Top 10 ppr WR for 2009 (1 Viewer)

[tribecalledjeff]

1. Andre Johnson

2. Fitzgerald

3. Steve Smith

4. Calvin Johnson

5. Randy Moss

6. Bowe

7. Marshalll

8. Wayne

9. Boldin

10. Jennings

I can't get myself to put Roddy White up there... someone convince me otherwise. I'm a huge Housh fan but need to wait to see his situation before I put him in there and bump Jennings. For some reason I'm not completely sold on Jennings and I probably should be... convince me of that, too.

 

[drew726]

Reggie Bush

 

[Black]

1. Andre Johnson2. Fitzgerald3. Steve Smith4. Calvin Johnson5. Randy Moss6. Bowe7. Marshalll8. Wayne9. Boldin10. JenningsI can't get myself to put Roddy White up there... someone convince me otherwise. I'm a huge Housh fan but need to wait to see his situation before I put him in there and bump Jennings. For some reason I'm not completely sold on Jennings and I probably should be... convince me of that, too.

I think you have to put Roddy above Jennings, Bowe, and even Wayne. Roddy has 82 catches to Jennings 69 and Bowe's 73. Jennings has 8 TDs and Bowe has 7, which is why if you do a straight points count, they bump Roddy out of the top 10. Roddy (before last night) had the same stats as Wayne, but 200 more yards. I like Roddy more, b/c he's the clear #1WR (and Wayne shares with Clark, Gonzalez). Jennings also has more WRs to share with.You have to put in WWelker. I think that in PPR league you are going for numbers...receptions...the TDs and Yards are more of a guess.Housh has 92 catches..even in this dismal season with no running game, nothing to play for, and no QB. I think he's still a top 10, but he's been riding the bench for me most of this year. All you need to know is they have a good, healthy QB. If his situation improves at all QB-wise, he's back in my top 10.I don't like Randy Moss and Calvin Johnson as top 10 in PPR either...not until their QB sittuations work themselves out. Those guys are sitting about about 65 receptions this year. They are both TD machines, but that is dependent on their team's performance.

 

[bcr8f]

Reggie Bush

Yeah, he could be a receiver next season.

 

[runner06]

1. Andre Johnson2. Fitzgerald3. Steve Smith4. Calvin Johnson5. Randy Moss6. Bowe7. Marshalll8. Wayne9. Boldin10. JenningsI can't get myself to put Roddy White up there... someone convince me otherwise. I'm a huge Housh fan but need to wait to see his situation before I put him in there and bump Jennings. For some reason I'm not completely sold on Jennings and I probably should be... convince me of that, too.

1. Andre Johnson - current leader in receptions and I think he'll up his touchdown total in 20092. Randy Moss - He gets Tom Brady back next year.3. Larry Fitzgerald - Consistently a top 10 WR4. Reggie Wayne - Like A.J., I think Wayne is very likely to increase his touchdown total in 20095. Calvin Johnson - a ton of talent, but a high TD to reception ratio in 2008 is a major concern in PPR leagues6. Roddy White - White's totals should only get better as Matt Ryan gains more experience7. Steve Smith - edited: Ranked him to hastily. Owning him in 2007 has obviously given me a negative bias towards him 8. Brandon Marshall - Could be #1 if the Broncos get a decent defense and run game9. Greg Jennings - Like Megatron, has a higher TD to reception ratio then other elite WRs10. Marques Colston - I think he'll bounce back in 200911. Anquan Boldin - I think he'll regress to his career averages next year12. T.J. Houshmandzadeh - Low number of TDs hurting his fantasy totals. Palmer's return should change that.13. Wes Welker - should get more touchdowns next year with Brady back behind center14. Dwayne Bowe - Thigpen's low completion % scares me, Bowe's talent does not15. Eddie Royal - outstanding route runner for a rookie so he's less likely to suffer from a sophomore slump16. Terrell Owens - Turns 36 next December, but does has Romo throwing him the ball17. Chad Johnson - miserable 2008, but I think it was due him playing through an injury and the absence of Palmer18. Santana Moss - doesn't seem like a player that strings together back to back good seasons19. Roy Williams - I think he'll rebound in 2009 since he should be comfortable with the Cowboys offense by then20. Hines Ward - consistently a top 25 WR but has only been a top 10 WR in one of the last four seasons

