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top QB sleeper 2007? (1 Viewer)

longshanks7

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ok, so the Vick thing just put a wrinkle into my draft. i have been following fantasyquants.com for a year now, and was going to take Vick as there top QB selection for this year. I see they just dropped him because of the legal issues.

They still have (as the top value plays):

Cutler

Kitna

and then added

McNabb

what two do you guys like out of this bunch??

obviously im going to be spending an earlier draft pick now.

-shanks

 
kitna and mcnabb would be the two I would want but vick's indictment wouldn't stop me from taking him in the latter rounds

 
ok, so the Vick thing just put a wrinkle into my draft. i have been following fantasyquants.com for a year now, and was going to take Vick as there top QB selection for this year. I see they just dropped him because of the legal issues.They still have (as the top value plays):CutlerKitnaand then addedMcNabbwhat two do you guys like out of this bunch??obviously im going to be spending an earlier draft pick now.-shanks
McNabbKitnaCutlerI like Cutler but Kitna is going to be very good and McNabb is gonna be a monster this year.
 
Kitna will not be a sleeper this year. In fact you are probably going to have to reach to get him.

 
Kitna will not be a sleeper this year. In fact you are probably going to have to reach to get him.
Agreed in a recent magazine I got they have multiple cheat sheets and he was ranked 4th, 6th, 7th, 4th and 5th. Now I think some of those rankings are very high but one thing is for certain as we get closer to draft day he will rise up the ranks more than any other QB.
 
ok, so the Vick thing just put a wrinkle into my draft. i have been following fantasyquants.com for a year now, and was going to take Vick as there top QB selection for this year. I see they just dropped him because of the legal issues.They still have (as the top value plays):CutlerKitnaand then addedMcNabbwhat two do you guys like out of this bunch??obviously im going to be spending an earlier draft pick now.-shanks
McNabbKitnaCutlerI like Cutler but Kitna is going to be very good and McNabb is gonna be a monster this year.
:kicksrock:
 
Ted Lange as your Bartender said:
I think Delhomme could bounce back this year as a top 12 QB, and he's going around QB20 at this point. From everything I hear so far, Carr isn't a threat to steal the job unless Delhomme totally stinks. Good value there
Basically, he does great or he loses his job. This is a make or break year for him and last year he was horrid. I'm not a Delhomme fan and I highly doubt he'll be on one of my teams but I'm interested to see how that shakes out this year.
 
Kitna was a sleeper last year, guys.

I'd say Losman at QB20 and Campbell at QB23 have the best chance to greatly outperform their ADPs.

 
If we're talking about how far above his ADP the guy will actually play, the top sleeper this year will be Garcia. He's not even being drafted in some leagues, but will be at least as good a the lower end starting QBs or mid- to high-end backup QBs this year. I'd peg him in the QB12 - QB15 range, meaning he could start most weeks on a team that waits for its QB while building up depth at other positions.

 
Jason Campbell has a lot of weapons to utilize in the Redskins offense. He has Santana Moss, Chris Cooley, Antwaan Randle-El, and two running backs in Clinton Portis and Ladell Betts. Last year it seemed he was a touchdown machine. If he gets better I really like his chances in 2007 to become a top-flight quarterback.

Trent Green also has some sneaky good offensive players in Miami with Marty Booker and Chris Chambers along with David Martin. And of course there's Ronnie Brown as well.

JP Losman's pretty good too. Plus he has enough mobility where he can get you fantasy points running the ball as well as passing. He doesn't have as many weapons as the other quarterbacks though so I like him a little less.

Those are three under the radar QBs I like as sleepers in 2007.

 
One guy that screams value to me is Leftwich. On a ppg basis last year he was 11th and is currently ranked by FBG @ 23rd. In a mag. I have he was ranked 28th, 27th, 30th, 28th and 28th. The prior year he was injured and was around 12th or 13th on a ppg basis as well. Injury is obviously an issue but to get a top 12 performer when healthy for a guy that may not be drafted in some leagues is decent value. When he gets hurt for the season you drop him and p/u Culpepper/Gerrard.

