Top 8 picks in the 2006 NFL draft (2 Viewers)

[Andy Dufresne]

I think what we'll end up seeing this year is teams in the 4 - 10 spots trading out to accumulate draft picks.The last couple of years, there just hasn't been the sure-fire talent to make it worth the while of a team trading UP. This year, there certainly are, and for the teams at the top of the draft that obviously have more than one spot to fill, this would come as a boon as well.If I were New Orleans, for example, sitting at 4/5 and I could trade for a later 1st and another 2nd or more, I'd do that in a heartbeat.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I doubt the Jets invest another $60M in a QB in the draft. Even though Chad is likely done - he is on the books for an ungodly cap hit for at least 2 more years. I think the Jets will draft the stud RB and bring in a moderately priced veteran to challenge Chad rather than replace him.

Nope. Easier to find a good to great RB than there is a good to great QB. Even with the hit to Pennington, they'll take Leinart, if available.As always - IMO.

 

[Weapon of Mass Instruction]

Dont forget the Lions.

Or even *gasp* the Titans? McNair is due a big bonus, and Volek is not nearly as attractive an option long term as Leinart, and could bring some picks in a trade. It seems obvious, but why wouldnt you want to reunite a QB with the OC that he flourished with in college?

Titans will absolutely not move up to get Leinart..or Bush, for that matter. Titans will take either an OT or a LB with their first pick. It is doubtful that OT Brad Hopkins will return next year. They'd go for a safety...if their was one to pick but it appears none are of that quality.Titans will take an OT / LB or move down.

That having been said, IF McNair commits to a couple of more years, I expect them to trade Volek and get a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round. They can probably get a late 1st or early 2nd for Volek. I'm thinking they'll get someone along the lines of Jay Cutler in the 2nd or 3rd, depending upon what they get for Volek.

I know the Titans were a longshot to trade up for Leinart, but it was fun speculation. OT makes complete sense for them and therell be prospects worthy of their top half of the first pick. I also think a guy like Michael Huff could creep into consideration if they are looking at safeties.

1. Trade down.2. Draft an OT.

Plus, if they can get a good SS, then it is "goodbye, Tank Williams." Vincent Fuller will the the FS next year.

Brad Hopkins -- gone. Therefore, we draft an OT.

Justin Hartwig, C -- gone.

Benji Olson, OG -- probably gone.

Peter Sirmon, LB -- I don't like it, but probably gone.

Tyrone Calico, WR -- doesn't look good. I BELIEVE he's a restricted FA after this year.

Travis Henry, RB -- gone, and should have never been there.

Billy Volek, QB -- traded, provided they can get a QB in the draft.

McNair -- back, with a multi year deal that doesn't have cap implications if cut after year 2, when he'll retire.

*PacMan Jones -- ProBowl by 2008 as a CB, 2007 as a returner.

 

[Weapon of Mass Instruction]

Besides, the Titans will end up with at least 4, and maybe 5 wins. Probably pick around #8.

 

[Kiddnets]

I doubt the Jets invest another $60M in a QB in the draft.  Even though Chad is likely done - he is on the books for an ungodly cap hit for at least 2 more years.  I think the Jets will draft the stud RB and bring in a moderately priced veteran to challenge Chad rather than replace him.

Nope. Easier to find a good to great RB than there is a good to great QB. Even with the hit to Pennington, they'll take Leinart, if available.As always - IMO.

I fon't watch a ton of USC - what is the read out on Leinart. I have heard him compared to Pennington (smart player not a great arm) which scares me! Is this true? I know he is a winner but does he have the physical tools? How does he compare to last few years of QBs taken? Smith, Rivers, Eli, etc

 

[Chaos Commish]

That having been said, IF McNair commits to a couple of more years, I expect them to trade Volek and get a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round. They can probably get a late 1st or early 2nd for Volek. I'm thinking they'll get someone along the lines of Jay Cutler in the 2nd or 3rd, depending upon what they get for Volek.

Cutler's stock has been rapidly on the rise. I'd just about guarantee he goes before Jacobs if Omar declares, which he likely will. At this point I doubt Cutler lasts 15 picks and Jacobs goes after that. Neither will be available in the 2nd or 3rd round.

 

[Bloom]

That having been said, IF McNair commits to a couple of more years, I expect them to trade Volek and get a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round.  They can probably get a late 1st or early 2nd for Volek.  I'm thinking they'll get someone along the lines of Jay Cutler in the 2nd or 3rd, depending upon what they get for Volek.

Cutler's stock has been rapidly on the rise. I'd just about guarantee he goes before Jacobs if Omar declares, which he likely will. At this point I doubt Cutler lasts 15 picks and Jacobs goes after that. Neither will be available in the 2nd or 3rd round.

I also think Cutler's the 3rd QB off the board. He's a tough Mofo and very athletic.

 

[Bloom]

I doubt the Jets invest another $60M in a QB in the draft.  Even though Chad is likely done - he is on the books for an ungodly cap hit for at least 2 more years.  I think the Jets will draft the stud RB and bring in a moderately priced veteran to challenge Chad rather than replace him.

Nope. Easier to find a good to great RB than there is a good to great QB. Even with the hit to Pennington, they'll take Leinart, if available.As always - IMO.

I fon't watch a ton of USC - what is the read out on Leinart. I have heard him compared to Pennington (smart player not a great arm) which scares me! Is this true? I know he is a winner but does he have the physical tools? How does he compare to last few years of QBs taken? Smith, Rivers, Eli, etc

Pennington and Brady are both decent comparisons. Doesnt have a ridiculous arm or athleticism, but is a ideal cerebral QB and leader - A++ on intangibles.

