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Tre Mason (2 Viewers)

Someone dropped Knile Davis for him. Some people feel he offers a bit of upside.
Dropping Davis for Mason seems a bit crazy
I would not do it but I would not call it crazy either, depends on your team needs.

Knile was basically close to a zero last week and will likely be close to a zero most weeks Charles is 100% healthy. Mason has a fighting chance to be the primary ball carrier on his team. If you want to hold a guy for an injury related homerun than you hang onto Knile. You need a RB to actually have a chance to produce some points without waiting on an injury than I'd rather have Mason.

 
with the changing of the guard in MIN, I plan to drop Asiata for Mason in 1 league and Taliaferro for him in another. That's about where i see his value right now...with the potential of some better upside

 
Just went back and watched Mason's touches from MNF on NFL Rewind ..MAN, he looks GOOD.

At 5'8 200, can he carry a significant load? Seems like he's build in the MJD mold and it was fun to watch him repeatedly push defenders. Cunningham and Stacy don't blow me away so it won't be surprising to see Mason start getting more of a role (outside of pass pro).

 
STL upcoming schedule looks tough for any RB.
no doubt and you can't play him but to me this could be where he really has a chance to shine. The guys ahead of him are more plodding and likely won't be able to make their own holes and will likely get bottled up. If he can come in and show some burst and make something from nothing on a couple plays who knows what will happen.

I didn't see anyone address why he was active last week? I haven't followed the situation closely but I'm assuming he was inactive to start the year because he was learning the offense and such? any quote or anything from Fisher about why they made him active last week?

 
Just picked him up. I have Murray and Randle is still available, though, so I'm not sure how long I can hold him...

 
This is not going to amount to nothing for FF. Get away from this entire backfield if you still can guys.
Are you not sure it's not going to not amount to nothing? If not, How not not sure are you?

To clear it up, what you just said is: This is going to amount to something for FF.
What are your saying??This is a mess. The Rams have a good group of RBs. That's great for the NFL, but useless for FF. Even Tavon Austin is getting carries now. By my count that's 4 backs in the stable with an unpredictable coach. You can't logically make anything more out of this. Mason looked like fresh legs( and a weak pass blocker), but he's not going to be a factor getting 3-7 touches a game. He's not Antone Smith.
who's to say what will happen RB wise...no one predicted Stacy would emerge last year. a guy gets injured, someone becomes inactive.
Agree. All the same things were being said about this same team at this time last year. If you're going to take a flyer on one of them, wouldn't you want it to be on the one that appears to be the most explosive?
I guess... I'd rather stay away. I don't see a reason for Fisher to change what he's did vs SF last night. It could have easily been T. Austin, or any of the other handful of RBs, with a big play or two and we would not care about Mason today.
sure, except that of the 4 guys who carried the ball, he was the only one to not look completely useless against a top tier DEF

in fact, he looked great
Cunningham look fine on a TD. T. Austin is at 11.4 yards a clip for his career. It's an uphill battle for all of them.
cunningham looked fine on a 1yd carry?

Austin looked like crap yesterday... and he is NOT a running back.
It was dramatic lol. Cunningham is the best of the bunch to me so I won't mention him for the sake of being objective.Really? Austin looked fine. I'm just saying he is a factor in the run game as well. They seem committed to getting him involved in the game. We know he's a threat to take any touch to the house. Let's not ack like he's some fatass plotter too.
I think Austin's presence actually helps the traditional running game. Teams will have to respect the jet/fly sweep which will loosen up the box.

 
I considered dropping Stacy for him but didn't pull the trigger. Somebody got him for at FAAB of 5%.

I understand the upside (he's probably the best fantasy back in St. Louis going forward) but it's clear they still don't trust him in pass pro. I think between him, Stacy, and Cunningham it's going to be a disgusting quandry at RB on a bad team going against several good run defenses. I'll pray Stacy turns it around and look to upgrade elsewhere I guess.

 
I'm acquiring Stacy wherever possible and I strongly encourage you to do the same. He remains the best value on the entire board and has currently settled in the predraft rb 15-20 range. 300+ carries is a certainty and this Rams team is built to RUN. Don't over think this.
I'm sure some people probably said the same about lunchpail white in the summer of '08 after his 1100/7 on 300 carries in '07.

edit: that made me want to look up his 2008 player spotlight thread

most had him down as a lock for 280-300 carries, while he finished the year at 200.
Don't see Mason stealing much time from Stacy outside of injury.
This thread is funny. There is no evidence that even remotely points to Mason climbing over Cunningham AND Stacy. And I like Mason but sometimes you just have to trust what you see, and I see a team that is pretty comfortable with their starting rb.
sounds just like lendale white owners aug, '08
and so it begins............................

