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Travis Henry. Marijuana. Suspension? (1 Viewer)

I've been wondering if the whole thing Wednesday with the insider tip from 'bongo' was a troll. The OP of that thread (locked thread back four or five pages at this point) though 'flufhead' seemed sincere to me and posted a link to a Titans forum where a guy named bongo was posting 'this is what I heard from an insider' stuff. It's REALLY odd that Henry IS done for the year and the reason Henry is(?) done for year has to do with bong(o) hits.Was the bongo stuff on the titans board a troll? Was 'bongo' just having fun with his handle and leaking the Henry suspension and saying that it was because of his knee? Did bongo hear that Henry was done for the year and assume it was because of his knee? Or is this all just some strange cosmic alignment of planets??I dunno.
I am not a troll.Bongo is not a troll. Bongo is exactly as I described him. a Titans fan, and a person in the medical community (not sure if he is a doctor) that is privvy to more information than alot of people due to the fact that he consults on medical issues for teams (apparently). He posts every single bit of information he gets, without filter, and freely admits he is doing this just to get the information out there, and leave it to the reader to decide what credence to give it. He has had the scoop on some things, and has been way off on some others. The irrationality that is the Shark Pool took my heavily disclaimed post and just ran with it. My thought was the info was concerning enough to warrant getting Young if it could be done cheaply. I never . . .you know what, on second thought, #### it . . . this place is absolutely INSANE sometimes.
The thought did cross my mind, but I didn't think you were a troll, and it didn't sound to me like bongo was a troll either. It would have been way too elaborate and you and bongo qualified your posts over and over. No offense intended, I was just trying to figure out how it had all come together.In your mind are the rumors bongo posted on Wednesday and what happened yesterday at all related? Seems way too much to be a coincidence.BTW, THANK YOU for your post Wednesday. I picked up Young in both of my leagues based on it.
 
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I said it first... HERE!

August 6, 2007 :ptts:

How the poor guy going to feed his 9 illegitimate children now?
No you didnt you said by December Travis Henry wouldnt be carrying the rock full time. And another thing all informed owners knew Travis Henry had 2 strikes against him going into the season and one bad night could end the season it was a risk we (henry owners) all took. You trying to claim you predicted this mess is ######ed you chose MJD over Henry yea good call..........
 
I've been wondering if the whole thing Wednesday with the insider tip from 'bongo' was a troll. The OP of that thread (locked thread back four or five pages at this point) though 'flufhead' seemed sincere to me and posted a link to a Titans forum where a guy named bongo was posting 'this is what I heard from an insider' stuff. It's REALLY odd that Henry IS done for the year and the reason Henry is(?) done for year has to do with bong(o) hits.

Was the bongo stuff on the titans board a troll? Was 'bongo' just having fun with his handle and leaking the Henry suspension and saying that it was because of his knee? Did bongo hear that Henry was done for the year and assume it was because of his knee? Or is this all just some strange cosmic alignment of planets??

I dunno.
I am not a troll.Bongo is not a troll. Bongo is exactly as I described him. a Titans fan, and a person in the medical community (not sure if he is a doctor) that is privvy to more information than alot of people due to the fact that he consults on medical issues for teams (apparently). He posts every single bit of information he gets, without filter, and freely admits he is doing this just to get the information out there, and leave it to the reader to decide what credence to give it. He has had the scoop on some things, and has been way off on some others.

The irrationality that is the Shark Pool took my heavily disclaimed post and just ran with it. My thought was the info was concerning enough to warrant getting Young if it could be done cheaply. I never . . .

you know what, on second thought, #### it . . . this place is absolutely INSANE sometimes.
The thought did cross my mind, but I didn't think you were a troll, and it didn't sound to me like bongo was a troll either. It would have been way too elaborate and you and bongo qualified your posts over and over. No offense intended, I was just trying to figure out how it had all come together.In your mind are the rumors bongo posted on Wednesday and what happened yesterday at all related? Seems way too much to be a coincidence.

