Trading Tom Brady (1 Viewer)

[Macdaddy_2004]

Patriots offence doesn't look the same - not the killer instinct the last time Josh McD was around. They seem content on taking what the defences give them. Not great for fantasy but they will win a lot of games.

I know a lot of the top tier QB's are struggling but I am thinking of offering up Mr Tom to the RG3 owner and see what happens.

Anyone else?

 

[pittstownkiller]

I see Brady for RGIII as at best a lateral move and at worst a big mistake. I think there are some issues to work out in NE, as they transition to a more balanced running team, but Brady has tread on the tires.

 

[Macdaddy_2004]

RG3 has outscored him every week...........he's basically Cam Newton this year and Uncle Tom is settling..........

 

[fred_1_15301]

RG3 has outscored him every week...........he's basically Cam Newton this year and Uncle Tom is settling..........

I would definitely rather have RG3. The Redskins D is awful and RG3 loves himself those rushing TDs

 

[TheFootballJesus]

I would rather have RG3, but I think the best is yet to come from the Patriots offense.

He's currently on pace for over 4700 yards. The touchdowns will come.

 

[NCPanthersFan]

oooh I was anxious for this type of thread to pop up. Yudkin and every other NE homer were unreasonable in their expectations. You cannot build an OL in the 1st week of tthe season.

 

[doowain]

You lost me at "defences".

 

[Shutout]

WHOA! WHOA! WHOA!

Take a deep breath here. Brady is going to be just fine. I thik you might be suffering from 50% letdown from what has been an exceptional couple of years and 50% of the hype that the Patriots were going to blow the doors off every record in the NFL this year.

Ok, so you've had three weeks and you've got a little reality check. But this worm is getting ready to turn and here's why:

-The Pats want to be more balanced and the Pats want to have improved defense. Both those things are true. BUT, at the end of the day, the Pats want (and need) to keep pace and win games. The defense showed the last two weeks that they are still suceptible to give and break when its critical and they showed last night in that second half that the best Pats offense is still by letting them do what they do best and that's throw the ball.

-They also had a curve ball thrown in last week early and lost their TE and had to go from a 2-TE base to 3-WR base on the fly. They ran with that last night and we finally saw an inkling of Lloyd's promise in this offense. They will also get Hernandez back at some point.

In general, I think the REALITY of the Pats right now is they are 1-2 and know they can't lose any more ground. The Texans are undefeated in a cupcake division and they have a H2H loss to the Ravens. Both of these teams are very likely to be figuring into the race for HFA in the playoffs. Brady hasn't shown that he just doesn't have it; they just aren't trying to do it that way. That's a big difference and I trust in Belichick enough to think that he knows that too.

I expect, as early as THIS WEEK, you will see the Patriots agrresively attacking in the air again. I expect nothing less than 350/3Tds this weekend. IF Brady doesn't go for AT LEAST that, come back in this thread and we can talk some more but I have a really strong hunch you're going to see what you expected all along this weekend coming.

 

[10tihwj]

I'm debating this myself. I already have Big Ben, who is outscoring Brady by 96-70 after 3 weeks in the league I'm in. I am just loathe to find myself at the other end of that rollercoaster by the end of the season when Brady inevitably is putting up top 3 numbers and Roethlisberger has settled down around the 8-12 range.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Brady for RGIII should not be accept by the RGIII owner, Tom's days are numbered.

 

[elbowrm]

Week 12: @ NYJ

13: @ MIA

14: v HOU

15: v SF

16: @ JAX

 

[everydayj]

Brady for RGIII should not be accept by the RGIII owner, Tom's days are numbered.

Can you unpack this for me? Numbered how? Yes, he's on the downside of his career, but in a redraft, does that truly matter all that much? He's still going to end up being a top 5 QB by year-end.

 

[Shutout]

Week 12: @ NYJ13: @ MIA14: v HOU15: v SF16: @ JAX

Wow, if you have him and can hang on, i LIKE those FF playoff matchups. Shoout out in Wk14, forced to throw all day in what will be a meaningful game for both teams in Wk15, and a cupcake in wk16.