 

[tribecalledjeff]

1. Andre Johnson2. Fitzgerald3. Steve Smith4. Calvin Johnson5. Randy Moss6. Bowe7. Marshalll8. Wayne9. Boldin10. JenningsI can't get myself to put Roddy White up there... someone convince me otherwise. I'm a huge Housh fan but need to wait to see his situation before I put him in there and bump Jennings. For some reason I'm not completely sold on Jennings and I probably should be... convince me of that, too.

1. Andre Johnson - current leader in receptions and I think he'll up his touchdown total in 20092. Randy Moss - He gets Tom Brady back next year.3. Larry Fitzgerald - Consistently a top 10 WR4. Reggie Wayne - Like A.J., I think Wayne is very likely to increase his touchdown total in 20095. Calvin Johnson - a ton of talent, but a high TD to reception ratio in 2008 is a major concern in PPR leagues6. Roddy White - White's totals should only get better as Matt Ryan gains more experience7. Brandon Marshall - Could be #1 if the Broncos get a decent defense and run game8. Greg Jennings - Like Megatron, has a higher TD to reception ratio then other elite WRs9. Marques Colston - I think he'll bounce back in 200910. Anquan Boldin - I think he'll regress to his career averages next year11. T.J. Houshmandzadeh - Low number of TDs hurting his fantasy totals. Palmer's return should change that.12. Wes Welker - should get more touchdowns next year with Brady back behind center13. Steve Smith - An overrated fantasy WR because Carolina's offense is heavy run.14. Dwayne Bowe - Thigpen's low completion % scares me, Bowe's talent does not15. Eddie Royal - outstanding route runner for a rookie so he's less likely to suffer from a sophomore slump16. Terrell Owens - Turns 36 next December, but does has Romo throwing him the ball17. Chad Johnson - miserable 2008, but I think it was due him playing through an injury and the absence of Palmer18. Santana Moss - doesn't seem like a player that strings together back to back good seasons19. Roy Williams - I think he'll rebound in 2009 since he should be comfortable with the Cowboys offense by then20. Hines Ward - consistently a top 25 WR but has only been a top 10 WR in one of the last four seasons

I can't argue with most of these, but Steve Smith at #13 just leaps out at me as being far too low. Last 5 healthy years:88-1110-8103-1563-1283-1166-887-1002-793-1653-8 (averaged out to 16 games)He's put up great numbers in all kinds of situations - good and bad running game, good and bad QBs, good and bad teams, with and without a viable wr2. You say he's overrated because it's a run heavy offense, but he's #3 in the league in ppg right now. In my opinion the heavy running game helps him. I think he gets overlooked a bit because he does not have the same frame as most elite WRs, but the dude is a stud.

 

[tribecalledjeff]

1. Andre Johnson2. Fitzgerald3. Steve Smith4. Calvin Johnson5. Randy Moss6. Bowe7. Marshalll8. Wayne9. Boldin10. JenningsI can't get myself to put Roddy White up there... someone convince me otherwise. I'm a huge Housh fan but need to wait to see his situation before I put him in there and bump Jennings. For some reason I'm not completely sold on Jennings and I probably should be... convince me of that, too.

I think you have to put Roddy above Jennings, Bowe, and even Wayne. Roddy has 82 catches to Jennings 69 and Bowe's 73. Jennings has 8 TDs and Bowe has 7, which is why if you do a straight points count, they bump Roddy out of the top 10. Roddy (before last night) had the same stats as Wayne, but 200 more yards. I like Roddy more, b/c he's the clear #1WR (and Wayne shares with Clark, Gonzalez). Jennings also has more WRs to share with.You have to put in WWelker. I think that in PPR league you are going for numbers...receptions...the TDs and Yards are more of a guess.Housh has 92 catches..even in this dismal season with no running game, nothing to play for, and no QB. I think he's still a top 10, but he's been riding the bench for me most of this year. All you need to know is they have a good, healthy QB. If his situation improves at all QB-wise, he's back in my top 10.I don't like Randy Moss and Calvin Johnson as top 10 in PPR either...not until their QB sittuations work themselves out. Those guys are sitting about about 65 receptions this year. They are both TD machines, but that is dependent on their team's performance.