BTW, THANK YOU for your post Wednesday. I picked up Young in both of my leagues based on it.
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What is the lawyer saying? I want to be able to drop this bum.
He won't win against the NFL. You should save yourself time and just drop him.
I talked with my Criminal Lawyer friend, and he said maybe Henry's lawsuit would stand a chance if this wasn't his 3rd offense. The judge will look at his history, and simply deny his claim.Regardless - this really isn't a legal matter - this is the NFL enforcing their rules. I don't see how he has any chance here (neither does my lawyer-bud).

 
What is the lawyer saying? I want to be able to drop this bum.
He won't win against the NFL. You should save yourself time and just drop him.
I talked with my Criminal Lawyer friend, and he said maybe Henry's lawsuit would stand a chance if this wasn't his 3rd offense. The judge will look at his history, and simply deny his claim.Regardless - this really isn't a legal matter - this is the NFL enforcing their rules. I don't see how he has any chance here (neither does my lawyer-bud).
The question though is when. Will Henry play this weekend?
 
What is the lawyer saying? I want to be able to drop this bum.
He won't win against the NFL. You should save yourself time and just drop him.
I talked with my Criminal Lawyer friend, and he said maybe Henry's lawsuit would stand a chance if this wasn't his 3rd offense. The judge will look at his history, and simply deny his claim.Regardless - this really isn't a legal matter - this is the NFL enforcing their rules. I don't see how he has any chance here (neither does my lawyer-bud).
The question though is when. Will Henry play this weekend?
I think we'll have a pretty good idea when we know if he practices today.
 
More news on loop hole Henry is trying to use.

http://forums.denverbroncos.com/showthread.php?t=103209

Source says technicality could void test

Last Edited: Friday, 05 Oct 2007, 10:19 AM MDT

Created: Friday, 05 Oct 2007, 10:19 AM MDT

NFL Source: Broncos' Travis Henry Fails Drug Test

Josina Anderson

Fox 31 Sports Insider

DENVER -- An NFL source says Denver Broncos running back Travis Henry might have grounds to challenge the way the NFL handled his drug test. The source has said that Henry tested positive for marijuana.

From Fox 31 Sports Insider Josina Anderson's Blog - October 5, 2007

The N.F.L source who broke the news to Fox 31’s Josina Anderson that starting Bronco running back Travis Henry tested positive for marijuana, and is subject to a one year suspension now...had this to say in a short interview this morning:

Source: “Initially when Henry found out he tested positive for marijuana, and the league was trying to confirm the result with the testing of the B bottle, Henry had his own toxicologist set to witness the testing.” “The problem is Josina, Henry’s toxicologist had an affiliation with another lab, and the league doesn’t like that.” Henry’s toxicologist had a proprietary interest in the lab the league was testing his b sample in.” “That’s when Henry’s people tried to get the restraining order [september 20th] to block the league from moving forward when his original toxicologist was rejected.” “Now although the Suffolk Court [suffolk County Supreme Court] granted Henry a restraining order against the league until a future hearing, to my knowledge the league went ahead and tested the B sample anyways even though another court ended up ruling in their favor.” “But Josina, Henry may get out of this because it is his collective bargaining agreement right to have his on toxicologist present, and now Henry can challenge that his sample was compromised.”

Josina: Since it’s not about what you know, it’s about what you can prove, how can Henry prove that the League tested his B sample without his toxicologist present?

Source: “Henry can say well who was my Toxicologist then…name him…show me a check that I used to pay my Toxicologist!”

Josina: So what’s going to happen here?

Source: “Well if your report didn’t come out, it’s possible the League knowing it has issues with the testing of the sample may have tried to bargain down with Henry and offer a 4 game or a 6 game suspension or something like that who knows!” “But, this could now be an all [1 year suspension] or nothing case with this technicality.” “But if the league can find a way to enforce this they will.” “It’s bad P.R. to let a player continue to play under these circumstances.”

Josina: Do you think the Commissioner [N.F.L Commissioner Roger Goodell] will find a way to circumvent this technicality?”

Source: “He shouldn’t the rules are pretty black and white on this.”

