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Rotoworld....

Selvin Young-RB-Broncos Sep. 17 - 3:38 pm et

Broncos coach Mike Shanahan says he plans to use Selvin Young to spell Travis Henry going forward to keep Henry fresh.

Young, Henry's clear backup, had a 40-yard run in Week 2. "I can see him as a starter," Shanahan said. "He is a starter in this league." The bigger concern for Henry owners is Cecil Sapp, who may be Denver's new goal-line back.Source: denverbroncos.com

Related: Cecil Sapp, Travis Henry
Sapp seems to be the better goal line runner. This should knock Hernry's value somewhat.
 
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Im pretty sure that Henry was the tailback and Sapp was the FB on the play Sapp got the TD. They just called a quick FB dive that worked to perfection. I wouldnt be too worried about Henry, he has looked great in both games so far.

 
Im pretty sure that Henry was the tailback and Sapp was the FB on the play Sapp got the TD. They just called a quick FB dive that worked to perfection. I wouldnt be too worried about Henry, he has looked great in both games so far.
This is correct. it was in inside handoff to the FB, which Sapp was playing. Even L. Neal vultures some one yarders from LT2.... at THIS point nothing to be concerned about.Even if Sapp becomes their best one yard option, we are talking 2-3 TD possibilities over the year. Yeah, that means something but hardly as if the sky is falling for Henry. 2+ yards and he is going to be the guy regardless.
 
So why does Henry get an optimistic outlook and Maroney gets "the sky is falling?" Thats the real question.
Because he has 319 yards of offense so far and is RB8 without scoring a TD and Maroney has 149 yards of offense and is RB28?
Henry leads the league in rushing and Maroney is not even close. Hard not to look on the bright side when the back is the rushing leader.
 
So why does Henry get an optimistic outlook and Maroney gets "the sky is falling?" Thats the real question.
Good question. I suppose you'll hear all about how many yards Henry has compared to Maroney. :goodposting:
How about the fact that no one on Denver's carried the ball more than 5 times in either game where Morris has 10+ carries in each game for the Patriots?Or maybe that its not the total yards, but what each runner is doing when handed the ball?Henry 5.4 YPCMaroney 4.2 YPCOr could it be the fact that Bellichek clearly isn't using Maroney in 3rd and long situations and is favoring Faulk and Morris in these situations?Or maybe that it's traditiionally a run first offense in Denver where NE isn't opposed to slinging it 50 times a game when the situation presents itself.
 
So why does Henry get an optimistic outlook and Maroney gets "the sky is falling?" Thats the real question.
Good question. I suppose you'll hear all about how many yards Henry has compared to Maroney. :)
How about the fact that no one on Denver's carried the ball more than 5 times in either game where Morris has 10+ carries in each game for the Patriots?Or maybe that its not the total yards, but what each runner is doing when handed the ball?Henry 5.4 YPCMaroney 4.2 YPCOr could it be the fact that Bellichek clearly isn't using Maroney in 3rd and long situations and is favoring Faulk and Morris in these situations?Or maybe that it's traditiionally a run first offense in Denver where NE isn't opposed to slinging it 50 times a game when the situation presents itself.
:no:
 
Here is why you give the ball to Sapp at the

I don't agree with you Cecil...I mean Brong (I'm assuming there aren't really any Cecil Sapp fans in the world). :thumbdown: Anyway, If Travis Henry were running among a group of college kids that tackle with their hands he would also have scored on the TD run you posted from YouTube. Henry will get goal line carries. Sapp was the beneficiary of what amounted to a trick play on the 4 yard line. I wouldn't panic just yet Henry owners.

 
So why does Henry get an optimistic outlook and Maroney gets "the sky is falling?" Thats the real question.
Good question. I suppose you'll hear all about how many yards Henry has compared to Maroney. :mellow:
How about the fact that no one on Denver's carried the ball more than 5 times in either game where Morris has 10+ carries in each game for the Patriots?Or maybe that its not the total yards, but what each runner is doing when handed the ball?Henry 5.4 YPCMaroney 4.2 YPCOr could it be the fact that Bellichek clearly isn't using Maroney in 3rd and long situations and is favoring Faulk and Morris in these situations?Or maybe that it's traditiionally a run first offense in Denver where NE isn't opposed to slinging it 50 times a game when the situation presents itself.
Or it could also be that he's in the top six RBs in fantasy points to this point and was probably drafted outside of the top ten.
 