Moss's QB situation next year is a healthy Tom Brady - can't work itself out much better than that.Housh I have as a question mark only b/c I don't know if he'll be in Cincy next year.Calvin is a 2nd year WR who I see as still improving. I live in Detroit and get to watch him a lot, as in when the damn games aren't blacked out, and I think that he is a top 5 WR talent in the league at worst. Those guys find their level regardless of situation and I think he will be up there. And while TDs are often widely variant from year to year, I don't think his will be - he is the unquestioned red zone target and actually could easily have 4-5 more this year if they would throw the fade near the goal line as much as they should.Welker was a near miss on my list, as was Roddy. Both could definitely be included.

 

[MAC_32]

2009 looks like it'll be a great year to have a later 1st round pick.

The difference between the #1 RB and a later 1st round RB doesn't appear to be much, then you get an elite WR on the way back, than you get two excellent values with your 3rd and 4th round picks, whether they be two WR's or one WR + one RB.

There are some really good WR's that will fall under WR2 classification.

 

[djmich]

My rankings may be a little skewed since I play in .5ppr, but what I have:

1. Randy Moss. He's top 15WR with Cassell under center. With Brady back and Randy in essence having an off year, I see him ready for another monster year again.

2. Larry Fitzgerald. Mr. Consistency. Warner should be back, questions surrounding Boldin only potentially improve situation for Fitz.

3. Andre Johnson - PPR monster, don't see any reason why he would regress

4. Roddy White. Huge breakout year, extremely consistent on an offense that only looks like it will improve. No clear threat to take targets away from him.

5. Steve Smith - Despite missing two games due to suspension he is Top 10WR this year, and this it with Delhomme throwing some duds.

6. Calvin Johnson. The only reason he is this low is because the Lions suck. If they were to ever improve he's #1.

7. Reggie Wayne. Not as solid this year as previous years, I think both he and Manning will start out stronger next year.

8. Greg Jennings. Has competition for balls, and has lost some of his huge games with Favre gone, but still a #1WR

9. Anquan Boldin. Monster, has been a top WR for a number of years, don't see any reason that would change.

10. Brandon Marshall. I think Royal significantly impacts Marshalls upside. He's still a great WR and will get his share, but make no mistake he will be sharing. Also, he's a knucklehead.

 

[Whiplash Inc.]

1. Andre Johnson2. Fitzgerald3. Steve Smith4. Calvin Johnson5. Randy Moss6. Bowe7. Marshalll8. Wayne9. Boldin10. JenningsI can't get myself to put Roddy White up there... someone convince me otherwise. I'm a huge Housh fan but need to wait to see his situation before I put him in there and bump Jennings. For some reason I'm not completely sold on Jennings and I probably should be... convince me of that, too.

1. Andre Johnson - current leader in receptions and I think he'll up his touchdown total in 20092. Randy Moss - He gets Tom Brady back next year.3. Larry Fitzgerald - Consistently a top 10 WR4. Reggie Wayne - Like A.J., I think Wayne is very likely to increase his touchdown total in 20095. Calvin Johnson - a ton of talent, but a high TD to reception ratio in 2008 is a major concern in PPR leagues6. Roddy White - White's totals should only get better as Matt Ryan gains more experience7. Brandon Marshall - Could be #1 if the Broncos get a decent defense and run game8. Greg Jennings - Like Megatron, has a higher TD to reception ratio then other elite WRs9. Marques Colston - I think he'll bounce back in 200910. Anquan Boldin - I think he'll regress to his career averages next year11. T.J. Houshmandzadeh - Low number of TDs hurting his fantasy totals. Palmer's return should change that.12. Wes Welker - should get more touchdowns next year with Brady back behind center13. Steve Smith - An overrated fantasy WR because Carolina's offense is heavy run.14. Dwayne Bowe - Thigpen's low completion % scares me, Bowe's talent does not15. Eddie Royal - outstanding route runner for a rookie so he's less likely to suffer from a sophomore slump16. Terrell Owens - Turns 36 next December, but does has Romo throwing him the ball17. Chad Johnson - miserable 2008, but I think it was due him playing through an injury and the absence of Palmer18. Santana Moss - doesn't seem like a player that strings together back to back good seasons19. Roy Williams - I think he'll rebound in 2009 since he should be comfortable with the Cowboys offense by then20. Hines Ward - consistently a top 25 WR but has only been a top 10 WR in one of the last four seasons

