**TNF on Prime - Broncos 9-5 at Chargers 8-6** (-2.5, 41.5) 8:15 (1 Viewer)

[rockaction]

Al is actually right. We’ve been treated to utterly insane catches these past few years. The receivers are allowed to play and are better than ever. The pay scale reflects how important they are. The ground game is virtually dead outside of Barkley and Henry and a few select others.

Denver doesn’t seem like a quick strike team, so I’m watching for a drive here. They’re bleeding the clock and trying to run and throw screens.

JIm, it’s not grounding. He can do that.

 

[TheAristocrat]

Herbstreit getting his talking points from this thread

 

[rockaction]

And Herbie agrees with me. Denver doesn’t push the ball downfield at all.

 

[VikingFrog]

He had him deep!

 

[SengerCJ]

flag…?

 

[travdogg]

Had Sutton for 25+ or Mims for a TD, and Nix airmailed it.

Very good no-call.

 

[rockaction]

So much for not pushing the ball downfield. He was wide open. Now I know why they don’t push the ball. Nix can’t throw it.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Under threw mims for 6

 

[fatness]

Way underthrown to Mims.

 

[Jppaul]

Under threw mims for 6

Should have been PI

 

[efactor]

flag…?

Not for the Broncos

 

[VikingFrog]

So much for not pushing the ball downfield. He was wide open. Now I know why they don’t push the ball. Nix can’t throw it.

I’ve watched him all year and your last statement is not true.

Though technically true for that specific throw.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Under threw mims for 6

Should have been PI

I thought it was a good no call in real time

 

[travdogg]

flag…?

Not for the Broncos

Feel like the calls have balanced out a lot in the 2nd half.

I think no flag there is the right call. Shouldn't reward QBs for garbage throws.

 

[Mongidig]

It looks like the Bengals are gonna make the playoffs.

I feel like the rest of the AFC is rooting against that. Defense is awful, but Burrow and co. can drop 40 on anyone, anytime.

It’s a done deal. The Broncos will lose their last three and the Bengals will win their last three. I’ve seen this played out before. Paytons stupid play calling at the end of the half and Nix missing Mims sealed it.

 

[Todem]

Huge drive here for the Bolts.

 

[rockaction]

I’ve watched him all year and your last statement is not true.

Though technically true for that specific throw.

I probably haven’t gotten the chance to watch him quite as much. Jets game, KC game, this game, and another.

I haven’t seen any deep ball prowess, but I’ll defer and watch more of him.

eta* Sounds like people were pretty universally questioning his arm strength, especially before the combine and draft, and some contrarians think he’s answered the critics with combine and this season. Huh. We will see. Because that throw was a duck. And some of the throws they’re presented as counter-evidence don’t travel over forty yards in the air. So color me skeptical.

 

[Todem]

Jeez that OL…..gotta improve that asap.

 

[rockaction]

The Broncos will lose their last three and the Bengals will win their last three

They’ve got to go right through the Bengals. And don’t get too far down on the Broncos. This is the Chargers we’re talking about. 6:41 left.

 

[efactor]

flag…?

Not for the Broncos

Feel like the calls have balanced out a lot in the 2nd half.

I think no flag there is the right call. Shouldn't reward QBs for garbage throws.

LOL. So you can commit PI with no penalty if the throw is bad? Doesn't seem to work that way for all teams.

 

[Uncle Leo]

This game will probably go to OT.

 

[travdogg]

flag…?

Not for the Broncos

Feel like the calls have balanced out a lot in the 2nd half.

I think no flag there is the right call. Shouldn't reward QBs for garbage throws.

LOL. So you can commit PI with no penalty if the throw is bad? Doesn't seem to work that way for all teams.

I'm saying that wasn't anywhere near egregious enough of contact to warrant a flag when the throw was so awful. The throw took the players into contact. That's not a flag unless its clear, no-brainer PI, which that wasn't.

 

[VikingFrog]

I’ve watched him all year and your last statement is not true.

Though technically true for that specific throw.

I probably haven’t gotten the chance to watch him quite as much. Jets game, KC game, this game, and another.

I haven’t seen any deep ball prowess, but I’ll defer and watch more of him.

I’m not trying to get into an argument. He’s thrown some pretty deep balls this year. Some ugly ones too. And that was one of them.

You aren’t wrong.

 

[Penguin]

Amazing the Chargers are as good as they are with no real RB1, no WR2 (Johnston & Palmer are #3-4's) no TE1 and some OL issues. Great defense but Harbough & culture.

 

[travdogg]

Good decision to punt there. Going for it and failing would have been killer, but something I think many coaches would have done.

 

[fatness]

Amazing the Chargers are as good as they are with no real RB1, no WR2 (Johnston & Palmer are #3-4's) no TE1 and some OL issues. Great defense but Harbough & culture.

And Herbert.

 

[VikingFrog]

Good decision to punt there. Going for it and failing would have been killer, but something I think many coaches would have done.

2:00 at least come off the clock and likely field goal.

So you HAVE to score a touchdown.