So why does Henry get an optimistic outlook and Maroney gets "the sky is falling?" Thats the real question.
Good question. I suppose you'll hear all about how many yards Henry has compared to Maroney. :violin:
How about the fact that no one on Denver's carried the ball more than 5 times in either game where Morris has 10+ carries in each game for the Patriots?Or maybe that its not the total yards, but what each runner is doing when handed the ball?Henry 5.4 YPCMaroney 4.2 YPCOr could it be the fact that Bellichek clearly isn't using Maroney in 3rd and long situations and is favoring Faulk and Morris in these situations?Or maybe that it's traditiionally a run first offense in Denver where NE isn't opposed to slinging it 50 times a game when the situation presents itself.
Or it could also be that he's in the top six RBs in fantasy points to this point and was probably drafted outside of the top ten.
After two weeks he's 14th and Portis and Westbrook have yet to go.1. Barber M, DAL 26.0 2. Gore F, SF 25.0 3. James E, ARI 24.0 4. Addai J, IND 22.04. Alexander S, 20.0 6. Jordan L, OAK 20.07. Peterson A, MIN 19.08. Williams C, TB 15.09. Johnson R, CIN 17.010. Lewis J, CLE 17.011. Parker W, PIT 17.012. Ward D, NYG 16.013. Tomlinson L, 15.014. Henry T, DEN 14.0So he's right about where he's supposed to be, but against the defenses he has played I think people are justified in being concerned especially when he isn't getting the ball in critical situations.
 
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Rotoworld....

Selvin Young-RB-Broncos Sep. 17 - 3:38 pm et

Broncos coach Mike Shanahan says he plans to use Selvin Young to spell Travis Henry going forward to keep Henry fresh.

Young, Henry's clear backup, had a 40-yard run in Week 2. "I can see him as a starter," Shanahan said. "He is a starter in this league." The bigger concern for Henry owners is Cecil Sapp, who may be Denver's new goal-line back.Source: denverbroncos.com

Related: Cecil Sapp, Travis Henry
Sapp seems to be the better goal line runner. This should knock Hernry's value somewhat.
So Rotoworld speculates wildly based on a quote from Shanahan that has nothing to do with goalline carries--and it works everyone here into a frenzy?Ok.

 
Shanahan has a history of getting tricky at the goal line, bootlegs to the halfback or TE are a staple of his offense along with fullback dives.

Shanny uses the formation that Sapp scored from all the time (bell ran from it multiple times yesterday too), henry always flares out to the side of the line where sapp dives, later in the year you can expect that Shanny will work in some pitches to Henry with Sapp getting the fake hand off.

Henry is fine and will continue to be fine.

 
If there's one thing I'm sure of this season, it's Henry being a top-5 RB if he stays healthy. He'll get his TDs (Sapp is the FB in the GL package)...patience, grasshoppers. ;)

 
Henry Bashers... do you really think Henry isn't going to get a TD all season long? Even if he doesn't get a single goal-line carry, he's probably going to wind up with 6+ TDs on plays that start outside of goal-to-go situations, and with all the rushing yardage that he's piling up, 6+ TDs will still make him an uberstud.

And make no mistake, Henry WILL get goal-line carries this season. Will he get all of them? Of course not. Marion Barber III doesn't get all of his team's goal-line carries. LaDanian Tomlinson doesn't get all of his team's goal-line carries. Henry won't get all of Denver's, either, but he will get a piece of that pie, and he'll score plenty of TDs from outside of the Goal-To-Go situations, and he'll get ridiculous yardage. The end result? Top-10 RB with ease.

