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Top 12 Fantasy QB's from here on out (1 Viewer)

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Team Smokin'

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What a year for Brady and company so far :unsure:

If you had to predict the top 12 fantasy QB's from here on out - how would you rank them.

Here's my best shot right now:

Tier 1: perhaps a flip flop :goodposting:

1) P. Manning

2) T. Brady

Tier 2: Seems like there are only 4 QB's that will be steady day in and day out

3) C. Palmer

4) T. Romo

Tier 3: Hopefuls

5) D. Anderson

6) D. McNabb

7) J. Kitna

8) M. Hasselbeck

9) B. Favre

10) E. Manning

11) D. Brees

Tier 4: Ties - good games here and there

12) M. Schaub

12) B. Roesthlisberger

12) P. Rivers

Your Thoughts?

 
Bulger, lol. Yeah right. Bulger to Hagans, Touchdown! I like D. Anderson as a Top 5 qb from here on out. He's a mad bomber!

 
Roethlisberger will probably put up better numbers in the second half due to shootouts with New England, Cincinnati x2, and Cleveland (they started Frye against the Steelers in week one).

 
I'm not sure exactly how my top 12 QB list would shake out for the remainder of the season... but I think Anderson would fall in the 8-10 range for me.

 
to not mention Garrard in a top 10 list is kind of ridiculous. He's already had his bye week and is in the top 10 in most scoring systems for points per game...his 30 to 40 rushing yards a game help quite a bit

 
This one is a darkhorse for sure but Brian Griese happens to have the easiest passing schedule remaining in the league. Average opponent gives up over 223 y.p.g. from here on out. Combine that with two other convenient factors that Ced. Benson and the ground game is a mess as well as the defense is a below average unit right now and you have the makings of a surprisingly strong 2nd half, at least from a pure fantasy perspective.

 
very intriguing thread.

I agree with the Griese sentiment. sketchy running game plus an underperforming D equals lots of passing. The only caviat here is if peterson takes over. I think he'd restore the running game.

with the exception of games @Pitt and @Balt, Cle has some soft games where Anderson can get into the top 12 easy.

Oct 28 @St. Louis 1:00pm

Nov 4 Seattle 4:05pm

Nov 11 @Pittsburgh 1:00pm

Nov 18 @Baltimore 1:00pm

Nov 25 Houston 1:00pm

Dec 2 @Arizona 4:05pm

Dec 9 @N.Y. Jets 4:15pm

Dec 16 Buffalo 1:00pm

Dec 23 @Cincinnati 1:00pm

Dec 30 San Francisco 1:00pm

Sleeper: The Jets have some real tough games, but Clemens looked sharp against a tough Ravens D in Balt after getting beat up early. If Pennington looks bad (again) against a bad Cincy D, Clemens could get the start at home against Buffalo the following week.

 
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Let's not forget that the DET D will continue to give up lots o' pts. and demand that Kitna will have to chuck it a bunch. And he has K. Jones to pick up decent yds with safe outs. I say Anderson and Kitna have the best chance to finish top 5.

 
So there is no chance Brady Quinn takes over in Cle at some point this year? I would think Anderson would have to play extremely well with few if any bad weeks in order to hold the job all season.

 
I am a big fan of Anderson. This guy has scored consistently against even the toughest defenses and has shown the potential to have monster games. I rank him 5th behind Brady, Romo, Palmer and Manning.

Think about this: In the last 10 games Anderson has played, he has put up 2,289 yards and 21 TDs. Average that out for a 16 game season and you get 3,600 yards and 33 TDs. There is no reason not to believe in Derrick Anderson as an emerging fantasy star.

