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I wonder if this is how Norv Turner decides who his feature back should be... cruises FF sites, dredges up some nerdy stats, and then bases his decision 100% on the past. Or if he just says, "Matthews is my guy... and he's gonna play."
I have both Mathews and Tolbert and I will be benching them both for J Stewart who will be joining the starting lineup with McFadden and McCoy
This has to be a huge bump for Sproles. 3rd down checkdowns all night.Damn I have Mathews and don't have the guts to start him over PThomas given Ivory news but maybe should rethink (also have Lynch and RBrown).
Good luck tackling Tolbert with a broken arm.
Good luck tackling Tolbert with less than 3 people.
If he got hurt already the idiot announcers havent said a word...
I like Tolbert but I don't understand what the Chargers are doing. Mathews gets 5 yards on his first carry and hasn't seen the field since. Instead, it's Tolbert for 1 and 2 yards a carry. You'd think they'd want to go back to Mathews.
Yeah, I'm not sure what the point is of "starting" a rookie and giving him 1 carry in the first quarter and a half.
So an idiot like me after the news that Gates and Floyd were out and that he drew the start would make a late move and put him in there. So much for the championship
I sure hope so
I doubt we've seen the last of Tolbert. But with the Chargers up 14-0, you'd think we'll see plenty of running in the second half. And the last two games when the 49ers were down big (Tampa Bay and Green Bay), they got gashed by opposing RBs.
Doesn't it seem like this is San Diego's coming out party with the way that VJAX is going? Hopefully they have a second half Mathews party!! 1st Half RB comparison:Mathews 4 for 22 yardsTolbert 8 for 18 yardsEdge Mathews
From your lips to Norv's ears.
Did I stutter? Norv doesnt trust Matthews yet. Now that the game is out of hand...Matthews should see more carries.
Yeah b/c it's not like there as been ANY indication over the last, I don't 13 or 14 weeks, that Tolbert gets most of the goaline work.
Right here guys
How many of you wrote off McFadden after his rookie season? Pretty much everybody...Keep him this offseason. Tolbert is lucky that Mathews has been hurt all year. He's a short, fat FB who still plays on special teams. First round draft picks just don't go away after an injury plagued season. Mathews will be a steal next year, just like McFadden was this year.agree, esp with bolded. i am enamored by mathews from what ive seen. that cut he made today was pretty slick. he runs a bit like arian foster but seems to have more power and lower cog. i didnt draft him on any teams so i have no bias. in fact i am hoping he continues to be underutilized so i can snag him on the cheap next draft.Football Jones said:
You know who else is really impressive and is having very little success? Jahvid Best.
I don't know what Mathews some of these people have been watching, but it can't be the Ryan who has shown no vision whatsoever this season. Perhaps he'll come back a better player next year, but this season he has looked like a classic bust draft pick who must have looked a lot better in the combine than he looks as a football player. Pretty funny to hear the argument that Mathews is really awesome and can't possibly be denied greatness by the slow, fat, crummy Mike Tolbert. Funny because he has already been beaten out by the slow, fat, crummy Tolbert! 
i think you misinterpreted my position. i think mathews' talent dwarfs jahvids.I don't know what Mathews some of these people have been watching, but it can't be the Ryan who has shown no vision whatsoever this season. Perhaps he'll come back a better player next year, but this season he has looked like a classic bust draft pick who must have looked a lot better in the combine than he looks as a football player. Pretty funny to hear the argument that Mathews is really awesome and can't possibly be denied greatness by the slow, fat, crummy Mike Tolbert. Funny because he has already been beaten out by the slow, fat, crummy Tolbert!
LT averaged 3.6 his rookie season & lost 5 fumbles. I don't particularly like to use raw stats like that, but it just goes to show even the best RBs can have a learning curve in their rookie season. I see nothing that tells me Mathews isn't going to be an absolute FF monster in that offense. Mathews has missed a lot of time & is just now starting to get some touches, but he's getting the starts which is no small thing. I'm not sure when Mathews will become their feature back, but I believe it's going to happen sooner rather than later (likely in 2011). Tolbert simply isn't talented enough to keep Mathews on the bench or in a RBBC, IMO.I'm confident I'm right, but we'll see. It might not happen for Mathews this season. Patience.
What makes you say Tolbert doenst have the kind of natural talent? He stepped in to a crappy situation and has done more than what they expected anyone to do? Im just curious.
Tolbert is a nice RB, but he's somewhat limited as far as quickness & speed. You can excel without having speed, but you've got to have quickness to be a feature back. Look at the top RBs. You'll find guys with good lateral quickness or at least quick feet. You can't just be a guy who runs over people. It won't work over the longhaul. But you can't just be a guy who tries to juke everyone, either.Mathews has all the tools to be an NFL feature back. He's got the quickness/power/speed combo that's so effective in today's game. I believe Tolbert will eventually be the backup to Matthews. That said, it'll be interesting to see how it plays out the rest of the way this season.
It doesn't seem like Hillis is especially fast or quick, but he sure looks good plowing LBs who get in his way, which is pretty much what Tolbert does. I don't think Tolbert will ever be the lead RB for the Chargers in any other situation than right now when their desired #1 has been hurt, but I also don't think they shelve him completely when they know what he can do inside the 5. 11 TDs most likely won't be forgotten and he might turn Mathews into the next Ray Rice, which is death in TD heavy formats.