Reporter note: It is being reported now by a national website that Henry was scheduled to rotate out of the N.F.L’s program October 1st under their two year policy. In actuality it is possible for a player that’s in stage 3 of the program [that Henry moved into after his previous 4 game suspension in September of 2005 as a Tennessee Titan] to stay there for the life of their career. So it’s not always a guarantee that a player will or would have rotated out. There are subjective decisions that are made on the cases of players in the league program situation by situation that factor in as well.

 
This opinion from Rotoworld is right on :angry:

The Denver Post believes Travis Henry will be available to play football while his legal case is stuck in legal red tape.

Don't pencil in Selvin Young this weekend just yet. Playing Henry this weekend before the team's Week 6 bye would be an embarrassing P.R. issue, though, so nothing is certain. Henry, who was suffering from ankle and knee injuries, was planning to attempt to practice Friday. No word yet if that will happen.
Sorry hopefull Henry owners :-(
 
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What is the lawyer saying? I want to be able to drop this bum.
He won't win against the NFL. You should save yourself time and just drop him.
I talked with my Criminal Lawyer friend, and he said maybe Henry's lawsuit would stand a chance if this wasn't his 3rd offense. The judge will look at his history, and simply deny his claim.Regardless - this really isn't a legal matter - this is the NFL enforcing their rules. I don't see how he has any chance here (neither does my lawyer-bud).
It's a nice hypothetical, but that's reportedly not what Henry's attorney is arguing, and I've yet to see anyone suggest that is his defense. Even Denver beat writer Bill Williamson posed that as a question yesterday and is now focusing on the Sample A/Sample B issue, probably aware that the timing doesn't work for his prior theory. The test had to have been conducted prior to September 20 for Henry to have filed a September 20 injunction against the NFL. If it is true that Henry was not in the clear until after week 3 (which began on September 23) then it would not have been possible for Henry to have failed after week 3 given the timing of his court filing. The only reported basis for his legal action is that the NFL wants to use his B sample to confirm a bad A sample, and his rep was not allowed to attend the taking of the B sample under a league policy not to allow lab technitions to act in that function.
 
http://broncotalk.net/

"Travis Henry is facing a one-year suspension for violating the league’s substance abuse policy for a third time, after he tested positive for marijuana. We’ve already discussed the idiocy of the timing of this violation (a week or two later and Henry would have been rotated out of the program entirely, cleaning his slate completely), but there is still the entire legal and financial issues that warrant discussing. If Henry wins his legal case, reports indicate that he would likely remain a Denver Bronco, at least in the short term, whether the team wants him or not.

Henry is suing the NFL, and has already won a temporary restraining order against the league, over a technicality in the testing process. He is attempting to have his B Sample removed from evidence in his case because one of his experts was not present during the procedure. The Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA) gives the player the right to have at least one of his experts present, and so the state court granted Henry his request some time after September 20.

The league, however, has already taken the order to court and has had it vacated. The CBA clearly states that the expert Henry is allowed to have present must be independent, and not from another lab. Henry’s expert was from such a lab, which is why he/she was not allowed to be present during the testing procedure. Reports indicate the league even gave Henry a list of 10 such experts that would qualify as independent.

Because the league feels interpretation of the CBA is necessary to cut through all the legal red tape, the case is going to federal labor courts, who seem best fit to deal with such matters. The results of this hearing will have a huge effect on Henry’s future as a Bronco and in the NFL.

While the case is pending, Henry is free to play. If he sits out this weekend against the Chargers, it would be more due to injury and not due to suspension. The team couldn’t suspend Henry while the case is pending - they wouldn’t have a legal leg on which to stand.

If Henry loses his case, he would be suspended for 1 year per the league’s substance abuse policy, effective immediately. I would expect the Denver Broncos would release him. The Broncos would then go after the signing bonus portion of his salary they have already paid, which amounts to approximately $2 million of the $12 million agreed to in his contract. Any other moneys Henry has already received would remain with him, but the Broncos would owe him nothing further and would have no hit on the 2008 salary cap.

If Henry wins his case, the B Sample that tested positive would be removed from evidence. Further samples would likely be taken to confirm the original sample, and if Henry passes that test he would be completely in the clear. Therefore the NFL, and the Denver Broncos, could take no action on the basis of a drug violation.