 
3nOut said:
Iwannabeacowboybaby! said:
Farve should be up in the Tier 2 group. Garrard and Campbell in the tier 3 group.
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Why is everyone so high on Favre? In my league he is averaging fewer points per game than Griese and Big Ben, and even Rosenfels and Lemon (I know, those lat two are flukes :thumbup: .
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First of all, Big Ben should be rated pretty high. If not in the top 5, then in the top 7. And so should Brett Favre. Why shouldnt he be? If you could have your choice between Favre, Rosenfels, Lemon and Griese from here on out would you seriously not take Favre? And would you really prefer Cutler, Eli Manning or Hasselbeck going forward? I could understand if someone was really bullish on one of these guys (espeically Eli with the way the Giants have been playing recently) and would prefer them over Favre, but if you think the Pack will continue to play the way they have until now there's no reason to think Favre won't outperform these guys for the rest of the season.
 
bcr8f said:
mlball77 said:
I'm not sure exactly how my top 12 QB list would shake out for the remainder of the season... but I think Anderson would fall in the 8-10 range for me.
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Or maybe 11 if he continues to improve, but he may not.
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That makes sense... if he "improves" he goes from Top 5 to Number 11... man those other guys must be on fire for the rest of the season. Oh, and Anderson should "improve".... his schedule improves... where as half his games were against PIT, NWE, BAL, now only about 1/4 are against that tier... and the number of nice matchups double.Maybe your league doesn't reward rushing TDs to QB, counts INTs as -10, and caps QB output... otherwise, I'm lost.I think he "settles" a bit... but ends in the 8-10 range. The Brown are going into Week 7 with one win away from matching last year's total. If an Anderson led Browns team gets them from 4-12 to 8-8 (they need 4 wins amongst STL, HOU, ARI, NYJ, BUF, CIN, SF .. and perhaps one upset vs PIT, BAL [beat them once already], SEA [who can't even run away with the NFC West] ....in that division.... don't plan on Quinn anytime soon. Most of those teams have open offenses too, so there should be more eye-for-an-eye scoring fests down the road.Braylon is in his 3rd year breakout, that some of us saw coming.KW2 is a workhorseJamal has something to prove (if he can stay healthy)A playbook that isn't afraid to sling it....And a coach who had gone from 6-10, to 4-12, with a team that has had 2 winning seasons in the last 14 years.
 
Team Smokin said:
1) P. Manning2) T. Brady3) C. Palmer4) T. Romo5) D. Anderson6) D. McNabb7) J. Kitna8) M. Hasselbeck9) B. Favre10) E. Manning11) D. Brees12) M. Schaub12) B. Roesthlisberger12) P. Rivers
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BradyPeytonRomoPalmerEliFavreRoethlisbergerHasselbeckMcNabbAndersonGarciaRiversBreesGriese
 
3nOut said:
Iwannabeacowboybaby! said:
Farve should be up in the Tier 2 group. Garrard and Campbell in the tier 3 group.
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Why is everyone so high on Favre? In my league he is averaging fewer points per game than Griese and Big Ben, and even Rosenfels and Lemon (I know, those lat two are flukes :football: .
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Favre is #2 in Completions, Attempts. #4 in yards and ypg and has 9 TDs. His rating is 87.0. The only reason he isn't top 5 in a FF league is if you are in a very TD heavy league.
 
3nOut said:
Iwannabeacowboybaby! said:
Farve should be up in the Tier 2 group. Garrard and Campbell in the tier 3 group.
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Why is everyone so high on Favre? In my league he is averaging fewer points per game than Griese and Big Ben, and even Rosenfels and Lemon (I know, those lat two are flukes :rolleyes: .
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4 pts passing TD and 6 pts rushing TD and 1/20 yardage, Favre = #9 through last week which was his byeI don't know what kind of scoring sytem you are using but based on the above, Favre = 19.39Roethlisberger = 19.98& Griese = 12.42 and Lemon = 18.88
 
FantasyTrader said:
This one is a darkhorse for sure but Brian Griese happens to have the easiest passing schedule remaining in the league. Average opponent gives up over 223 y.p.g. from here on out. Combine that with two other convenient factors that Ced. Benson and the ground game is a mess as well as the defense is a below average unit right now and you have the makings of a surprisingly strong 2nd half, at least from a pure fantasy perspective.
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That's why I was pleased to see the Moose on the waiver wire this week. :nerd:
 
Cheesedawg said:
So there is no chance Brady Quinn takes over in Cle at some point this year? I would think Anderson would have to play extremely well with few if any bad weeks in order to hold the job all season.
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I don't understand why people believe Anderson's job is in trouble. The Browns are playing well, and right in the hunt in the AFC North. Throwing a rookie qb into the fire isn't exactly the best learning experience. I think DA would have to be pretty freaking bad to get the hook at this point in the season.
 
