Today I am ashamed of my race. (1 Viewer)

[skol asylum]

Thread title gets more absurd every time you see it.

Why? The title is exactly what I meant to say. We as an ENTIRE race allow this to continue. WE as a race have to confront this and the fact that we haven't make me ashamed and angry. To interpret the title as being ashamed of every member of the race because I believe that all use the word is absurd. However, to be ashamed that our race does nothing about it's use and stands ideally by while many make fools out of us all is quite accurate IMO.

First off I can vouch for cowboyz in that this is not a fishing trip. Secondly, I wish we would have some high profile Islamic religious leaders do the same with calling out religious fanatics who use Allah to blow stuff up and cut off heads.

Because the "n" word equates to blowing people up?

Obviously that was my point.

 

[cowboyz1]

Thread title gets more absurd every time you see it.

Why? The title is exactly what I meant to say. We as an ENTIRE race allow this to continue. WE as a race have to confront this and the fact that we haven't make me ashamed and angry. To interpret the title as being ashamed of every member of the race because I believe that all use the word is absurd. However, to be ashamed that our race does nothing about it's use and stands ideally by while many make fools out of us all is quite accurate IMO.

What's your solution? How do you, as an entire race, stop it from continuing?

He'll address them at the Big Black Meeting which they have every other Thursday. They all get together and decide what to do. They're a race, you know?

Sadly, that doesn't happen anymore. Black families in the community use to get together and discuss local topics and family issues. I remember as a kid once or twice a year the black community would get together and share information and get to know one another. No more.

 

[McGarnicle]

Thread title gets more absurd every time you see it.

Why? The title is exactly what I meant to say. We as an ENTIRE race allow this to continue. WE as a race have to confront this and the fact that we haven't make me ashamed and angry. To interpret the title as being ashamed of every member of the race because I believe that all use the word is absurd. However, to be ashamed that our race does nothing about it's use and stands ideally by while many make fools out of us all is quite accurate IMO.

What's your solution? How do you, as an entire race, stop it from continuing?

He'll address them at the Big Black Meeting which they have every other Thursday. They all get together and decide what to do. They're a race, you know?

Sadly, that doesn't happen anymore. Black families in the community use to get together and discuss local topics and family issues. I remember as a kid once or twice a year the black community would get together and share information and get to know one another. No more.

Sounds like what you guys need is a community organizer.

 

[kentric]

Saw the title and came in. Rather surprised it wasn't a Tim thread.

 

[fatness]

He'll address them at the Big Black Meeting which they have every other Thursday. They all get together and decide what to do. They're a race, you know?

Sadly, that doesn't happen anymore. Black families in the community use to get together and discuss local topics and family issues. I remember as a kid once or twice a year the black community would get together and share information and get to know one another. No more.

Groups of people still get together to discuss things. They just don't separate along racial lines as much as they used to. I don't know why that would be desirable any more, honestly, except to bigots. People mix more.

If you think the behavior of a few people makes a whole race shameful you really should unscrew your head and put it back on, because it makes no sense. I can understand not liking their behavior and thinking it'll give bigots something to point at and say "see, they're all like that." But there's no appeasing or pleasing bigots and any time spent in that direction is wasted. As is any time indicting or blaming an entire race for the actions of some.

Name 2 atrocious white people. Should they make whites "ashamed of their race?" Of course not. Same with hispanic or asian people.

People are individuals, they aren't part of a race army that has to move in lockstep.

 

[cowboyz1]

He'll address them at the Big Black Meeting which they have every other Thursday. They all get together and decide what to do. They're a race, you know?

Sadly, that doesn't happen anymore. Black families in the community use to get together and discuss local topics and family issues. I remember as a kid once or twice a year the black community would get together and share information and get to know one another. No more.

Groups of people still get together to discuss things. They just don't separate along racial lines as much as they used to. I don't know why that would be desirable any more, honestly, except to bigots. People mix more.

If you think the behavior of a few people makes a whole race shameful you really should unscrew your head and put it back on, because it makes no sense. I can understand not liking their behavior and thinking it'll give bigots something to point at and say "see, they're all like that." But there's no appeasing or pleasing bigots and any time spent in that direction is wasted. As is any time indicting or blaming an entire race for the actions of some.

