TJ Duckett and the Jets... (1 Viewer)

[citydawg]

Im hearing rumors that TJ Duckett could be traded to the Jets. I think Duckett is a RB that runs hard and is a load to bring down. He is also inconsistent. How would he fit into the Jets plan if they were to fork over the 3rd rounder it would take to get him?

 

[Bizkiteer]

Won't happen, the Falcons are trying to make their run...while they are good and they will want TJ as insurance. Yes, the rookie has looked good. There has been talk for the past year and a half that TJ might get traded and nothing ever happens. I think the reason is that ATL is not really interested in moving him.

 

[Warpig]

That's all they want is a 3rd rounder? Wow! I think he's well worth a 3rd rounder. I think he'd be great as a RB1 with a sprinkling of Cedrick and Leon to give him a breather. The guy is a ton of bricks coming through the line. With the young offensive line the jets will be showcasing Duckett may be exactly what they need since he'll be able to take a beating as well as give one and open up the intermediate passing game. Get that guy running down hill and defenses will get tired. I think that would be the best scenario for the Jets.

And no...I'm not a Duckett owner. However, I am a Norwood owner.

 

[citydawg]

That's all they want is a 3rd rounder? Wow! I think he's well worth a 3rd rounder. I think he'd be great as a RB1 with a sprinkling of Cedrick and Leon to give him a breather. The guy is a ton of bricks coming through the line. With the young offensive line the jets will be showcasing Duckett may be exactly what they need since he'll be able to take a beating as well as give one and open up the intermediate passing game. Get that guy running down hill and defenses will get tired. I think that would be the best scenario for the Jets.And no...I'm not a Duckett owner. However, I am a Norwood owner.

The Steelers are reportedly interested as well. Duckett is also in a contract year I believe.

 

[Bankerguy]

I took Duckett in the Subsriber's contest for $2...hoping deal happens to really make it value pick.

 

[SSOG]

Won't happen, the Falcons are trying to make their run...while they are good and they will want TJ as insurance. Yes, the rookie has looked good. There has been talk for the past year and a half that TJ might get traded and nothing ever happens. I think the reason is that ATL is not really interested in moving him.

ATL most certainly HAS been interested in moving him. They offered Duckett for Lelie straight up during the draft, but the Broncos shot them down.Now, whether they're STILL interested in moving him remains to be seen, but they have absolutely expressed a willingness to let him go within the last 6 months.

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

A similar discussion here.

 

[citydawg]

A similar discussion here.

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[Bizkiteer]

Won't happen, the Falcons are trying to make their run...while they are good and they will want TJ as insurance. Yes, the rookie has looked good. There has been talk for the past year and a half that TJ might get traded and nothing ever happens. I think the reason is that ATL is not really interested in moving him.

ATL most certainly HAS been interested in moving him. They offered Duckett for Lelie straight up during the draft, but the Broncos shot them down.Now, whether they're STILL interested in moving him remains to be seen, but they have absolutely expressed a willingness to let him go within the last 6 months.

That's fine, but that is before they drafted and before they got their season engine running...if you get what I'm saying. They have now prepared their team for what they want to do and they are a contender of sorts, so they can't leave themselves w/ holes for a very long season. They know Dunn is not a spring chicken and I'm sure they don't want their season riding the Norwood train because they don't really know if can do it. At least not yet and for a whole season...Thus, it just won't happen! IMO

 

[citydawg]

Won't happen, the Falcons are trying to make their run...while they are good and they will want TJ as insurance. Yes, the rookie has looked good. There has been talk for the past year and a half that TJ might get traded and nothing ever happens. I think the reason is that ATL is not really interested in moving him.

ATL most certainly HAS been interested in moving him. They offered Duckett for Lelie straight up during the draft, but the Broncos shot them down.Now, whether they're STILL interested in moving him remains to be seen, but they have absolutely expressed a willingness to let him go within the last 6 months.

That's fine, but that is before they drafted and before they got their season engine running...if you get what I'm saying. They have now prepared their team for what they want to do and they are a contender of sorts, so they can't leave themselves w/ holes for a very long season. They know Dunn is not a spring chicken and I'm sure they don't want their season riding the Norwood train because they don't really know if can do it. At least not yet and for a whole season...Thus, it just won't happen! IMO

The buzz I hear is that they are showcasing Duckett in the first few preseason games so they can deal him before he leaves via free agency nest season.

 

[Interseptopus]

I think a lot of this trade talk is exagerated...

The Jets traded a bottom of the depth chart DB for a RB who would have had just as much of a shot to earn the starting job as Houston. Who's to say they'd just give Suggs the starting RB role? We already know that he can't handle the bulk of the carries- he just can't stay healthy.

If you put this in perspective, the Jets were trying to dish off a DB who will probably be cut for a RB who may have a shot to contribute somewhat. They weren't trading for a top RB, a #1 RB, or even a situational back. They were trading for depth of their backfield... So what makes everyone think that they'd all of a sudden up their bidding for a #1 RB? Sure, there's a lot for sale out there... but what's to say that the Jets would go ahead and trade a 3rd round pick for one of these guys? Especially someone like Duckett, who thinks he's better than what he's worth. The Jets may try to resign him, but his asking price may be too high.