Steel Town said:
Cheesedawg said:
So there is no chance Brady Quinn takes over in Cle at some point this year? I would think Anderson would have to play extremely well with few if any bad weeks in order to hold the job all season.
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I don't understand why people believe Anderson's job is in trouble. The Browns are playing well, and right in the hunt in the AFC North. Throwing a rookie qb into the fire isn't exactly the best learning experience. I think DA would have to be pretty freaking bad to get the hook at this point in the season.
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As long as the Browns are in the playoff hunt (and/or Anderson plays adequately), Anderson will remain their starter. They're 3-3 now with the following upcoming schedule:@ St. Louis (worst team in league; #25 for QB fantasy points against)Seattle@ Pittsburgh (came off the bench to put up decent numbers in Week 1 game)@ Baltimore (already had a 2-TD game against them)Houston (#22 in fantasy points against)@ Arizona@ NYJ (#28 in fantasy points against)Buffalo (#20 in fantasy points against)@ Cincy (#30 in fantasy points against)He's got a tough stretch in November but arguably the easiest fantasy playoff schedule in the league.
 
Ilov80s said:
Andeson below McNabb and Hasselbeck?
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In the same tier but I guess if I have to rank them I'd rank him slightly lower yes. All within a few points of one another from here on out.Hasselbeck is due to get back some weapons and that should make a big difference.Anderson and McNabb are closer. As far as McNabb has fallen I still just think he's better than Anderson. Reggie Brown is showing signs of having a pulse since the bye week. LJ smith just returned to practice having nursed a sore groin for the first half of the season. He can't contribute much less than he has been.I guess I'm not knocking Anderson so much as expecting improvement by Hass/McNabb.
 
[scooter] said:
Steel Town said:
Cheesedawg said:
So there is no chance Brady Quinn takes over in Cle at some point this year? I would think Anderson would have to play extremely well with few if any bad weeks in order to hold the job all season.
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I don't understand why people believe Anderson's job is in trouble. The Browns are playing well, and right in the hunt in the AFC North. Throwing a rookie qb into the fire isn't exactly the best learning experience. I think DA would have to be pretty freaking bad to get the hook at this point in the season.
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As long as the Browns are in the playoff hunt (and/or Anderson plays adequately), Anderson will remain their starter. They're 3-3 now with the following upcoming schedule:@ St. Louis (worst team in league; #25 for QB fantasy points against)Seattle@ Pittsburgh (came off the bench to put up decent numbers in Week 1 game)@ Baltimore (already had a 2-TD game against them)Houston (#22 in fantasy points against)@ Arizona@ NYJ (#28 in fantasy points against)Buffalo (#20 in fantasy points against)@ Cincy (#30 in fantasy points against)He's got a tough stretch in November but arguably the easiest fantasy playoff schedule in the league.
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I think Anderson is benched for Quinn before he can even reach the soft weeks and doesn't even end up near the Top 15. St.L gets Jackson back this week and I think the Rams finally pull one out at home. Sea will be back at full strength and ready for their run. @Pit & @ Bal are brutal places to play. That makes Cle 3-7. He may still be around for Hou and @ Ari but those are no slouches either so I think Cle will start the Quinn experiment around then as Cle will be behind Pit, Bal, & Cin by then in that division.
 