 

[JHuber77]

Put down the pipe people. They just faced BAL and ARI. No slouches on defense. Do you think with that debacle from last night is going to sit well with Belichick? They may come out next week and totally abuse the Bills.

 

[Ray_T]

Put down the pipe people. They just faced BAL and ARI. No slouches on defense. Do you think with that debacle from last night is going to sit well with Belichick? They may come out next week and totally abuse the Bills.

I agree.Brady will put up his numbers.the only case I'd trade him is if it is a keeper/dynasty league and the rest of your team sucked. Then I'd trade Brady to acquire some good, young players that will make your team competitive again in a season or two.otherwise, hang onto him.

 

[shadyridr]

Week 12: @ NYJ13: @ MIA14: v HOU15: v SF16: @ JAX

Wow, if you have him and can hang on, i LIKE those FF playoff matchups. Shoout out in Wk14, forced to throw all day in what will be a meaningful game for both teams in Wk15, and a cupcake in wk16.

you LIKE Hou & SF back to back?

 

[hotboyz]

Have you guys watched RGlll play? Kyle shannahan is getting him killed!!! He is not Cam Newton Cam 6'5 260 RGlll 200 soaking wet! He will not make it thru the whole season! Do not trade Brady for him would much rather have Luck

 

[Shutout]

Week 12: @ NYJ13: @ MIA14: v HOU15: v SF16: @ JAX

Wow, if you have him and can hang on, i LIKE those FF playoff matchups. Shoout out in Wk14, forced to throw all day in what will be a meaningful game for both teams in Wk15, and a cupcake in wk16.

you LIKE Hou & SF back to back?

Yes, because Tom Brady and the patriots aren't average talents that get overwhelmed by teams. Brady is an elite Qb and, elite QBs get their points in these types of games and Houston scores points, so the Patriots will be right there, chucking it too. They won't run on the Niners so they will pass. I expect very good fantasy games those two weeks. We can't just look at the names Houston and Niners and expect the Patriots to roll over and die and end up waving a white flag. these are the types of games great players rise up for.

 

[Mile High]

WHOA! WHOA! WHOA!

Take a deep breath here. Brady is going to be just fine. I thik you might be suffering from 50% letdown from what has been an exceptional couple of years and 50% of the hype that the Patriots were going to blow the doors off every record in the NFL this year.

Ok, so you've had three weeks and you've got a little reality check. But this worm is getting ready to turn and here's why:

-The Pats want to be more balanced and the Pats want to have improved defense. Both those things are true. BUT, at the end of the day, the Pats want (and need) to keep pace and win games. The defense showed the last two weeks that they are still suceptible to give and break when its critical and they showed last night in that second half that the best Pats offense is still by letting them do what they do best and that's throw the ball.

-They also had a curve ball thrown in last week early and lost their TE and had to go from a 2-TE base to 3-WR base on the fly. They ran with that last night and we finally saw an inkling of Lloyd's promise in this offense. They will also get Hernandez back at some point.

In general, I think the REALITY of the Pats right now is they are 1-2 and know they can't lose any more ground. The Texans are undefeated in a cupcake division and they have a H2H loss to the Ravens. Both of these teams are very likely to be figuring into the race for HFA in the playoffs. Brady hasn't shown that he just doesn't have it; they just aren't trying to do it that way. That's a big difference and I trust in Belichick enough to think that he knows that too.

I expect, as early as THIS WEEK, you will see the Patriots agrresively attacking in the air again. I expect nothing less than 350/3Tds this weekend. IF Brady doesn't go for AT LEAST that, come back in this thread and we can talk some more but I have a really strong hunch you're going to see what you expected all along this weekend coming.

My thoughts exactly. They are 1-2 and what they are doing isn't working, time to go back to what they do best.

 

[David Yudkin]

oooh I was anxious for this type of thread to pop up. Yudkin and every other NE homer were unreasonable in their expectations. You cannot build an OL in the 1st week of tthe season.

