonery tonight. Good Christ.

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

I don't think I've ever seen a better ball handler than Williams. He could have very easily pulled off a play just like Curry's, right up to the point where the shot actually went in. He was just an absurdly reckless and exciting player when he was young. And then he matured and became a very boring, very serviceable PG in the league for a long time. What a weird career.

His first couple years in the league, it seemed like "Did you see what Jason Williams did last night?" came up the morning after every Kings game.

 

[Abraham]

Garnett not checking in. gronkoswki gone. GRrr

 

[Frostillicus]

I don't think I've ever seen a better ball handler than Williams. He could have very easily pulled off a play just like Curry's, right up to the point where the shot actually went in. He was just an absurdly reckless and exciting player when he was young. And then he matured and became a very boring, very serviceable PG in the league for a long time. What a weird career.

His first couple years in the league, it seemed like "Did you see what Jason Williams did last night?" came up the morning after every Kings game.

Jason Williams was like a rich man's The Professor, and that's a compliment.

 

[mcintyre1]

Garnett not checking in. gronkoswki gone. GRrr

Yeah, rest game for KG. Payne played well in his stead, though.

 

[Mr. Retukes]

Maravich shot 82% from the line in the pros, and 77% in college. He was good but not automatic (only finished in the top-10 once).

He never shot below .800 over a season and did so at high volume for a guard. He had a couple seasons where he didn't qualify for league leaders because of injuries. His last four years in the league were .835, .870, .841, and .867. He was almost always in the top 10% in FT% and made it matter more by getting to the line more often than many players at the top of FT% board.

82% is not automatic.

Also, Maravich qualified for FT% every single year except for his final season, and that year he would have finished 14th.

Good, but not automatic.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Draymond destroying Dahntay Jones for post-game bump.

Easily my favorite Warrior.

He was kind to point out that when he didn't play, he was a rookie. Jones' entire career has been...nondescript.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Hassan Whiteside with some serious goonery tonight. Good Christ.

Wade not too happy with him.

 

[Routilla]

Spurs are showing signs of life. Just in time.

 

[Timmay]

Kawhi is really playing some good ball right now.

 

[simmonjm]

Damn I knew the Raptors had been struggling since ASB but didnt realize they were the worst in the ENTIRE NBA. Even the Knicks have a better record.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Damn I knew the Raptors had been struggling since ASB but didnt realize they were the worst in the ENTIRE NBA. Even the Knicks have a better record.

The playoffs in the East have lost a lot of luster since the ASB. They were obviously never gonna be as good as the West, but at least it looked like there would be two intriguing first-round matchups and both semifinal matchups would be great. Then the Wizards and Raptors completely fell apart, and Rose got hurt, and now everyone just wants to fast-forward to Atlanta vs Cleveland in the ECF.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Damn I knew the Raptors had been struggling since ASB but didnt realize they were the worst in the ENTIRE NBA. Even the Knicks have a better record.

They are who we thought they were. Everyone had them pegged around 48 wins and a 3rd/4th seed in the East. They weren't as good as their early season run and they aren't as bad as their current losing streak suggests.

Their schedule since the break has been a #####. The only game they blew was vs the Knicks. The rest of the loses were against good teams; @hou, @NO, @Dal, vs GS, vs CLE, @Cha (not a great team but they have owned Toronto for the last few years), @OKC, @SA.

 

[simmonjm]

Damn I knew the Raptors had been struggling since ASB but didnt realize they were the worst in the ENTIRE NBA. Even the Knicks have a better record.

They are who we thought they were. Everyone had them pegged around 48 wins and a 3rd/4th seed in the East. They weren't as good as their early season run and they aren't as bad as their current losing streak suggests.

Their schedule since the break has been a #####. The only game they blew was vs the Knicks. The rest of the loses were against good teams; @hou, @NO, @Dal, vs GS, vs CLE, @Cha (not a great team but they have owned Toronto for the last few years), @OKC, @SA.

Are you still confident in them winning a first round match up? I could be wrong I thought I remembered reading something by you saying that they could beat the Hawks in a first round matchup.