 
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Alot of people seem to think because Mason is much more talented than Stacy, i don't see it.

He's a good back but i don't see a special back in there.
That's because you own Stacy.

I agree with Brewtown ... as usual people are over thinking the situation.

If Fantasy Football did not exist there would be nothing to discuss here .... 90% of us would all agree that Mason is more talented then Stacy.

Stacy was a 5th round pick with limited talent. He ended up in a perfect situation but still only put up OK numbers.

Tre Mason would have been a 1st or 2nd round talent if RBs had not been so devalued ... put him in the same situation that Stacy was in last year and you will see some excellent all around #s
I disagree with most everything you said here and I think Mason is the best back in this years' class. That is because I think Stacy was the best back in last years' class and Mason would not have had any better numbers. Given the circumstances, I think Stacy performance was impressive. If Bradford starts as he did last year, Stacy's job will be that much easier. The Rams have added Britt, and Givens was non-existent without Bradley, and Austin is a year wiser. I think Stacy is a top 15 lock with top 5 potential.
sry, buddy

 
Great time to sell high if you've got him IMO. I see this as RBBC, best case scenario, with Mason being more of a situational guy. Stacy/Cunningham will still be TD vulture and short down backs.

 
Just went back and watched Mason's touches from MNF on NFL Rewind ..MAN, he looks GOOD.

At 5'8 200, can he carry a significant load? Seems like he's build in the MJD mold and it was fun to watch him repeatedly push defenders. Cunningham and Stacy don't blow me away so it won't be surprising to see Mason start getting more of a role (outside of pass pro).
I drafted Stacy and just dropped him for Mason. Stacy looks pathetic with the ball in his hands.....great blocker, but nothing more. Mason seems to have a real strong burst, and playmaking abilities. I don't think he is going to be the bellcow, but I believe with 10-12 touches per game, he can be a shot in the arm to your fantasy squad.

 
Great time to sell high if you've got him IMO. I see this as RBBC, best case scenario, with Mason being more of a situational guy. Stacy/Cunningham will still be TD vulture and short down backs.
not sure how much you can sell a bubble waiver wire guy for.

 
Was surprised he was available in my keeper league, snagged him last night off waivers. We keep 2 Vets and 1 Rookie each year.

So for me while it'd be great to get production from him this year, I'm just looking for signs that he can be the Rams RB of the future.

 
Had stacy as my keeper from last season...grabbed Cunningham as his handcuff...last night i dropped stacy and have mason handcuffed to cunningham...stacy will play himself right outa the picture soon

 
superior talent,and possibly the only thing to spare Fisher's job at the end of the year, is for Mason to become a top tier RB the remainder of the season, and get this offense headed in the right direction..

it's evident they need a running game in the worst way,and they've finally found it in Mason...it's time to pound him at opposing defenses..
Fisher lost his starting QB and the schedule is brutal, yet they are still being competitive in there losses (except the horrific opener). The talent on the defense is there, but takes time to put together. Firing Fisher now would be a terrible decision.
Yeah, I think Fisher is safe. Shotty should be gone though.
shotty is fine. Gregg Williams is terrible...terrible hire by fish....

Last night collapse doesn't bode well fo him either
<_<

 
Had stacy as my keeper from last season...grabbed Cunningham as his handcuff...last night i dropped stacy and have mason handcuffed to cunningham...stacy will play himself right outa the picture soon
Why not pick them all up and wait until one emerges as "the guy"?

 
Had stacy as my keeper from last season...grabbed Cunningham as his handcuff...last night i dropped stacy and have mason handcuffed to cunningham...stacy will play himself right outa the picture soon
Why not pick them all up and wait until one emerges as "the guy"?
Seriously. That seems like a really dumb, knee-jerk reaction. I've got all three in a couple leagues with large benches (didn't draft them all, though). Personally, I still like Stacy the best, but feel like he's getting the worst play calls. Always very predictable runs between the tackles against stacked boxes. I watched all five runs by Mason and nothing really special to see there from that small sample size. On his long run, he wasn't even touched for 12+ yards. It's not like he had to make someone miss, either. Just followed the hole which was almost straight ahead. That being said, Stacy is sticking a little too strictly to the play. He had at least one where he could've gone outside instead of following his blocker that would've been a nice gain.

 
Successful waiver run....let's roll fellas.

100 and 2 this week?
haha...against a tough opponent I'm hoping for 10 carries for 50ish yards type of line. Just looking for steady touch growth and outperforming the other two in the rotation.