The only thing Brady hasn't done is throw for a lot of TDs yet. People are ready to ditch him after games where he threw for 316 and 335 yards? There have been several plays so far that resulted in dropped TDs, FG attempts, or passing plays that the receiver was tackled a yard or two short of the end zone.Brady is on pace for 630 attempts and 4730 yards. The Pats rushing totals have dipped each game and their passing numbers (except for TDs) have increased each week. The last time Brady had back to back games with only 1 TD pass he went on a binge (2010), where he had 24 TD passes over his next 9 games.If people feel more comfortable that the Ponders, Lucks, Daltons, and Lockers of the world will do better than Brady, by all means start them. But there is a LONG way to go before the season is over.

 

[bagger]

i own rg3 and would not trade him for brady. and would laugh as i turned down the trade.

 

[Mile High]

i own rg3 and would not trade him for brady. and would laugh as i turned down the trade.

I wouldn't trade RG3 for any QB right now. No need to trade him for Brady since I have both.

 

[bagger]

i own rg3 and would not trade him for brady. and would laugh as i turned down the trade.

I wouldn't trade RG3 for any QB right now. No need to trade him for Brady since I have both.

then you should be trading brady for a viable starter...pointless to have him on your bench for a bye week and potential injuries.

 

[Mile High]

i own rg3 and would not trade him for brady. and would laugh as i turned down the trade.

I wouldn't trade RG3 for any QB right now. No need to trade him for Brady since I have both.

then you should be trading brady for a viable starter...pointless to have him on your bench for a bye week and potential injuries.

I might but I did watch the skins game yesterday. RG3 is going to get carried off the field if they don't do more to protect him.

 

[codyj123_321]

Fantasy football is all about consistency to win the championship anyways, Brady is about as consistent as they come. Nuff said.

He will put up great numbers and finish top 5. If you trade him for RG3 and he hits a downslope then you'll be kicking yourself. I mean the season just started. The Skins have faced some pretty subpar at best D's. Check there schedules coming up and see who has the more favorable one.

Heres a hint: It's Brady.

 

[DexterDew]

picked Brady up in a couple of dynasty leagues this offseason expecting Top 3 numbers. The loss of AHern (and OL shakeup) has me concerned enough to have benched him this past weekend for better options that paid off. I will not go so far as to say he is a matchup play since I will likely start him 75%+ of the time, but when he goes against Balt/SF/Hou, I will see who my other QBs face... and now that NYJ has lost Revis, suddenly those two games don't look so bad. It's not like the Jets will turn into a ball control juggernaut.

i am more optimistic that Brady will "rebound" more than Brees right now... but that is another thread

 

[simey]

You lost me at "defences".

Defence

and defense are different spellings of the same word. Defense is preferred in American English, and defence is preferred in all other main varieties of English, including Australian, British, and Canadian English. The spelling distinction extends to most derivatives of defence/defense, including defences/defenses and defenceless/defenseless. But the words defensive, defensiveness, and defensively have an s in every variety of English.

 

[BoltzNBrew]

PPR Dynasty-

I am thinking of trading Brady but I have Ryan and my RB's are weak(CJ, Martin, Spiller) and WRs are no better(Nicks, Rice, Floyd, Bess). I am scoring points but losing because my WRs outside of Nicks are all WR4 and RB outside of now injured Spiller are RB3's. I need a couple 1's or I might as well trash the season already.

 

[Bankerguy]

oooh I was anxious for this type of thread to pop up. Yudkin and every other NE homer were unreasonable in their expectations. You cannot build an OL in the 1st week of tthe season.

The only thing Brady hasn't done is throw for a lot of TDs yet. People are ready to ditch him after games where he threw for 316 and 335 yards? There have been several plays so far that resulted in dropped TDs, FG attempts, or passing plays that the receiver was tackled a yard or two short of the end zone.Brady is on pace for 630 attempts and 4730 yards. The Pats rushing totals have dipped each game and their passing numbers (except for TDs) have increased each week. The last time Brady had back to back games with only 1 TD pass he went on a binge (2010), where he had 24 TD passes over his next 9 games.If people feel more comfortable that the Ponders, Lucks, Daltons, and Lockers of the world will do better than Brady, by all means start them. But there is a LONG way to go before the season is over.

