TO Playing With Torn Tendons in Hand (1 Viewer)

[Despyzer]

He's basically harmless, just on the edge personality wise.

Have you talked to McNabb, Garcia, Mariucci, Andy Reid, and the Ravens about this?

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

He is a drama queen. He is the male version of a self proclaimed diva like J-ho or Maria Carrie.

 

[simey]

He's basically harmless, just on the edge personality wise.

TO is low class trash, and he has hurt every team he has been on in some form due to his "edgey personality."

 

[cobalt_27]

He's basically harmless, just on the edge personality wise.

Have you talked to McNabb, Garcia, Mariucci, Andy Reid, and the Ravens about this?

Yeah, but TO is such a remarkable talent, they need to just recognize his greatness and support him, even if it means throwing teammates and coaches under the bus. [/bostonfred]

 

[Hairy Snowman]

I will say this - Itotally expected Marc Levin to chime in on this trip..



ETA I still like him from a statistical point of view.

And regarding Garcia/McNabb/Reid - obvious clash of egos. Happens in business all the time.

I could argue that the WEST COAST SYSTEM makes those QBS appear better than they actually are, but TO makes the West Coast System look better than it actually is. IMO Without the receivers, the WCS doesn't work

 

[CBFalcon]

so to the people that say he is playing through an injury for selfish reasons:

would it have been more honorable for him to have season ending surgery? Or basically was there no way for him to handle the injury situation that you wouldn't look at negatively?

 

[cobalt_27]

And regarding Garcia/McNabb/Reid - obvious clash of egos. Happens in business all the time.

Why do you think it is that everywhere TO goes, this "clash," as you call it, happens? San Fran, Philly, Dallas. Same story, different venue. This wasn't a "clash of egos." It was TO being a ####. You couldn't mischaracterize this any worse than you just did.

 

[cobalt_27]

so to the people that say he is playing through an injury for selfish reasons:would it have been more honorable for him to have season ending surgery? Or basically was there no way for him to handle the injury situation that you wouldn't look at negatively?

No, we're saying that TO never does anything for selfless reasons, and playing with torn tendons in his hand (if that's even the case) is not an honorable/selfless thing, necessarily. The honorable thing for him to do would be to just shut up about himself and play the ####### game. And stop spitting at opponents, risking a suspension. And stop the end zone celebration that puts his special teams/defense in a 15 yard deficit on the next possession. And stop throwing Jerry Rice under the bus. And stop throwing Jeff Garcia under the bus. And Andy Reid. And McNabb. And Mooch. And stop with the attention-grabbing suicide/overdose/allergic reaction histrionics.Some of you folks laughably don't understand why he's getting run out of town everywhere he goes. But, that's the riddle you're obviously need to solve for yourselves.

 

[glock]

so to the people that say he is playing through an injury for selfish reasons:would it have been more honorable for him to have season ending surgery? Or basically was there no way for him to handle the injury situation that you wouldn't look at negatively?

No, we're saying that TO never does anything for selfless reasons, and playing with torn tendons in his hand (if that's even the case) is not an honorable/selfless thing, necessarily. The honorable thing for him to do would be to just shut up about himself and play the ####### game. And stop spitting at opponents, risking a suspension. And stop the end zone celebration that puts his special teams/defense in a 15 yard deficit on the next possession. And stop throwing Jerry Rice under the bus. And stop throwing Jeff Garcia under the bus. And Andy Reid. And McNabb. And Mooch. And stop with the attention-grabbing suicide/overdose/allergic reaction histrionics.Some of you folks laughably don't understand why he's getting run out of town everywhere he goes. But, that's the riddle you're obviously need to solve for yourselves.

That being said, he's been a game breaking threat anywhere he has played, caused opponents defenses to plan for him, and he's helped put me in a position to win my leagues crown. That is what all this is about, no? Fantasy as well as in the NFL. Not many of you guys are older than I. Most of you have grown up during this era of the "me-me" athlete, and many of you have never even SEEN players from the bygone era of the self-less athlete.That makes me chuckle while reading these threads.

 

[cobalt_27]

so to the people that say he is playing through an injury for selfish reasons:would it have been more honorable for him to have season ending surgery? Or basically was there no way for him to handle the injury situation that you wouldn't look at negatively?