 

[Buckeyedawgs]

Hawk will make a great pro because he covers the field sideline to sideline like nothing you've ever seen. He also has tackling and football instincts that can't be taught. But as a top 3 pick might be over stating a bit. It will depend on the linebacker needs of the worst teams. I would think the first linebacker taken but perhaps mid first round. He has the speed and range to play safety in the pros too.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I fon't watch a ton of USC - what is the read out on Leinart. I have heard him compared to Pennington (smart player not a great arm) which scares me! Is this true? I know he is a winner but does he have the physical tools? How does he compare to last few years of QBs taken? Smith, Rivers, Eli, etc

Pennington and Brady are both decent comparisons. Doesnt have a ridiculous arm or athleticism, but is a ideal cerebral QB and leader - A++ on intangibles.

I think the idea of arm strength is overrated, as is 40 times for RBs.Lots of wildly successful QBs have average arm strength. Brady for one, Montana another. Even Drew Brees and his 2005 version Kyle Orton have proven that you don't need a cannon to succeed.

Leinart is very accurate, which makes up for arm strength a bit whereas he typically puts the ball only where the receiver can catch it. Like the question marks that surrounded Carson Palmer, those will be quickly dispelled.

 

[Bull Dozier]

I doubt the Jets invest another $60M in a QB in the draft.  Even though Chad is likely done - he is on the books for an ungodly cap hit for at least 2 more years.  I think the Jets will draft the stud RB and bring in a moderately priced veteran to challenge Chad rather than replace him.

Nope. Easier to find a good to great RB than there is a good to great QB. Even with the hit to Pennington, they'll take Leinart, if available.As always - IMO.

I fon't watch a ton of USC - what is the read out on Leinart. I have heard him compared to Pennington (smart player not a great arm) which scares me! Is this true? I know he is a winner but does he have the physical tools? How does he compare to last few years of QBs taken? Smith, Rivers, Eli, etc

Pennington and Brady are both decent comparisons. Doesnt have a ridiculous arm or athleticism, but is a ideal cerebral QB and leader - A++ on intangibles.

Doesn't Brady have a rocket arm compared to Pennington? Even before the shoulder troubles arose, Pennington was criticized for not being able to make deep throws. I haven't heard that same criticism of Brady.

 

[el-gato-grande]

Here's my top 8, assuming Quinn comes out and the order is as such. I'm pretty new at this, so be gentle.

1. Texans – Matt Leinart, QB-USC

2. 49ers – Reggie Bush, RB-USC

3. Saints – Brady Quinn, QB-Notre Dame

4. Jets – DeAngelo Williams, RB-Memphis

5. Cardinals – Omar Jacobs, QB Bowling Green

6. Ravens – D. Ferguson, OL-Virginia

7. Titans – AJ Hawk, LB-Ohio State

8. Packers – L. Maroney, RB-Minnesota

If the Cards draft anything other than offensive line in the first round, I will personally, out of principle, demolition that new Jiffy Pop looking stadium they are building. If they feel they need a QB, then get him through freakin' free agency.

 

[Bloom]

Here's my top 8, assuming Quinn comes out and the order is as such. I'm pretty new at this, so be gentle.

1. Texans – Matt Leinart, QB-USC

2. 49ers – Reggie Bush, RB-USC

3. Saints – Brady Quinn, QB-Notre Dame

4. Jets – DeAngelo Williams, RB-Memphis

5. Cardinals – Omar Jacobs, QB Bowling Green

6. Ravens – D. Ferguson, OL-Virginia

7. Titans – AJ Hawk, LB-Ohio State

8. Packers – L. Maroney, RB-Minnesota

If the Cards draft anything other than offensive line in the first round, I will personally, out of principle, demolition that new Jiffy Pop looking stadium they are building. If they feel they need a QB, then get him through freakin' free agency.

are you ready to give up on oliver ross, or on leonard davis?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Here's my top 8, assuming Quinn comes out and the order is as such. I'm pretty new at this, so be gentle.

1. Texans – Matt Leinart, QB-USC

2. 49ers – Reggie Bush, RB-USC

3. Saints – Brady Quinn, QB-Notre Dame

4. Jets – DeAngelo Williams, RB-Memphis

5. Cardinals – Omar Jacobs, QB Bowling Green

6. Ravens – D. Ferguson, OL-Virginia

7. Titans – AJ Hawk, LB-Ohio State

8. Packers – L. Maroney, RB-Minnesota

If the Cards draft anything other than offensive line in the first round, I will personally, out of principle, demolition that new Jiffy Pop looking stadium they are building. If they feel they need a QB, then get him through freakin' free agency.

Free agent QB? Here's your list:Anthony Wright UFA Ravens

Charlie Batch UFA Steelers

Chris Simms RFA Buccaneers

Chris Weinke UFA Panthers

Craig Nall UFA Packers

Damon Huard UFA Chiefs

Dave Ragone RFA Texans

Doug Flutie UFA Patriots

Drew Brees UFA Chargers

Jamie Martin UFA Rams

Jeff Blake UFA Bears

Jeff Garcia UFA Lions

Jesse Palmer UFA 49ers

Jon Kitna UFA Bengals

Josh McCown UFA Cardinals

Ken Dorsey RFA 49ers

Kliff Kingsbury RFA Jets

Kurt Warner UFA Cardinals

Sage Rosenfels UFA Dolphins

Seneca Wallace RFA Seahawks

Shane Matthews UFA Bills

Shaun Hill UFA Vikings

Tim Hasselbeck UFA Giants

Todd Collins UFA Chiefs

Ty Detmer UFA Falcons

Vinny Testaverde UFA Jet

See anything you like? Other than Kitna (Brees will be resigned by SD), I'd rather have a box of Oreos than any of these guys.