TheHosers said:
[scooter] said:
Steel Town said:
Cheesedawg said:
So there is no chance Brady Quinn takes over in Cle at some point this year? I would think Anderson would have to play extremely well with few if any bad weeks in order to hold the job all season.
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I don't understand why people believe Anderson's job is in trouble. The Browns are playing well, and right in the hunt in the AFC North. Throwing a rookie qb into the fire isn't exactly the best learning experience. I think DA would have to be pretty freaking bad to get the hook at this point in the season.
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As long as the Browns are in the playoff hunt (and/or Anderson plays adequately), Anderson will remain their starter. They're 3-3 now with the following upcoming schedule:@ St. Louis (worst team in league; #25 for QB fantasy points against)Seattle@ Pittsburgh (came off the bench to put up decent numbers in Week 1 game)@ Baltimore (already had a 2-TD game against them)Houston (#22 in fantasy points against)@ Arizona@ NYJ (#28 in fantasy points against)Buffalo (#20 in fantasy points against)@ Cincy (#30 in fantasy points against)He's got a tough stretch in November but arguably the easiest fantasy playoff schedule in the league.
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I think Anderson is benched for Quinn before he can even reach the soft weeks and doesn't even end up near the Top 15. St.L gets Jackson back this week and I think the Rams finally pull one out at home. Sea will be back at full strength and ready for their run. @Pit & @ Bal are brutal places to play. That makes Cle 3-7. He may still be around for Hou and @ Ari but those are no slouches either so I think Cle will start the Quinn experiment around then as Cle will be behind Pit, Bal, & Cin by then in that division.
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Why would you bench Anderson?? You have to rememeber that this is the first time that Cleveland has been competitive in well since forever and a day ago. IF they can stay in the wild card hunt then Anderson will continue to play
 
thayman said:
Why would you bench Anderson?? You have to rememeber that this is the first time that Cleveland has been competitive in well since forever and a day ago. IF they can stay in the wild card hunt then Anderson will continue to play
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I'm not nearly as convinced as you seem to be that they'll remain in a WC hunt. STL is pretty awful so they certainly have a shot at winning this week but I doubt they get more than two wins in their next six games. How many do you see them winning out of their next six?
 
[scooter] said:
Steel Town said:
Cheesedawg said:
So there is no chance Brady Quinn takes over in Cle at some point this year? I would think Anderson would have to play extremely well with few if any bad weeks in order to hold the job all season.
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I don't understand why people believe Anderson's job is in trouble. The Browns are playing well, and right in the hunt in the AFC North. Throwing a rookie qb into the fire isn't exactly the best learning experience. I think DA would have to be pretty freaking bad to get the hook at this point in the season.
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As long as the Browns are in the playoff hunt (and/or Anderson plays adequately), Anderson will remain their starter. They're 3-3 now with the following upcoming schedule:@ St. Louis (worst team in league; #25 for QB fantasy points against)Seattle@ Pittsburgh (came off the bench to put up decent numbers in Week 1 game)@ Baltimore (already had a 2-TD game against them)Houston (#22 in fantasy points against)@ Arizona@ NYJ (#28 in fantasy points against)Buffalo (#20 in fantasy points against)@ Cincy (#30 in fantasy points against)He's got a tough stretch in November but arguably the easiest fantasy playoff schedule in the league.
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This is a brutal travel sched for even the best teams. 6 road games in 9 weeks!! Anybody who bets on football knows this type of scheduling eats up teams. Sorry Brown fans this is unfortunate for a young improving team.
 
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I have Palmer and Anderson and am finding it hard to decide who to start. If I had started Anderson every game this year instead of Palmer I would have one more win. Cleveland has a much improved offensive line with Joe Thomas. My league does not deduct for turnovers and is very TD heavy, whith 6pt for passing TD and 1 pt for 50y passing. Anderson has a great playoff schedule, and a very poor defense so they are seldom going to be just trying to run the clock out. Look at week 16 for the championship, Anderson vs. Palmer. They had 5 and 6 TD passes against each other the first time!

The lack of love for Anderson from many of the posters is almost beyond belief, but go on as you wish. I guess the coach could become an idiot and pull him, but he seems to agree that Anderson is doing well and has made statements that many of the interceptions weren't Anderson's fault as well.