Name 2 atrocious white people. Should they make whites "ashamed of their race?" Of course not. Same with hispanic or asian people.

People are individuals, they aren't part of a race army that has to move in lockstep.

I agree about the groups not separate so much and that is a good thing. However, we could use to leadership that rallies for the betterment of our group other then the Al Sharptons and Jessie Jacksons of the world. It seems we gather only when there is some racially charged event. I would like to see business mixers and community growth meetings.

As far as your other comment. It's not just a "few" people. It's a common tongue among black groups communicating. From athletes to performers, to everyday individuals on the street. It is far more common then you realize which is why this post. If it were a few I wouldn't have a problem. However, it's become a common greeting, a common reference, a common description. I am angry because of the damage that is done not only to our people but the people that over hear such verbal defaming. It teaches our young people that the word is ok and as I pointed out, hurts us in many more ways.

 

[NCCommish]

Well the piece is a bit repetitive. A good editor would help get that word count down. But beyond that I see what he is saying and I happen to agree. As he pointed out what other scorned minority has ever embraced the ugly words used to describe them? None that I can think of. Taking it back? Why the hell would you want it? Now if black men want to address each other that way it's not for me to correct them. But instead I would suggest they should shun it and everyone that uses it. Destroy it. Make it toxic. Don't embrace it. Because for far too many every time they hear a black man use it, it justifies their bigoted opinions.

 

[McGarnicle]

He'll address them at the Big Black Meeting which they have every other Thursday. They all get together and decide what to do. They're a race, you know?

Sadly, that doesn't happen anymore. Black families in the community use to get together and discuss local topics and family issues. I remember as a kid once or twice a year the black community would get together and share information and get to know one another. No more.

Groups of people still get together to discuss things. They just don't separate along racial lines as much as they used to. I don't know why that would be desirable any more, honestly, except to bigots. People mix more.

If you think the behavior of a few people makes a whole race shameful you really should unscrew your head and put it back on, because it makes no sense. I can understand not liking their behavior and thinking it'll give bigots something to point at and say "see, they're all like that." But there's no appeasing or pleasing bigots and any time spent in that direction is wasted. As is any time indicting or blaming an entire race for the actions of some.

Name 2 atrocious white people. Should they make whites "ashamed of their race?" Of course not. Same with hispanic or asian people.

People are individuals, they aren't part of a race army that has to move in lockstep.

I agree about the groups not separate so much and that is a good thing. However, we could use to leadership that rallies for the betterment of our group other then the Al Sharptons and Jessie Jacksons of the word. It seems we gather only when there is some racially charged event. I would like to see business mixers and community growth meetings. As far as your other comment. It's not just a "few" people. It's a common tongue amounts black groups communicating. From athletes to performers, to everyday individuals on the street. It is far more common then you realize which is why this post. If it were a few I wouldn't have a problem. However, it's become a common greeting, a common reference, a common description. I am angry because of the damage that is done not only to our people but the people that over hear such verbal defaming. It teaches our young people that the word is ok and as I pointed out, hurts us in many more ways.

I'm not buying it. It's a word people are using willingly and it's become part of the vernacular. Words are meaningless without emotion, inflection and intent, and in this context they're using it like "dude" or "bro".And I'll say again that it's laughable to make this a topic of discussion when you've got far more serious issues like illegitimacy, crime, drugs, etc. You want to talk about black people damaging themselves, how does a slang term hold a candle to entire communities fractured and in ruin?

 

[L5UT1ger]

Well the piece is a bit repetitive. A good editor would help get that word count down. But beyond that I see what he is saying and I happen to agree. As he pointed out what other scorned minority has ever embraced the ugly words used to describe them? None that I can think of. Taking it back? Why the hell would you want it? Now if black men want to address each other that way it's not for me to correct them. But instead I would suggest they should shun it and everyone that uses it. Destroy it. Make it toxic. Don't embrace it. Because for far too many every time they hear a black man use it, it justifies their bigoted opinions.

From what I understand, Cajun was not a compliment, nor is coonass. dunno if we qualify as a scorned minority, but, i think we may have been a long time ago.