Let's not forget, the Jets are probably the worst team in the league, with or without Martin... and you know the Jets are thinking about that. Why trade for a RB and then have Peterson staring at you in the face at the draft next season? What do you do then... You just resigned Duckett to a ridiculous deal, then you have a stud young RB who can turn your franchise around... It just doesn't add up to me.

Don't get me wrong, I think that we very well may see the Jets make another move, but I wouldn't count on them trading a 3rd round pick...

Here's a dark horse candidate for all of you- Najeh Davenport RB Green Bay Packers... That backfield is very crowded and someone will have to go...

Aug 16 Tom Silverstein, of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, reports Green Bay Packers RB Najeh Davenport needs to take advantage of the injuries to RBs Ahman Green (quad) and Samkon Gado (groin). With those two sidelined, Davenport is the feature back and needs to prove that his injuries have not hampered his running ability. If he cannot perform well, the Packers may leave him off the final roster.

If the Packers are thinking about cutting him in favor of Heron, Gado, and Green... then why not trade him over to NY for a 5th or 6th round pick? I think he could be a servicable RB, watching him play his last 4 seasons in GB. He has been banged up here and there, but when he was given the load, there was lots of talk about him being traded to be a featured back- lots of interest. At the time he was too valuable... I don't see that now. Ted Thompson looks at draft picks as gold... I could see him looking to deal Davenport for at least anything, especially if he may end up being cut...

Those are the types of RBs you should be expecting the Jets to trade for... a serviceable RB who can come very cheap. Not a RB who will cost them a 3rd round pick... that pick is WAY too valuable for a team like the Jets. It's practically a second round pick for how bad they will be this season

 

[Bizkiteer]

I think a lot of this trade talk is exagerated...The Jets traded a bottom of the depth chart DB for a RB who would have had just as much of a shot to earn the starting job as Houston. Who's to say they'd just give Suggs the starting RB role? We already know that he can't handle the bulk of the carries- he just can't stay healthy.If you put this in perspective, the Jets were trying to dish off a DB who will probably be cut for a RB who may have a shot to contribute somewhat. They weren't trading for a top RB, a #1 RB, or even a situational back. They were trading for depth of their backfield... So what makes everyone think that they'd all of a sudden up their bidding for a #1 RB? Sure, there's a lot for sale out there... but what's to say that the Jets would go ahead and trade a 3rd round pick for one of these guys? Especially someone like Duckett, who thinks he's better than what he's worth. The Jets may try to resign him, but his asking price may be too high. Let's not forget, the Jets are probably the worst team in the league, with or without Martin... and you know the Jets are thinking about that. Why trade for a RB and then have Peterson staring at you in the face at the draft next season? What do you do then... You just resigned Duckett to a ridiculous deal, then you have a stud young RB who can turn your franchise around... It just doesn't add up to me. Don't get me wrong, I think that we very well may see the Jets make another move, but I wouldn't count on them trading a 3rd round pick...Here's a dark horse candidate for all of you- Najeh Davenport RB Green Bay Packers... That backfield is very crowded and someone will have to go...Aug 16 Tom Silverstein, of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, reports Green Bay Packers RB Najeh Davenport needs to take advantage of the injuries to RBs Ahman Green (quad) and Samkon Gado (groin). With those two sidelined, Davenport is the feature back and needs to prove that his injuries have not hampered his running ability. If he cannot perform well, the Packers may leave him off the final roster. If the Packers are thinking about cutting him in favor of Heron, Gado, and Green... then why not trade him over to NY for a 5th or 6th round pick? I think he could be a servicable RB, watching him play his last 4 seasons in GB. He has been banged up here and there, but when he was given the load, there was lots of talk about him being traded to be a featured back- lots of interest. At the time he was too valuable... I don't see that now. Ted Thompson looks at draft picks as gold... I could see him looking to deal Davenport for at least anything, especially if he may end up being cut...Those are the types of RBs you should be expecting the Jets to trade for... a serviceable RB who can come very cheap. Not a RB who will cost them a 3rd round pick... that pick is WAY too valuable for a team like the Jets. It's practically a second round pick for how bad they will be this season

Well said! Also, nice one with the Davenport guess. Cheaper RB's would surely be more likely, especially since they think Cedric Houston can contribute. He is the type of back that I think they do acquire, a RB that can help, but doesn't cost them much of anything.

 

[ExaltedOne]

Let's not forget, the Jets are probably the worst team in the league, with or without Martin... and you know the Jets are thinking about that. Why trade for a RB and then have Peterson staring at you in the face at the draft next season? What do you do then... You just resigned Duckett to a ridiculous deal, then you have a stud young RB who can turn your franchise around... It just doesn't add up to me.

I seriously doubt that Duckett will command a large contract. He should be able to be resigned fairly cheap.