This means that the Broncos would not be able to attempt to recoup any of Henry’s signing bonus he has already received. It also means, if the team were to release Henry, they wouldn’t have the drug violation to use as basis for breaking that clause. In other words, it’s as if the drug violation never occurred, and the Broncos would still owe Henry a lot of money.

Would the Broncos be willing to cut ties with Henry and simply eat the costs of cutting him in that case? I doubt it. It would be much more sensible for the team to release or trade Henry before his scheduled roster bonus early next year, but after he played for the team this season and “earned” the paycheck we owe him.

On another note, some Broncos fans have been posting questions comparing this case to Chargers linebacker Shawne Merriman’s suspension this year. The two really have nothing to do with one another. Merriman was suspended for steroids, which is handled very differently from marijuana, and warrants an immediate four-game suspension after the initial violation, as opposed to a warning.

The bottom line - only if the federal court sides with the NFL will Henry be suspended. If/when that never happens, Henry will remain active and will avoid the suspension and any other drug-related repercussions completely."

 
Source: “Henry can say well who was my Toxicologist then…name him…show me a check that I used to pay my Toxicologist!”
You must have issues if you have your own personal toxicologist... :mellow:
I think this is just the actual term for the "expert" he was allowed to have with him. I didn't get the impression that it was his Personal Toxicologist (compared to a Personal Trainer).
 
Serious question: Would the Broncos want to play him in week 5? Any Bronco fans out there care to speculate the fan reception of Henry following this when/if he steps on the field? He's seemingly not disputing the A sample and trying to get out of this on a technicality. Has he been a bronco long enough to have developed "blinders" support [i.e. "we have to let the system play itself out to get to the truth" :mellow: ] or would it be a hostile reception since he hasn't been a Bronco long enough to offset anger that he would be so dumb and put the success of the team at risk?

 
Source: “Henry can say well who was my Toxicologist then…name him…show me a check that I used to pay my Toxicologist!”
You must have issues if you have your own personal toxicologist... :shrug:
I think this is just the actual term for the "expert" he was allowed to have with him. I didn't get the impression that it was his Personal Toxicologist (compared to a Personal Trainer).
Im sure this is a union thing.
 
Serious question: Would the Broncos want to play him in week 5? Any Bronco fans out there care to speculate the fan reception of Henry following this when/if he steps on the field? He's seemingly not disputing the A sample and trying to get out of this on a technicality. Has he been a bronco long enough to have developed "blinders" support [i.e. "we have to let the system play itself out to get to the truth" :shrug: ] or would it be a hostile reception since he hasn't been a Bronco long enough to offset anger that he would be so dumb and put the success of the team at risk?
I've been on Broncos msg board a bit this morning. They had a poll on this subject. It was close to a tie with a few more saying let him play than those saying hold him out. But, the ones that said hold him out were VERY adamant about it. they felt he wasn't a proven team mate yet and they didn't want him in there. Not sure if I am supposed to post a link to another forum on here, so I am not going to. But, it was like Bronco's msg board.
 
Serious question: Would the Broncos want to play him in week 5? Any Bronco fans out there care to speculate the fan reception of Henry following this when/if he steps on the field? He's seemingly not disputing the A sample and trying to get out of this on a technicality. Has he been a bronco long enough to have developed "blinders" support [i.e. "we have to let the system play itself out to get to the truth" :rolleyes: ] or would it be a hostile reception since he hasn't been a Bronco long enough to offset anger that he would be so dumb and put the success of the team at risk?
I've been on Broncos msg board a bit this morning. They had a poll on this subject. It was close to a tie with a few more saying let him play than those saying hold him out. But, the ones that said hold him out were VERY adamant about it. they felt he wasn't a proven team mate yet and they didn't want him in there. Not sure if I am supposed to post a link to another forum on here, so I am not going to. But, it was like Bronco's msg board.
There have been links posted to that board several times since last night.http://forums.denverbroncos.com/forumdisplay.php?f=5

 
http://broncotalk.net/



The league, however, has already taken the order to court and has had it vacated. The CBA clearly states that the expert Henry is allowed to have present must be independent, and not from another lab. Henry’s expert was from such a lab, which is why he/she was not allowed to be present during the testing procedure. Reports indicate the league even gave Henry a list of 10 such experts that would qualify as independent.
henry's gonna lose. :rolleyes:
 
