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culdeus
Footballguy
Here's a tip. They don't.
Whatever helps you sleep better. If your content is driven thru YouTube you are nearly certainly no better than a torrent and your upstream revenue is in the millionth of a penny. But it's legal so it's all good right?
1- Quit comparing copyright infringement with stealing. They're not the same thing.
2- Of course your could.
Frostillicus
Footballguy
What a bunch of thieves. Be a grownup and pay for it.
cstu
Footballguy
Yeah, but so do lawyers.Engineers work desk jobs.1. We are talking artists that are essentially in the top 40 of their craft. Yeah, that seems like a rip off if that is the case.culdeus said:Those poor people being forced to make music instead of working like the rest of us. Oh the horror.
2. People who are talented enough should be encouraged to create art and be able to make a living out of it. If there is so little financial incentive to make music, we all suffer, IMO. I would rather somebody pursue the arts than a 9-5 desk job.
Then how do they stay up and running? Or are these just a bunch of tech nerds who provide a platform to stream TV/Movies out of the goodness of their heart?
NutterButter
Footballguy
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
It is curious, especially considering how wealthy the average FBG is. A spotify subscription too much? Getting stuff through Itunes? V.O.D.? Netflix? Redbox or store rental?
I understand the urge more with music and did my share of downloading. For some reason, I don't get the movie thing as much - combo of entitlement, impatience, and laziness?
NutterButter
Footballguy
its just so damn easy.
Johnnymac
Footballguy
This is the correct answer. I do it because it is too easy. Why pay for it? I guess it's probably wrong but it seems harmless.
Northern Voice
Footballguy
I have spotify, Netflix, craveTV, and spend hundreds a month on live music, concerts, albums, t-shirts etc... But I still download music because I like to have it on my iPod, and I don't want/need to pay full price if it may be ####. If its good, I'll support the band by the means mentioned above. I don't feel guilty about it.
I suppose you could argue I should preview with Spotify, so the band gets .0002 cents per play, when cell data plans are truly unlimited and high speec, maybe I will, till then, I love my iPod classic.
culdeus
Footballguy
I think these streaming deals will turn out to be an even worse deal for artists than digital downloads for free. What they have effectively done is take paying consumers that are willing to pay for a product and turn them into one that pays a 1/100th of what they used to, even on a paid stream service.
If torrent is walking into walmart and stealing 10 CDs then pandora/spotifiy/youtube is walking into walmart throwing a nickel on the counter and walking out. And honestly, it's really more like a penny.
The itunes model basically mirrored the best of times for artists. Their pass thru on a 99c sale was by all accounts 9c. But the people that used to buy mp3s have shifted to streaming because, it gets them what they want and it seems legal.
If torrent is walking into walmart and stealing 10 CDs then pandora/spotifiy/youtube is walking into walmart throwing a nickel on the counter and walking out. And honestly, it's really more like a penny.
The itunes model basically mirrored the best of times for artists. Their pass thru on a 99c sale was by all accounts 9c. But the people that used to buy mp3s have shifted to streaming because, it gets them what they want and it seems legal.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
I have Netflix and I rent Blu-Rays from the local store a couple times a month. I'll also download a couple movies a month that I wouldn't spend a dime on otherwise.KarmaPolice said:
Maelstrom
Footballguy
I switched to qBitTorrent when this news originally broke, been fairly happy with it. Does everything I need a torrent client to do the time or two I need to use it.I'm on a Mac where I use uTorrent, so that would be great if this was Windows isolated (sorry Windows guys). I haven't upgraded my version of uTorrent in awhile, and I use it probably weekly or so, so you might be right. Hope so!In reading a The Verge article, it mentions that the malware is a 'windows' program. Are those of us on Mac safe? Also if we are not into BitCoin, is this a non-issue?OK, sofor recommending uTorrent, gents. Apparently, the latest update in the EULA "authorizes" your PC to mine for Bitcoin: http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/latest-version-of-utorrent-installs-cryptocoin-mining-malware.454414698/
Sorry, couldn't find a non-forum webpage to link on this. But, beware.
ETA: A reddit thread with lots of good info on this: http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/2y4lar/popular_torrenting_software_%C2%B5torrent_has_included/
TIA,
As for the Pro version, I'm not sure on that either. Might check into it over the weekend.
modogg
Footballguy
I haven't read whole thread, and i assume this has already been mentioned to sorry if it has been. But one thing i have ran into was buying a tape, then buying the CD, and now needing it on an MP3 to listen to it. So seeing how i already bought it twice (a lot of of times 3 times or more because of tapes/CDs getting stolen, or breaking) I do not mind downloading it since i literally already bought it 3 or 4 times.
Mario Kart
Footballguy
I agree.
It's like they took a page out of the George Lucas pinch-every-dime-from-the-fans book.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Has anyone ever read the iTunes service agreement? Seems I violate the T&C's by purchasing from iTunes and uploading the m4a files to my Google Play account. It appears I'm in violation because I'm playing them on various computers at work and not just on my "approved iTunes devices".
How guilty should I feel?
How guilty should I feel?
I dunno, does it "seem legit"? You could probably find those same songs on youtube for free seems how you are breaking the law anyway.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Am I in violation or is google? Google specifically states they take the m4a and converts it to mp3 Even though there are other file formats they won't accept.