 

[Boone22]

My Nostradamus prediction...

Duckett for McCareins

***no basis in fact I just like the idea of it***

 

[Interseptopus]

Let's not forget, the Jets are probably the worst team in the league, with or without Martin... and you know the Jets are thinking about that. Why trade for a RB and then have Peterson staring at you in the face at the draft next season? What do you do then... You just resigned Duckett to a ridiculous deal, then you have a stud young RB who can turn your franchise around... It just doesn't add up to me.

I seriously doubt that Duckett will command a large contract. He should be able to be resigned fairly cheap.

I disagreeHe was drafted in the first round, and has made it known that he desires to be a #1 back. I'm not sure if it was this offseason or last... but he was saying how he's not a good fit for the ATL offense and wanted to be traded to a team that he could be a #1 RB for. He hasn't made a stink because he realizes that he's close to FA, and I'm sure he's aware that the Falcons have shopped him, but their asking price is very high. And why shouldn't it be- they need him for the role that he does fill and they hold all the leverage- it's a seller's market. While Duckett may resign cheaper than most starting backs out there, he's not going to sign for backup money. Look at LaMont Jordan and Chester Taylor... while they didn't break the bank, they definately left their current situations as a backup for startable money- and I think Duckett has much more potential than those 2. I highly doubt that the Jets would be willing to sign Duckett to such a deal, only to find themselves with a top 3 pick and a chance at the #1 RB. Talk about putting all your eggs in one basket... I don't see them with Duckett, or a RB equal to his talent, and a 1st round RB next season, and I definately don't see them with Pennington, Ramsey, and Clemens next year either. Too much money at one position. Of course, I can see them trading for Duckett if they can resign him to a 3 year deal, including this season... but I'm sure Duckett won't agree to that. He's in his "prime" at 26 years old. The last thing he wants to do is be 29 and a free agent... It just doesnt make sense to me for the Jets to trade for a RB like Duckett for such a valued pick when there's much better options out there for a 5-6th round pick. Especially when they are looking at a top 3 pick next season (Adrian Peterson), they haven't shown that much agressiveness in trading so far (Duckett is head and shoulders above Suggs), and when they really can't afford to lose that 3rd round pick- which is practically a low second rounder. People in this forum value 3rd round draft picks so low. This isn't Madden people... 3rd round draft picks are expected to contribute, sometimes immediately. For the record- Barlow makes more sense than Duckett... I can see that trade happening. I think he'll be much cheaper... but that doesn't make much sense for SF either, as Gore is hardly a proven back.

 

[Klecko HOF]

I think a lot of this trade talk is exagerated...The Jets traded a bottom of the depth chart DB for a RB who would have had just as much of a shot to earn the starting job as Houston. Who's to say they'd just give Suggs the starting RB role? We already know that he can't handle the bulk of the carries- he just can't stay healthy.If you put this in perspective, the Jets were trying to dish off a DB who will probably be cut for a RB who may have a shot to contribute somewhat. They weren't trading for a top RB, a #1 RB, or even a situational back. They were trading for depth of their backfield... So what makes everyone think that they'd all of a sudden up their bidding for a #1 RB? Sure, there's a lot for sale out there... but what's to say that the Jets would go ahead and trade a 3rd round pick for one of these guys? Especially someone like Duckett, who thinks he's better than what he's worth. The Jets may try to resign him, but his asking price may be too high. Let's not forget, the Jets are probably the worst team in the league, with or without Martin... and you know the Jets are thinking about that. Why trade for a RB and then have Peterson staring at you in the face at the draft next season? What do you do then... You just resigned Duckett to a ridiculous deal, then you have a stud young RB who can turn your franchise around... It just doesn't add up to me. Don't get me wrong, I think that we very well may see the Jets make another move, but I wouldn't count on them trading a 3rd round pick...Here's a dark horse candidate for all of you- Najeh Davenport RB Green Bay Packers... That backfield is very crowded and someone will have to go...Aug 16 Tom Silverstein, of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, reports Green Bay Packers RB Najeh Davenport needs to take advantage of the injuries to RBs Ahman Green (quad) and Samkon Gado (groin). With those two sidelined, Davenport is the feature back and needs to prove that his injuries have not hampered his running ability. If he cannot perform well, the Packers may leave him off the final roster. If the Packers are thinking about cutting him in favor of Heron, Gado, and Green... then why not trade him over to NY for a 5th or 6th round pick? I think he could be a servicable RB, watching him play his last 4 seasons in GB. He has been banged up here and there, but when he was given the load, there was lots of talk about him being traded to be a featured back- lots of interest. At the time he was too valuable... I don't see that now. Ted Thompson looks at draft picks as gold... I could see him looking to deal Davenport for at least anything, especially if he may end up being cut...Those are the types of RBs you should be expecting the Jets to trade for... a serviceable RB who can come very cheap. Not a RB who will cost them a 3rd round pick... that pick is WAY too valuable for a team like the Jets. It's practically a second round pick for how bad they will be this season