Smith has put up these kind of numbers for years, with or without a strong running game and/or a viable WR2. He shouldn't be any lower than #4, maybe even higher IMO.

 

[gonzobill5]

1. Andre Johnson2. Fitzgerald3. Steve Smith4. Calvin Johnson5. Randy Moss6. Bowe7. Marshalll8. Wayne9. Boldin10. JenningsI can't get myself to put Roddy White up there... someone convince me otherwise. I'm a huge Housh fan but need to wait to see his situation before I put him in there and bump Jennings. For some reason I'm not completely sold on Jennings and I probably should be... convince me of that, too.

Nice list. Mine would have Welker, 109+ catches two straight years (aren't you the one who is big on consistency?) and Roddy White. Roddy has to make the cut, you have to anticipate some continued improvement at QB. Jennings doesn't make the cut in ppr because GB spreads the ball around a lot. I'd leave out Bowe because while I think that KC will throw as much next year, I still see him as the second option on a bad team. I'm not nervous about Fitz, but Boldin has me concerned because of Arizona's miserable finish to this season. I think a Saints receiver (colston or moore) will end up in the top ten next year. Eddie Royal's #'s are pretty darn impressive compared to Marshall's when you consider the # of targets each received. 75/103 vs. 88/156. It's going to be really hard not to take Randy Moss #1 or 2 with the possibility of all of those TDs.

 

[David Yudkin]

Everyne (so far) has Fitz over Boldin. Yet when Boldin, Fitz, and Warner have all played together in the same game Boldin's numbers have been better. Not just this year, but the entire time they've played together.

And speaking of Warner, he'll be a free agent after the season is over. He's rumored to be staying with Arizona, but his stock certainly has gone way up this year.

Certainly the fantasy stock of Boldin and Fitz should be directly tied to who the Cardinals QB will be.

 

[FUBAR]

1. Andre Johnson2. Fitzgerald3. Steve Smith4. Calvin Johnson5. Randy Moss6. Bowe7. Marshalll8. Wayne9. Boldin10. JenningsI can't get myself to put Roddy White up there... someone convince me otherwise. I'm a huge Housh fan but need to wait to see his situation before I put him in there and bump Jennings. For some reason I'm not completely sold on Jennings and I probably should be... convince me of that, too.

1. Andre Johnson - current leader in receptions and I think he'll up his touchdown total in 20092. Randy Moss - He gets Tom Brady back next year.3. Larry Fitzgerald - Consistently a top 10 WR4. Reggie Wayne - Like A.J., I think Wayne is very likely to increase his touchdown total in 20095. Calvin Johnson - a ton of talent, but a high TD to reception ratio in 2008 is a major concern in PPR leagues6. Roddy White - White's totals should only get better as Matt Ryan gains more experience7. Steve Smith - edited: Ranked him to hastily. Owning him in 2007 has obviously given me a negative bias towards him 8. Brandon Marshall - Could be #1 if the Broncos get a decent defense and run game9. Greg Jennings - Like Megatron, has a higher TD to reception ratio then other elite WRs10. Marques Colston - I think he'll bounce back in 200911. Anquan Boldin - I think he'll regress to his career averages next year12. T.J. Houshmandzadeh - Low number of TDs hurting his fantasy totals. Palmer's return should change that.13. Wes Welker - should get more touchdowns next year with Brady back behind center14. Dwayne Bowe - Thigpen's low completion % scares me, Bowe's talent does not15. Eddie Royal - outstanding route runner for a rookie so he's less likely to suffer from a sophomore slump16. Terrell Owens - Turns 36 next December, but does has Romo throwing him the ball17. Chad Johnson - miserable 2008, but I think it was due him playing through an injury and the absence of Palmer18. Santana Moss - doesn't seem like a player that strings together back to back good seasons19. Roy Williams - I think he'll rebound in 2009 since he should be comfortable with the Cowboys offense by then20. Hines Ward - consistently a top 25 WR but has only been a top 10 WR in one of the last four seasons