I think this is an important detail from a post above:

It is being reported now by a national website that Henry was scheduled to rotate out of the N.F.L’s program October 1st under their two year policy. In actuality it is possible for a player that’s in stage 3 of the program [that Henry moved into after his previous 4 game suspension in September of 2005 as a Tennessee Titan] to stay there for the life of their career. So it’s not always a guarantee that a player will or would have rotated out. There are subjective decisions that are made on the cases of players in the league program situation by situation that factor in as well.
 
Serious question: Would the Broncos want to play him in week 5? Any Bronco fans out there care to speculate the fan reception of Henry following this when/if he steps on the field? He's seemingly not disputing the A sample and trying to get out of this on a technicality. Has he been a bronco long enough to have developed "blinders" support [i.e. "we have to let the system play itself out to get to the truth" :popcorn: ] or would it be a hostile reception since he hasn't been a Bronco long enough to offset anger that he would be so dumb and put the success of the team at risk?
I think Shanahan will do whatever he can to win this game. If Henry is healthy enough to play and not suspended, he'll play.
 
Serious question: Would the Broncos want to play him in week 5? Any Bronco fans out there care to speculate the fan reception of Henry following this when/if he steps on the field? He's seemingly not disputing the A sample and trying to get out of this on a technicality. Has he been a bronco long enough to have developed "blinders" support [i.e. "we have to let the system play itself out to get to the truth" :popcorn: ] or would it be a hostile reception since he hasn't been a Bronco long enough to offset anger that he would be so dumb and put the success of the team at risk?
Colorado is a stoner state, it shouldn't be too bad.Get ready for Selvin Young, this kid is going to hit it hard. A quote from 'Wabbit' over at Orangemane.com who apparently knows people within the organinzation and is a VERY reliable source."There was at least a fair chance that Henry wasn't going to be able to carry the load any longer due to injuries.He has ankle & knee issues that remain unresolved...and by that, I mean he may have some torn cartilage/strained ligament damage in his ankle &/or knee...that may've sidelined him for a time, or at the least, limited his carries.Folks, the coaching staff is very excited about Selvin Young. I do believe they would have preferred that he play a limited role this season before challenging Henry as the feature back, but believe me, there is confidence that they have a special guy in waiting.As with young QBs, there are worries about fumbling & blocking assignments..and that is a major concern, but there is NO doubt among the coaching staff...particularly Bobby Turner...that this kid is the real deal."
 
Serious question: Would the Broncos want to play him in week 5? Any Bronco fans out there care to speculate the fan reception of Henry following this when/if he steps on the field? He's seemingly not disputing the A sample and trying to get out of this on a technicality. Has he been a bronco long enough to have developed "blinders" support [i.e. "we have to let the system play itself out to get to the truth" :goodposting: ] or would it be a hostile reception since he hasn't been a Bronco long enough to offset anger that he would be so dumb and put the success of the team at risk?
I think Shanahan will do whatever he can to win this game. If Henry is healthy enough to play and not suspended, he'll play.
Do you think the Broncos can win this game without Henry? They are playing the Chargers who are not exactly world beaters right now. The Broncos have soo much depth at RB, I think they could win without Henry. If Henry does start, I agree with the Poster that said it could develop into a PR issue.
 
Serious question: Would the Broncos want to play him in week 5? Any Bronco fans out there care to speculate the fan reception of Henry following this when/if he steps on the field? He's seemingly not disputing the A sample and trying to get out of this on a technicality. Has he been a bronco long enough to have developed "blinders" support [i.e. "we have to let the system play itself out to get to the truth" :goodposting: ] or would it be a hostile reception since he hasn't been a Bronco long enough to offset anger that he would be so dumb and put the success of the team at risk?
I think Shanahan will do whatever he can to win this game. If Henry is healthy enough to play and not suspended, he'll play.
I'm not so sure about that. Isn't the NFL moving towards holding teams accountable for how they handle their troubled players?With this very publicly hanging over Henry's head, I don't think it would be in the best interests of either the Broncos, or Shanny, to play him this weekend given the League's current climate.