Jesus H. Christ, someone finally got it. This is a new regime and the coaching staff/management understand the value of draft picks. The Jets should not be expected to improve much in the standings and are learning a new offense and defense. Mangini needs to evaluate what he has and does not have on the team. To expect him to trade first day picks for journeymen or question marks, like Chris Brown, Travis Henry etc is ridiculous.The Jets will address their running back situation via the draft come April. They will sign a hold the forte kind of back to supplement their current roster and enter the 07 draft with a wish list for a running back, nose tackle, etc. The likelihood that the Jets will be able to draft someone like Adrian Peterson is a real possibility. It makes no sense to use a 3rd round pick on TJ Duckett, not when this team can possibly draft the best running back in college and still need picks to plug holes.

 

[M & M]

Just throwing this out there with Mewlde Moore sliding down the depth chart in Minny and Koren Robinson being in rehab. What about McCarins to Minn for Moore. Not saying Moore is a world beater, but would definatly add depth to the situation for a player that Manginini seems to hate.

 

[Interseptopus]

M&M I was just going to post that myself. Moore is a possibility to be moved. Yeah, unlikely, but he's another someone that the Jets may look at... Also they may look at JJ Arrington, Shipp, Pittman, maybe even Duce Staley, Ron Dayne...

Yeah, granted a lot of those RBs are washed up or no good... but the Jets aren't looking to make the superbowl. That's obvious with their first 2 picks being lineman and taking a QB round 2.... they are looking to the future. All they need is a RB who may come in and help their group of guys this season; they don't need a miracle man.

Glad to see others agree... now I know I'm not crazy... that I actually DO make sense

 

[Gandalf]

KFFL: Jets | Team not likely to trade for Barlow

Fri, 18 Aug 2006 06:10:14 -0700

The New York Daily News San Francisco 49ers head coach Mike Nolan confirmed talks with the New York Jets about the availability of RB Kevan Barlow, but he said the discussions weren't serious and he assured Barlow he wasn't going to be traded.

 

[perry147]

I think a lot of this trade talk is exagerated...

The Jets traded a bottom of the depth chart DB for a RB who would have had just as much of a shot to earn the starting job as Houston. Who's to say they'd just give Suggs the starting RB role? We already know that he can't handle the bulk of the carries- he just can't stay healthy.

If you put this in perspective, the Jets were trying to dish off a DB who will probably be cut for a RB who may have a shot to contribute somewhat. They weren't trading for a top RB, a #1 RB, or even a situational back. They were trading for depth of their backfield... So what makes everyone think that they'd all of a sudden up their bidding for a #1 RB? Sure, there's a lot for sale out there... but what's to say that the Jets would go ahead and trade a 3rd round pick for one of these guys? Especially someone like Duckett, who thinks he's better than what he's worth. The Jets may try to resign him, but his asking price may be too high.

Let's not forget, the Jets are probably the worst team in the league, with or without Martin... and you know the Jets are thinking about that. Why trade for a RB and then have Peterson staring at you in the face at the draft next season? What do you do then... You just resigned Duckett to a ridiculous deal, then you have a stud young RB who can turn your franchise around... It just doesn't add up to me.

Don't get me wrong, I think that we very well may see the Jets make another move, but I wouldn't count on them trading a 3rd round pick...

Here's a dark horse candidate for all of you- Najeh Davenport RB Green Bay Packers... That backfield is very crowded and someone will have to go...

Aug 16 Tom Silverstein, of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, reports Green Bay Packers RB Najeh Davenport needs to take advantage of the injuries to RBs Ahman Green (quad) and Samkon Gado (groin). With those two sidelined, Davenport is the feature back and needs to prove that his injuries have not hampered his running ability. If he cannot perform well, the Packers may leave him off the final roster.

If the Packers are thinking about cutting him in favor of Heron, Gado, and Green... then why not trade him over to NY for a 5th or 6th round pick? I think he could be a servicable RB, watching him play his last 4 seasons in GB. He has been banged up here and there, but when he was given the load, there was lots of talk about him being traded to be a featured back- lots of interest. At the time he was too valuable... I don't see that now. Ted Thompson looks at draft picks as gold... I could see him looking to deal Davenport for at least anything, especially if he may end up being cut...

Those are the types of RBs you should be expecting the Jets to trade for... a serviceable RB who can come very cheap. Not a RB who will cost them a 3rd round pick... that pick is WAY too valuable for a team like the Jets. It's practically a second round pick for how bad they will be this season

Jesus H. Christ, someone finally got it.

This is a new regime and the coaching staff/management understand the value of draft picks. The Jets should not be expected to improve much in the standings and are learning a new offense and defense. Mangini needs to evaluate what he has and does not have on the team. To expect him to trade first day picks for journeymen or question marks, like Chris Brown, Travis Henry etc is ridiculous.