Not a bad list, although Housh is a wildcard and Welker should be higher.I haven't thought the list through, but my gut tells me I'll have Vincent Jackson and Santonio Holmes in my top 20. Holmes loses some in PPR, so he might be just outside 20.

 

[gonzobill5]

Everyne (so far) has Fitz over Boldin. Yet when Boldin, Fitz, and Warner have all played together in the same game Boldin's numbers have been better. Not just this year, but the entire time they've played together.And speaking of Warner, he'll be a free agent after the season is over. He's rumored to be staying with Arizona, but his stock certainly has gone way up this year.Certainly the fantasy stock of Boldin and Fitz should be directly tied to who the Cardinals QB will be.

Strongly agree with the Warner comment, though I expect him to be back. Can't say I agree with your comment about Boldin. Boldin has finished 2 season's with more fantasy points than Fitz - Fitz's rookie year and the year that he missed four games. Even in the year where he was hurt and Q played a full 16, they were a mere 11 points apart. Fitzgerald is looking at his 3rd top 5 finish in 5 years. If I had the choice between the two in one game, and both were healthy, I'd be inclined to go with Q. For a whole season, Fitz is my pick.

 

[David Yudkin]

Everyne (so far) has Fitz over Boldin. Yet when Boldin, Fitz, and Warner have all played together in the same game Boldin's numbers have been better. Not just this year, but the entire time they've played together.And speaking of Warner, he'll be a free agent after the season is over. He's rumored to be staying with Arizona, but his stock certainly has gone way up this year.Certainly the fantasy stock of Boldin and Fitz should be directly tied to who the Cardinals QB will be.

Strongly agree with the Warner comment, though I expect him to be back. Can't say I agree with your comment about Boldin. Boldin has finished 2 season's with more fantasy points than Fitz - Fitz's rookie year and the year that he missed four games. Even in the year where he was hurt and Q played a full 16, they were a mere 11 points apart. Fitzgerald is looking at his 3rd top 5 finish in 5 years. If I had the choice between the two in one game, and both were healthy, I'd be inclined to go with Q. For a whole season, Fitz is my pick.

Boldin's PPG average is higher than Fitz when they play together. To some folks, that is more valuable than total points on the season.

 

[gonzobill5]

Everyne (so far) has Fitz over Boldin. Yet when Boldin, Fitz, and Warner have all played together in the same game Boldin's numbers have been better. Not just this year, but the entire time they've played together.And speaking of Warner, he'll be a free agent after the season is over. He's rumored to be staying with Arizona, but his stock certainly has gone way up this year.Certainly the fantasy stock of Boldin and Fitz should be directly tied to who the Cardinals QB will be.

Strongly agree with the Warner comment, though I expect him to be back. Can't say I agree with your comment about Boldin. Boldin has finished 2 season's with more fantasy points than Fitz - Fitz's rookie year and the year that he missed four games. Even in the year where he was hurt and Q played a full 16, they were a mere 11 points apart. Fitzgerald is looking at his 3rd top 5 finish in 5 years. If I had the choice between the two in one game, and both were healthy, I'd be inclined to go with Q. For a whole season, Fitz is my pick.

Boldin's PPG average is higher than Fitz when they play together. To some folks, that is more valuable than total points on the season.

I see your point, but the only flaw is that Boldin has an injury history which is a huge minus for him and a huge plus for Fitz. (I haven't done the leg work to see if Fitz is actually better in games where Q doesn't play, but that has always seemed to me to be the case). Also makes me curious how Q does when Fitz is hurt. Still too lazy.There is just something undeniable about 100 catches, 1400 yards and 10 tds.

