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Top 100 Heavy Metal and glam rock acts from the MTV era - it's still real to me (2 Viewers)
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45. Kix
Hagerstowners, with a West Virginian on vocals, these dudes are definitely inbred.
I kid! Actually Piedmont area, where Steve Whiteman is from.. I'm jealous
Their early #### sounds like AC/DC as played by Slade. Will talk more about Slade when we get to you-know-whom.
The Itch
Somehow my ex wife liked Cool Kids. I never met anybody else in my life who liked or even knew Cool Kids. Boondock Pennsyltucky thing I guess.
Their next album Midnite Dynamite wants to be good but IMO it sounds like crap and the better songs never really cut loose...
Their fourth, Blow My Fuse did the trick.
Cold Blood
Blow My Fuse
Don't Close Your Eyes
Steve Whiteman has never not had bangs. WHEN YOU FIND YOUR LOOK, STICK WITH IT
Hagerstowners, with a West Virginian on vocals, these dudes are definitely inbred.
I kid! Actually Piedmont area, where Steve Whiteman is from.. I'm jealous
Their early #### sounds like AC/DC as played by Slade. Will talk more about Slade when we get to you-know-whom.
The Itch
Somehow my ex wife liked Cool Kids. I never met anybody else in my life who liked or even knew Cool Kids. Boondock Pennsyltucky thing I guess.
Their next album Midnite Dynamite wants to be good but IMO it sounds like crap and the better songs never really cut loose...
Their fourth, Blow My Fuse did the trick.
Cold Blood
Blow My Fuse
Don't Close Your Eyes
Steve Whiteman has never not had bangs. WHEN YOU FIND YOUR LOOK, STICK WITH IT
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
They may as well have been the house band at Hammerjacks. All of Dundalk, Arbutus, and Glen Burnie would come out when Kix was playing there.
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plinko
Footballguy
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
I feel like these guys had a residency at Hammerjacks when I was in high school.
Or what Uruk Hai said.
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plinko
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44. Winger
Stuart's favorites, only somewhat unfairly maligned, I mean, they're not NELSON.. but they are pretty damn wimpy.
Seventeen you're such a macho risk taker Kip Winger, singing about banging a high school junior.
Madalaine | 2 tuff 2 tame
Hungry this isn't bad
Cover of Purple Haze because pissing on sacred ground is a great way to get respect
But their best song for real, and it's super wimpy -- Headed for a Heartbreak
Stuart's favorites, only somewhat unfairly maligned, I mean, they're not NELSON.. but they are pretty damn wimpy.
Seventeen you're such a macho risk taker Kip Winger, singing about banging a high school junior.
Madalaine | 2 tuff 2 tame
Hungry this isn't bad
Cover of Purple Haze because pissing on sacred ground is a great way to get respect
But their best song for real, and it's super wimpy -- Headed for a Heartbreak
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Andy Dufresne
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Uhh....huh huh...no way dude. Huh huh...
rockaction
Footballguy
Kix and Junkyard are good picks. I owned both of those albums you mention. Listened to them.
As for Winger and Bulletboys. Hoo boy.
As for Winger and Bulletboys. Hoo boy.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
I like Kix and think they should have been much more successful. I would rather listen to Kix over some of the bigger hair bands such as Poison, Warrant, and Twisted Sister.foxco said:
Ex- Mrs Plinco isn’t the only one that liked Cool Kids. It’s a fine song!
DocHolliday
Footballguy
Winger simply didn’t have very many good songs. I don’t know that they were any wimpier than many other hair bands but Winger was boring. Reb Beach is a fine guitar player but the songs are just there.plinko said:
I saw Kip Winger do an acoustic show with only him and a guy on bongos about 5 years ago. Kip could still sing and was not a mess like many rockers from the 80s. As you can imagine, there were only about 200 people there but Kip put on a good show and mingled with anyone that wanted to talk to him when he finished playing.
Courtjester
The Town Drunk
I love me some Winger. Their music is still in my playlist to this day.
I am a red-blooded heterosexual male, but Kip Winger, in the day, was one nice looking dude. You know he had few lonely nights.
I am a red-blooded heterosexual male, but Kip Winger, in the day, was one nice looking dude. You know he had few lonely nights.
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plinko
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zamboni
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Herb
Footballguy
With respect, Battle Stations from the Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey soundtrack is Winger's best song..plinko said:
Kip was Alice Cooper's bassist when he made the Raise Your Fist and Yell album, which is a real gem if you're into Alice.
plinko
Footballguy
We'll bookmark this..