Alright Yudkin, last chance buddy.

 

[reprisal]

oooh I was anxious for this type of thread to pop up. Yudkin and every other NE homer were unreasonable in their expectations. You cannot build an OL in the 1st week of tthe season.

The only thing Brady hasn't done is throw for a lot of TDs yet. People are ready to ditch him after games where he threw for 316 and 335 yards? There have been several plays so far that resulted in dropped TDs, FG attempts, or passing plays that the receiver was tackled a yard or two short of the end zone.Brady is on pace for 630 attempts and 4730 yards. The Pats rushing totals have dipped each game and their passing numbers (except for TDs) have increased each week. The last time Brady had back to back games with only 1 TD pass he went on a binge (2010), where he had 24 TD passes over his next 9 games.

If people feel more comfortable that the Ponders, Lucks, Daltons, and Lockers of the world will do better than Brady, by all means start them. But there is a LONG way to go before the season is over.

Agree with the general idea here, but has anyone argued that Brady isn't even a top 12 QB? Although this thread's topic claims to about Brady, the only QB comparison made is with RG3 by people who seem to be arguing RG3 is the #1 QB. That's where most of the debate has been focused.

 

[Shutout]

WHOA! WHOA! WHOA!

Take a deep breath here. Brady is going to be just fine. I thik you might be suffering from 50% letdown from what has been an exceptional couple of years and 50% of the hype that the Patriots were going to blow the doors off every record in the NFL this year.

Ok, so you've had three weeks and you've got a little reality check. But this worm is getting ready to turn and here's why:

-The Pats want to be more balanced and the Pats want to have improved defense. Both those things are true. BUT, at the end of the day, the Pats want (and need) to keep pace and win games. The defense showed the last two weeks that they are still suceptible to give and break when its critical and they showed last night in that second half that the best Pats offense is still by letting them do what they do best and that's throw the ball.

-They also had a curve ball thrown in last week early and lost their TE and had to go from a 2-TE base to 3-WR base on the fly. They ran with that last night and we finally saw an inkling of Lloyd's promise in this offense. They will also get Hernandez back at some point.

In general, I think the REALITY of the Pats right now is they are 1-2 and know they can't lose any more ground. The Texans are undefeated in a cupcake division and they have a H2H loss to the Ravens. Both of these teams are very likely to be figuring into the race for HFA in the playoffs. Brady hasn't shown that he just doesn't have it; they just aren't trying to do it that way. That's a big difference and I trust in Belichick enough to think that he knows that too.

I expect, as early as THIS WEEK, you will see the Patriots agrresively attacking in the air again. I expect nothing less than 350/3Tds this weekend. IF Brady doesn't go for AT LEAST that, come back in this thread and we can talk some more but I have a really strong hunch you're going to see what you expected all along this weekend coming.

My thoughts exactly. They are 1-2 and what they are doing isn't working, time to go back to what they do best.

And there you go...Hope youheld Brady and didn't trade him.

 

[Gandalf]

WHOA! WHOA! WHOA!

Take a deep breath here. Brady is going to be just fine. I thik you might be suffering from 50% letdown from what has been an exceptional couple of years and 50% of the hype that the Patriots were going to blow the doors off every record in the NFL this year.

Ok, so you've had three weeks and you've got a little reality check. But this worm is getting ready to turn and here's why:

-The Pats want to be more balanced and the Pats want to have improved defense. Both those things are true. BUT, at the end of the day, the Pats want (and need) to keep pace and win games. The defense showed the last two weeks that they are still suceptible to give and break when its critical and they showed last night in that second half that the best Pats offense is still by letting them do what they do best and that's throw the ball.