 
So why does Henry get an optimistic outlook and Maroney gets "the sky is falling?" Thats the real question.
Good question. I suppose you'll hear all about how many yards Henry has compared to Maroney. :goodposting:
How about the fact that no one on Denver's carried the ball more than 5 times in either game where Morris has 10+ carries in each game for the Patriots?Or maybe that its not the total yards, but what each runner is doing when handed the ball?Henry 5.4 YPCMaroney 4.2 YPCOr could it be the fact that Bellichek clearly isn't using Maroney in 3rd and long situations and is favoring Faulk and Morris in these situations?Or maybe that it's traditiionally a run first offense in Denver where NE isn't opposed to slinging it 50 times a game when the situation presents itself.
Or it could also be that he's in the top six RBs in fantasy points to this point and was probably drafted outside of the top ten.
After two weeks he's 14th and Portis and Westbrook have yet to go.1. Barber M, DAL 26.0 2. Gore F, SF 25.0 3. James E, ARI 24.0 4. Addai J, IND 22.04. Alexander S, 20.0 6. Jordan L, OAK 20.07. Peterson A, MIN 19.08. Williams C, TB 15.09. Johnson R, CIN 17.010. Lewis J, CLE 17.011. Parker W, PIT 17.012. Ward D, NYG 16.013. Tomlinson L, 15.014. Henry T, DEN 14.0So he's right about where he's supposed to be, but against the defenses he has played I think people are justified in being concerned especially when he isn't getting the ball in critical situations.
Have you WATCHED Denver play this year? (seriously)
 
Henry Bashers... do you really think Henry isn't going to get a TD all season long? Even if he doesn't get a single goal-line carry, he's probably going to wind up with 6+ TDs on plays that start outside of goal-to-go situations, and with all the rushing yardage that he's piling up, 6+ TDs will still make him an uberstud.And make no mistake, Henry WILL get goal-line carries this season. Will he get all of them? Of course not. Marion Barber III doesn't get all of his team's goal-line carries. LaDanian Tomlinson doesn't get all of his team's goal-line carries. Henry won't get all of Denver's, either, but he will get a piece of that pie, and he'll score plenty of TDs from outside of the Goal-To-Go situations, and he'll get ridiculous yardage. The end result? Top-10 RB with ease.
:goodposting:
 
So why does Henry get an optimistic outlook and Maroney gets "the sky is falling?" Thats the real question.
Good question. I suppose you'll hear all about how many yards Henry has compared to Maroney. :goodposting:
How about the fact that no one on Denver's carried the ball more than 5 times in either game where Morris has 10+ carries in each game for the Patriots?Or maybe that its not the total yards, but what each runner is doing when handed the ball?Henry 5.4 YPCMaroney 4.2 YPCOr could it be the fact that Bellichek clearly isn't using Maroney in 3rd and long situations and is favoring Faulk and Morris in these situations?Or maybe that it's traditiionally a run first offense in Denver where NE isn't opposed to slinging it 50 times a game when the situation presents itself.
Or it could also be that he's in the top six RBs in fantasy points to this point and was probably drafted outside of the top ten.
After two weeks he's 14th and Portis and Westbrook have yet to go.1. Barber M, DAL 26.0 2. Gore F, SF 25.0 3. James E, ARI 24.0 4. Addai J, IND 22.04. Alexander S, 20.0 6. Jordan L, OAK 20.07. Peterson A, MIN 19.08. Williams C, TB 15.09. Johnson R, CIN 17.010. Lewis J, CLE 17.011. Parker W, PIT 17.012. Ward D, NYG 16.013. Tomlinson L, 15.014. Henry T, DEN 14.0So he's right about where he's supposed to be, but against the defenses he has played I think people are justified in being concerned especially when he isn't getting the ball in critical situations.
Not sure where you got those rankings, but in my league Henry is 7th and does not have a TD yet, that is impressive. If he continues to lead the league in rushing the TDs will come. I would be estatic to have Henry as my RB2 and more that satisfied if he was my RB1.
 