The Jets will address their running back situation via the draft come April. They will sign a hold the forte kind of back to supplement their current roster and enter the 07 draft with a wish list for a running back, nose tackle, etc. The likelihood that the Jets will be able to draft someone like Adrian Peterson is a real possibility. It makes no sense to use a 3rd round pick on TJ Duckett, not when this team can possibly draft the best running back in college and still need picks to plug holes.

I have never understood why the Jets didn't make a serious run at the Texans for Bush.

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

August 18, 2006, 07:42 Jets, Falcons :: RBRB Duckett Posturing For Trade?Rich Cimini, New York Daily News - [Full Article]One player on the Jets' radar, Falcons backup RB T.J. Duckett, sounded as if he's lobbying for a trade. "I'm looking for a big year with some breakout runs," Duckett told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. "I want to get it out there that I want to be a feature back." --------------------------------------------------------------------------------August 18, 2006, 07:26 Falcons :: RBRB Duckett To Start, Possible Showcase For Trade?Steve Wyche, Atlanta Journal-Constitution - [Full Article]RB T.J. Duckett will start and play at least the first quarter in Saturday's exhibition at Green Bay. Duckett remains a possible trade option. The Falcons intend to groom RB Jerious Norwood to replace Duckett, who is in the last year of his contract.

There's also a blurb on the blogger about the Jets being interested in Ced Cobbs.

 

[Otis]

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

Why so blue, panda bear?

 

[Bri]

The Steelers are reportedly interested as well. Duckett is also in a contract year I believe.

I think the Steelers O is better suited to Duckett than the O I think the Jets will be using in 06.That said, IIRC last year the Steelers inquired about Duckett but didn't get him.I've been told Barlow's style(not a good North South runner) is what Nolan doesn't like and otherwise Nolan thinks he's a good talented back. I think Barlow is more likely to be traded than Duckett. The other reason is Atlanta has seemed tough to trade with lately, from what I've read. Teams wanted Schaub but they wouldn't negotiate and wanted a high pick. Jets Abe trade was almost dead til the Jets conceded completely. If Vick IS their future then they should trade Schaub while he commands a good pick in return. They haven't and that makes sense to me. To think Duckett makes sense so they'll move him...well it never happenned with Schaub so why would it happen with Duckett?

 

[Z-Dog]

I don't think Atlanta has been difficult to trade with as much as they haven't been willing to part with guys they value highly. I don't think Atlanta has decided whether Vick is the future, and imo he could be gone as early as next year. Whether he is or he isn't we all agree that in Atlanta in particular, you need a backup who can win games consistently. Schaub is that guy, and as such, he's worth a lot to the Falcons. They were willing to deal with both NYJ and Devner to get John Abraham. I just don't think Atlanta is interested in moving Duckett. He's an important part of their offense, and they don't have anyone else on the roster with his skill set.

 

[Klecko HOF]

I think a lot of this trade talk is exagerated...

The Jets traded a bottom of the depth chart DB for a RB who would have had just as much of a shot to earn the starting job as Houston. Who's to say they'd just give Suggs the starting RB role? We already know that he can't handle the bulk of the carries- he just can't stay healthy.

If you put this in perspective, the Jets were trying to dish off a DB who will probably be cut for a RB who may have a shot to contribute somewhat. They weren't trading for a top RB, a #1 RB, or even a situational back. They were trading for depth of their backfield... So what makes everyone think that they'd all of a sudden up their bidding for a #1 RB? Sure, there's a lot for sale out there... but what's to say that the Jets would go ahead and trade a 3rd round pick for one of these guys? Especially someone like Duckett, who thinks he's better than what he's worth. The Jets may try to resign him, but his asking price may be too high.

Let's not forget, the Jets are probably the worst team in the league, with or without Martin... and you know the Jets are thinking about that. Why trade for a RB and then have Peterson staring at you in the face at the draft next season? What do you do then... You just resigned Duckett to a ridiculous deal, then you have a stud young RB who can turn your franchise around... It just doesn't add up to me.

Don't get me wrong, I think that we very well may see the Jets make another move, but I wouldn't count on them trading a 3rd round pick...

Here's a dark horse candidate for all of you- Najeh Davenport RB Green Bay Packers... That backfield is very crowded and someone will have to go...

Aug 16 Tom Silverstein, of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, reports Green Bay Packers RB Najeh Davenport needs to take advantage of the injuries to RBs Ahman Green (quad) and Samkon Gado (groin). With those two sidelined, Davenport is the feature back and needs to prove that his injuries have not hampered his running ability. If he cannot perform well, the Packers may leave him off the final roster.

If the Packers are thinking about cutting him in favor of Heron, Gado, and Green... then why not trade him over to NY for a 5th or 6th round pick? I think he could be a servicable RB, watching him play his last 4 seasons in GB. He has been banged up here and there, but when he was given the load, there was lots of talk about him being traded to be a featured back- lots of interest. At the time he was too valuable... I don't see that now. Ted Thompson looks at draft picks as gold... I could see him looking to deal Davenport for at least anything, especially if he may end up being cut...