+ they have the built in excuse of his injury, so the NFLPA can not come in & force them to play Henry if they don't want to.

 
Serious question: Would the Broncos want to play him in week 5? Any Bronco fans out there care to speculate the fan reception of Henry following this when/if he steps on the field? He's seemingly not disputing the A sample and trying to get out of this on a technicality. Has he been a bronco long enough to have developed "blinders" support [i.e. "we have to let the system play itself out to get to the truth" :shrug: ] or would it be a hostile reception since he hasn't been a Bronco long enough to offset anger that he would be so dumb and put the success of the team at risk?
I think Shanahan will do whatever he can to win this game. If Henry is healthy enough to play and not suspended, he'll play.
I'm not so sure about that. Isn't the NFL moving towards holding teams accountable for how they handle their troubled players?With this very publicly hanging over Henry's head, I don't think it would be in the best interests of either the Broncos, or Shanny, to play him this weekend given the League's current climate.

+ they have the built in excuse of his injury, so the NFLPA can not come in & force them to play Henry if they don't want to.
The Broncos might hold him out if there was a chance they might get in trouble for playing him. The drug program is laid out in the CBA, so they aren't going to risk anything by playing him. Players can play during their appeals, and Henry hasn't even been suspended yet. Goodell being commish is actually irrelevant, as the drug program guidelines leave little room for him to play Grim Reaper. Maybe upon reinstatement proceedings (Odell Thurman), but right now, he can only follow procedure. The time for the Broncos to think about this kind of stuff was before the season, when they threw a contract to a two-time loser, and hitched their running game to him.

I can remember people bringing up Henry possibly being suspended for a year if he failed another drug test, and they were told he would be rotating out of the system early in the year. Not early enough, apparently.

 
Serious question: Would the Broncos want to play him in week 5? Any Bronco fans out there care to speculate the fan reception of Henry following this when/if he steps on the field? He's seemingly not disputing the A sample and trying to get out of this on a technicality. Has he been a bronco long enough to have developed "blinders" support [i.e. "we have to let the system play itself out to get to the truth" :wub: ] or would it be a hostile reception since he hasn't been a Bronco long enough to offset anger that he would be so dumb and put the success of the team at risk?
I think Shanahan will do whatever he can to win this game. If Henry is healthy enough to play and not suspended, he'll play.
Do you think the Broncos can win this game without Henry? They are playing the Chargers who are not exactly world beaters right now. The Broncos have soo much depth at RB, I think they could win without Henry. If Henry does start, I agree with the Poster that said it could develop into a PR issue.
Teams don't think like that. When healthy, Henry is their best RB and they will put their best players out there. They wouldn't sit Cutler if they were playing the Rams just because they could probably win with his backup.
 
Serious question: Would the Broncos want to play him in week 5? Any Bronco fans out there care to speculate the fan reception of Henry following this when/if he steps on the field? He's seemingly not disputing the A sample and trying to get out of this on a technicality. Has he been a bronco long enough to have developed "blinders" support [i.e. "we have to let the system play itself out to get to the truth" :mellow: ] or would it be a hostile reception since he hasn't been a Bronco long enough to offset anger that he would be so dumb and put the success of the team at risk?
I think Shanahan will do whatever he can to win this game. If Henry is healthy enough to play and not suspended, he'll play.
Do you think the Broncos can win this game without Henry? They are playing the Chargers who are not exactly world beaters right now. The Broncos have soo much depth at RB, I think they could win without Henry. If Henry does start, I agree with the Poster that said it could develop into a PR issue.
Teams don't think like that. When healthy, Henry is their best RB and they will put their best players out there. They wouldn't sit Cutler if they were playing the Rams just because they could probably win with his backup.
I'm not saying sit Henry because they are playing the Chargers? It's more of sit Henry because of PR reasons and the legal situation he is in right now.
 
With the Dale Carter debacle that Shanahan and the Broncos went thru a few years back I would be surprised if they DON'T have a clause in Henry's contract regarding an issue like this situation. All hypothetical, but if the Broncos do have some protection written into the contract I would expect them not to play Henry until this is cleared up... Anybody heard anything about Heny's contract being in jeopardy over this???