I was just giving you a hard time. I don't think there is anything wrong with either.....good points tho.
Mr. Ected
Footballguy
Does something like buying a movie on your cable network count? What happens if you move to a town where that network isn't available?
"Viewing purchased titles on your TV requires a subscription to XFINITY TV service with access to XFINITY On Demand. If you disconnect all of your XFINITY services, you can continue to watch purchased titles on the XFINITY TV Go website or on your mobile devices with the XFINITY On Demand Purchases app."
Amused to Death
Footballguy
There's a great (imo) documentary on Netflix called "Terms and Conditions May Apply". They talk about end user agreements and how ridiculous they are and to what lengths companies go through to hide their intentions. From the font they use to the text size they use and the overall length of the agreement. They highlighted a case in the U.K. where a game store edited their rental agreement to include "you agree to surrender your soul to us".
The entertainment industry has chosen to make their product highly portable and shareable. At one time, iTunes provided m4p files that were share-protected. They removed the protection because its in their best interest for the product to be shared. They can always put the protection back in file. I know this because I have old files that I can not upload to Google.
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
So if someone swipes the golf clubs from my trunk, I'm justified walking into the pro shop and helping myself to an identical set? I did buy them once after all.
culdeus
Footballguy
If someone doesn't steal them and you are done with them can you sell them on craigslist?
GoFishTN
Footballguy
cstu
Footballguy
GoFishTN
Footballguy
The most pirated show of all time is about to start. HBO's attempt to put this out to the whole world at the same time, forgoing ratings and making it available in streaming options such as HBO Go, itunes and Sling TV is a step in the right direction. Initially I scoffed at the price of $15 per month for the streaming option and planned on getting it "elsewhere". But the more I think about it the more I want to support availability, streaming and cord cutting. I think I will pay $30+ for GoT on Sling TV.
I think it's a good sign for HBO who obviously finds it difficult to break the paradigm of billions of dollars they are making off of cable subscriptions. Jeff Bewkes CEO of HBO once said, "Being the most pirated tv show is better than an Emmy."
I think it's a good sign for HBO who obviously finds it difficult to break the paradigm of billions of dollars they are making off of cable subscriptions. Jeff Bewkes CEO of HBO once said, "Being the most pirated tv show is better than an Emmy."
Todd Andrews
Footballguy
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
Some BS company called Dallas Buyers Club LLC won a court decisions yesterday that makes oneof the largets internet service providers in Australia to hand over names and addresses of about 4,700 Australians who downloaded that movie. Presumably, they will be sending out some form of "pay us or we'll sue you letters" soon.
This is new territory for Australia. I'm lucky in that I didn't download that movie, but it may be the first of many.
In September of this year some new legislation goes into affect which is essentially three strike policy - you get three warning letters before you can get sued or whatever. But that is starting in September, doesn't mean people are off the hook for previous pirating.
This is new territory for Australia. I'm lucky in that I didn't download that movie, but it may be the first of many.
In September of this year some new legislation goes into affect which is essentially three strike policy - you get three warning letters before you can get sued or whatever. But that is starting in September, doesn't mean people are off the hook for previous pirating.
It's not theft.
Not fishing, promoting to support these big companies when they finally listen to their consumers and offer affordable solutions.
Fun fact;Australia is the largest country of pirated downloads of Game of Thrones. Untilrrecently the only way to watch it was to pay for the minimum 6 months of basic cable (most Australia residents aren't cable subscribers) plus HBO. FFor a total cost of $50 per episode
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
The "basic cable" I think you're referring to is a service called Foxtel, which comes with a box and you can add different packages, including HBO. I used to have it, but got rid of it due to the cost. The good news on that front is that streaming options are finally happening here (Netflix literally just came out here a few days ago) which is pushing Foxtel prices down considerably. Still no way to access new Game of Thrones episodes to my knowledge though, other than buying HBO or subscribing to HBO Go or whatever it's called.
But yeah, torrents are big here, mostly because to date there's been no serious legislative restriction on it, and because it's harder to access content here sometimes.
GTBilly
Footballguy
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About the virus concerns...
I've been hypothetically downloading just the video file to my android device, then setting it up as a media server on my home network. Playing either on my Dish Network receiver or my bluray player, picking up the file from the device via the network.
Theoretically, would this approach product one from viruses?
I've been hypothetically downloading just the video file to my android device, then setting it up as a media server on my home network. Playing either on my Dish Network receiver or my bluray player, picking up the file from the device via the network.
Theoretically, would this approach product one from viruses?
Frostillicus
Footballguy
Maybe just pay for movies like a grown up.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
culdeus
Footballguy
pretty much on A/V containers there aren't any ways to get viruses. If you start doing stuff like downloading a video and the player says something like "Don't have the codec" then you go to the d/l and it says "go here for the codec" that's how people get viruses. The vast, vast, vast majority of stuff out there is totally clean and the first hint of something fishy gets it wiped from the net.
Polish Hammer
made of glass
Where are folks getting their torrents these days? I can't find KAT anymore since Google gave them the death sentence. TPB still solid? Did Demonoid rebuild?
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