Those are the types of RBs you should be expecting the Jets to trade for... a serviceable RB who can come very cheap. Not a RB who will cost them a 3rd round pick... that pick is WAY too valuable for a team like the Jets. It's practically a second round pick for how bad they will be this season

Jesus H. Christ, someone finally got it.

This is a new regime and the coaching staff/management understand the value of draft picks. The Jets should not be expected to improve much in the standings and are learning a new offense and defense. Mangini needs to evaluate what he has and does not have on the team. To expect him to trade first day picks for journeymen or question marks, like Chris Brown, Travis Henry etc is ridiculous.

The Jets will address their running back situation via the draft come April. They will sign a hold the forte kind of back to supplement their current roster and enter the 07 draft with a wish list for a running back, nose tackle, etc. The likelihood that the Jets will be able to draft someone like Adrian Peterson is a real possibility. It makes no sense to use a 3rd round pick on TJ Duckett, not when this team can possibly draft the best running back in college and still need picks to plug holes.

I have never understood why the Jets didn't make a serious run at the Texans for Bush.

Perry, it's simple. The Jets are in rebuild mode and in need of players. There were rumors that the Jets would have had to part with both #1's, plus a 2nd or 3rd to move up with N.O. or pry Bush from them, while other had the Jets handing over both #1's, plus their #1 in 07. That is far too costly a move. Even if the Jets had pulled the trigger on the deal, Bush would have had to run behind an exposed offensive line, and the Jets would have had to scramble to find players at other positions.

Again, it comes down to value. To move up with Houston or New Orleans would have cost too high a price. Had the Jets not needed so much help, then yes, maybe I could see the trade, but they did the right thing.

You cannot mortage your future for one player. It is illogical. I applaud NY for not pulling a trigger on the deal. By sticking to their guns NY has been able to rebuild their line with the best tackle and center in college, drafted a nice prospect at qb in Kellen Clemens, and filled some holes in other areas.

Maybe the Jets may have missed out on a great player, but this is not certain. What I do know is that the Jets have now addressed some areas of serious need and can fill the other holes next April. The Patriots were not built this way, not were the Giants teams under Parcells. Eric Mangini comes from this same coaching tree and believes in this.

 

[Interseptopus]

I think a lot of this trade talk is exagerated...

The Jets traded a bottom of the depth chart DB for a RB who would have had just as much of a shot to earn the starting job as Houston. Who's to say they'd just give Suggs the starting RB role? We already know that he can't handle the bulk of the carries- he just can't stay healthy.

If you put this in perspective, the Jets were trying to dish off a DB who will probably be cut for a RB who may have a shot to contribute somewhat. They weren't trading for a top RB, a #1 RB, or even a situational back. They were trading for depth of their backfield... So what makes everyone think that they'd all of a sudden up their bidding for a #1 RB? Sure, there's a lot for sale out there... but what's to say that the Jets would go ahead and trade a 3rd round pick for one of these guys? Especially someone like Duckett, who thinks he's better than what he's worth. The Jets may try to resign him, but his asking price may be too high.

Let's not forget, the Jets are probably the worst team in the league, with or without Martin... and you know the Jets are thinking about that. Why trade for a RB and then have Peterson staring at you in the face at the draft next season? What do you do then... You just resigned Duckett to a ridiculous deal, then you have a stud young RB who can turn your franchise around... It just doesn't add up to me.

Don't get me wrong, I think that we very well may see the Jets make another move, but I wouldn't count on them trading a 3rd round pick...

Here's a dark horse candidate for all of you- Najeh Davenport RB Green Bay Packers... That backfield is very crowded and someone will have to go...

Aug 16 Tom Silverstein, of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, reports Green Bay Packers RB Najeh Davenport needs to take advantage of the injuries to RBs Ahman Green (quad) and Samkon Gado (groin). With those two sidelined, Davenport is the feature back and needs to prove that his injuries have not hampered his running ability. If he cannot perform well, the Packers may leave him off the final roster.

If the Packers are thinking about cutting him in favor of Heron, Gado, and Green... then why not trade him over to NY for a 5th or 6th round pick? I think he could be a servicable RB, watching him play his last 4 seasons in GB. He has been banged up here and there, but when he was given the load, there was lots of talk about him being traded to be a featured back- lots of interest. At the time he was too valuable... I don't see that now. Ted Thompson looks at draft picks as gold... I could see him looking to deal Davenport for at least anything, especially if he may end up being cut...

Those are the types of RBs you should be expecting the Jets to trade for... a serviceable RB who can come very cheap. Not a RB who will cost them a 3rd round pick... that pick is WAY too valuable for a team like the Jets. It's practically a second round pick for how bad they will be this season

Jesus H. Christ, someone finally got it.

This is a new regime and the coaching staff/management understand the value of draft picks. The Jets should not be expected to improve much in the standings and are learning a new offense and defense. Mangini needs to evaluate what he has and does not have on the team. To expect him to trade first day picks for journeymen or question marks, like Chris Brown, Travis Henry etc is ridiculous.