 

[Wreckincrew]

I doubt the Jets invest another $60M in a QB in the draft.  Even though Chad is likely done - he is on the books for an ungodly cap hit for at least 2 more years.  I think the Jets will draft the stud RB and bring in a moderately priced veteran to challenge Chad rather than replace him.

Nope. Easier to find a good to great RB than there is a good to great QB. Even with the hit to Pennington, they'll take Leinart, if available.As always - IMO.

I fon't watch a ton of USC - what is the read out on Leinart. I have heard him compared to Pennington (smart player not a great arm) which scares me! Is this true? I know he is a winner but does he have the physical tools? How does he compare to last few years of QBs taken? Smith, Rivers, Eli, etc

Pennington and Brady are both decent comparisons. Doesnt have a ridiculous arm or athleticism, but is a ideal cerebral QB and leader - A++ on intangibles.

Doesn't Brady have a rocket arm compared to Pennington? Even before the shoulder troubles arose, Pennington was criticized for not being able to make deep throws. I haven't heard that same criticism of Brady.

Brady's right arm is stronger from wearing all those heavy rings.

 

[Bloom]

See anything you like? Other than Kitna (Brees will be resigned by SD), I'd rather have a box of Oreos than any of these guys.

Its all about trading for Schaub, Garrard, or Rivers.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

See anything you like?  Other than Kitna (Brees will be resigned by SD), I'd rather have a box of Oreos than any of these guys.

Its all about trading for Schaub, Garrard, or Rivers.

What would the price be for Schaub or Rivers, do you suppose?

 

[el-gato-grande]

Here's my top 8, assuming Quinn comes out and the order is as such. I'm pretty new at this, so be gentle.

1. Texans – Matt Leinart, QB-USC

2. 49ers – Reggie Bush, RB-USC

3. Saints – Brady Quinn, QB-Notre Dame

4. Jets – DeAngelo Williams, RB-Memphis

5. Cardinals – Omar Jacobs, QB Bowling Green

6. Ravens – D. Ferguson, OL-Virginia

7. Titans – AJ Hawk, LB-Ohio State

8. Packers – L. Maroney, RB-Minnesota

If the Cards draft anything other than offensive line in the first round, I will personally, out of principle, demolition that new Jiffy Pop looking stadium they are building. If they feel they need a QB, then get him through freakin' free agency.

Free agent QB? Here's your list:Anthony Wright UFA Ravens

Charlie Batch UFA Steelers

Chris Simms RFA Buccaneers

Chris Weinke UFA Panthers

Craig Nall UFA Packers

Damon Huard UFA Chiefs

Dave Ragone RFA Texans

Doug Flutie UFA Patriots

Drew Brees UFA Chargers

Jamie Martin UFA Rams

Jeff Blake UFA Bears

Jeff Garcia UFA Lions

Jesse Palmer UFA 49ers

Jon Kitna UFA Bengals

Josh McCown UFA Cardinals

Ken Dorsey RFA 49ers

Kliff Kingsbury RFA Jets

Kurt Warner UFA Cardinals

Sage Rosenfels UFA Dolphins

Seneca Wallace RFA Seahawks

Shane Matthews UFA Bills

Shaun Hill UFA Vikings

Tim Hasselbeck UFA Giants

Todd Collins UFA Chiefs

Ty Detmer UFA Falcons

Vinny Testaverde UFA Jet

See anything you like? Other than Kitna (Brees will be resigned by SD), I'd rather have a box of Oreos than any of these guys.

Sorry, I meant via trade. Schaub, Volek, and Rivers come to mind. Rattay depending on how the Bucs situation pans out. You think any of those guys would want to come play catch with Boldin and Fitzgerald if the Cards address their O-Line situation?

 

[Jason Wood]

I'm not a fan of Cowherd so I don't listen to him much, but isn't his schtick supposed to be that he knows college football? Seems to me that his list proves otherwise, at least based on what we know at the end of November.

On Offense...

Quarterback: Leinart [uSC] is the top dog here. While I think he could be dethroned as the 1st overall pick, it's going to take a LOT to see him fall out of the top 2 or 3, and reasonably no other QB can challenge him. If Vince Young [uT] and/or Brady Quinn [Notre Dame] come out, I would say both have excellent shots at the top 15 with Young being the darkhorse [he could be a top 5 pick or a late 1st rounder depending on perceptions about his passing mechanics]. My guess is that neither guy comes out, but that Michigan State's Drew Stanton does and is a 1st rounder.

Running Back: Reggie Bush is obviously in a class of his own among RB prospects, and will be a top 3 pick this year if [when] he comes out. After seniors, DeAngelo Williams [Memphis] is the cream of the crop and will be a 1st rounder, it's just a matter of where in the 1st round he goes IMHO. Among underclassmen, Laurence Maroney [Minny] and LenDale White [uSC] will battle for the title of "3rd best running back." My guess is that White, especially if his injury this week is noteworthy, comes back to be the lead dog at USC next year. He could push for 2,000 yards next year as USC indoctrinates a new QB and relies more heavily on the running game.

Wide Receiver: It's a weak class on paper at wideout. Derek Hagan [ASU] has done enough to retain the 1st round grade he entered the season with, having passed Troy Walters as the all-time leader in Pac 10 receptions. Just not sure his measurables are going to be enough to make him an elite [read: top 10 overall] option. New Mexico's Hank Baskett could entice scouts. He's highly productive and big (6'4", 225 lbs.) and has ups (he's a collegiate high jump champ) but must shred that dreaded "possession" label by running a fast enough time in workouts. You have to figure some group of underclassmen will make their mark, sensing it's a weak senior class. Names that could play into the 1st round are: Jarrett Hicks (Tex.Tech), Steve Smith (USC), Santonio Holmes (Ohio St), and Chad Jackson (Florida).