So why does Henry get an optimistic outlook and Maroney gets "the sky is falling?" Thats the real question.
Good question. I suppose you'll hear all about how many yards Henry has compared to Maroney. :rolleyes:
How about the fact that no one on Denver's carried the ball more than 5 times in either game where Morris has 10+ carries in each game for the Patriots?Or maybe that its not the total yards, but what each runner is doing when handed the ball?Henry 5.4 YPCMaroney 4.2 YPCOr could it be the fact that Bellichek clearly isn't using Maroney in 3rd and long situations and is favoring Faulk and Morris in these situations?Or maybe that it's traditiionally a run first offense in Denver where NE isn't opposed to slinging it 50 times a game when the situation presents itself.
Or it could also be that he's in the top six RBs in fantasy points to this point and was probably drafted outside of the top ten.
After two weeks he's 14th and Portis and Westbrook have yet to go.1. Barber M, DAL 26.0 2. Gore F, SF 25.0 3. James E, ARI 24.0 4. Addai J, IND 22.04. Alexander S, 20.0 6. Jordan L, OAK 20.07. Peterson A, MIN 19.08. Williams C, TB 15.09. Johnson R, CIN 17.010. Lewis J, CLE 17.011. Parker W, PIT 17.012. Ward D, NYG 16.013. Tomlinson L, 15.014. Henry T, DEN 14.0So he's right about where he's supposed to be, but against the defenses he has played I think people are justified in being concerned especially when he isn't getting the ball in critical situations.
Hmmm very interesting :confused: , what type of scoring system is that???In my League he has 19pts(wk01) and 14pts(this week) = 33 pts - very nice top 8 after 2 weeks.
 
So why does Henry get an optimistic outlook and Maroney gets "the sky is falling?" Thats the real question.
Good question. I suppose you'll hear all about how many yards Henry has compared to Maroney. :rolleyes:
How about the fact that no one on Denver's carried the ball more than 5 times in either game where Morris has 10+ carries in each game for the Patriots?Or maybe that its not the total yards, but what each runner is doing when handed the ball?Henry 5.4 YPCMaroney 4.2 YPCOr could it be the fact that Bellichek clearly isn't using Maroney in 3rd and long situations and is favoring Faulk and Morris in these situations?Or maybe that it's traditiionally a run first offense in Denver where NE isn't opposed to slinging it 50 times a game when the situation presents itself.
Or it could also be that he's in the top six RBs in fantasy points to this point and was probably drafted outside of the top ten.
After two weeks he's 14th and Portis and Westbrook have yet to go.1. Barber M, DAL 26.0 2. Gore F, SF 25.0 3. James E, ARI 24.0 4. Addai J, IND 22.04. Alexander S, 20.0 6. Jordan L, OAK 20.07. Peterson A, MIN 19.08. Williams C, TB 15.09. Johnson R, CIN 17.010. Lewis J, CLE 17.011. Parker W, PIT 17.012. Ward D, NYG 16.013. Tomlinson L, 15.014. Henry T, DEN 14.0So he's right about where he's supposed to be, but against the defenses he has played I think people are justified in being concerned especially when he isn't getting the ball in critical situations.
Hmmm very interesting :confused: , what type of scoring system is that???In my League he has 19pts(wk01) and 14pts(this week) = 33 pts - very nice top 8 after 2 weeks.
It looks like a pretty TD heavy one
 
Hey guys, in my scoring system, yards are worth 50 points each and TDs are only worth .5 points and Travis Henry is the #1 RB in the entire NFL so all of you are Stupid McStpuid faces 4 not reconizing his value!!11!!1!

For future reference... if you use a bizarre scoring system, then don't jump into a conversation without first prefacing your statements with a qualifier that you're using a messed up scoring system and, as a result, your insight is pretty much irrelevant for 99% of the fantasy community.

 
Scoring system we use is pretty basic. 1 pt. for 20 yds rushing or receiving and 6 pts. for a TD. So, every 100 yards he gets 5 points.

 
For future reference... if you use a bizarre scoring system, then don't jump into a conversation without first prefacing your statements with a qualifier that you're using a messed up scoring system and, as a result, your insight is pretty much irrelevant for 99% of the fantasy community.
:confused:
 
Scoring system we use is pretty basic. 1 pt. for 20 yds rushing or receiving and 6 pts. for a TD. So, every 100 yards he gets 5 points.
That may be basic, but it's not common.1 pt. for 10 yds rushing or receiving is most common. That doubles Henry's YTD scoring.
 
Scoring system we use is pretty basic. 1 pt. for 20 yds rushing or receiving and 6 pts. for a TD. So, every 100 yards he gets 5 points.
That's as basic as a scoring system that gives 1 pt. for 5 yards rushing, and the analysis will wind up just as irrelevant to 99% of fantasy football players.
 
