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Banger said:
FF Ninja said:
ShaHBucks said:
BustedKnuckles said:
Had stacy as my keeper from last season...grabbed Cunningham as his handcuff...last night i dropped stacy and have mason handcuffed to cunningham...stacy will play himself right outa the picture soon
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Why not pick them all up and wait until one emerges as "the guy"?
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Seriously. That seems like a really dumb, knee-jerk reaction. I've got all three in a couple leagues with large benches (didn't draft them all, though). Personally, I still like Stacy the best, but feel like he's getting the worst play calls. Always very predictable runs between the tackles against stacked boxes. I watched all five runs by Mason and nothing really special to see there from that small sample size. On his long run, he wasn't even touched for 12+ yards. It's not like he had to make someone miss, either. Just followed the hole which was almost straight ahead. That being said, Stacy is sticking a little too strictly to the play. He had at least one where he could've gone outside instead of following his blocker that would've been a nice gain.
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sorry but he's got a really good burst and Stacy does not and when you have a burst you can exploit holes, even if they are there for a moment. I'm sure that's not the only hole that was opened the entire year if it was Mason was incredibly lucky that they opened the only decent hole the entire year on his first career carry and had a longer run than Stacy/Cunningham had all year.

There's a reason why Mason was activated and if they were getting the job done then Mason likely still be inactive. Both Stacy and Cunningham are running for a pedestrian 3.9 ypc so the opportunity for someone to improve the run game is there which is likely why he's in the lineup. I don't think they are going to hand the keys over to him but he'll get his chances...the key is what he does with them.
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Sorry, but you're just seeing what you want to see. Confirmation bias is a b****. Turns out Stacy and Mason have nearly identical agility scores. It's funny... if we didn't have actual numbers for these guys, people in here would be swearing that Mason runs a 4.3 40 while Stacy runs a 4.7. Facts are not the hype monger's friend.

 
FF Ninja said:
Banger said:
FF Ninja said:
ShaHBucks said:
BustedKnuckles said:
Had stacy as my keeper from last season...grabbed Cunningham as his handcuff...last night i dropped stacy and have mason handcuffed to cunningham...stacy will play himself right outa the picture soon
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Why not pick them all up and wait until one emerges as "the guy"?
Click to expand...
Seriously. That seems like a really dumb, knee-jerk reaction. I've got all three in a couple leagues with large benches (didn't draft them all, though). Personally, I still like Stacy the best, but feel like he's getting the worst play calls. Always very predictable runs between the tackles against stacked boxes. I watched all five runs by Mason and nothing really special to see there from that small sample size. On his long run, he wasn't even touched for 12+ yards. It's not like he had to make someone miss, either. Just followed the hole which was almost straight ahead. That being said, Stacy is sticking a little too strictly to the play. He had at least one where he could've gone outside instead of following his blocker that would've been a nice gain.
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sorry but he's got a really good burst and Stacy does not and when you have a burst you can exploit holes, even if they are there for a moment. I'm sure that's not the only hole that was opened the entire year if it was Mason was incredibly lucky that they opened the only decent hole the entire year on his first career carry and had a longer run than Stacy/Cunningham had all year.

There's a reason why Mason was activated and if they were getting the job done then Mason likely still be inactive. Both Stacy and Cunningham are running for a pedestrian 3.9 ypc so the opportunity for someone to improve the run game is there which is likely why he's in the lineup. I don't think they are going to hand the keys over to him but he'll get his chances...the key is what he does with them.

wfending Stacy before this season started in this thread
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Sorry, but you're just seeing what you want to see. Confirmation bias is a b****. Turns out Stacy and Mason have nearly identical agility scores. It's funny... if we didn't have actual numbers for these guys, people in here would be swearing that Mason runs a 4.3 40 while Stacy runs a 4.7. Facts are not the hype monger's friend.
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Look....i was supporting Stacy in this thread before the season started....but the facts are right in front of your eyes...for whatever reason he doesnt have it this year...call it a sophomore slump if need be ....D.Martin looked like the next great thing as a rookie...this season he cant do crap...it happens

 
it was at this time ,last season, that Stacy ascended to the lead RB role in St Louis..it's happening again,this time with Mason taking over..

the MAIN reason they're going to stick with him is because Jeff Fisher,one of the highest paid coaches in the NFL, is likely to get fired at season's end.perhaps even GM Les Snead ..Fisher likely realizes this and is going all-in to show signs of improvement, that they're moving in the right direction without their starting QB Bradford (but,holding onto Bradford in the first place was a huge mistake,so they both should be fired for anyways).

they're just going to have to get Mason more involved..