Tight End: There are two potential blue chippers this year...senior Leonard Pope [Georgia] and junior Mercedes Lewis [uCLA]. Both will be 1st rounders and probably fairly high at that.

Offensive Line: For all the talk about the offensive line having a disappointing 2005, they should still fly off the draft board in April. D'Brickshaw Ferguson [uVA], Jon Scott [uT], Eric Winston [Miami] are all seniors that will certainly go in the 1st round, and probably all in the top 20. Other seniors like Auburn's Marcus McNeil [disappointing year] and Jeremy Trueblood could be 1st rounder too but have work to do. Juniors Justin Blalock [uT] and Joe Thomas [Wisconson] would also certainly be in the 1st round mix if they come out.

On Defense...

Linebacker: Love him or hate him, but AJ Hawk [Ohio State] remains a top prospect. The different at LB is that Chad Greenway [iowa] has fallen out of favor a bit while Alabama's DeMeco Ryans has vaulted into the top 10-15 picture potentially. All three should be 1st round choices easily. At ILB, Ahmad Brook's [uVA] stock has plummeted and he'll need to come back to college. Iowa's Abdul Hodge and Penn State's Paul Posluszny are the top options inside, with Posluszny being a junior.

Defensive End: Kiwanuka [bC] is a stone-cold lock as a top 10 pick barring injury, he's the best and most productive DE in the country. Guys like Hali at Penn State [school's resurgence] and Dumervil at Louisville [production] have vaulted into the 1st round picture for reasons mentioned.

Defensive Tackle: Among seniors, there are a group of DTs that could be 1st rounders but the ultimate "top guy" will likely be determined after workouts and Pro Days are over. Gabe Watson [Michigan] and Rod Wright [uT] are probably the top guys among senior DTs right now. Jesse Mahelona [Tennessee] was considered a potential top 10 overall guy entering this year, but has been inconsistent [as has his team]. As someone already mentioned, Oregon's Haloti Ngata is the class prospect and will almost certainly be to top DT drafted if he comes out this year.

Defensive Backs: Not the best class for D-backs, which means the really strong guys are going to go EARLY. Jimmy Williams [VaTech] is going to be a top 10 lock barring injury or character issues arising. Kansas' Charles Gordon is another potential shutdown corner and will be in the mix early in the 1st if he comes out.

*** Also, I see a lot of folks including Omar Jacobs in their top 10 overall selections. While he's got that kind of talent, there is ZERO chance of that happening this year. It's all but a foregone conclusion that Jacobs won't come out this year because of his shoulder injury and subpar play. He needs to be dominant in 2006 in order to reestablish his NFL prospects.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Sorry, I meant via trade. Schaub, Volek, and Rivers come to mind. Rattay depending on how the Bucs situation pans out. You think any of those guys would want to come play catch with Boldin and Fitzgerald if the Cards address their O-Line situation?

I thought the Cards should have traded for either of Brees/Rivers THIS year.

 

[wannabee]

Here's my top 8, assuming Quinn comes out and the order is as such. I'm pretty new at this, so be gentle.

1. Texans – Matt Leinart, QB-USC

2. 49ers – Reggie Bush, RB-USC

3. Saints – Brady Quinn, QB-Notre Dame

4. Jets – DeAngelo Williams, RB-Memphis

5. Cardinals – Omar Jacobs, QB Bowling Green

6. Ravens – D. Ferguson, OL-Virginia

7. Titans – AJ Hawk, LB-Ohio State

8. Packers – L. Maroney, RB-Minnesota

If the Cards draft anything other than offensive line in the first round, I will personally, out of principle, demolition that new Jiffy Pop looking stadium they are building. If they feel they need a QB, then get him through freakin' free agency.

Free agent QB? Here's your list:Anthony Wright UFA Ravens

Charlie Batch UFA Steelers

Chris Simms RFA Buccaneers

Chris Weinke UFA Panthers

Craig Nall UFA Packers

Damon Huard UFA Chiefs

Dave Ragone RFA Texans

Doug Flutie UFA Patriots

Drew Brees UFA Chargers

Jamie Martin UFA Rams

Jeff Blake UFA Bears

Jeff Garcia UFA Lions

Jesse Palmer UFA 49ers

Jon Kitna UFA Bengals

Josh McCown UFA Cardinals

Ken Dorsey RFA 49ers

Kliff Kingsbury RFA Jets

Kurt Warner UFA Cardinals

Sage Rosenfels UFA Dolphins

Seneca Wallace RFA Seahawks

Shane Matthews UFA Bills

Shaun Hill UFA Vikings

Tim Hasselbeck UFA Giants

Todd Collins UFA Chiefs

Ty Detmer UFA Falcons

Vinny Testaverde UFA Jet

See anything you like? Other than Kitna (Brees will be resigned by SD), I'd rather have a box of Oreos than any of these guys.

Sorry, I meant via trade. Schaub, Volek, and Rivers come to mind. Rattay depending on how the Bucs situation pans out. You think any of those guys would want to come play catch with Boldin and Fitzgerald if the Cards address their O-Line situation?

Also, Bucs followers will say that Griese will be on the market, too. But, for my FA $$$, Kitna would be hard to pass up.

 

[el-gato-grande]

Here's my top 8, assuming Quinn comes out and the order is as such. I'm pretty new at this, so be gentle.

1. Texans – Matt Leinart, QB-USC

2. 49ers – Reggie Bush, RB-USC

3. Saints – Brady Quinn, QB-Notre Dame

4. Jets – DeAngelo Williams, RB-Memphis

5. Cardinals – Omar Jacobs, QB Bowling Green

6. Ravens – D. Ferguson, OL-Virginia

7. Titans – AJ Hawk, LB-Ohio State

8. Packers – L. Maroney, RB-Minnesota

If the Cards draft anything other than offensive line in the first round, I will personally, out of principle, demolition that new Jiffy Pop looking stadium they are building. If they feel they need a QB, then get him through freakin' free agency.

are you ready to give up on oliver ross, or on leonard davis?