Im pretty sure that Henry was the tailback and Sapp was the FB on the play Sapp got the TD. They just called a quick FB dive that worked to perfection. I wouldnt be too worried about Henry, he has looked great in both games so far.
They did this same play at least 3 times in the buffalo game with Sapp and it was ineffective and irritating. Bronco homer and I wish Shanny would stop trying to be so damn cute in the red zone. Give Henry the ball or mix it up with the bootleg pass to our big $$ TE. I like the occasional end zone corner pass to our 6'4" WRs though.However, Shanny seems to be holding Jay back (rightfully so??) They’re stalling in red zone and seem to be losing confidence. Elam owners will be happy all year and Bronco fans will be pissed off at an 8-8 season. Annoying as hell.
 
Scoring system is irrelevant to this discussion.

Henry is getting a ton of touches and he is producing excellent numbers with his opportunities. What more can you ask for than opportunities? Henry is getting plenty.

TDs are too volatile to predict, so don't bother getting upset over them.

ETA: And no one cares about your scoring system.

 
Chaka said:
Scoring system is irrelevant to this discussion.Henry is getting a ton of touches and he is producing excellent numbers with his opportunities. What more can you ask for than opportunities? Henry is getting plenty.TDs are too volatile to predict, so don't bother getting upset over them.ETA: And no one cares about your scoring system.
:unsure: Travis Henry is running like a man possesed...this has all the makings of an epic season...
 
Selvin Young should start leaching more and more of his carries away. Bobby Turner is ecstatic about Young and Shanahan calls him 'The Natural', a term he hasn't used since '95 when a certain 6th round pick started making plays and heads turn. Henry is the back of now (should do VERY well this year), but Young is the future of this Denver running attack. Just FYI.

 
Selvin Young should start leaching more and more of his carries away. Bobby Turner is ecstatic about Young and Shanahan calls him 'The Natural', a term he hasn't used since '95 when a certain 6th round pick started making plays and heads turn. Henry is the back of now (should do VERY well this year), but Young is the future of this Denver running attack. Just FYI.
Or is Shanahan just pumping up his latest RB that he can dump off on another squad in a year or so for a draft pick (i.e. Gary, Droughns, Bell, etc)?
 
Selvin Young should start leaching more and more of his carries away. Bobby Turner is ecstatic about Young and Shanahan calls him 'The Natural', a term he hasn't used since '95 when a certain 6th round pick started making plays and heads turn. Henry is the back of now (should do VERY well this year), but Young is the future of this Denver running attack. Just FYI.
Or is Shanahan just pumping up his latest RB that he can dump off on another squad in a year or so for a draft pick (i.e. Gary, Droughns, Bell, etc)?
I don't think so.. Remember Henry was brought in.. Young picked up by him as an undrafted rookie.. They REALLY like this Young kid... In all 4 of my leagues the kid is being held. I wonder why. Is it Henry's durability or the fact they think Young might push Henry off the top??? I guess we will see..
 
Selvin Young should start leaching more and more of his carries away. Bobby Turner is ecstatic about Young and Shanahan calls him 'The Natural', a term he hasn't used since '95 when a certain 6th round pick started making plays and heads turn. Henry is the back of now (should do VERY well this year), but Young is the future of this Denver running attack. Just FYI.
Or is Shanahan just pumping up his latest RB that he can dump off on another squad in a year or so for a draft pick (i.e. Gary, Droughns, Bell, etc)?
I don't think so.. Remember Henry was brought in.. Young picked up by him as an undrafted rookie.. They REALLY like this Young kid... In all 4 of my leagues the kid is being held. I wonder why. Is it Henry's durability or the fact they think Young might push Henry off the top??? I guess we will see..
So your four owners know 100% more than the rest of the FF community?Likely.
 
Selvin Young should start leaching more and more of his carries away. Bobby Turner is ecstatic about Young and Shanahan calls him 'The Natural', a term he hasn't used since '95 when a certain 6th round pick started making plays and heads turn. Henry is the back of now (should do VERY well this year), but Young is the future of this Denver running attack. Just FYI.
Or is Shanahan just pumping up his latest RB that he can dump off on another squad in a year or so for a draft pick (i.e. Gary, Droughns, Bell, etc)?
I don't think so.. Remember Henry was brought in.. Young picked up by him as an undrafted rookie.. They REALLY like this Young kid... In all 4 of my leagues the kid is being held. I wonder why. Is it Henry's durability or the fact they think Young might push Henry off the top??? I guess we will see..
So your four owners know 100% more than the rest of the FF community?Likely.
People obviously see value in him this year.. If you can't then you better dig some more. Henry hasn't played in 16 games since 2002. Obviously others know that and see a guy who just needs start to rip it from him..
 