 

[NCCommish]

Well the piece is a bit repetitive. A good editor would help get that word count down. But beyond that I see what he is saying and I happen to agree. As he pointed out what other scorned minority has ever embraced the ugly words used to describe them? None that I can think of. Taking it back? Why the hell would you want it? Now if black men want to address each other that way it's not for me to correct them. But instead I would suggest they should shun it and everyone that uses it. Destroy it. Make it toxic. Don't embrace it. Because for far too many every time they hear a black man use it, it justifies their bigoted opinions.

From what I understand, Cajun was not a compliment, nor is coonass. dunno if we qualify as a scorned minority, but, i think we may have been a long time ago.

My understanding is Cajun was a mispronounced name for the French colony of Acadia which the British captured and forced the French-Creole out of. Many of them settled in La and that's where the name originated. Not sure it was ever derogatory though. Coon ### though is like the n word. Some use it proudly some say it is the ultimate insult.

 

[cstu]

Instead of carrying about slang words your 'race' uses, you should be more concerned about them getting an education.

 

[L5UT1ger]

Well the piece is a bit repetitive. A good editor would help get that word count down. But beyond that I see what he is saying and I happen to agree. As he pointed out what other scorned minority has ever embraced the ugly words used to describe them? None that I can think of. Taking it back? Why the hell would you want it? Now if black men want to address each other that way it's not for me to correct them. But instead I would suggest they should shun it and everyone that uses it. Destroy it. Make it toxic. Don't embrace it. Because for far too many every time they hear a black man use it, it justifies their bigoted opinions.

From what I understand, Cajun was not a compliment, nor is coonass. dunno if we qualify as a scorned minority, but, i think we may have been a long time ago.

My understanding is Cajun was a mispronounced name for the French colony of Acadia which the British captured and forced the French-Creole out of. Many of them settled in La and that's where the name originated. Not sure it was ever derogatory though. Coon ### though is like the n word. Some use it proudly some say it is the ultimate insult.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cajun

"Henry and Bankston point out that "Cajun", which was formerly considered an insulting term, became a term of pride among Louisianans by the beginning of the 21st-century."

http://www.acadian-cajun.com/hiscaj3.htm

To the English, the simple carefree lifestyle that the Acadians were comfortable with was viewed as lazy and culturally inferior. To be called a Cajun was an insult to them. Some Acadians also took that point of view. As one write of the 19th century wrote, "we must not call them ‘Cajuns to their faces lest they be offended, that the term is taken as one of reproach." [Julien Ralph, Harpers' Monthly, Nov. 1893] As an Acadian became successful, he often shed himself of aspects of the Acadian culture. More than a few wealthy Acadians tended to pass themselves off as Creole.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Is this like how white people are embarrassed by white guys who say "brah"?

 

[cowboyz1]

Well the piece is a bit repetitive. A good editor would help get that word count down. But beyond that I see what he is saying and I happen to agree. As he pointed out what other scorned minority has ever embraced the ugly words used to describe them? None that I can think of. Taking it back? Why the hell would you want it? Now if black men want to address each other that way it's not for me to correct them. But instead I would suggest they should shun it and everyone that uses it. Destroy it. Make it toxic. Don't embrace it. Because for far too many every time they hear a black man use it, it justifies their bigoted opinions.

From what I understand, Cajun was not a compliment, nor is coonass. dunno if we qualify as a scorned minority, but, i think we may have been a long time ago.

My understanding is Cajun was a mispronounced name for the French colony of Acadia which the British captured and forced the French-Creole out of. Many of them settled in La and that's where the name originated. Not sure it was ever derogatory though. Coon ### though is like the n word. Some use it proudly some say it is the ultimate insult.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cajun

"Henry and Bankston point out that "Cajun", which was formerly considered an insulting term, became a term of pride among Louisianans by the beginning of the 21st-century."

http://www.acadian-cajun.com/hiscaj3.htm

To the English, the simple carefree lifestyle that the Acadians were comfortable with was viewed as lazy and culturally inferior. To be called a Cajun was an insult to them. Some Acadians also took that point of view. As one write of the 19th century wrote, "we must not call them ‘Cajuns to their faces lest they be offended, that the term is taken as one of reproach." [Julien Ralph, Harpers' Monthly, Nov. 1893] As an Acadian became successful, he often shed himself of aspects of the Acadian culture. More than a few wealthy Acadians tended to pass themselves off as Creole.