 

[David Yudkin]

Everyne (so far) has Fitz over Boldin. Yet when Boldin, Fitz, and Warner have all played together in the same game Boldin's numbers have been better. Not just this year, but the entire time they've played together.And speaking of Warner, he'll be a free agent after the season is over. He's rumored to be staying with Arizona, but his stock certainly has gone way up this year.Certainly the fantasy stock of Boldin and Fitz should be directly tied to who the Cardinals QB will be.

Strongly agree with the Warner comment, though I expect him to be back. Can't say I agree with your comment about Boldin. Boldin has finished 2 season's with more fantasy points than Fitz - Fitz's rookie year and the year that he missed four games. Even in the year where he was hurt and Q played a full 16, they were a mere 11 points apart. Fitzgerald is looking at his 3rd top 5 finish in 5 years. If I had the choice between the two in one game, and both were healthy, I'd be inclined to go with Q. For a whole season, Fitz is my pick.

Boldin's PPG average is higher than Fitz when they play together. To some folks, that is more valuable than total points on the season.

I see your point, but the only flaw is that Boldin has an injury history which is a huge minus for him and a huge plus for Fitz. (I haven't done the leg work to see if Fitz is actually better in games where Q doesn't play, but that has always seemed to me to be the case). Also makes me curious how Q does when Fitz is hurt. Still too lazy.There is just something undeniable about 100 catches, 1400 yards and 10 tds.

I have run the numbers and posted on them earlier this year, so the less lazy can search for them. The perception that Fitz does more than Boldin is an illusion. Assuming Bolding misses next week (there is no reason for him to play), he'll have missed 16 games in 6 years = 2.67 per season. Fitz has missed 5 games in 5 years = 1 game per season. Clearly he's played more, but IMO I personally would rather take Boldin later than having to take Fitz very early in terms of WRs on draft day.

 

[BigJim®]

1. Andre Johnson2. Fitzgerald3. Steve Smith4. Calvin Johnson5. Randy Moss6. Bowe7. Marshalll8. Wayne9. Boldin10. JenningsI can't get myself to put Roddy White up there... someone convince me otherwise. I'm a huge Housh fan but need to wait to see his situation before I put him in there and bump Jennings. For some reason I'm not completely sold on Jennings and I probably should be... convince me of that, too.

Hard to argue with your ranking. My rank:1. Fitzgerald2. Andre Johnson3. Steve Smith4. Calvin Johnson5. Randy Moss6. Roddy White [sold me this year producing with a rookie QB]7. Marshalll8. Wayne9. Boldin10. JenningsWelker was hard to exclude in PPR. A.Bryant has looked great. T.O. probably in the mix here also.

 

[Blue-Kun]

Yay, easy top 10 to make.

1. Boldin

2. Moss

3. Calvin Johnson

4. Fitz

5. Andre Johnson

6. Roddy White

7. Steve Smith

8. Reggie Wayne

9. Brandon Marshall

10. Wes Welker

 

[gonzobill5]

Everyne (so far) has Fitz over Boldin. Yet when Boldin, Fitz, and Warner have all played together in the same game Boldin's numbers have been better. Not just this year, but the entire time they've played together.

And speaking of Warner, he'll be a free agent after the season is over. He's rumored to be staying with Arizona, but his stock certainly has gone way up this year.

Certainly the fantasy stock of Boldin and Fitz should be directly tied to who the Cardinals QB will be.

Strongly agree with the Warner comment, though I expect him to be back. Can't say I agree with your comment about Boldin. Boldin has finished 2 season's with more fantasy points than Fitz - Fitz's rookie year and the year that he missed four games. Even in the year where he was hurt and Q played a full 16, they were a mere 11 points apart. Fitzgerald is looking at his 3rd top 5 finish in 5 years. If I had the choice between the two in one game, and both were healthy, I'd be inclined to go with Q. For a whole season, Fitz is my pick.

Boldin's PPG average is higher than Fitz when they play together. To some folks, that is more valuable than total points on the season.