The Jets will address their running back situation via the draft come April. They will sign a hold the forte kind of back to supplement their current roster and enter the 07 draft with a wish list for a running back, nose tackle, etc. The likelihood that the Jets will be able to draft someone like Adrian Peterson is a real possibility. It makes no sense to use a 3rd round pick on TJ Duckett, not when this team can possibly draft the best running back in college and still need picks to plug holes.

I have never understood why the Jets didn't make a serious run at the Texans for Bush.

Perry, it's simple. The Jets are in rebuild mode and in need of players. There were rumors that the Jets would have had to part with both #1's, plus a 2nd or 3rd to move up with N.O. or pry Bush from them, while other had the Jets handing over both #1's, plus their #1 in 07. That is far too costly a move. Even if the Jets had pulled the trigger on the deal, Bush would have had to run behind an exposed offensive line, and the Jets would have had to scramble to find players at other positions.

Again, it comes down to value. To move up with Houston or New Orleans would have cost too high a price. Had the Jets not needed so much help, then yes, maybe I could see the trade, but they did the right thing.

You cannot mortage your future for one player. It is illogical. I applaud NY for not pulling a trigger on the deal. By sticking to their guns NY has been able to rebuild their line with the best tackle and center in college, drafted a nice prospect at qb in Kellen Clemens, and filled some holes in other areas.

Maybe the Jets may have missed out on a great player, but this is not certain. What I do know is that the Jets have now addressed some areas of serious need and can fill the other holes next April. The Patriots were not built this way, not were the Giants teams under Parcells. Eric Mangini comes from this same coaching tree and believes in this.

I think they were brilliant in their move to bolster their line. Now their line has a year to gel, and then next year when they bring in a rookie RB (or sigh one in FA), they can pair him up with Clemens (maybe), and they'll be behind one of the better OL in the game. I think they made a fantastic move. It all starts with the offensive line. You can't have a good offense without one

What good is Reggie Bush when he's on the IR with a torn ACL becasue his OL couldn't block sufficiantly for him

 

[M & M]

Ro3384 Thanks for the afirmation. I just read an article on the Blogger that McCariens would cost 4 mil against the cap if he is traded. That's the prorated remainder from his 6 mil signing bonus. But I still think that Moore would be the cheapest option for the Jets.

 

[Boone22]

My Nostradamus prediction...Duckett for McCareins***no basis in fact I just like the idea of it***

Maybe I am Nostradamus?Jets | McCareins for Duckett deal?Fri, 18 Aug 2006 19:43:03 -0700Steve Wyche, of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, reports at least four teams have called the Atlanta Falcons seeking to trade for RB T.J. Duckett, according to two people with knowledge of the situation. The two sources confirmed that the New York Jets have contacted the Falcons, with recently demoted WR Justin McCareins possibly being involved in the potential trade. The Falcons are looking for a No. 3 wide receiver, but have not confirmed any trade talks.

 

[Kiddnets]

If Tangini pull off a Mac for Duckett deal I would be impressed.

If Tangini got a bag of balls for Mac I would be impressed!!

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

August 19, 2006, 13:26Jets, Falcons :: RB, WRFalcons Considering Trading DuckettSteve Wyche, Atlanta Journal Constitution - [Full Article]According to sources, at least four teams have contacted the Atlanta Falcons about possibly acquiring running back T.J. Duckett. The sources would only confirm the New York Jets as one of the teams with a possible Justin McCareins-for-Duckett scenario seeming likely since the Falcons are in the market for a No. 3 wide receiver. No trade involving Duckett is expected before Saturday's pre-season game against Green Bay, which he is expected to start.

 

[Interseptopus]

This would be a GREAT trade for the Jets. Duckett would be okay, as long as they don't give up a 3rd round draft pick

 

[Traders2001]

I cant understand why the Jets would be interested in Duckett he has been in the league 4 or 5 years and could not get the starting job over Dunn.

He is no better than Houston i am certain, give the kid a chance you wont win this year aniways.

And they are not upgrading with Duckett unless they get him as a back up.

 

[Moniker]

I cant understand why the Jets would be interested in Duckett he has been in the league 4 or 5 years and could not get the starting job over Dunn.

I think you, like most people that I've seen, underestimate how good Warrick Dunn really is.

 

[CrossEyed]

August 19, 2006, 13:26Jets, Falcons :: RB, WRFalcons Considering Trading DuckettSteve Wyche, Atlanta Journal Constitution - [Full Article]According to sources, at least four teams have contacted the Atlanta Falcons about possibly acquiring running back T.J. Duckett. The sources would only confirm the New York Jets as one of the teams with a possible Justin McCareins-for-Duckett scenario seeming likely since the Falcons are in the market for a No. 3 wide receiver. No trade involving Duckett is expected before Saturday's pre-season game against Green Bay, which he is expected to start.

Hmmm, I wonder if the Steelers are one of those 4. They seem to have an abundance of WRs this year.