So you're saying, at some point the n word will become a term of pride? I don't think so. I just can't see ever walking up to someone with pride and calling him a nger.

 

[cowboyz1]

Bump for the weekenders.

 

[Chemical X]

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oops

 

[L5UT1ger]

Well the piece is a bit repetitive. A good editor would help get that word count down. But beyond that I see what he is saying and I happen to agree. As he pointed out what other scorned minority has ever embraced the ugly words used to describe them? None that I can think of. Taking it back? Why the hell would you want it? Now if black men want to address each other that way it's not for me to correct them. But instead I would suggest they should shun it and everyone that uses it. Destroy it. Make it toxic. Don't embrace it. Because for far too many every time they hear a black man use it, it justifies their bigoted opinions.

From what I understand, Cajun was not a compliment, nor is coonass. dunno if we qualify as a scorned minority, but, i think we may have been a long time ago.

My understanding is Cajun was a mispronounced name for the French colony of Acadia which the British captured and forced the French-Creole out of. Many of them settled in La and that's where the name originated. Not sure it was ever derogatory though. Coon ### though is like the n word. Some use it proudly some say it is the ultimate insult.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cajun

"Henry and Bankston point out that "Cajun", which was formerly considered an insulting term, became a term of pride among Louisianans by the beginning of the 21st-century."

http://www.acadian-cajun.com/hiscaj3.htm

To the English, the simple carefree lifestyle that the Acadians were comfortable with was viewed as lazy and culturally inferior. To be called a Cajun was an insult to them. Some Acadians also took that point of view. As one write of the 19th century wrote, "we must not call them ‘Cajuns to their faces lest they be offended, that the term is taken as one of reproach." [Julien Ralph, Harpers' Monthly, Nov. 1893] As an Acadian became successful, he often shed himself of aspects of the Acadian culture. More than a few wealthy Acadians tended to pass themselves off as Creole.

So you're saying, at some point the n word will become a term of pride? I don't think so. I just can't see ever walking up to someone with pride and calling him a nger.

No, im not saying that. I was aware of the possibility of a situation where that occurred when one fbg seemingly wasn't so i did some research and tried to help.

 

[ydoc]

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oops

must have been the 2 black friends comment....

 

[cowboyz1]

Well the piece is a bit repetitive. A good editor would help get that word count down. But beyond that I see what he is saying and I happen to agree. As he pointed out what other scorned minority has ever embraced the ugly words used to describe them? None that I can think of. Taking it back? Why the hell would you want it? Now if black men want to address each other that way it's not for me to correct them. But instead I would suggest they should shun it and everyone that uses it. Destroy it. Make it toxic. Don't embrace it. Because for far too many every time they hear a black man use it, it justifies their bigoted opinions.

From what I understand, Cajun was not a compliment, nor is coonass. dunno if we qualify as a scorned minority, but, i think we may have been a long time ago.

My understanding is Cajun was a mispronounced name for the French colony of Acadia which the British captured and forced the French-Creole out of. Many of them settled in La and that's where the name originated. Not sure it was ever derogatory though. Coon ### though is like the n word. Some use it proudly some say it is the ultimate insult.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cajun

"Henry and Bankston point out that "Cajun", which was formerly considered an insulting term, became a term of pride among Louisianans by the beginning of the 21st-century."

http://www.acadian-cajun.com/hiscaj3.htm

To the English, the simple carefree lifestyle that the Acadians were comfortable with was viewed as lazy and culturally inferior. To be called a Cajun was an insult to them. Some Acadians also took that point of view. As one write of the 19th century wrote, "we must not call them ‘Cajuns to their faces lest they be offended, that the term is taken as one of reproach." [Julien Ralph, Harpers' Monthly, Nov. 1893] As an Acadian became successful, he often shed himself of aspects of the Acadian culture. More than a few wealthy Acadians tended to pass themselves off as Creole.

So you're saying, at some point the n word will become a term of pride? I don't think so. I just can't see ever walking up to someone with pride and calling him a nger.

No, im not saying that. I was aware of the possibility of a situation where that occurred when one fbg seemingly wasn't so i did some research and tried to help.

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