 

[Juxtatarot]

Damn I knew the Raptors had been struggling since ASB but didnt realize they were the worst in the ENTIRE NBA. Even the Knicks have a better record.

The playoffs in the East have lost a lot of luster since the ASB. They were obviously never gonna be as good as the West, but at least it looked like there would be two intriguing first-round matchups and both semifinal matchups would be great. Then the Wizards and Raptors completely fell apart, and Rose got hurt, and now everyone just wants to fast-forward to Atlanta vs Cleveland in the ECF.

True, but I think we'll still see some fun, competitive series. Probably, what, only about a 50/50 chance the ECF is ATL-CLE?

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Damn I knew the Raptors had been struggling since ASB but didnt realize they were the worst in the ENTIRE NBA. Even the Knicks have a better record.

They are who we thought they were. Everyone had them pegged around 48 wins and a 3rd/4th seed in the East. They weren't as good as their early season run and they aren't as bad as their current losing streak suggests.

Their schedule since the break has been a #####. The only game they blew was vs the Knicks. The rest of the loses were against good teams; @hou, @NO, @Dal, vs GS, vs CLE, @Cha (not a great team but they have owned Toronto for the last few years), @OKC, @SA.

Are you still confident in them winning a first round match up? I could be wrong I thought I remembered reading something by you saying that they could beat the Hawks in a first round matchup.

I don't think I ever said I was confident they would beat the Hawks. I said I believe they have a better chance vs the Hawks than against the Bulls or Cavs. The Bulls (assuming Butler is healthy) and Cavs would wreck them in 4 or 5. Against the Hawks, I think it would be a 6-7 game series either way.

Yes, I very much like their chances vs the Wiz in the first round. I would guess that Vegas would make them as a pretty decent favourite right now; -200ish.

Before this terrible run started, they hammered ATL, LAC, WAS and beat SA. They're slumping right now, no question. Lowry and Derozan have been, in their words, trash. The schedule lightens down the stretch (though it is road heavy) and they'll got back on track.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Damn I knew the Raptors had been struggling since ASB but didnt realize they were the worst in the ENTIRE NBA. Even the Knicks have a better record.

The playoffs in the East have lost a lot of luster since the ASB. They were obviously never gonna be as good as the West, but at least it looked like there would be two intriguing first-round matchups and both semifinal matchups would be great. Then the Wizards and Raptors completely fell apart, and Rose got hurt, and now everyone just wants to fast-forward to Atlanta vs Cleveland in the ECF.

True, but I think we'll still see some fun, competitive series. Probably, what, only about a 50/50 chance the ECF is ATL-CLE?

Hard to say- the playoffs are still 40 days away, and if perspective on the CHI/TOR/WAS group has changed this much over the last 40 days there's no reason it can't change again, either if one of them pulls it together/gets healthy or if ATL/CLE falls off. But right now I have a hard time picturing anyone knocking off ATL or CLE over a long series.

 

[Sammy3469]

Looks like the players nuked the NBA's "smoothing" proposal. 2016-17 cap should be 89-93 million if not higher.

It won't be shocking if a bunch of players look for 1 year deals this offseason.

 

[SWC]

Damn I knew the Raptors had been struggling since ASB but didnt realize they were the worst in the ENTIRE NBA. Even the Knicks have a better record.

The playoffs in the East have lost a lot of luster since the ASB. They were obviously never gonna be as good as the West, but at least it looked like there would be two intriguing first-round matchups and both semifinal matchups would be great. Then the Wizards and Raptors completely fell apart, and Rose got hurt, and now everyone just wants to fast-forward to Atlanta vs Cleveland in the ECF.

True, but I think we'll still see some fun, competitive series. Probably, what, only about a 50/50 chance the ECF is ATL-CLE?

Hard to say- the playoffs are still 40 days away, and if perspective on the CHI/TOR/WAS group has changed this much over the last 40 days there's no reason it can't change again, either if one of them pulls it together/gets healthy or if ATL/CLE falls off. But right now I have a hard time picturing anyone knocking off ATL or CLE over a long series.

always bet on bango brohan

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Damn I knew the Raptors had been struggling since ASB but didnt realize they were the worst in the ENTIRE NBA. Even the Knicks have a better record.