I love the Bogus soundtrack but I do not like the first two songs so much
Herb
Footballguy
Wasn't the first track the Kiss remake of God Gave Rock n Roll To You and the second the above-mentioned Winger tune?
Sacrilege! 14 year old Herb is raging pissed right now.
plinko
Footballguy
I thought the first track was the Slaughter song and the second track was the Winger song
Wasn't the first track the Kiss remake of God Gave Rock n Roll To You and the second the above-mentioned Winger tune?
Sacrilege! 14 year old Herb is raging pissed right now.
I was just listening to some of this because I mentioned the King's X song which rules
God Gave Rock N Roll To You is a great way to introduce our next act... tomorrow morning
Doug B
Footballguy
This soundtrack was released about two and a half months before Nevermind. Kind of a coda to the 80s glam metal era. There are a few acts on Bogus Journey for whom that soundtrack was their last glint of spotlight.
plinko
Footballguy
Doug B
Footballguy
That Love On Ice song ... the drums & bass are basically playing Glass Tiger's "Don't Forget Me When I'm Gone" at a slower tempo. I do like the instrumentation on that track.
Herb
Footballguy
You're right, the Slaughter song was first, and it was meh. Megadeth, Primus, and Faith No More also had some excellent contributions to that soundtrack.I thought the first track was the Slaughter song and the second track was the Winger song
I was just listening to some of this because I mentioned the King's X song which rules
God Gave Rock N Roll To You is a great way to introduce our next act... tomorrow morning
zamboni
Footballguy
Kiss’s cover of the old Argent tune “God Gave Rock and Roll To You” was pretty meh as well.
Herb
Footballguy
In retrospect, maybe. But I didn't know it was a cover until years later, and didn't know it was an Argent song until a couple of years ago. Up until then it was one of my favorite Kiss songs. And backinaday I loved Kiss fervently.
zamboni
Footballguy
Gr00vus
Footballguy
Rod Morgenstein is a monster drummer. Really incredible. He's showing chops on purpose, which may not have suited the song best at all times, but his fills on Headin For A Heartbreak are still gold.
Herb
Footballguy
I liked quite a bit of their stuff from the 80s, but after that, it went downhill drastically. I'm assuming they'll make an appearance later in the thread, so I'll save the link to my favorite song until then.
MindCrime
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One of my favorites from this era! I really loved the sleezy vibe crossed with the metal/southern punk feel. While I’m a through and through 80s metal head, one of my all time favorite bands is Social Distortion. Junkyard seemed like the perfect mix of the two.
Shot in the Dark
Back on the Streets
MindCrime
Footballguy
Outside of bands that I’ve worked for and toured with, Kix is the band I’ve seen most in my life. In part because I grew up in Southeastern PA, and in part because they are still one of the best live bands ever. They used to play the York P.A. Fairgrounds every year around the holidays, plus all of their national tours brought them into the Hershey/ Philly/ Baltimore region. Great band. And yes, while it’s not my favorite, I still even listen to Cool Kids on occasion.
Ron Swanson
Footballguy
Brian Baker did some great work with Minor Threat and Dag Nasty. Still does in Bad Religion.
rockaction
Footballguy
From memory, tell me if it's faulty:
Woke up my lover shake her off like a stick
Hungover tired and shakin' head two feet thick
Half past noon I got up out of bed
Ran to the freezer to cool off my head, yeah yeah yeah
Now I got the reason
Seeing is believing
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
"smooOOOOOTH UP IN YAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaa!" Knew it was just a matter of time before they made an appearance.
Also, Chip Z'nuff has probably the most "punchable voice" in this genre. Egads, did they suck.
I met Reb Beach once back about 5 years after Winger's peak. I was working at a Kinko's in Pittsburgh and, IIRC, he....was getting resumes printed (as well as, essentially, pirating copies of an article from that month's "Guitar" magazine, in which he was featured). I still sorta wonder to this day if he was taking them down to the Phar-Mor down at the end of the strip mall to try and snag a seasonal gig, or something (And, like, what were the entries on that thing like? "1984-1986 Tri-R-Pizza, delivery guy, 1987-1993 Winger, lead guitarist, 1994-Present, Self-Employed, dying of shame mostly"?)
I suppose he was probably making some kinda shoestring budget press kit, but....resumes? You do you, Reb. Hope it worked out. Absolutely a great player.
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Ramsay Hunt Experience
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plinko said:
Far fewer shirtless pics on kipwinger.com nowadays. Time is undefeated.
plinko
Footballguy
43. Stryper
If you can believe it they are from Orange County.