 
Jason Campbell has a lot of weapons to utilize in the Redskins offense. He has Santana Moss, Chris Cooley, Antwaan Randle-El, and two running backs in Clinton Portis and Ladell Betts. Last year it seemed he was a touchdown machine. If he gets better I really like his chances in 2007 to become a top-flight quarterback.Trent Green also has some sneaky good offensive players in Miami with Marty Booker and Chris Chambers along with David Martin. And of course there's Ronnie Brown as well.JP Losman's pretty good too. Plus he has enough mobility where he can get you fantasy points running the ball as well as passing. He doesn't have as many weapons as the other quarterbacks though so I like him a little less.Those are three under the radar QBs I like as sleepers in 2007.
I like them too as backups that may become #1's.
 
Kitna will not be a sleeper this year. In fact you are probably going to have to reach to get him.
Agreed in a recent magazine I got they have multiple cheat sheets and he was ranked 4th, 6th, 7th, 4th and 5th. Now I think some of those rankings are very high but one thing is for certain as we get closer to draft day he will rise up the ranks more than any other QB.
it just baffles me how in an expoert mock, Kitna goes as QB13 . . . you're right though, as we get closer to the season, guys like Kitna will rise up the board, where they shouldve been in the first place . . .'
 
Kitna will not be a sleeper this year. In fact you are probably going to have to reach to get him.
Agreed in a recent magazine I got they have multiple cheat sheets and he was ranked 4th, 6th, 7th, 4th and 5th. Now I think some of those rankings are very high but one thing is for certain as we get closer to draft day he will rise up the ranks more than any other QB.
it just baffles me how in an expoert mock, Kitna goes as QB13 . . . you're right though, as we get closer to the season, guys like Kitna will rise up the board, where they shouldve been in the first place . . .'
He finished 6th last year and they added a potentially dynamic wr to pair up with Williams. Unless you are killed for sacks/picks he's gonna have a great year. It's a perfect formula because they have an awful defense, have tough RB matchups and have mad Mike Martz with two great wr weapons to play with. I'm targetting him in every draft.
 
Kitna will not be a sleeper this year. In fact you are probably going to have to reach to get him.
Agreed in a recent magazine I got they have multiple cheat sheets and he was ranked 4th, 6th, 7th, 4th and 5th. Now I think some of those rankings are very high but one thing is for certain as we get closer to draft day he will rise up the ranks more than any other QB.
which is why the FBG ADP of Kitna at QB#16 for their value article is so absurb.
 
Kitna will not be a sleeper this year. In fact you are probably going to have to reach to get him.
Agreed in a recent magazine I got they have multiple cheat sheets and he was ranked 4th, 6th, 7th, 4th and 5th. Now I think some of those rankings are very high but one thing is for certain as we get closer to draft day he will rise up the ranks more than any other QB.
which is why the FBG ADP of Kitna at QB#16 for their value article is so absurb.
I got him at 7.1 in a mock as the 9th qb overall this morning. Might've been a little high but I knew he wasn't gonna be there 22 picks later.
 
Delhomme. Their toughest 3 game stretch is the playoff weeks when they face @JAX, SEA, DAL weeks 14-16 so that hurts some. But he will be quite valuable during the regular season of FF due to the cake schedule. Check it out. Great value for a #2QB IMO.

 
QB Sleeper?

Ahh.. Favre seems a good canidate. After a few very difficult seasons, he remains on a team that must throw often and he's experianced.

 
I grabbed Schaub and Losman for dirt cheap in a 2 year keeper league - have them as backups this year (to Hass) and hoping one of them breaks out and can be a cheap #1 in 2008.

 
Delhomme. Their toughest 3 game stretch is the playoff weeks when they face @JAX, SEA, DAL weeks 14-16 so that hurts some. But he will be quite valuable during the regular season of FF due to the cake schedule. Check it out. Great value for a #2QB IMO.
:goodposting: - he has a high reward pay off - I would grab some Carr insurance just in case though!
 
QB Sleeper? Ahh.. Favre seems a good canidate. After a few very difficult seasons, he remains on a team that must throw often and he's experianced.
:goodposting: , TCI am writing a faceoff for Favre. Take this into consideration:2006 finish: QB82007 ADP: QB16Many other factors I will save for the faceoff. But, I am very high on Favre this year. BTW, he has not finished lower than QB13 since 1992.
 