 
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I have Crow, Hill and Randle on my bench, but I'm most excited about Mason. Might wear off, but MAN did he look good last week in limited work.

 
When we've had successful RB's recently who were picked in Mason's (75) draft range (Charles - 73, Murray - 71, Ridley - 73, Greene - 65) it shouldn't that strange to think Mason could be the starter at some point in the future.

Since Charles in 2008, there have only been two RB's in that range who didn't pan out - Glen Coffee (74), who quit after his rookie year saying God told him to and Ronnie Hillman (67).
This is laughable. Cherry picking recent success in that range means nothing unless you honestly believe a strong correlation exists between that range and NFL success (hint: it doesn't). Guys drafted much higher than those picks ended up busts. It is pure coincidence that those 3rd round guys panned out. Here's a comprehensive list of guys drafted in the third round or higher since 2010:

2010

Spiller (9) - 1 top 24 season (#7)

Mathews (12) - 2 top 24 seasons (#7 and #12)

Best (30)

McCluster (36)

Gerhart (51)

Tate (58)

Hardesty (59)

2011

Ingram (28)

R.Williams (38)

Vereen (56)

Leshoure (57) - 1 top 24 season (#20)

D.Thomas (62)

Murray (71) - 1 top 24 season (#8)

Ridley (73) - 1 top 24 season (#10)

A.Green (96)

2012

Richardson (3)

Martin (31) - 1 top 24 season (#3)

Wilson (32)

Pead (50)

L.James (61)

Hillman (67)

Pierce (84)

2013

Bernard (37) (#16)

Bell (48) (#15)

Ball (58)

Lacy (61) (#7)

Michael (62)

K.Davis (96)

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Stacy (160) (#18)

TL;DR - Stacy has likely already had more top 24 seasons than Mason will have.

Mason could be a good RB, but if you are betting on him, you are betting on some long odds. If I had Mason, I'd do what I could to acquire Stacy. If I had Stacy, I'd acquire Mason if the price is right, but there's at least a 75% chance he's nothing more than an injury handcuff at best. Would not be shocked to see Cunningham have a better career than Mason. Just being realistic. Go back farther than 2010 if you want. The odds of a 3rd rounder finding NFL success aren't as good as recent history suggests.
Still sticking by the bolded?

 
Successful waiver run....let's roll fellas.

100 and 2 this week?
haha...against a tough opponent I'm hoping for 10 carries for 50ish yards type of line. Just looking for steady touch growth and outperforming the other two in the rotation.
Based on my luck with rbs this year, I'll predict a robust 4 for 14.
 
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Had stacy as my keeper from last season...grabbed Cunningham as his handcuff...last night i dropped stacy and have mason handcuffed to cunningham...stacy will play himself right outa the picture soon
Why not pick them all up and wait until one emerges as "the guy"?
Seriously. That seems like a really dumb, knee-jerk reaction. I've got all three in a couple leagues with large benches (didn't draft them all, though). Personally, I still like Stacy the best, but feel like he's getting the worst play calls. Always very predictable runs between the tackles against stacked boxes. I watched all five runs by Mason and nothing really special to see there from that small sample size. On his long run, he wasn't even touched for 12+ yards. It's not like he had to make someone miss, either. Just followed the hole which was almost straight ahead. That being said, Stacy is sticking a little too strictly to the play. He had at least one where he could've gone outside instead of following his blocker that would've been a nice gain.
i wish i had the room for all 3 but i dont ,and Stacy looks the worst of the 3. He isnt playing with the same fire he had last season . Im confident that Cunningham will be getting more touches going forward and eventually Mason will be used quite a bit. Stacy just needs to get his head out of his ### and play like he means it. He`s still sitting on waivers as of today,nobody wants him.

 
Who has more upside Randell of the cowboys or Mason?
I have both, and it's Mason IMO. He has the potential to earn the majority of carries by the later part of the season without injury to the other RBs around him. Randle will require an injury to Murray and even then many predict he will get the early down work, but still be sharing with Dunbar in some capacity. If you could be certain of a Murray injury I would say Randle, but since we can not I would go Mason.

 
Who has more upside Randell of the cowboys or Mason?
I think it depends on your roster. Randell only has a chance to be a starter if Murray gets hurt while Mason's situation is more fluid. If Murray gets hurt it's definitely Randell but what are the chances of that. To me, you only take a Randell if you are pretty set at RB but looking for a lottery ticket while you take a Mason if your looking for a starter to emerge.