The playoffs in the East have lost a lot of luster since the ASB. They were obviously never gonna be as good as the West, but at least it looked like there would be two intriguing first-round matchups and both semifinal matchups would be great. Then the Wizards and Raptors completely fell apart, and Rose got hurt, and now everyone just wants to fast-forward to Atlanta vs Cleveland in the ECF.

True, but I think we'll still see some fun, competitive series. Probably, what, only about a 50/50 chance the ECF is ATL-CLE?

Hard to say- the playoffs are still 40 days away, and if perspective on the CHI/TOR/WAS group has changed this much over the last 40 days there's no reason it can't change again, either if one of them pulls it together/gets healthy or if ATL/CLE falls off. But right now I have a hard time picturing anyone knocking off ATL or CLE over a long series.

ATL isn't playing at the level they were, but no way could I take anyone in the East (save Cleveland) over them so long as they stay healthy. Chicago has a ####load more collective talent than ATL but the latter just plays so much better together. The ball is always moving in ATL and fun to watch.

 

[No. 16]

Looks like the players nuked the NBA's "smoothing" proposal. 2016-17 cap should be 89-93 million if not higher.

It won't be shocking if a bunch of players look for 1 year deals this offseason.

Wow. That's a huge jump. Gonna make for a crazy off-season. Hello superteams.

 

[Short Corner]

Looks like the players nuked the NBA's "smoothing" proposal. 2016-17 cap should be 89-93 million if not higher.

It won't be shocking if a bunch of players look for 1 year deals this offseason.

I wonder how many teams are going to be hard capped.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

lol:

http://www.csnbayarea.com/warriors/draymond-responds-doc-rivers-very-cool-story-glenn

 

[sports_fan]

2 years ago Curry broke the record for most 3 pointers in a single season with 272. Last year he had the 4th most ever in a season at 261. This season he is on pace for 275 which would break his own record. There's a pretty good chance he'll have 3 consecutive seasons all in the top 5 all time.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

2 years ago Curry broke the record for most 3 pointers in a single season with 272. Last year he had the 4th most ever in a season at 261. This season he is on pace for 275 which would break his own record. There's a pretty good chance he'll have 3 consecutive seasons all in the top 5 all time.

He's gonna hit FA during the "Spike Summer." Lucky for GS it looks like they'll have Green locked down (along with Thompson) before that.

 

[Capella]

Why is Atlanta losing to Denver by 30?

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Why is Atlanta losing to Denver by 30?

Altitude + Nugs energized by interim coach?

Hawks second unit did kick the #### out of Denver's.

 

[SWC]

nice win for bango and the boys last night but man i wish that they did not give up tobias harris i think that guy is going to be something special too bad so sad for milwaukee brohans

 

[Timmay]

nice win for bango and the boys last night but man i wish that they did not give up tobias harris i think that guy is going to be something special too bad so sad for milwaukee brohans

Middleton is underrated. It is sad he will likely be the odd man out when Parker returns with Giannis a mainstay. Middleton would be a great 3rd option on a team like the clippers.

 

[Kev4029]

Why is Atlanta losing to Denver by 30?

Altitude + Nugs energized by interim coach?

Hawks second unit did kick the #### out of Denver's.

The Nuggets are 4-2 since firing Shaw, including wins against two playoff teams. The two loses were respectable games against the Spurs and Rockets. Gallinari is playing like his 2013 self since Hunt took over, Faried is playing like the guy who got the fat contract in the offseason and started for the national team, and everybody is hitting threes. Their play has been a bit unsustainable, but the offense is being ran to the Nugget's strengths for the first time in the last two years. I'll be blown away if Shaw ever gets another head coaching job.

 

[Kev4029]

nice win for bango and the boys last night but man i wish that they did not give up tobias harris i think that guy is going to be something special too bad so sad for milwaukee brohans

Middleton is underrated. It is sad he will likely be the odd man out when Parker returns with Giannis a mainstay. Middleton would be a great 3rd option on a team like the clippers.

All three of those guys have ambiguous positions, there should be no problem getting Middleton 30 mpg in the future.