 
FF Ninja said:
Banger said:
FF Ninja said:
ShaHBucks said:
BustedKnuckles said:
Had stacy as my keeper from last season...grabbed Cunningham as his handcuff...last night i dropped stacy and have mason handcuffed to cunningham...stacy will play himself right outa the picture soon
Click to expand...
Why not pick them all up and wait until one emerges as "the guy"?
Click to expand...
Seriously. That seems like a really dumb, knee-jerk reaction. I've got all three in a couple leagues with large benches (didn't draft them all, though). Personally, I still like Stacy the best, but feel like he's getting the worst play calls. Always very predictable runs between the tackles against stacked boxes. I watched all five runs by Mason and nothing really special to see there from that small sample size. On his long run, he wasn't even touched for 12+ yards. It's not like he had to make someone miss, either. Just followed the hole which was almost straight ahead. That being said, Stacy is sticking a little too strictly to the play. He had at least one where he could've gone outside instead of following his blocker that would've been a nice gain.
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sorry but he's got a really good burst and Stacy does not and when you have a burst you can exploit holes, even if they are there for a moment. I'm sure that's not the only hole that was opened the entire year if it was Mason was incredibly lucky that they opened the only decent hole the entire year on his first career carry and had a longer run than Stacy/Cunningham had all year.

There's a reason why Mason was activated and if they were getting the job done then Mason likely still be inactive. Both Stacy and Cunningham are running for a pedestrian 3.9 ypc so the opportunity for someone to improve the run game is there which is likely why he's in the lineup. I don't think they are going to hand the keys over to him but he'll get his chances...the key is what he does with them.
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Sorry, but you're just seeing what you want to see. Confirmation bias is a b****. Turns out Stacy and Mason have nearly identical agility scores. It's funny... if we didn't have actual numbers for these guys, people in here would be swearing that Mason runs a 4.3 40 while Stacy runs a 4.7. Facts are not the hype monger's friend.
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sorry but what I'm seeing is one guy who had the job to himself when the season began getting his snaps and touches getting cut down week by week. Now, he has two guys in the mix competing for his touches, the later being the rookie they drafted in the 3rd round this year knowing they had Stacy and Cunningham.

I'm as objective as could be in this scenario...I watched this situation all offseason...heard rumblings of Cunningham running better all camp and avoided the situation and drafted neither Stacy or Cunningham....each week neither guy is really doing anything to distinguish themselves and then a guy steps in and looks better than either guy through the prior 5 games. Then I go out and pick that player up based on the trend and potential opportunity due to the others lack of production. Pretty simple really....I could care less about cone times, high jump scores and all that stuff...if you can't see with your eyes and hear everyone that watched the game talked about the better burst shown by Mason on his few touches than I don't know what to say. The fact is that Stacy is losing his job week by week.

 
ShaHBucks said:
BustedKnuckles said:
Had stacy as my keeper from last season...grabbed Cunningham as his handcuff...last night i dropped stacy and have mason handcuffed to cunningham...stacy will play himself right outa the picture soon
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Why not pick them all up and wait until one emerges as "the guy"?
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Tanner9919 said:
it was at this time ,last season, that Stacy ascended to the lead RB role in St Louis..it's happening again,this time with Mason taking over..

the MAIN reason they're going to stick with him is because Jeff Fisher,one of the highest paid coaches in the NFL, is likely to get fired at season's end.perhaps even GM Les Snead ..Fisher likely realizes this and is going all-in to show signs of improvement, that they're moving in the right direction without their starting QB Bradford (but,holding onto Bradford in the first place was a huge mistake,so they both should be fired for anyways).

they're just going to have to get Mason more involved..
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Last year it was actually four RBs in the mix. Fisher put out all kinds of noises with contradictory implications in the game leading up to when Stacy took over. Seattle is probably not the game for Fisher to come out looking like a coaching genius for plugging in the new star RB though. (OTOH if they did manage to beat them it would be a job and season saver perhaps. Naaahhhh.).