Delhomme. Their toughest 3 game stretch is the playoff weeks when they face @JAX, SEA, DAL weeks 14-16 so that hurts some. But he will be quite valuable during the regular season of FF due to the cake schedule. Check it out. Great value for a #2QB IMO.
:goodposting: - he has a high reward pay off - I would grab some Carr insurance just in case though!
LOADED with weapons this season. And I expect that soft schedule to make him look very good.Pennington as well, like his support and the schedule is better than it looks at first glance.
 
Leftwich is a good value, so is Jason Campbell.

Kitna I just don't believe in. Who says they don't go with Drew Stanton if the Lions are 4-8 after 12 weeks? Stay away from him, he's just going too high in these drafts. Favre is good value too.

 
Beck - Green gets his gourd rang in week 2 and the rookie takes the helm like some obscure guy did way back when Bledsoe got knocked out ( what was his name ? Brady or something ??? )

 
In my league last year Rivers finished with 10 points less than Brady. I'm not sure he'll repeat that because Brady may have a monster year, but it's an interesting stat to me none-the-less.

 
Losman is the guy!! I do not think that he will carry your team but for a guy that you can steal in the late rounds he will bring value.

 
QB Sleeper? Ahh.. Favre seems a good canidate. After a few very difficult seasons, he remains on a team that must throw often and he's experianced.
:goodposting: , TCI am writing a faceoff for Favre. Take this into consideration:2006 finish: QB82007 ADP: QB16Many other factors I will save for the faceoff. But, I am very high on Favre this year. BTW, he has not finished lower than QB13 since 1992.
It's the same every year with him. He's money. Yeah, he throws some picks and forces the ball too much but he can still play as good as/better than half the qb's starting in the league.
 
JohnnyU said:
Easy one, Jeff Garcia. That offense is taylor made for him.
I like Garcia too, but I'm really worried about the WR situation there. I'm not convinced that at 36 Galloway can be the force he was even last year. Clayton just sucks. Boston/Hilliard - c'mon. Last year he had solid guys like Westbrook/R Brown/LJ Smith to throw to, not to mention Stallworth when he wasn't hurt. The situation in Tampa looks ugly if you ask me. The only good thing here is that Garcia can be had for nothing on draft day as your QB2 or 3.
 
Grossman tossed 23 TD's last season. He seems to love the TE, and Chicago added the best one available. He seems to be QB20 or so, and assuming he continues to improve, he has the potential to be a steal.

 
ok, so the Vick thing just put a wrinkle into my draft. i have been following fantasyquants.com for a year now, and was going to take Vick as there top QB selection for this year. I see they just dropped him because of the legal issues.They still have (as the top value plays):CutlerKitnaand then addedMcNabbwhat two do you guys like out of this bunch??obviously im going to be spending an earlier draft pick now.-shanks
McNabbKitnaCutlerI like Cutler but Kitna is going to be very good and McNabb is gonna be a monster this year.
McNabb will be a monster, until he gets hurt. McNabb can get you into the playoffs, but he won't be around to help once you are there. Worst thing is that McNabb is going pretty high from what I have seen. I'd go with Kitna.
 
Barring injury, I think Romo is a lock for top 10. Too much talent around him not to end up there..
I think Romo's ADP is actually way too high. He just doesn't have the experience yet, and has not shown enough consistency to justify his position (FBG Aggregate ADP = pick 74, rd 7.02, QB10). And I've seen him ranked as high as QB 7 or 8 on some lists.Romo's Average FF Points per game last year was 14.5 FFPt/G

(based on 1 pt per 20yds passing, and 4 pt per passing TD, plus standard rushing pts)

Here is the list of all those that are typically ranked below Romo this year, that actually finished with a higher Pt/G average last year:

Vick - 20.0

Rivers - 16.4

Cutler - 17.6

Leinart - 15.6

Favre - 17.2

E. Manning - 16.3

Roethlisberger - 18.0

A. Smith - 14.8

Leftwich - 17.0

Losman - 15.5

Grossman - 15.7

Delhomme - 16.1

Pennington - 15.4

McNair - 14.7

Harrington - 14.7

Feeley - 14.7

Culpepper - 15.6

Quit a list, isn't it? I just don't see why Romo gets so much love.