No first round worthy guards if they trade down? Regardless, I think Ross and Davis would play better if they had some good quality depth competing for their jobs. Yeah, depth, now there is a concept! Also keep in mind that Davis played guard during his first couple of years in the league. Some are still questioning whether he has the quicks to be a true left tackle against some of the more athletic defensive lineman, which seem to be all the rage right now.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Also, Bucs followers will say that Griese will be on the market, too. But, for my FA $$$, Kitna would be hard to pass up.

If, like it sounds, the Saints give up on Brooks, he'll be an upgrade for someone else, so that's another name most likely on the market to go with Kitna.

 

[Chaos Commish]

Woodrow. Very solid.

A few things though.

My guess is that neither guy comes out, but that Michigan State's Drew Stanton does and is a 1st rounder.

This surprised me. I've seen some and heard quite a bit about him regressing. Making terrible decisions, terrible throws and costing his team valuable opportunities.

My guess is that White, especially if his injury this week is noteworthy, comes back to be the lead dog at USC next year. He could push for 2,000 yards next year as USC indoctrinates a new QB and relies more heavily on the running game. does and is a 1st rounder.

He's shopping for an agent, and talking to the NFLPA about his options. The way I hear it, and this is from SC's flagship radio station, is that LenDale does not want to risk injury by coming back, IF he is guaranteed high first round money. That seems to be a 50-50 proposition, but they will do a good sales job on him.

Defensive Backs: Not the best class for D-backs, which means the really strong guys are going to go EARLY. Jimmy Williams [VaTech] is going to be a top 10 lock barring injury or character issues arising. Kansas' Charles Gordon is another potential shutdown corner and will be in the mix early in the 1st if he comes out.

Alan Zemaitis is pulling a Cutler and literally playing his way into the first round. The lack of competition at the position, as you point out, may just launch Zemaitis way up the draft board. He is going to give Jimmy Williams a run for his measureables, and he is the better open field tackler.

*** Also, I see a lot of folks including Omar Jacobs in their top 10 overall selections. While he's got that kind of talent, there is ZERO chance of that happening this year. It's all but a foregone conclusion that Jacobs won't come out this year because of his shoulder injury and subpar play. He needs to be dominant in 2006 in order to reestablish his NFL prospects.

I fully agreed to this until watching his last game. The announcers made a very strange comment, and it was spoken as if we all knew what they were talking about. Perhaps they had covered it in the pregame, which I missed, and that's why I felt ignorant to whatever they were saying. They said, "It remains to be seen if Omar Jacobs CAN return to school." Not will, but can. It sounded like an academic issue or something. I meant to look into it, and your comments jogged my memory so I will, unless someone here knows what is up with Omar?

 

[Jason Wood]

Woodrow. Very solid.

A few things though.

My guess is that neither guy comes out, but that Michigan State's Drew Stanton does and is a 1st rounder.

This surprised me. I've seen some and heard quite a bit about him regressing. Making terrible decisions, terrible throws and costing his team valuable opportunities.

My guess is that White, especially if his injury this week is noteworthy, comes back to be the lead dog at USC next year. He could push for 2,000 yards next year as USC indoctrinates a new QB and relies more heavily on the running game. does and is a 1st rounder.

He's shopping for an agent, and talking to the NFLPA about his options. The way I hear it, and this is from SC's flagship radio station, is that LenDale does not want to risk injury by coming back, IF he is guaranteed high first round money. That seems to be a 50-50 proposition, but they will do a good sales job on him.

Defensive Backs: Not the best class for D-backs, which means the really strong guys are going to go EARLY. Jimmy Williams [VaTech] is going to be a top 10 lock barring injury or character issues arising. Kansas' Charles Gordon is another potential shutdown corner and will be in the mix early in the 1st if he comes out. 

Alan Zemaitis is pulling a Cutler and literally playing his way into the first round. The lack of competition at the position, as you point out, may just launch Zemaitis way up the draft board. He is going to give Jimmy Williams a run for his measureables, and he is the better open field tackler.

*** Also, I see a lot of folks including Omar Jacobs in their top 10 overall selections. While he's got that kind of talent, there is ZERO chance of that happening this year. It's all but a foregone conclusion that Jacobs won't come out this year because of his shoulder injury and subpar play. He needs to be dominant in 2006 in order to reestablish his NFL prospects.

I fully agreed to this until watching his last game. The announcers made a very strange comment, and it was spoken as if we all knew what they were talking about. Perhaps they had covered it in the pregame, which I missed, and that's why I felt ignorant to whatever they were saying. They said, "It remains to be seen if Omar Jacobs CAN return to school." Not will, but can. It sounded like an academic issue or something. I meant to look into it, and your comments jogged my memory so I will, unless someone here knows what is up with Omar?

Thanks for the intel on LenDale, I hadn't heard that but it makes things interesting. I believe Stanton's uneven play of late is an issue, but I think he's the kind of kid who would look stellar in workouts which could put him back into the 1st round picture potentially. I should've mentioned Vandy's Jay Cutler, but frankly I'm just not personally a believer. As to Jacobs, very interesting stuff...would like to hear more about this if you find anything online.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

*** Also, I see a lot of folks including Omar Jacobs in their top 10 overall selections. While he's got that kind of talent, there is ZERO chance of that happening this year. It's all but a foregone conclusion that Jacobs won't come out this year because of his shoulder injury and subpar play. He needs to be dominant in 2006 in order to reestablish his NFL prospects.

x 102004

Passing

Att/Comp/Yds

306/462/4002

Tds/Ints

41/4

Rushing

95/300/4

2005

195/321/2591

26/7

With, essentially, three games missed.