No, we're saying that TO never does anything for selfless reasons, and playing with torn tendons in his hand (if that's even the case) is not an honorable/selfless thing, necessarily. The honorable thing for him to do would be to just shut up about himself and play the ####### game. And stop spitting at opponents, risking a suspension. And stop the end zone celebration that puts his special teams/defense in a 15 yard deficit on the next possession. And stop throwing Jerry Rice under the bus. And stop throwing Jeff Garcia under the bus. And Andy Reid. And McNabb. And Mooch. And stop with the attention-grabbing suicide/overdose/allergic reaction histrionics.Some of you folks laughably don't understand why he's getting run out of town everywhere he goes. But, that's the riddle you're obviously need to solve for yourselves.

That being said, he's been a game breaking threat anywhere he has played, caused opponents defenses to plan for him, and he's helped put me in a position to win my leagues crown. That is what all this is about, no? Fantasy as well as in the NFL. Not many of you guys are older than I. Most of you have grown up during this era of the "me-me" athlete, and many of you have never even SEEN players from the bygone era of the self-less athlete.That makes me chuckle while reading these threads.

Ladanian TomlinsonMarvin HarrisonTory HoltPeyton ManningTom BradyTroy BrownRonde BarberJason TaylorJonathan OgdenDrew BreesReggie BushJoe HornRoy Williams (DAL)Just off the top of my head. But, I'm gonna' guess there are many, many more to be added to this list of quality individuals in the NFL and who don't represent the "me-me" athlete you've described. I don't think the problem is the "era." It's Terrell Owens. He's responsible for his actions, and he chooses how to comport himself. You obviously can choose whether or not this is a guy to root for. I'm a Cowboy fan, and I happen to have him on my fantasy team. I root for his success. Doesn't mean I would regard him as a quality individual or that I would want him on my team in the NFL, if I were a head coach, player, GM or owner.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

He's made unheralded Tony Romo look like a superstar.

By that logic, he made veteran Drew Bledsoe look crappy.

 

[cobalt_27]

He's made unheralded Tony Romo look like a superstar.

By that logic, he made veteran Drew Bledsoe look crappy.

Shhh...bfred likes to assume the direction of causality that supports his arguments, and he never likes it when someone calls him out on his logic.

 

[Sabertooth]

He's basically harmless, just on the edge personality wise.

Have you talked to McNabb, Garcia, Mariucci, Andy Reid, and the Ravens about this?

Ummm, the Ravens got draft pick for nuthin from TO.

 

[CBFalcon]

so to the people that say he is playing through an injury for selfish reasons:

would it have been more honorable for him to have season ending surgery? Or basically was there no way for him to handle the injury situation that you wouldn't look at negatively?

No, we're saying that TO never does anything for selfless reasons, 1. and playing with torn tendons in his hand (if that's even the case) is not an honorable/selfless thing, necessarily. The honorable thing for him to do would be to just shut up about himself and play the ####### game. 2. And stop spitting at opponents, risking a suspension. And 3. stop the end zone celebration that puts his special teams/defense in a 15 yard deficit on the next possession. And stop throwing Jerry Rice under the bus. And stop throwing Jeff Garcia under the bus. And Andy Reid. And McNabb. And Mooch. And stop with the attention-grabbing suicide/overdose/allergic reaction histrionics.

Some of you folks laughably don't understand why he's getting run out of town everywhere he goes. But, that's the riddle you're obviously need to solve for yourselves.

1. This is just hate. People are ripping him for doing something that 100% of us agree he should have done.2. He won't get suspended. We've had a few spitting incidents in the past and nobody has ever been suspended. Although TO being a man and fessing up may hurt him here whereas being a wuss and lying about it may have saved him some cash.

3. I believe this has only happened once all year. Once when he fake napped with the ball as a pillow, but that's it as far as I know.

I don't really like the guy...but it seems the haters hate a little too strongly.

 

[Despyzer]

Ummm, the Ravens got draft pick for nuthin from TO.

And?

 

[CBFalcon]

so to the people that say he is playing through an injury for selfish reasons:

would it have been more honorable for him to have season ending surgery? Or basically was there no way for him to handle the injury situation that you wouldn't look at negatively?