Their name is a cutesy reference to Jesus' whip scars, as foretold by the prophet Isaiah. As in, hey, check out the strypes on that guy they're killing
Look, they are the only Christian rock band of any type anywhere, that I am aware of.. that actually had chops, relative to their secular peers.
I guess the next best band in this vein, at this time was Bloodgood?
Reason for the Season -- 1984.. Christmas metal while Savatage was still doing Badfinger covers
Soldiers Under Command slams
Honestly Broke through with an extra drippy ballad of course
Free
The Way -- Get past goofball lyrics and Oz Fox could play*
Three pretty successful records, the follow up to To Hell With The Devil was more of the same but not as good. In 1990 they took off the yellow and black, donned leather and denim and tried a more secular approach. Amy Grant, the other Christian artist with any chops, had some success with this move, albeit without the leather.
But we all rolled our eyes and that was it for a while. Nowadays AFAIK they're together and tour and make records in full force. Because why wouldn't they be?
George Lynch, whore that he is, has made two albums with Michael Sweet in the last ten years as well.
* Sense a trend... nobody up and down this whole list went anywhere without a damn good git-fiddler.
If you can believe it they are from Orange County.
Their name is a cutesy reference to Jesus' whip scars, as foretold by the prophet Isaiah. As in, hey, check out the strypes on that guy they're killing
Look, they are the only Christian rock band of any type anywhere, that I am aware of.. that actually had chops, relative to their secular peers.
I guess the next best band in this vein, at this time was Bloodgood?
Reason for the Season -- 1984.. Christmas metal while Savatage was still doing Badfinger covers
Soldiers Under Command slams
Honestly Broke through with an extra drippy ballad of course
Free
The Way -- Get past goofball lyrics and Oz Fox could play*
Three pretty successful records, the follow up to To Hell With The Devil was more of the same but not as good. In 1990 they took off the yellow and black, donned leather and denim and tried a more secular approach. Amy Grant, the other Christian artist with any chops, had some success with this move, albeit without the leather.
But we all rolled our eyes and that was it for a while. Nowadays AFAIK they're together and tour and make records in full force. Because why wouldn't they be?
George Lynch, whore that he is, has made two albums with Michael Sweet in the last ten years as well.
* Sense a trend... nobody up and down this whole list went anywhere without a damn good git-fiddler.
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Eulogys
Footballguy
Saw them a few years ago in Orlando where they were suppose to be playing the entire 1st album. Bastards didnt play Rain. They are now dead to me
Eulogys
Footballguy
I thought Hellacious Acres was right up there with their self-titled debut. Pissed on the other hand, not so much.
Eulogys
Footballguy
Seen these guys open for Ratt and Britny Fox back on the Blow My Fuse... best band on stage that night.
Doug B
Footballguy
Beach's post-Winger work in the mid- to late-1990s was low-key but prolific. He toured with Alice Cooper, replaced George Lynch in Dokken for at least one album, and started recording video game music for Sega.
By 2001, Winger re-formed and started playing dates again. In 2002, Beach released a solo album AND joined Whitesnake (who knew?). Winger's original members reformed in 2006 and continue to record and tour to this day. Beach never left Whitesnake -- essentially, he records and tours with two groups ... but since neither play 180 dates a year anymore, he can make it work.
zamboni
Footballguy
rockaction
Footballguy
I was born and raised loosely Catholic, one might say. My friends generally were Catholic. It was a small town, and the Catholic church had the closest thing to spiritual instruction for young boys there was. So my brother and I attended Church on Sundays, catechism on Saturdays.
Anyway, metal was always a going concern for the teenagers among us because of the devil worship and stuff like that. I remember my earnest friends liking the message that Stryper had. It allowed them to listen to metal and justify it to their parents. I grew up in a looser household, had no such content restrictions, and was largely agnostic to begin with. Stryper was not my bag, really.
But they were really big in households that otherwise intervened and didn't allow metal. I remember my friend having a poster on the wall, justified to his Mom as being in God's service. I remember the 7-7-7 or the ridiculousness of it all.
It was really bad, but it was the antidote to bands that flirted with the devil, I guess. It's funny how both sides of that debate really lost and wound up either expressed in really dark metal or in a sort of hybrid rock/country that most religious music that tries to ape secular forms takes. But nowhere near the pop of yore. What a weird world we lived in, where the devil and God were fighting it out in pop metal.