Palmer is still a great start, however, and this will only improve with Chris Henry coming along. I may keep Anderson just to keep him away from the competition but will likely start either one based on match up. I was pretty clearly starting Anderson this week against Stl instead of Palmer against Pits, but now that Cutler chewed Pit up, it has me reconsidering. Also, Pit has a better offense so it will keep Palmer throwing. Stl is probably the one team that will have trouble scoring on Cleveland but I hope they pull it together. I have Braylon starting as well!

So far looks like I have a good matchup perspective.

Who else would have started Graham and Watson last week and sat the studs, Ronnie Brown, Henry, Jacobs, and Lynch?!

 
"OCT26 Steve King, of ClevelandBrowns.com, reports Cleveland Browns general manager Phil Savage believes QB Derek Anderson is the team's MVP so far this season. Anderson is third in the NFL with 14 touchdown passes and is on pace to break the franchise record of 30 touchdown passes set in 1980"

This pretty much quells the retds who think Anderson will get pulled for Quinn.

Link

 
The OP had Peyton over Brady for the rest of the year. Does anyone else believe that Peyton's fantasy numbers will be superior to Brady for the rest of the year?

 
BoltBacker said:
thayman said:
Why would you bench Anderson?? You have to rememeber that this is the first time that Cleveland has been competitive in well since forever and a day ago. IF they can stay in the wild card hunt then Anderson will continue to play
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I'm not nearly as convinced as you seem to be that they'll remain in a WC hunt. STL is pretty awful so they certainly have a shot at winning this week but I doubt they get more than two wins in their next six games. How many do you see them winning out of their next six?
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well they should beat STL, and have a decent shot at SEA, BAL, ARI. HOU depends on how strong Shaub and Johnson are when they come back. PIT will be a loss. Then in their last 4 they have NYJ, BUF, CIN, and SF. They should be able to go 3-1 in that stretch. So even if they go 3-3 or even 2-4 over the next 6 games they are looking at being 6-6, or 5-7 with four winable games to close out the year.
 
Team Smokin said:
What a year for Brady and company so far :hophead: If you had to predict the top 12 fantasy QB's from here on out - how would you rank them.Here's my best shot right now:Tier 1: perhaps a flip flop :moneybag: 1) P. Manning2) T. BradyTier 2: Seems like there are only 4 QB's that will be steady day in and day out3) C. Palmer4) T. RomoTier 3: Hopefuls5) D. Anderson6) D. McNabb7) J. Kitna8) M. Hasselbeck9) B. Favre10) E. Manning11) D. BreesTier 4: Ties - good games here and there12) M. Schaub12) B. Roesthlisberger12) P. RiversYour Thoughts?
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As long as Warner can stay healthy, his schedule is very nice for him to have a solid second half.
 
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wolfeman said:
Who would you perfer anderson or farve?
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I am trying to decide this myself. I own Favre, and despite the number of attempts he has each week dont know if he can keep it up. Yet I have a trade worked out for Anderson and feel like I'm selling a lock to play the rest of the year for a possible flash in the pan. Others thoughts?
 
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phowler13 said:
wolfeman said:
Who would you perfer anderson or farve?
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I am trying to decide this myself. I own Favre, and despite the number of attempts he has each week dont know if he can keep it up. Yet I have a trade worked out for Anderson and feel like I'm selling a lock to play the rest of the year for a possible flash in the pan. Others thoughts?
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I like both to be honest. I think that Anderson is going to parlay this season into a nice gig somewhere else next year. I think Favre has a very good groupd of receivers but their running game is not very good, meaning he will throw some picks and maybe some new looks later in the season from in division teams. I also think that Clevelands defense may play into the hands of an Anderson type qb. If the D stinks, it means the O will be on the field, and since this O is pretty good, then it will turn that into more points. I dont know if I could go against Favre, but I think Anderson has a good shot to beat his numbers. Just my take as an outsider who owns neither player.
 