How in the world is that considered SUB-par?

 

[Jason Wood]

*** Also, I see a lot of folks including Omar Jacobs in their top 10 overall selections. While he's got that kind of talent, there is ZERO chance of that happening this year. It's all but a foregone conclusion that Jacobs won't come out this year because of his shoulder injury and subpar play. He needs to be dominant in 2006 in order to reestablish his NFL prospects.

x 102004

Passing

Att/Comp/Yds

306/462/4002

Tds/Ints

41/4

Rushing

95/300/4

2005

195/321/2591

26/7

With, essentially, three games missed.

How in the world is that considered SUB-par?

To be clear, I'm a big time fan of Jacobs...but I have heard that his bum shoulder and unever mechanics were enough to drop him out of the running for a top 10 spot, and that would be enough for him to come back and reestablish himself. This year, he has no shot at being the 1st QB taken, and most likely not the 2nd either [if either Quinn or Young come out]. Next year? He could easily be the top QB and thus, a top 5 overall pick.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

To be clear, I'm a big time fan of Jacobs...but I have heard that his bum shoulder and unever mechanics were enough to drop him out of the running for a top 10 spot,

I wonder what the scouts said about Bernie Kosar's mechanics.

 

[Chaos Commish]

As to Jacobs, very interesting stuff...would like to hear more about this if you find anything online.

I did some digging, and maybe I was hearing things. It's been known to happen.

 

[Bloom]

*** Also, I see a lot of folks including Omar Jacobs in their top 10 overall selections. While he's got that kind of talent, there is ZERO chance of that happening this year. It's all but a foregone conclusion that Jacobs won't come out this year because of his shoulder injury and subpar play. He needs to be dominant in 2006 in order to reestablish his NFL prospects.

x 102004

Passing

Att/Comp/Yds

306/462/4002

Tds/Ints

41/4

Rushing

95/300/4

2005

195/321/2591

26/7

With, essentially, three games missed.

How in the world is that considered SUB-par?

To be clear, I'm a big time fan of Jacobs...but I have heard that his bum shoulder and unever mechanics were enough to drop him out of the running for a top 10 spot, and that would be enough for him to come back and reestablish himself. This year, he has no shot at being the 1st QB taken, and most likely not the 2nd either [if either Quinn or Young come out]. Next year? He could easily be the top QB and thus, a top 5 overall pick.

By that logic, Jacobs should aim to come out in the year Young and Quinn don'yt come out. So if they stay this year, he should go, and vice versa.

 

[datonn]

If the Texans end up in th first pick, they'd be in a tough position.Do you pay #1 overall money to an offensive lineman? And if you don't, do you take Leinart and gamble that you could keep him alive behind that line.No way they take a RB.Their best option would be to trade out of the spot which appears to be much easier to do this year than last as there would be many teams needing the type of player that deserves to go #1 - Leinart or Bush.

Actually, I think the Texans will be in the cat-bird's seat if they land the #1 overall. Nothing "tough" about it....as 3-4 teams would be happy to move up to #1 overall to land Bush as long as the Texans were reasonable. Heck, MUCH better to be in that "tough" spot and land an extra pick or two as opposed to landing the #3-#4 overall and simply drafting at your slot (unless somebody falls who shouldn't). I'd also be surprised to see White go ahead of Maroney. I also see the Packers picking a LOT higher than 8th by the time April rolls around.....closer to #3 or #4 overall.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Actually, I think the Texans will be in the cat-bird's seat if they land the #1 overall. Nothing "tough" about it....as 3-4 teams would be happy to move up to #1 overall to land Bush as long as the Texans were reasonable. Heck, MUCH better to be in that "tough" spot and land an extra pick or two as opposed to landing the #3-#4 overall and simply drafting at your slot (unless somebody falls who shouldn't).

I agree with this now, after looking at it more closely. Leinart is certainly more desirable to trade up for than Smith was this year, especially given the QB needs of the teams near the top.If they don't trade that #1 pick for more picks/talent, they're crazy. They have way more problems than what a #1 pick could fill.

 

[datonn]

I agree with this now, after looking at it more closely. Leinart is certainly more desirable to trade up for than Smith was this year, especially given the QB needs of the teams near the top.If they don't trade that #1 pick for more picks/talent, they're crazy. They have way more problems than what a #1 pick could fill.

CORRECT. Dom Davis/Morency and Carr (Bush and Leinart) are not the Texans' most pressing problems by a long shot! They need talent and depth on the O-Line and defensive side of the ball. That, and some new coaches or a new GM wouldn't hurt either....though I don't think they'll get those needs filled on Draft Day.

 

[ExaltedOne]

See anything you like?  Other than Kitna (Brees will be resigned by SD), I'd rather have a box of Oreos than any of these guys.

Its all about trading for Schaub, Garrard, or Rivers.

Warner is looking good on that list too.

 

[cstu]

I agree with this now, after looking at it more closely. Leinart is certainly more desirable to trade up for than Smith was this year, especially given the QB needs of the teams near the top.

If they don't trade that #1 pick for more picks/talent, they're crazy. They have way more problems than what a #1 pick could fill.

CORRECT. Dom Davis/Morency and Carr (Bush and Leinart) are not the Texans' most pressing problems by a long shot! They need talent and depth on the O-Line and defensive side of the ball. That, and some new coaches or a new GM wouldn't hurt either....though I don't think they'll get those needs filled on Draft Day.

Ferguson would do more for the Texans than anything else. They can use the rest of the draft on defense and OL depth as well as improve through free agency. For them to get a franchise LT to finally protect Carr and open up the run would transform them overnight.