I see your point, but the only flaw is that Boldin has an injury history which is a huge minus for him and a huge plus for Fitz. (I haven't done the leg work to see if Fitz is actually better in games where Q doesn't play, but that has always seemed to me to be the case). Also makes me curious how Q does when Fitz is hurt. Still too lazy.There is just something undeniable about 100 catches, 1400 yards and 10 tds.

I have run the numbers and posted on them earlier this year, so the less lazy can search for them. The perception that Fitz does more than Boldin is an illusion. Assuming Bolding misses next week (there is no reason for him to play), he'll have missed 16 games in 6 years = 2.67 per season. Fitz has missed 5 games in 5 years = 1 game per season. Clearly he's played more, but IMO I personally would rather take Boldin later than having to take Fitz very early in terms of WRs on draft day.

Was VERY true this year, not sure it will be next year. Not sure when you ran your stats, but I'd love to see them if anyone can find them. This year Fitz has 12/232/4 in three games without Boldin. Not bad, but it ppr, not exactly lights out.

 

[Tony Jabroni]

2009 looks like it'll be a great year to have a later 1st round pick.The difference between the #1 RB and a later 1st round RB doesn't appear to be much, then you get an elite WR on the way back, than you get two excellent values with your 3rd and 4th round picks, whether they be two WR's or one WR + one RB.There are some really good WR's that will fall under WR2 classification.

Agreed 100%.

 

[David Yudkin]

Everyne (so far) has Fitz over Boldin. Yet when Boldin, Fitz, and Warner have all played together in the same game Boldin's numbers have been better. Not just this year, but the entire time they've played together.

And speaking of Warner, he'll be a free agent after the season is over. He's rumored to be staying with Arizona, but his stock certainly has gone way up this year.

Certainly the fantasy stock of Boldin and Fitz should be directly tied to who the Cardinals QB will be.

Strongly agree with the Warner comment, though I expect him to be back. Can't say I agree with your comment about Boldin. Boldin has finished 2 season's with more fantasy points than Fitz - Fitz's rookie year and the year that he missed four games. Even in the year where he was hurt and Q played a full 16, they were a mere 11 points apart. Fitzgerald is looking at his 3rd top 5 finish in 5 years. If I had the choice between the two in one game, and both were healthy, I'd be inclined to go with Q. For a whole season, Fitz is my pick.

Boldin's PPG average is higher than Fitz when they play together. To some folks, that is more valuable than total points on the season.

I see your point, but the only flaw is that Boldin has an injury history which is a huge minus for him and a huge plus for Fitz. (I haven't done the leg work to see if Fitz is actually better in games where Q doesn't play, but that has always seemed to me to be the case). Also makes me curious how Q does when Fitz is hurt. Still too lazy.There is just something undeniable about 100 catches, 1400 yards and 10 tds.

I have run the numbers and posted on them earlier this year, so the less lazy can search for them. The perception that Fitz does more than Boldin is an illusion. Assuming Bolding misses next week (there is no reason for him to play), he'll have missed 16 games in 6 years = 2.67 per season. Fitz has missed 5 games in 5 years = 1 game per season. Clearly he's played more, but IMO I personally would rather take Boldin later than having to take Fitz very early in terms of WRs on draft day.

Was VERY true this year, not sure it will be next year. Not sure when you ran your stats, but I'd love to see them if anyone can find them. This year Fitz has 12/232/4 in three games without Boldin. Not bad, but it ppr, not exactly lights out.

Updated to the moment, in 32 games with Warner, Boldin, and Fitz starting over their careers:Boldin: 10.2 targets, 7.1 receptions, 92 receiving yards, 0.66 TD = 20.26 ppg

Fitz: 10.1 targets, 6.4 recptions, 87.7 reciving yards, 0.63 TD = 18.95 ppg

Obviously Fitz has played in more games each year, but the perception that Fitz has historically done better than Bolding when they play together has generally been wrong. Even prior to this season the two had very similar numbers when playing together.

 

[TheWick]

Looks like I'll be drafting Colston in every league next year.

Since he has come back fully healthy its hard to put too many guys ahead of him in PPR in that offense.