 
BustedKnuckles said:
FF Ninja said:
ShaHBucks said:
BustedKnuckles said:
Had stacy as my keeper from last season...grabbed Cunningham as his handcuff...last night i dropped stacy and have mason handcuffed to cunningham...stacy will play himself right outa the picture soon
Why not pick them all up and wait until one emerges as "the guy"?
Seriously. That seems like a really dumb, knee-jerk reaction. I've got all three in a couple leagues with large benches (didn't draft them all, though). Personally, I still like Stacy the best, but feel like he's getting the worst play calls. Always very predictable runs between the tackles against stacked boxes. I watched all five runs by Mason and nothing really special to see there from that small sample size. On his long run, he wasn't even touched for 12+ yards. It's not like he had to make someone miss, either. Just followed the hole which was almost straight ahead. That being said, Stacy is sticking a little too strictly to the play. He had at least one where he could've gone outside instead of following his blocker that would've been a nice gain.
i wish i had the room for all 3 but i dont ,and Stacy looks the worst of the 3. He isnt playing with the same fire he had last season . Im confident that Cunningham will be getting more touches going forward and eventually Mason will be used quite a bit. Stacy just needs to get his head out of his ### and play like he means it. He`s still sitting on waivers as of today,nobody wants him.
Haha, are you basing this on 5 carries from Mason? You've got most of a season of Stacy forcing missed tackles and getting YAC and you are going to get excited about 1 well blocked run from Mason?? Over reaction. Knowing this is Jeff Fisher, I am not really confident about anyone at this point, but I'm sure not dropping Stacy before Mason in redraft this year after Mason got blown up in pass pro.

 
FF Ninja said:
ShaHBucks said:
BustedKnuckles said:
Had stacy as my keeper from last season...grabbed Cunningham as his handcuff...last night i dropped stacy and have mason handcuffed to cunningham...stacy will play himself right outa the picture soon
Why not pick them all up and wait until one emerges as "the guy"?
Seriously. That seems like a really dumb, knee-jerk reaction. I've got all three in a couple leagues with large benches (didn't draft them all, though). Personally, I still like Stacy the best, but feel like he's getting the worst play calls. Always very predictable runs between the tackles against stacked boxes. I watched all five runs by Mason and nothing really special to see there from that small sample size. On his long run, he wasn't even touched for 12+ yards. It's not like he had to make someone miss, either. Just followed the hole which was almost straight ahead. That being said, Stacy is sticking a little too strictly to the play. He had at least one where he could've gone outside instead of following his blocker that would've been a nice gain.
sorry but he's got a really good burst and Stacy does not and when you have a burst you can exploit holes, even if they are there for a moment. I'm sure that's not the only hole that was opened the entire year if it was Mason was incredibly lucky that they opened the only decent hole the entire year on his first career carry and had a longer run than Stacy/Cunningham had all year.

There's a reason why Mason was activated and if they were getting the job done then Mason likely still be inactive. Both Stacy and Cunningham are running for a pedestrian 3.9 ypc so the opportunity for someone to improve the run game is there which is likely why he's in the lineup. I don't think they are going to hand the keys over to him but he'll get his chances...the key is what he does with them.

 
Would you guys drop one of Bolden/Gray to pick up Mason?
Personally I prefer Mason over both. I think the Pats will be a heavy dose of Vereen and then a committee/hot hand approach with Bolden, Gray and White. Even if you luck out and pick the right one, what are the chances that he will be the every week starter and be reliable?

That being said, I'm wrong about the Patriots backfield 100% of the time.

 
I picked up Mason, $4 in a $100 FAAB league. Surprised to be the only one to bid. This was in a 14 team league with a pretty bare waiver wire for running backs.


For comparison, the other running backs this week that were picked up were:

Bernard Pierce and Knile Davis for $10
Chris Johnson for $11

(all previously dropped last week)
 
Talk me into dropping D.Martin for him
Wow. I've been thinking about this all day.
Love Mason. LOVE

But in redraft, you just cant be certain how long it takes him to take the lead... could bee soon, might not. I projected week 6, but was obv wrong.. still think he takes over soon, but upcoming matches are BRUTAL.

in dynasty he's a BUYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY... redraft, hes a buy

 
Talk me into dropping D.Martin for him
Wow. I've been thinking about this all day.
Love Mason. LOVE

But in redraft, you just cant be certain how long it takes him to take the lead... could bee soon, might not. I projected week 6, but was obv wrong.. still think he takes over soon, but upcoming matches are BRUTAL.

in dynasty he's a BUYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY... redraft, hes a buy
I'm willing to wait or exchange him for a different lotto ticket if he doesn't work out. I feel Sims will be leading some sort of committee in Tampa when he's healthy. It feels good to get rid of dead weight off my team.

 

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