 
Kitna I just don't believe in. Who says they don't go with Drew Stanton if the Lions are 4-8 after 12 weeks? Stay away from him, he's just going too high in these drafts. Favre is good value too.
I'm not buying this. Kitna was struggling mightily towards the end of last season and they could have brought in a veteran in McCown to right the ship and to see if McCown might me a longer term answer. They refused to and were adament that Kitna was their guy. He played every snap I believe because they love his leadership and toughness. A lot of his turnovers can be attributed to some god awful OL play.If they didn't do it then, there's no wayyyyyy they bring in a rookie to take the reigns now. Kitna is a lock for this year.

 
Kitna I just don't believe in. Who says they don't go with Drew Stanton if the Lions are 4-8 after 12 weeks? Stay away from him, he's just going too high in these drafts. Favre is good value too.
I'm not buying this. Kitna was struggling mightily towards the end of last season and they could have brought in a veteran in McCown to right the ship and to see if McCown might me a longer term answer. They refused to and were adament that Kitna was their guy. He played every snap I believe because they love his leadership and toughness. A lot of his turnovers can be attributed to some god awful OL play.If they didn't do it then, there's no wayyyyyy they bring in a rookie to take the reigns now. Kitna is a lock for this year.
excellent point . . .
 
Like Hasslebeck this yr... he was top 5 QB 2 yrs ago and was having a great in 07 too.

If hes floating around midd 6th.. I'm on it

 
Barring injury, I think Romo is a lock for top 10. Too much talent around him not to end up there..
I think Romo's ADP is actually way too high. He just doesn't have the experience yet, and has not shown enough consistency to justify his position (FBG Aggregate ADP = pick 74, rd 7.02, QB10). And I've seen him ranked as high as QB 7 or 8 on some lists.Romo's Average FF Points per game last year was 14.5 FFPt/G

(based on 1 pt per 20yds passing, and 4 pt per passing TD, plus standard rushing pts)

Here is the list of all those that are typically ranked below Romo this year, that actually finished with a higher Pt/G average last year:

Vick - 20.0

Rivers - 16.4

Cutler - 17.6

Leinart - 15.6

Favre - 17.2

E. Manning - 16.3

Roethlisberger - 18.0

A. Smith - 14.8

Leftwich - 17.0

Losman - 15.5

Grossman - 15.7

Delhomme - 16.1

Pennington - 15.4

McNair - 14.7

Harrington - 14.7

Feeley - 14.7

Culpepper - 15.6

Quit a list, isn't it? I just don't see why Romo gets so much love.
Romo's FP/G is misleading because he was the holder in games where he did not play QB. Romo ranks 5th here, in a more accurate description of his FP/G.http://footballguys.com/articles/07stuart_rearviewqb.php

 
Chase Stuart said:
hephner said:
Barring injury, I think Romo is a lock for top 10. Too much talent around him not to end up there..
I think Romo's ADP is actually way too high. He just doesn't have the experience yet, and has not shown enough consistency to justify his position (FBG Aggregate ADP = pick 74, rd 7.02, QB10). And I've seen him ranked as high as QB 7 or 8 on some lists.Romo's Average FF Points per game last year was 14.5 FFPt/G

(based on 1 pt per 20yds passing, and 4 pt per passing TD, plus standard rushing pts)

Here is the list of all those that are typically ranked below Romo this year, that actually finished with a higher Pt/G average last year:

Vick - 20.0

Rivers - 16.4

Cutler - 17.6

Leinart - 15.6

Favre - 17.2

E. Manning - 16.3

Roethlisberger - 18.0

A. Smith - 14.8

Leftwich - 17.0

Losman - 15.5

Grossman - 15.7

Delhomme - 16.1

Pennington - 15.4

McNair - 14.7

Harrington - 14.7

Feeley - 14.7

Culpepper - 15.6

Quit a list, isn't it? I just don't see why Romo gets so much love.
Romo's FP/G is misleading because he was the holder in games where he did not play QB. Romo ranks 5th here, in a more accurate description of his FP/G.http://footballguys.com/articles/07stuart_rearviewqb.php
Wow. Did not realize that, and I remember reading that article when it came out too, but obviously, that part didn't stick :confused: .Excellent point.

 

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