Depends on whether your league is PPC and how many pts for PaTD's (assuming PPC & 3 for PaTD and -2 for INT):

Brady

Manning

Romo

Palmer

Favre

Brees

Hassle

Anderson

Griese

Roth

Eli

Kitna

 
thayman said:
BoltBacker said:
thayman said:
Why would you bench Anderson?? You have to rememeber that this is the first time that Cleveland has been competitive in well since forever and a day ago. IF they can stay in the wild card hunt then Anderson will continue to play
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I'm not nearly as convinced as you seem to be that they'll remain in a WC hunt. STL is pretty awful so they certainly have a shot at winning this week but I doubt they get more than two wins in their next six games. How many do you see them winning out of their next six?
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well they should beat STL, and have a decent shot at SEA, BAL, ARI. HOU depends on how strong Shaub and Johnson are when they come back. PIT will be a loss. Then in their last 4 they have NYJ, BUF, CIN, and SF. They should be able to go 3-1 in that stretch. So even if they go 3-3 or even 2-4 over the next 6 games they are looking at being 6-6, or 5-7 with four winable games to close out the year.
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I don't agree they have a decent shot vs SEA(after their Bye), or at BAL(just a better team and CLE still can't stop the run/McGahee). They may have a shot if Warner is still playing for ARZ at the time cos he'll turn the ball over about 3-4 times killing his own offense and giving CLE a shorter field to work. I also think HOU is simple a better team if they have anyone healthy, remember that game is being played at the end of NOV and the injury report may be much different by then. If they have Schaub/Green they should be able to handle CLE.
 
I think not having Warner in that lineup is a mistake. Review their remaining schedule and once Boldin and Fitz are back to 100%, Warner could be atop of tier #3 knocking on the floor.

Sun 11/4 at Tampa Bay

Sun 11/11 Detroit

Sun 11/18 at Cincinnati

Sun 11/25 San Francisco

Sun 12/2 Cleveland

Sun 12/9 at Seattle

Sun 12/16 at New Orleans

Sun 12/23 Atlanta

Sun 12/30 St. Louis

 
Very interesting reading the comments and watching the stock market trends rise and fall.

Anderson was on bye so the long anticipated wait is nearly over, yet in the back of our minds is how will the Brownies play. Will they keep winning enough to warrant pushing back the Quinn experiment? All eyes on this game. Anderson owners licking their chops and holding their breath. Is this the real deal?

What else has happened in one week?

Warner is an intriquing call as well. Gets a tad more healthy this week.

Big Ben is on the rise.

David Garrard knocking on the door.

Most everyone's hero Brett Favre has takin' a dip.

Griese seems to be getting his fantasy stats.

Kitna has been disappointing after a fast start. Time to rebound. Lots of weapons.

Romo holding his own? Not quite the second coming just yet. Ask Parcells.

I can't believe how hot Brady is? And Moss, what about Welker :thumbup:

Will Peyton and company reign supreme? Without a healthy Harrison his numbers take a slight hit.

Palmer - Cinci playing catch up.

McNabb - simply is. Some outstanding weeks, some not.

Eli's coming - on that is.

Drew Brees - getting better.

Right Now - Today I would go:

Tier 1

1. Brady - all by himself. He looks so smooth and so in control - hitting receivers in stride. A perfect compliment.

Tier 2

2. P Manning - w/o Marvin Peyton takes a slight hit. With Harrison back behind Brady.

Tier 3 - here is where it gets very interesting

3. Romo - so many weapons and it's Dallas

4. Palmer - who else would you rather have?

5. Anderson - until he proves us wrong he deserves to be here.

#'s 6 - 10 are soooo close

6. McNabb - hmmmm....do I really rate him this high?

7. Big Ben - Just a feeling

8. Hasselbeck - weapons getting healthy

9. Warner - I'm a believer

10. E. Manning - simply solid

Tier 4 - even these guys can be top 5 possibilities

11. Favre - love em yet the Pack can lay stinker here and there

12. Kitna - had him top 5 not too long ago.

12. Brees - show me some more.

Just missing:

Griese, Garrard, Schaub, Rivers

 
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