Serious question: Would the Broncos want to play him in week 5? Any Bronco fans out there care to speculate the fan reception of Henry following this when/if he steps on the field? He's seemingly not disputing the A sample and trying to get out of this on a technicality. Has he been a bronco long enough to have developed "blinders" support [i.e. "we have to let the system play itself out to get to the truth" :mellow: ] or would it be a hostile reception since he hasn't been a Bronco long enough to offset anger that he would be so dumb and put the success of the team at risk?
I think Shanahan will do whatever he can to win this game. If Henry is healthy enough to play and not suspended, he'll play.
I'm not so sure about that. Isn't the NFL moving towards holding teams accountable for how they handle their troubled players?With this very publicly hanging over Henry's head, I don't think it would be in the best interests of either the Broncos, or Shanny, to play him this weekend given the League's current climate.

+ they have the built in excuse of his injury, so the NFLPA can not come in & force them to play Henry if they don't want to.
The Broncos might hold him out if there was a chance they might get in trouble for playing him. The drug program is laid out in the CBA, so they aren't going to risk anything by playing him. Players can play during their appeals, and Henry hasn't even been suspended yet. Goodell being commish is actually irrelevant, as the drug program guidelines leave little room for him to play Grim Reaper. Maybe upon reinstatement proceedings (Odell Thurman), but right now, he can only follow procedure. The time for the Broncos to think about this kind of stuff was before the season, when they threw a contract to a two-time loser, and hitched their running game to him.

I can remember people bringing up Henry possibly being suspended for a year if he failed another drug test, and they were told he would be rotating out of the system early in the year. Not early enough, apparently.
 
The Scientist said:
Did Henry practice today? This will answer a lot of the questions/speculation going around here.
Bill Williamson, of The Denver Post, reports Denver Broncos RB Travis Henry (knee, ankle) participated in practice Friday, Oct. 5. Henry is day-to-day and may be available to play during Week 5.
 
Atlanta suspended Vick before he even had his case heard in court. Think Denver will do that with Henry (it's his 3rd time since in the NFL)?
They are NOT going to suspend him while he is fighting the "legality" of the substance test... if he won that and they had suspended him first, they would look bad and be kicking themselves for suspending the NFLs leading rusher... NOT happening.
 
The tragedy that is Travis Henry

Broncos running back is likely to become the quintessential tragic hero

By Mike Klis The Denver Post

Article Last Updated: 10/05/2007 02:04:28 PM MDT

People don't have to deal with death to experience tragedy.

Travis Henry is a living definition.

According to my dictionary, a tragedy is a drama in which the main character is brought to ruin or suffers extreme sorrow, especially as a consequence of a tragic flaw, moral weakness, or inability to cope with unfavorable circumstances.

Ladies and gentlemen, Travis Henry, in a matter of weeks if not days, is likely to become the quintessential tragic hero. It was all there for the Broncos' running back. He was blessed with so much strength, quickness and an innate ability to carry a football.

He recently had a new, five-year contract with $12 million in guarantees, although we will now see about that.

He got to play running back with the Denver Broncos, an organization with the NFL's most-prolific tailback system of the past dozen seasons. Through four games with his new team, Henry was, and is, the NFL's leading rusher.

The Broncos counted on Henry. Pretty much placed all their footballs in his equipment bag. And now the Broncos are caught holding the possibility of a lost season.

Their only chance for the Broncos, it seems, is for the judicial system to live up its well-deserved reputation of putting off today what can be postponed in a few months. Henry tested positive for marijuana for the second time in two years, although he insisted through court documents he filed to overturn the results, "There is no valid reason why any unlawful substance would be in my urine. This must be a mistake."

The mistake will be on the Broncos. Once NFL lawyers — let's call them the New England Patriots of the U.S. legal system — get Henry's complaint dismissed, he will be suspended for a full season, or 16 games.

It might as well be a lifetime. Anyone seen Ricky Williams in the league lately?

Pot is about to ruin Henry as a football player and bring suffering of extreme sorrow to Broncoland.