Selvin Young should start leaching more and more of his carries away. Bobby Turner is ecstatic about Young and Shanahan calls him 'The Natural', a term he hasn't used since '95 when a certain 6th round pick started making plays and heads turn. Henry is the back of now (should do VERY well this year), but Young is the future of this Denver running attack. Just FYI.
Or is Shanahan just pumping up his latest RB that he can dump off on another squad in a year or so for a draft pick (i.e. Gary, Droughns, Bell, etc)?
I don't think so.. Remember Henry was brought in.. Young picked up by him as an undrafted rookie.. They REALLY like this Young kid... In all 4 of my leagues the kid is being held. I wonder why. Is it Henry's durability or the fact they think Young might push Henry off the top??? I guess we will see..
I think a little of the former but more of the latter, but all in due time. Henry's pass blocking skills need to improve and with Henry starting, they have all the time in the world to let him develop. It's not that they aren't happy with Henry, just that they seem to have found another diamond in the rough.
 
Selvin Young should start leaching more and more of his carries away. Bobby Turner is ecstatic about Young and Shanahan calls him 'The Natural', a term he hasn't used since '95 when a certain 6th round pick started making plays and heads turn. Henry is the back of now (should do VERY well this year), but Young is the future of this Denver running attack. Just FYI.
Or is Shanahan just pumping up his latest RB that he can dump off on another squad in a year or so for a draft pick (i.e. Gary, Droughns, Bell, etc)?
I don't think so.. Remember Henry was brought in.. Young picked up by him as an undrafted rookie.. They REALLY like this Young kid... In all 4 of my leagues the kid is being held. I wonder why. Is it Henry's durability or the fact they think Young might push Henry off the top??? I guess we will see..
So your four owners know 100% more than the rest of the FF community me?Likely. Probably.
Fixed it for you. :)
 
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I would be interested in seeing if someone could go back through his career and show me whether or not Henry has been a successful goal line back. My hunch is "Yes", but I am too lazy don't have the time to look it up.

 
I would be interested in seeing if someone could go back through his career and show me whether or not Henry has been a successful goal line back. My hunch is "Yes", but I am too lazy don't have the time to look it up.
You a subscriber?If so, you can find that info in less than 3 minutes, like I did:

Since 2002, including this year, from inside the 5, 51 carries, 22 TDs.

 
Marc Levin said:
And he was a maniac from inside the 5 in his second and third years with Buffalo.
I am a subscriber. No, I didn't take the time to look. But your brief answer sort of confirms what I had already suspected.If Henry has a history of success inside the five, we have no reason to suspect that Shanahan wouldn't want to exploit this. Having shown that he'll give the ball to the FB in these situations (and be successful in doing so) gives 14 weeks' worth of opponents something extra to think about when they are scheming against a heavy package at the goal line. Henry will get his.
 
MogusMaximus said:
Selvin Young should start leaching more and more of his carries away. Bobby Turner is ecstatic about Young and Shanahan calls him 'The Natural', a term he hasn't used since '95 when a certain 6th round pick started making plays and heads turn. Henry is the back of now (should do VERY well this year), but Young is the future of this Denver running attack. Just FYI.
Or is Shanahan just pumping up his latest RB that he can dump off on another squad in a year or so for a draft pick (i.e. Gary, Droughns, Bell, etc)?
I don't think so.. Remember Henry was brought in.. Young picked up by him as an undrafted rookie.. They REALLY like this Young kid... In all 4 of my leagues the kid is being held. I wonder why. Is it Henry's durability or the fact they think Young might push Henry off the top??? I guess we will see..
So your four owners know 100% more than the rest of the FF community me?Likely. Probably.
Fixed it for you. :homer:
:P Own the guy (Young) in 4 of my five leagues. The reasons I own him have nothing to do with him taking the job from Henry, and I only own Travis in one league.

The point was that there's no way 4 random FF owners know more than the nerds here (myself included) who read the blogger every day, search news stories, etc.

 

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