At this point you play defense and get a stop and know that you could still tie it with a field goal.

Long story short… I agree.

 

[Uncle Leo]

Amazing the Chargers are as good as they are with no real RB1, no WR2 (Johnston & Palmer are #3-4's) no TE1 and some OL issues. Great defense but Harbough & culture.

They have a very good QB. That makes all the difference.

 

[travdogg]

Amazing the Chargers are as good as they are with no real RB1, no WR2 (Johnston & Palmer are #3-4's) no TE1 and some OL issues. Great defense but Harbough & culture.

Agreed, though I'll add if Johnston shows as much development from year 2 to 3 as he has from year 1 to 2, he'll be a plenty solid WR2.

 

[efactor]

flag…?

Not for the Broncos

Feel like the calls have balanced out a lot in the 2nd half.

I think no flag there is the right call. Shouldn't reward QBs for garbage throws.

LOL. So you can commit PI with no penalty if the throw is bad? Doesn't seem to work that way for all teams.

I'm saying that wasn't anywhere near egregious enough of contact to warrant a flag when the throw was so awful. The throw took the players into contact. That's not a flag unless its clear, no-brainer PI, which that wasn't.

Well, other than the DB had both of his hands on the receiver and one of them holding the receivers hand down. Pretty obvious PI. Doesn't matter if the throw took the DB into the receiver. You see that called all the time. But not tonight. Not for the Broncos.

 

[Penguin]

But last year they had K.Allen, M.Williams, A.Eckler, Herbert etc. Only additions after the subtractions are Alt & McConkey

 

[Penguin]

Amazing the Chargers are as good as they are with no real RB1, no WR2 (Johnston & Palmer are #3-4's) no TE1 and some OL issues. Great defense but Harbough & culture.

And Herbert.

Amazing the Chargers are as good as they are with no real RB1, no WR2 (Johnston & Palmer are #3-4's) no TE1 and some OL issues. Great defense but Harbough & culture.

Agreed, though I'll add if Johnston shows as much development from year 2 to 3 as he has from year 1 to 2, he'll be a plenty solid WR2.

Johnston has the hands of one of those Easter Island statues

 

[VikingFrog]

as a TCU Frogs fan I can no longer cover for QJ drops.

 

[JoeJoe88]

Johnston lol

 

[SoBeDad]

McConkey is a #1, he's only gonna get better.

That's the hope.

They'll try to upgrade from QJ and Palmer in the draft or FA. Tyler Warren would be a great target for Herbert.

 

[efactor]

Herbert should have went out of bounds

 

[fatness]

I'm a Washington fan trying to imagine Ron Rivera knowing the rules for free kicks.

 

[zamboni]

3 games worth of yardage with that Gus run

 

[Todem]

Amazing the Chargers are as good as they are with no real RB1, no WR2 (Johnston & Palmer are #3-4's) no TE1 and some OL issues. Great defense but Harbough & culture.

Justin Herbert is also a special player and one of the toughest SOB’s playing the QB position today.

Like I said a few pages back….wait till he has some real weapons around him (like his first two years) but with this coaching staff and culture.

I think if they have a great draft and off season they can be legit contenders.

 

[travdogg]

Anyone else think these "punch-outs" should be flags sometimes. Edwards basically got punched in the side of the head.

 

[Todem]

Herbert baby…..elite play there.

 

[fatness]

Wow

 

[rockaction]

Oh my. Welp, that doesn’t help me out but I’m excited for the Chargers and for the Bengals this weekend. Means Chase will at least be playing through the weekend and maybe further into the fantasy playoffs (should some people be lucky enough to make it).

 

[Penguin]

Amazing the Chargers are as good as they are with no real RB1, no WR2 (Johnston & Palmer are #3-4's) no TE1 and some OL issues. Great defense but Harbough & culture.

Justin Herbert is also a special player and one of the toughest SOB’s playing the QB position today.

Like I said a few pages back….wait till he has some real weapons around him (like his first two years) but with this coaching staff and culture.

I think if they have a great draft and off season they can be legit contenders.

Oh I agree 100%

 

[rockaction]

Anyone else think these "punch-outs" should be flags sometimes. Edwards basically got punched in the side of the head.

Yes. Fred Warner is going to rupture somebody’s spleen or kidney someday with how he goes after the ball. I don’t know how you police it. It always seemed self-policed until Peanut Tillman started really doing it as a signature move.

 

[Mongidig]

Sean Payton is officially out for coach of the year.

 

[ShamrockPride]

That was way past the LOS

 

[rockaction]

I know the game’s never over, but that Haskins rumble might have just done it.

 

[rockaction]

That was way past the LOS

Looked like a lateral to me, actually.

 

[travdogg]

Anyone else think these "punch-outs" should be flags sometimes. Edwards basically got punched in the side of the head.

Yes. Fred Warner is going to rupture somebody’s spleen or kidney someday with how he goes after the ball. I don’t know how you police it. It always seemed self-policed until Peanut Tillman started really doing it as a signature move.

TJ Watt is a major offender too.