Anyway, metal was always a going concern for the teenagers among us because of the devil worship and stuff like that. I remember my earnest friends liking the message that Stryper had. It allowed them to listen to metal and justify it to their parents. I grew up in a looser household, had no such content restrictions, and was largely agnostic to begin with. Stryper was not my bag, really.
But they were really big in households that otherwise intervened and didn't allow metal. I remember my friend having a poster on the wall, justified to his Mom as being in God's service. I remember the 7-7-7 or the ridiculousness of it all.
It was really bad, but it was the antidote to bands that flirted with the devil, I guess. It's funny how both sides of that debate really lost and wound up either expressed in really dark metal or in a sort of hybrid rock/country that most religious music that tries to ape secular forms takes. But nowhere near the pop of yore. What a weird world we lived in, where the devil and God were fighting it out in pop metal.
plinko
Footballguy
From my perspective, and my friend group at the time, most of whom were also in my Catholic Youth group... Stryper were solid and respectable because the songs were actually pretty good. But none of our parents gave a crap what we listened to anyway, which was nice.
Lyrical content aside, they're basically Dokken-lite.
We're working our way through the second tier hair dudes
42. Extreme
OK two concerns about Kid Ego
- Word always was this song was about David Lee Roth? If so, why is this song about David Lee Roth? Did he snub these guys in some way? David Lee Roth is a goof, I can think of bigger egos than David Lee Roth, in much smaller bands, without even trying.
- Apparently Gary Cherone hates/disowns this song now? Did he make up with Dave? He would later replace Dave's replacement and it would go super well. Also, does Gary know that, now that all the smoke's cleared, this is still pretty much his best song?
Presented without comment or opinion, Extreme had an anti-abortion ballad on their first record. Not trying to stir up emotions, I am only here to present interesting information.
On their next album they made a love song that many people seem to think is about a young Mennonite couple who are saying "I love you" to each other but not yet ####ing.
Me, I'm not sure Nuno and Gary are so clever, in any case.
Their first record was mostly a really fun listen if not anything particularly new. They too were on a thing about teenage lassies but we can assume at the very least they were using a condom.
Their second album was mostly pretty awful, save for the two acoustic numbers
More Than Words
Hole Hearted
On their third album they tried to put up another acoustic hit, Tragic Comic, which is tragically fu-fu-cking sta-stupid
BUT, I have to say, as a whole I LIKED Extreme III, and I still appreciate the three bombastic, introspective, ridiculous tracks that make up Side III
As for Van Halen III, well, I remember checking out the CD from the library and copying it. I kind of liked this one, bombastic as well. (LIVE!) Not much else to say, other than I doubt I'll think to touch on this later period again when we get to the VH stuff
Tom Breihan Number Ones on More Than Words
Lyrical content aside, they're basically Dokken-lite.
We're working our way through the second tier hair dudes
42. Extreme
OK two concerns about Kid Ego
- Word always was this song was about David Lee Roth? If so, why is this song about David Lee Roth? Did he snub these guys in some way? David Lee Roth is a goof, I can think of bigger egos than David Lee Roth, in much smaller bands, without even trying.
- Apparently Gary Cherone hates/disowns this song now? Did he make up with Dave? He would later replace Dave's replacement and it would go super well. Also, does Gary know that, now that all the smoke's cleared, this is still pretty much his best song?
Presented without comment or opinion, Extreme had an anti-abortion ballad on their first record. Not trying to stir up emotions, I am only here to present interesting information.
On their next album they made a love song that many people seem to think is about a young Mennonite couple who are saying "I love you" to each other but not yet ####ing.
Me, I'm not sure Nuno and Gary are so clever, in any case.
Their first record was mostly a really fun listen if not anything particularly new. They too were on a thing about teenage lassies but we can assume at the very least they were using a condom.
Their second album was mostly pretty awful, save for the two acoustic numbers
More Than Words
Hole Hearted
On their third album they tried to put up another acoustic hit, Tragic Comic, which is tragically fu-fu-cking sta-stupid
BUT, I have to say, as a whole I LIKED Extreme III, and I still appreciate the three bombastic, introspective, ridiculous tracks that make up Side III
As for Van Halen III, well, I remember checking out the CD from the library and copying it. I kind of liked this one, bombastic as well. (LIVE!) Not much else to say, other than I doubt I'll think to touch on this later period again when we get to the VH stuff
Tom Breihan Number Ones on More Than Words
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Post-Hagar VH could survive Eddie getting sober OR Harry Cherone...but not both.
Hole Hearted isn't a terrible song though.
Hole Hearted isn't a terrible song though.
zamboni
Footballguy