 

[Cookiemonster]

They are. They were trying to get a draft-day deal done for him, but Atl wanted a 3rd round pick for him. Too steep for Rooney at the time. If their demand lowers a little it may work out, but there are a handfull of big backs in next year's draft.

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

Jesus.

August 20, 2006, 11:41Jets, Falcons :: RBJets, 16 Other Teams Are Scouting RB DuckettSteve Wyche, Atlanta Journal-Constitution - [Full Article]Scouts for the New York Jets as well as sixteen other teams also interested in RB T.J. Duckett scouted the Falcons-Packers game. "T.J. is here to play football," Falcon quarterback Michael Vick said. "As long as he's here, he's going to do what's best for the team.

 

[-OZ-]

Jesus.

August 20, 2006, 11:41

Jets, Falcons :: RB

Jets, 16 Other Teams Are Scouting RB Duckett

Steve Wyche, Atlanta Journal-Constitution - [Full Article]

Scouts for the New York Jets as well as sixteen other teams also interested in RB T.J. Duckett scouted the Falcons-Packers game. "T.J. is here to play football," Falcon quarterback Michael Vick said. "As long as he's here, he's going to do what's best for the team.

Half the freakin' league? How many of those are willing to give value?

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

Jesus.

August 20, 2006, 11:41

Jets, Falcons :: RB

Jets, 16 Other Teams Are Scouting RB Duckett

Steve Wyche, Atlanta Journal-Constitution - [Full Article]

Scouts for the New York Jets as well as sixteen other teams also interested in RB T.J. Duckett scouted the Falcons-Packers game. "T.J. is here to play football," Falcon quarterback Michael Vick said. "As long as he's here, he's going to do what's best for the team.

Half the freakin' league? How many of those are willing to give value?

You'd think, if the Falcons are actually shopping him, that they'd be able to find good value from one of these teams.

 

[-OZ-]

Jesus.

August 20, 2006, 11:41

Jets, Falcons :: RB

Jets, 16 Other Teams Are Scouting RB Duckett

Steve Wyche, Atlanta Journal-Constitution - [Full Article]

Scouts for the New York Jets as well as sixteen other teams also interested in RB T.J. Duckett scouted the Falcons-Packers game. "T.J. is here to play football," Falcon quarterback Michael Vick said. "As long as he's here, he's going to do what's best for the team.

Half the freakin' league? How many of those are willing to give value?

You'd think, if the Falcons are actually shopping him, that they'd be able to find good value from one of these teams.

I would hope so. What did Michael Bennet go for? Seems comparable.

 

[Couch Potato]

Jesus.

August 20, 2006, 11:41

Jets, Falcons :: RB

Jets, 16 Other Teams Are Scouting RB Duckett

Steve Wyche, Atlanta Journal-Constitution - [Full Article]

Scouts for the New York Jets as well as sixteen other teams also interested in RB T.J. Duckett scouted the Falcons-Packers game. "T.J. is here to play football," Falcon quarterback Michael Vick said. "As long as he's here, he's going to do what's best for the team.

Half the freakin' league? How many of those are willing to give value?

Nah. They were all in Green Bay just for the sheer excitement and joy of a Packers-Falcons preseason game. Or maybe the bratwurst.

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

Jesus.

August 20, 2006, 11:41

Jets, Falcons :: RB

Jets, 16 Other Teams Are Scouting RB Duckett

Steve Wyche, Atlanta Journal-Constitution - [Full Article]

Scouts for the New York Jets as well as sixteen other teams also interested in RB T.J. Duckett scouted the Falcons-Packers game. "T.J. is here to play football," Falcon quarterback Michael Vick said. "As long as he's here, he's going to do what's best for the team.

Half the freakin' league? How many of those are willing to give value?

You'd think, if the Falcons are actually shopping him, that they'd be able to find good value from one of these teams.

I would hope so. What did Michael Bennet go for? Seems comparable.

I'm not finding it. This is all I've got:

The Saints traded Bennett for an undisclosed choice in the 2007 NFL draft.

 

[Couch Potato]

Bennett went for a 4th.

 

[cws3030]

Bennett went for a 4th.

i think ATL wants a 2nd but i'm sure they'd take a 3rd from the Jets.

 

[Z-Dog]

Talk is that the Jets would trade Justin McCareins for Duckett. Kinda makes sense - the Falcons need a WR3 who will give them some of the things that Brian Finneran brought them. McCareins can do that, and he's a young player who is also notable for being a great blocker in the running game. I imagine the Jets would have to throw in a conditional pick of some kind to go with McCareins, but it makes more sense than the Jets giving up a first-day pick.

 

[wannabee]

Talk is that the Jets would trade Justin McCareins for Duckett. Kinda makes sense - the Falcons need a WR3 who will give them some of the things that Brian Finneran brought them. McCareins can do that, and he's a young player who is also notable for being a great blocker in the running game. I imagine the Jets would have to throw in a conditional pick of some kind to go with McCareins, but it makes more sense than the Jets giving up a first-day pick.

I read where Strait may be part of the deal, too