No, we're saying that TO never does anything for selfless reasons, and playing with torn tendons in his hand (if that's even the case) is not an honorable/selfless thing, necessarily. The honorable thing for him to do would be to just shut up about himself and play the ####### game. And stop spitting at opponents, risking a suspension. And stop the end zone celebration that puts his special teams/defense in a 15 yard deficit on the next possession. And stop throwing Jerry Rice under the bus. And stop throwing Jeff Garcia under the bus. And Andy Reid. And McNabb. And Mooch. And stop with the attention-grabbing suicide/overdose/allergic reaction histrionics.

Some of you folks laughably don't understand why he's getting run out of town everywhere he goes. But, that's the riddle you're obviously need to solve for yourselves.

That being said, he's been a game breaking threat anywhere he has played, caused opponents defenses to plan for him, and he's helped put me in a position to win my leagues crown. That is what all this is about, no? Fantasy as well as in the NFL. Not many of you guys are older than I. Most of you have grown up during this era of the "me-me" athlete, and many of you have never even SEEN players from the bygone era of the self-less athlete.

That makes me chuckle while reading these threads.

Ladanian TomlinsonMarvin Harrison - Walked off the field with time left in the half a few weeks ago because he wasn't getting the ball. Also rumored to have gotten into a yelling match with Manning in locke room that next week

Tory Holt

Peyton Manning - See Harrison

Tom Brady

Troy Brown

Ronde Barber

Jason Taylor

Jonathan Ogden - Do lineman even count? couldn't you just have said "every lineman in the NFL because we don't hear anything from them"?

Drew Brees

Reggie Bush - really? He's probably going to lose a Heisman and cost USC 1 or 2 National Titles because he was selfish.

Joe Horn - Isn't this guy the reason half these end zone rules are in effect? he of the cell phone and lots of complaining when he didn't get the ball in the past

Roy Williams (DAL)

Just off the top of my head. But, I'm gonna' guess there are many, many more to be added to this list of quality individuals in the NFL and who don't represent the "me-me" athlete you've described.

I don't think the problem is the "era." It's Terrell Owens. He's responsible for his actions, and he chooses how to comport himself. You obviously can choose whether or not this is a guy to root for. I'm a Cowboy fan, and I happen to have him on my fantasy team. I root for his success. Doesn't mean I would regard him as a quality individual or that I would want him on my team in the NFL, if I were a head coach, player, GM or owner.

 

[glock]

so to the people that say he is playing through an injury for selfish reasons:would it have been more honorable for him to have season ending surgery? Or basically was there no way for him to handle the injury situation that you wouldn't look at negatively?

No, we're saying that TO never does anything for selfless reasons, and playing with torn tendons in his hand (if that's even the case) is not an honorable/selfless thing, necessarily. The honorable thing for him to do would be to just shut up about himself and play the ####### game. And stop spitting at opponents, risking a suspension. And stop the end zone celebration that puts his special teams/defense in a 15 yard deficit on the next possession. And stop throwing Jerry Rice under the bus. And stop throwing Jeff Garcia under the bus. And Andy Reid. And McNabb. And Mooch. And stop with the attention-grabbing suicide/overdose/allergic reaction histrionics.Some of you folks laughably don't understand why he's getting run out of town everywhere he goes. But, that's the riddle you're obviously need to solve for yourselves.

That being said, he's been a game breaking threat anywhere he has played, caused opponents defenses to plan for him, and he's helped put me in a position to win my leagues crown. That is what all this is about, no? Fantasy as well as in the NFL. Not many of you guys are older than I. Most of you have grown up during this era of the "me-me" athlete, and many of you have never even SEEN players from the bygone era of the self-less athlete.That makes me chuckle while reading these threads.

Ladanian TomlinsonMarvin HarrisonTory HoltPeyton ManningTom BradyTroy BrownRonde BarberJason TaylorJonathan OgdenDrew BreesReggie BushJoe HornRoy Williams (DAL)Just off the top of my head. But, I'm gonna' guess there are many, many more to be added to this list of quality individuals in the NFL and who don't represent the "me-me" athlete you've described. I don't think the problem is the "era." It's Terrell Owens. He's responsible for his actions, and he chooses how to comport himself. You obviously can choose whether or not this is a guy to root for. I'm a Cowboy fan, and I happen to have him on my fantasy team. I root for his success. Doesn't mean I would regard him as a quality individual or that I would want him on my team in the NFL, if I were a head coach, player, GM or owner.

Tiki didn't make your list? Oh, that's right- he had the unmitigated audacity to suggest outloud that he might need to tote the rock a little more for his team to win.Now his rep is in the toilet.