 

[jurb26]

Defensive Backs: Not the best class for D-backs, which means the really strong guys are going to go EARLY. Jimmy Williams [VaTech] is going to be a top 10 lock barring injury or character issues arising. Kansas' Charles Gordon is another potential shutdown corner and will be in the mix early in the 1st if he comes out.

Nice list, but I feel as though it's greatly lacking in the DB department. Some guys who should be added to the list:Corners:

Jason Allen, Tenn.

Alan Zemaitis, Penn St.

Ty Hill, Clemson

Will Blackmon, BC

A few Safties:

M.Huff, Texas

D.Bing, USC

 

[Kiddnets]

I fon't watch a ton of USC - what is the read out on Leinart.  I have heard him compared to Pennington (smart player not a great arm) which scares me!  Is this true?  I know he is a winner but does he have the physical tools?  How does he compare to last few years of QBs taken?  Smith, Rivers, Eli, etc

Pennington and Brady are both decent comparisons. Doesnt have a ridiculous arm or athleticism, but is a ideal cerebral QB and leader - A++ on intangibles.

I think the idea of arm strength is overrated, as is 40 times for RBs.Lots of wildly successful QBs have average arm strength. Brady for one, Montana another. Even Drew Brees and his 2005 version Kyle Orton have proven that you don't need a cannon to succeed.

Leinart is very accurate, which makes up for arm strength a bit whereas he typically puts the ball only where the receiver can catch it. Like the question marks that surrounded Carson Palmer, those will be quickly dispelled.

Maybe I am just gun shy from the whole Chad fiasco but I would pass on Leinart - sounds like a Chad clone - how can this guy be the consensus #1 being compared to Chad when everyone killed Chad's arm for years? I'd take Bush.

 

[Bri]

Per the Colin Cowherd radio show

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I agree with this now, after looking at it more closely.  Leinart is certainly more desirable to trade up for than Smith was this year, especially given the QB needs of the teams near the top.

If they don't trade that #1 pick for more picks/talent, they're crazy.  They have way more problems than what a #1 pick could fill.

CORRECT. Dom Davis/Morency and Carr (Bush and Leinart) are not the Texans' most pressing problems by a long shot! They need talent and depth on the O-Line and defensive side of the ball. That, and some new coaches or a new GM wouldn't hurt either....though I don't think they'll get those needs filled on Draft Day.

Ferguson would do more for the Texans than anything else. They can use the rest of the draft on defense and OL depth as well as improve through free agency. For them to get a franchise LT to finally protect Carr and open up the run would transform them overnight.

But do you take a left tackle with the #1 overall pick? I think the more likely scenario is they take Leinart and work a trade or they trade the #1 outright.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Maybe I am just gun shy from the whole Chad fiasco but I would pass on Leinart - sounds like a Chad clone - how can this guy be the consensus #1 being compared to Chad when everyone killed Chad's arm for years? I'd take Bush.

Leinart's has more arm strength than Pennington. And Pennington would not have been a fiasco had he not gotten injured.

 

[BigRed]

If the Texans draft a position player in the 1st round, they should be sent to NFL Europe. They need a defense and line, not another friggin RB.

Exactly.That list is a joke. But then again what do you expect from someone named "Cowherd"

 

[Andy Dufresne]

If the Texans draft a position player in the 1st round, they should be sent to NFL Europe. They need a defense and line, not another friggin RB.

Exactly.That list is a joke. But then again what do you expect from someone named "Cowherd"

This has evolved into more of a "what's YOUR top 8" than just the original Cowherd stuff.

 

[CanadianNFLJunkie]

If the Texans end up in th first pick, they'd be in a tough position.

Do you pay #1 overall money to an offensive lineman? And if you don't, do you take Leinart and gamble that you could keep him alive behind that line.

No way they take a RB.

Their best option would be to trade out of the spot which appears to be much easier to do this year than last as there would be many teams needing the type of player that deserves to go #1 - Leinart or Bush.

I was about to say the same thing here. Houston's new GM will deal down, still get his OL that he wants and get extra picks. They have a lot of holes to fill.As for whomever brought up the OL from Texas, ah I don't think teams will touch any OL after guys like Mike Williams and others have failed terribly in the NFL.

 

[CanadianNFLJunkie]

Here's my top 8, assuming Quinn comes out and the order is as such. I'm pretty new at this, so be gentle.

1. Texans – Matt Leinart, QB-USC

2. 49ers – Reggie Bush, RB-USC

3. Saints – Brady Quinn, QB-Notre Dame

4. Jets – DeAngelo Williams, RB-Memphis

5. Cardinals – Omar Jacobs, QB Bowling Green

6. Ravens – D. Ferguson, OL-Virginia

7. Titans – AJ Hawk, LB-Ohio State

8. Packers – L. Maroney, RB-Minnesota

If the Cards draft anything other than offensive line in the first round, I will personally, out of principle, demolition that new Jiffy Pop looking stadium they are building. If they feel they need a QB, then get him through freakin' free agency.

Free agent QB? Here's your list:Anthony Wright UFA Ravens

Charlie Batch UFA Steelers

Chris Simms RFA Buccaneers

Chris Weinke UFA Panthers

Craig Nall UFA Packers

Damon Huard UFA Chiefs

Dave Ragone RFA Texans

Doug Flutie UFA Patriots

Drew Brees UFA Chargers

Jamie Martin UFA Rams

Jeff Blake UFA Bears

Jeff Garcia UFA Lions

Jesse Palmer UFA 49ers

Jon Kitna UFA Bengals

Josh McCown UFA Cardinals

Ken Dorsey RFA 49ers

Kliff Kingsbury RFA Jets

Kurt Warner UFA Cardinals

Sage Rosenfels UFA Dolphins

Seneca Wallace RFA Seahawks

Shane Matthews UFA Bills

Shaun Hill UFA Vikings

Tim Hasselbeck UFA Giants

Todd Collins UFA Chiefs

Ty Detmer UFA Falcons

Vinny Testaverde UFA Jet

See anything you like? Other than Kitna (Brees will be resigned by SD), I'd rather have a box of Oreos than any of these guys.