And, please, don't start with the pot debates. The cause of the infraction is irrelevant next to the felony irresponsibility committed against teammates, the coach who believed in Henry and a fan base that blankets the Rocky Mountain region.

No one is going to say the Broncos got a bad break with Henry's latest indiscretion. They knew the risk he presented and they signed him anyway. Guarantee the other 31 teams will say the Broncos got what they deserve.

But after getting to know Henry these past seven months, I understand why Mike Shanahan gave him a shot. Henry is genuinely friendly. He not only likes to laugh, he will laugh at himself. He is polite, mannerly.

A guy like that will break your heart.

I feel bad for him. I feel worse for the Broncos fans. This goes beyond a team having its Super Bowl chances damaged. The shame will be Henry carrying the ball until the protracted court system plays out, and Bronco fans not feeling right about cheering.

It's hard to believe neutral fans across the country will have trouble rooting for a team that includes Champ Bailey, John Lynch, Daniel Graham and Tom Nalen. But the Henry saga is what they mean by one bad apple spoiling the bunch.

How tragic

 
This won't clear much up: (from RotoWorld)

Travis Henry returned to practice Friday and declared himself ready to play against the Chargers.

Mike Shanahan apparently didn't explicitly say Henry would start, but it's looking that way. "Obviously this is a very touchy situation," Shanahan said. "Let’s let the due process take care of itself." The Broncos have a 4PM start, and his status should become more definite by Sunday morning. He's healthy enough to play. The Selvin Young era may have to wait until the legal process runs its course.

Perhaps Henry owners will squeeze one last week out of him?

 
Also, I have access to the court filing system where Henry's suit is lodged; I'm going to read over the documents, and if I find anything interesting, I'll report back.

 
Their only chance for the Broncos, it seems, is for the judicial system to live up its well-deserved reputation of putting off today what can be postponed in a few months. Henry tested positive for marijuana for the second time in two years, although he insisted through court documents he filed to overturn the results, "There is no valid reason why any unlawful substance would be in my urine. This must be a mistake."....It might as well be a lifetime. Anyone seen Ricky Williams in the league lately?
I will only offer this simple reply.Henry will litigate this, the courts will allow him to, and it could drag on for weeks or lots more.IMHO T Henry will play, if healthy enough (and I think he is), until the legal system denies him the right to and Coach Shanny will run him into the ground if he can.As far as Ricky Williams goes, no we have not seen him lately (SUSPENDED! duh.) He too will be signed if allowed to return to the league. Would I sign him, I don't trust him, but some team will based on his skills and his lack of wear and tear over the last few years. Okay! Wear and tear on his brain cells is one thing :lmao: but this is running a ball, not rocket science. :bow: Duggy
 
It appears Broncos star running back Travis Henry will play Sunday against San Diego despite injury and legal problems.

After his fist practice of the week Friday, Henry proclaimed himself healthy, saying "I'm going to play Sunday."

Denver coach Mike Shanahan said also said Henry will play if he is fully recovered from ankle and knee injuries suffered last week at Indianapolis. Meanwhile, both Henry and Shanahan declined to elaborate on the news that Henry is suing the NFL to halt the release of a drug test that would result in the NFL suspending him for a year.

Henry is disputing the urine samples in a New York court. It seems the case will take weeks to unfold before the NFL decides to suspend Henry.

Meanwhile, Shanahan

said star receiver Javon Walker will not play Sunday against the Chargers. Walker has a knee issue that will need a couple more weeks of recovery time. Brandon Stokley will start in Walker's place.

 
Clayton was talking on ESPN and said it could take up to a month for all the appeals and such to be taken care of.

 
PTI was arguing how could this guy get suspended for a year and bill belichick doesnt get a day off for cheating.. makes a good point im sure henry would pay 500k instead of a year off

 
Based on what was said in Denver today I'd say there's 0% chance Henry is suspended by the Broncos for this game. Denver needs this game bad so there's no way they sit their best RB. It looks like there's about a 99.9% chance now that Henry starts. The only question is will he get the heavy workload he's been getting or will Young get a few carries to keep Henry fresh?

 

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