 
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Banger said:
sorry but what I'm seeing is one guy who had the job to himself when the season began getting his snaps and touches getting cut down week by week. Now, he has two guys in the mix competing for his touches, the later being the rookie they drafted in the 3rd round this year knowing they had Stacy and Cunningham.

I'm as objective as could be in this scenario...I watched this situation all offseason...heard rumblings of Cunningham running better all camp and avoided the situation and drafted neither Stacy or Cunningham....each week neither guy is really doing anything to distinguish themselves and then a guy steps in and looks better than either guy through the prior 5 games. Then I go out and pick that player up based on the trend and potential opportunity due to the others lack of production. Pretty simple really....I could care less about cone times, high jump scores and all that stuff...if you can't see with your eyes and hear everyone that watched the game talked about the better burst shown by Mason on his few touches than I don't know what to say. The fact is that Stacy is losing his job week by week.
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:lol: :doh:

Looked better than either guy on one well blocked play. Pretty sure anybody would've looked good running untouched, full speed for 12 yards into... his own teammate.

"everyone that watched the game talked about the better burst shown by Mason" Haha, by "everyone" do you mean hopeful, optimistic Mason owners?? Hint: yes, you do, even if you don't know it.

I've got all 3 guys so I'll be happy if any one of them emerges and gets rid of this painful RBBC, but you Mason homers are some silly fools. You are the broken clock. There isn't anything definitive that shows Mason will be good or great, but there is a small chance that you'll be right and I'm sure there will be lots of chest thumping if that occurs to offset all the years of blind optimism gone awry on other hopeful prospects that didn't pan out. It'll benefit me if true in the case of Mason, but it's hilarious to listen to in the meantime.

If you want to see someone actually making people miss and picking up some YAC, here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oplKg5Brh_M

The music is awful. Around 1:05 is probably his most impressive run. Until I see something like that out of Mason, I will continue to believe Stacy is the better NFL prospect. It's going to take more than one well blocked run to convince me otherwise.

 
FF Ninja said:
Banger said:
sorry but what I'm seeing is one guy who had the job to himself when the season began getting his snaps and touches getting cut down week by week. Now, he has two guys in the mix competing for his touches, the later being the rookie they drafted in the 3rd round this year knowing they had Stacy and Cunningham.

I'm as objective as could be in this scenario...I watched this situation all offseason...heard rumblings of Cunningham running better all camp and avoided the situation and drafted neither Stacy or Cunningham....each week neither guy is really doing anything to distinguish themselves and then a guy steps in and looks better than either guy through the prior 5 games. Then I go out and pick that player up based on the trend and potential opportunity due to the others lack of production. Pretty simple really....I could care less about cone times, high jump scores and all that stuff...if you can't see with your eyes and hear everyone that watched the game talked about the better burst shown by Mason on his few touches than I don't know what to say. The fact is that Stacy is losing his job week by week.
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:lol: :doh:

Looked better than either guy on one well blocked play. Pretty sure anybody would've looked good running untouched, full speed for 12 yards into... his own teammate.

"everyone that watched the game talked about the better burst shown by Mason" Haha, by "everyone" do you mean hopeful, optimistic Mason owners?? Hint: yes, you do, even if you don't know it.

I've got all 3 guys so I'll be happy if any one of them emerges and gets rid of this painful RBBC, but you Mason homers are some silly fools. You are the broken clock. There isn't anything definitive that shows Mason will be good or great, but there is a small chance that you'll be right and I'm sure there will be lots of chest thumping if that occurs to offset all the years of blind optimism gone awry on other hopeful prospects that didn't pan out. It'll benefit me if true in the case of Mason, but it's hilarious to listen to in the meantime.