Also remember QB's like Philip Rivers and maybe even Billy Volek, will be on the trade market as well, so based on this list, I can see Tennessee and San Diego trading these guys to move up (or down) in the draft.

 

[abe froman]

Hawk = Overrated

You're officially an idiot!

 

[msommer]

Updated guess on the order as of today:HOUNYJGBPSFNOSTENDETOAK

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Updated guess on the order as of today:

HOU

NYJ

GBP

SF

NOS

TEN

DET

OAK

I still say the Texans move that pick. If they can't, the obvioius pick is Ferguson. Not Bush. Not Leinart. Ferguson.If I were the GM and I had to pick at the spots shown here, here's my guess:

HOU - Ferguson (Sounds like they're keeping Carr.)

NYJ - Leinart (Duh. Pennington's done. Deal with it.)

GBP - Bush (Even bigger duh.)

SF - Hawk (Worst D in the league takes best defensive playmaker)

NOS - Greenway (Ditto)

TEN - Jimmy Williams (They play in a division with the Colts. More pass D, please.)

DET - Joe Thomas/Marcus McNeill (QB play dealt with through free agency)

OAK - Mathias Kiwanuka (Run dominated division dictates more defense)

If Brady Quinn and Omar Jacobs declare, this changes.

 

[Kiddnets]

Anyone know if this order is legit? I think Jets lose out and Houston will win one more game - if both are tied who gets the #1 pick?I still think the Jets will get Bush at #1 or trade up from 2 or 3 to get him. All signs are they will give Chad a chance to come back no matter how stupid. There is just too much cash locked up in him. Houston is in a great position if they stay at the #1 spot. They can cash in on Bush and get a solid package to go from #1 to #2. Then trade with a QB crazy team for M. Leinart and get another set of picks. They will still likely be in a position to grab the OL they covet and have a ton of extra picks to boot.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Nobody else likes this stuff?Or am I just so far off that I've killed the thread?

 

[Bloom]

Updated guess on the order as of today:

HOU

NYJ

GBP

SF

NOS

TEN

DET

OAK

I still say the Texans move that pick. If they can't, the obvioius pick is Ferguson. Not Bush. Not Leinart. Ferguson.If I were the GM and I had to pick at the spots shown here, here's my guess:

HOU - Ferguson (Sounds like they're keeping Carr.)

NYJ - Leinart (Duh. Pennington's done. Deal with it.)

GBP - Bush (Even bigger duh.)

SF - Hawk (Worst D in the league takes best defensive playmaker)

NOS - Greenway (Ditto)

TEN - Jimmy Williams (They play in a division with the Colts. More pass D, please.)

DET - Joe Thomas/Marcus McNeill (QB play dealt with through free agency)

OAK - Mathias Kiwanuka (Run dominated division dictates more defense)

If Brady Quinn and Omar Jacobs declare, this changes.

on the order - i think SF and NYJ are very close in SOS for the 2 spot, but GB is definitely the 4 right now. TEN and NO are also very close in SOS right now. in the 4-8 tier, BAL, BUF, ARI, DET, all look very close. OAK is getting killed by being in the tough AFC west.I am starting to wonder if Bush is going to have so much hype around him that the Texans will feel forced to take him, despite the glaring needs on the O-line. I think its becoming clearer that they wont take Leinart, and ideally would want to trade down and take a guy like Ferguson, Winston, or McNeill - but now the Bush hype train is in full force, and you're hearing names like Sayers and Faulk routinely thrown out in comparisons, the Texans could get crucified in the local sports press if they pass on him. I think McNair is severely concerned about lack of interest in the team locally, and Ferguson, while meeting a need, won't put butts in the seats. Bush will. As of right now, i would have Bush going to Houston.

I also think the 2nd most likely team to end up #1, the Niners, would also take Bush for a lot of the same reasons. It doesnt hurt that Bush and Alex Smith were teammates. The 3rd most likely #1 team, the Jets , well thats much tougher. Leinart and Bush both fill huge needs. The Jets are perfectly poised to jump on Leinart if Bush goes #1, either by having the #2, or trading up from a likely #3 or 4 to Texans or Niners, who would want Bush, but not Leinart.

The Pack is sitting pretty to take the best of the rest - either their #1 rated RB (Williams?), Hawk, Mario Williams (although i think they like Kampman). Im not sure how pressing a need OT is right now with Tauscher and Clifton signed long term, so they could be a very good candidate to trade down with a team that is hot for one of the OTs.

TEN and NO are in perfect position to grab either Hawk or one of the top OTs.

Here's a tentative top 10, with an order that might very well be off:

1. Houston Texans - Reggie Bush, RB/KR, USC

2. New York Jets - Matt Leinart, QB, USC

3. Detroit Lions (from SF) - D'brickashaw Ferguson, OT, UVA

4. Green Bay Packers - A.J. Hawk, LB, OSU

5. Tennessee Titans - Marcus McNeill, OT, Auburn

6. New Orleans Saints - Chad Greenway, LB, Iowa

7. Arizona Cardinals - Jimmy Williams, CB, Va Tech

8. Baltimore Ravens - Omar Jacobs, QB, Bowling Green

9. Buffalo Bills - Eric Winston, OT, Miami

10. San Francisco 49ers - Mario Williams, DE, NC St.