-They also had a curve ball thrown in last week early and lost their TE and had to go from a 2-TE base to 3-WR base on the fly. They ran with that last night and we finally saw an inkling of Lloyd's promise in this offense. They will also get Hernandez back at some point.

In general, I think the REALITY of the Pats right now is they are 1-2 and know they can't lose any more ground. The Texans are undefeated in a cupcake division and they have a H2H loss to the Ravens. Both of these teams are very likely to be figuring into the race for HFA in the playoffs. Brady hasn't shown that he just doesn't have it; they just aren't trying to do it that way. That's a big difference and I trust in Belichick enough to think that he knows that too.

I expect, as early as THIS WEEK, you will see the Patriots agrresively attacking in the air again. I expect nothing less than 350/3Tds this weekend. IF Brady doesn't go for AT LEAST that, come back in this thread and we can talk some more but I have a really strong hunch you're going to see what you expected all along this weekend coming.

My thoughts exactly. They are 1-2 and what they are doing isn't working, time to go back to what they do best.

And there you go...Hope youheld Brady and didn't trade him.

Unless you got Aaron Rodgers or Drew Brees back! Otherwise you don't trade Brady. Ever.

 

[Team ROFLCOPTERS]

I just got a trade offer to receive RG3 and Reggie Bush for Brady and A Bradshaw. RG3 was drafted in the 10th round and I can keep one player at the drafted position. Seems like a latteral move this year but a very good investment for next year since I assume RG3 will draw a second round grade next year.

 

[Borat]

What a dumb thread.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Patriots offence doesn't look the same - not the killer instinct the last time Josh McD was around. They seem content on taking what the defences give them. Not great for fantasy but they will win a lot of games.I know a lot of the top tier QB's are struggling but I am thinking of offering up Mr Tom to the RG3 owner and see what happens.Anyone else?

RGIII is the top scorer right now in most formats, no way is anyone going to move him for Brady in dynasty. I even offered Rodgers straight up for RGIII and got rejected, the hype is crazy now.I would say the only QB that can equal RGIII value is Ryan

 

[PatsFanCT]

Patriots offence doesn't look the same - not the killer instinct the last time Josh McD was around. They seem content on taking what the defences give them. Not great for fantasy but they will win a lot of games.I know a lot of the top tier QB's are struggling but I am thinking of offering up Mr Tom to the RG3 owner and see what happens.Anyone else?

RGIII is the top scorer right now in most formats, no way is anyone going to move him for Brady in dynasty. I even offered Rodgers straight up for RGIII and got rejected, the hype is crazy now.I would say the only QB that can equal RGIII value is Ryan

WTF? You offered Rodgers, a solid and proven NFL and Fantasy QB, for a rookie QB? Is this your first year in FF? And all the other nuts doing the same with Brady, I gotta know, what the hell is wrong with you?

 

[KellysHeroes]

Patriots offence doesn't look the same - not the killer instinct the last time Josh McD was around. They seem content on taking what the defences give them. Not great for fantasy but they will win a lot of games.I know a lot of the top tier QB's are struggling but I am thinking of offering up Mr Tom to the RG3 owner and see what happens.Anyone else?

RGIII is the top scorer right now in most formats, no way is anyone going to move him for Brady in dynasty. I even offered Rodgers straight up for RGIII and got rejected, the hype is crazy now.I would say the only QB that can equal RGIII value is Ryan

WTF? You offered Rodgers, a solid and proven NFL and Fantasy QB, for a rookie QB? Is this your first year in FF? And all the other nuts doing the same with Brady, I gotta know, what the hell is wrong with you?

ummm, yes i've played FF for yrs and I'm way ahead of the curve than you; so far ahead that I traded Brady for the right to draft RGIII in my league this off-season. Ofcourse people said it was a stupid move but now look, people like you are getting rejected by the RGIII owners because Brady is old and that light at the end of the tunnel is coming up fast.And yes, i would gladly move Rodgers for RGIII now I've seen what he capable of. The Kid is amazing, i don't blame the other guy at all for rejecting my offer; a good dynasty owner knows when he has something great.Nevermind 2013, if we held a start up draft right now, RGIII would be drafted over Rodgers atleast half of the time and he'd be drafted way ahead of Brady everytime

 

[Bad_Mo]

let's slow the roll...it's week 5 and people have griffin ahead of a HOF QB in Brady...really?