If you want to see someone actually making people miss and picking up some YAC, here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oplKg5Brh_M

The music is awful. Around 1:05 is probably his most impressive run. Until I see something like that out of Mason, I will continue to believe Stacy is the better NFL prospect. It's going to take more than one well blocked run to convince me otherwise.
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you can think what you think and I'll think what I think but both opinions are completely meaningless. The only one that matters is Fisher and how he's going to use them and the trend for Stacy isn't going the right way.

Not sure why you need to call me or others fools...completely unnecessary and not sure why you are so angry. If Mason works out, great, if he doesn't it's on to the next guy.

 
That first catch and run was nice. He destroyed that guy and got the first down. The one big run wasn't his only flash Ninja.

 
FF Ninja said:
:lol: :doh:

Looked better than either guy on one well blocked play. Pretty sure anybody would've looked good running untouched, full speed for 12 yards into... his own teammate.

"everyone that watched the game talked about the better burst shown by Mason" Haha, by "everyone" do you mean hopeful, optimistic Mason owners?? Hint: yes, you do, even if you don't know it.

I've got all 3 guys so I'll be happy if any one of them emerges and gets rid of this painful RBBC, but you Mason homers are some silly fools. You are the broken clock. There isn't anything definitive that shows Mason will be good or great, but there is a small chance that you'll be right and I'm sure there will be lots of chest thumping if that occurs to offset all the years of blind optimism gone awry on other hopeful prospects that didn't pan out. It'll benefit me if true in the case of Mason, but it's hilarious to listen to in the meantime.

If you want to see someone actually making people miss and picking up some YAC, here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oplKg5Brh_M

The music is awful. Around 1:05 is probably his most impressive run. Until I see something like that out of Mason, I will continue to believe Stacy is the better NFL prospect. It's going to take more than one well blocked run to convince me otherwise.
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Stacy isn't a bum but neither is Mason. In the first carry of his career he has the longest run by a Rams RB this year.

You talk about the 'well blocked 24 yard run' but he averaged 4.0 YPC on his other four runs and caught his only target for 12 yards.

It looks like RBBC to me, which is all I said in the preseason when people thought Stacy was going to put up stud numbers.

 
FF Ninja said:
Banger said:
FF Ninja said:
ShaHBucks said:
BustedKnuckles said:
Had stacy as my keeper from last season...grabbed Cunningham as his handcuff...last night i dropped stacy and have mason handcuffed to cunningham...stacy will play himself right outa the picture soon
Click to expand...
Why not pick them all up and wait until one emerges as "the guy"?
Click to expand...
Seriously. That seems like a really dumb, knee-jerk reaction. I've got all three in a couple leagues with large benches (didn't draft them all, though). Personally, I still like Stacy the best, but feel like he's getting the worst play calls. Always very predictable runs between the tackles against stacked boxes. I watched all five runs by Mason and nothing really special to see there from that small sample size. On his long run, he wasn't even touched for 12+ yards. It's not like he had to make someone miss, either. Just followed the hole which was almost straight ahead. That being said, Stacy is sticking a little too strictly to the play. He had at least one where he could've gone outside instead of following his blocker that would've been a nice gain.
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sorry but he's got a really good burst and Stacy does not and when you have a burst you can exploit holes, even if they are there for a moment. I'm sure that's not the only hole that was opened the entire year if it was Mason was incredibly lucky that they opened the only decent hole the entire year on his first career carry and had a longer run than Stacy/Cunningham had all year.

There's a reason why Mason was activated and if they were getting the job done then Mason likely still be inactive. Both Stacy and Cunningham are running for a pedestrian 3.9 ypc so the opportunity for someone to improve the run game is there which is likely why he's in the lineup. I don't think they are going to hand the keys over to him but he'll get his chances...the key is what he does with them.
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Sorry, but you're just seeing what you want to see. Confirmation bias is a b****. Turns out Stacy and Mason have nearly identical agility scores. It's funny... if we didn't have actual numbers for these guys, people in here would be swearing that Mason runs a 4.3 40 while Stacy runs a 4.7. Facts are not the hype monger's friend.
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hello?

 
I own him in 2 dynasty leagues and 1 redraft and I'm regretting not grabbing him in more of my redraft leagues this past week.

 
Looks like they still don't trust him fully in passing downs like the last redzone opportunity, but it's clear he's the best running back on the team.

 
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