 

[knuckleballah22]

its incredible how many people think brady sucks...now is a great time to buy low

 

[kyoun1e]

its incredible how many people think brady sucks...now is a great time to buy low

You're not going to buy low after Brady accounted for 4 TDs.RG3 is taking too many hits. It's going to catch up with him. This combined with D's getting a smidge smarter on defending him and I think 2nd half of the season, some RG3 fans will be greatly disappointed.KY

 

[meatwad1]

Patriots offence doesn't look the same - not the killer instinct the last time Josh McD was around. They seem content on taking what the defences give them. Not great for fantasy but they will win a lot of games.I know a lot of the top tier QB's are struggling but I am thinking of offering up Mr Tom to the RG3 owner and see what happens.Anyone else?

You know he threw a touchdown pass with about a minute left in the game when they were already up three scores, right? That was pretty good for fantasy. Trade him at your peril.

 

["The Waterboy"]

Not trying to Hijack but I'm thinking of trading Rodgers as my team's 3-1 but is fading fast!!! I've been reading this thread, and others, trying to see what kind of value owner's are getting for the "Big Guy's"??? After this week, I'm thinking that dealing Rodgers is my only hope to save my season! Anyone else in my position care to comment on this type of deal???

 

[meatwad1]

Patriots offence doesn't look the same - not the killer instinct the last time Josh McD was around. They seem content on taking what the defences give them. Not great for fantasy but they will win a lot of games.I know a lot of the top tier QB's are struggling but I am thinking of offering up Mr Tom to the RG3 owner and see what happens.Anyone else?

You know he threw a touchdown pass with about a minute left in the game when they were already up three scores, right? That was pretty good for fantasy. Trade him at your peril.

Ooops, I guess he didn't know that because his post was on Sept. 24.Anyways, heres to hoping he did not make a dumb mistake and trade away Brady!

 

[meatwad1]

Not trying to Hijack but I'm thinking of trading Rodgers as my team's 3-1 but is fading fast!!! I've been reading this thread, and others, trying to see what kind of value owner's are getting for the "Big Guy's"??? After this week, I'm thinking that dealing Rodgers is my only hope to save my season! Anyone else in my position care to comment on this type of deal???

It depends on who your backup qb is, how much trouble your team is actually in, and who you are getting back; there are a lot of variables and a lot could go wrong, especially since the Packers are out of the woods in terms of their schedule.

 

[Chazzhawk]

In dynasty leagues you would trade Brady all day for RGIII if you could, in redrafts it is close because rookies seem to hit the wall, even Cam's passing numbers went down towards the end of last year. In the real NFL no team with a window of winning the Super Bowl for the next couple years would trade Brady for RGIII, and no contending team would have had a pick high enough to draft RGIII, and if they did some crazy trade he wouldn't be starting this year for that team.

 

[Buck Stop]

In a PPR dynasty league where I have and start RG3 each week I traded Tom Brady and Jason Witten last weekend before the games started, for Hernandez and Baldwin. Witten and Brady show their appreciation for my move by having their best games of the season. lol

 

[Gandalf]

Not trying to Hijack but I'm thinking of trading Rodgers as my team's 3-1 but is fading fast!!! I've been reading this thread, and others, trying to see what kind of value owner's are getting for the "Big Guy's"??? After this week, I'm thinking that dealing Rodgers is my only hope to save my season! Anyone else in my position care to comment on this type of deal???

I feel like you are all taking crazy pills. Keep Tom Brady. Keep Aaron Rodgers. Stop it. Just stop. For the good of your team I hope you listen to me.

 

[PatsFanCT]

Well, I'm glad we can finally put this crazy thread to bed.