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Trump Booed In Dallas For Admitting To Getting Booster Vaccine Shot (1 Viewer)

To be fair, the story from today was from an event elsewhere.  The original incident in Alabama was last August I believe.  The area he was in for that event was the reddest of red.  

 
To be fair, the story from today was from an event elsewhere.  The original incident in Alabama was last August I believe.  The area he was in for that event was the reddest of red.  


Oh. Where was it today? I'll link to the proper article and edit if needed. 

 
I don’t compliment Donald Trump very often. But kudos to both him and Bill O Reilly for admitting they got the boosters and telling their audience to get them too. 
 

 
I don’t compliment Donald Trump very often. But kudos to both him and Bill O Reilly for admitting they got the boosters and telling their audience to get them too. 
 
He could have saved so many lives if he'd used his natural bully pulpit that he has with his supporters to have done it earlier. I still can't believe the guy responsible for Fast Track wasn't hogging credit, telling everybody to get vaccinated. 

I would have. 

And notice how it's about him, always. He said if it didn't work, the audience would be the first to know. Like he would be the authority on it from anecdotal experience. 

 
He could have saved so many lives if he'd used his natural bully pulpit that he has with his supporters to have done it earlier. I still can't believe the guy responsible for Fast Track wasn't hogging credit, telling everybody to get vaccinated. 

I would have. 

And notice how it's about him, always. He said if it didn't work, the audience would be the first to know. Like he would be the authority on it from anecdotal experience. 
The vaccine pitted two sides of Trump's narcissism against each other. On one side, there was the desire to take credit for anything and everything. And on the other side, there was the fear of being rejected by his followers.

Given the choice between those two sides, he chose the latter. He let fear control him. And it proved to be a strategic mistake.

If he had chosen to pursue the other route -- the "It's all about him" route -- he very possibly would still be president right now.

 
The vaccine pitted two sides of Trump's narcissism against each other. On one side, there was the desire to take credit for anything and everything. And on the other side, there was the fear of being rejected by his followers.

Given the choice between those two sides, he chose the latter. He let fear control him. And it proved to be a strategic mistake.

If he had chosen to pursue the other route -- the "It's all about him" route -- he very possibly would still be president right now.


The biggest issue is he would have had to admit he was wrong.  That this wasn't a hoax made up by the media and needed to be taken seriously.

 I've noticed more and more people in the last 5-6 years that also will never admit they are wrong about anything.  I think they believe it makes them appear strong when IMO,  it's the exact opposite.  Believe me, I make my fair share of mistakes and always quickly own up to them.  My lady, friends, have told me many times it's something they appreciate about me.

There are obviously rabid Trump supporters that would/will vote for him no matter what.  That's not everyone that generally votes R though and he lost a small percentage of those voters and was enough to defeat him.  He could have been the savior and guarantee he would still be POTUS if he didn't take the route he took. 

The saddest part of course is the loss of life.  I miss the loved ones I lost. I worry every day about the others that were infected and still suffering.  I worry about my loved ones with cancer and what could happen to them if they get it.  I wish, like after 9/11, it was something that could have brought us together as a nation.  Something we so badly need.

ETA

I agree with @timschochet that  I'm glad they brought it up.  I hope that it convinces  some folks to get vaccinated.

 
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He could have saved so many lives if he'd used his natural bully pulpit that he has with his supporters to have done it earlier. I still can't believe the guy responsible for Fast Track wasn't hogging credit, telling everybody to get vaccinated. 

I would have. 

And notice how it's about him, always. He said if it didn't work, the audience would be the first to know. Like he would be the authority on it from anecdotal experience. 
So I thought he was always pro vaccine just not pro mandate?

 
So I thought he was always pro vaccine just not pro mandate?
He is repeatedly on record as being pro-vaccine, yes. But with his reach and his sway, he could have come right out for them, swinging, and a lot more people would be vaccinated today. If he had gone on Fox News, made the circuit, put it front and center like the carnival barker he can be, this nation would have been better off. 

That he didn't tout his accomplishment once it was complete was stunning, because...well...him, and it really is too bad he didn't because he could have done what Adam Smith argued self-interest did in the economic realm. By pursuing his own self-interest in his legacy -- be it loudly, crassly, however he wanted to do it, everybody would have been better off because of it. 

It's one of the more disappointing things the Donald did, at least to me. He came up with Fast Track and gambled on purchasing tons of vaccines that may or may not have worked for all he knew, but he had a faith in American ingenuity and resolve. And then, for some reason, he retreated. 

He'd be President in 2024 if he had done all those things, too, so it's completely gobsmacking to me why he didn't. 

 
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I don’t compliment Donald Trump very often. But kudos to both him and Bill O Reilly for admitting they got the boosters and telling their audience to get them too. 
 
Agreed, with Biden’s inability to lead it’s good to see these guys helping do his job for him for the greater good. Country before party. 

 
And yes, kudos to him for getting it and admitting it to a hostile audience. 

But, damn, why not when they were rolling these out? Get front and center. 

 
Agreed, with Biden’s inability to lead it’s good to see these guys helping do his job for him for the greater good. Country before party. 
On vaccination hesitancy, it's hard to criticize the Biden administration effort. 

GOP vaccine resistance confronting Biden has deep roots

I commend Trump in this case for doing the right thing now, and he was pro-vaccine before the election, contrary to what Rachel Madfow said. But Fauci Says He Was ‘Not Aware’ Trump Got Vaccinated in January: ‘Lost Opportunity’ He Didn’t Do It Publicly

DeSantis also didn't get vaxxed publicly and his black surgeon general won't even say if he's been vaxxed.  

 
This is one of the biggest who cares news stories of the year.  The fact that it got this much coverage just shows how stupid our media is 

 
On vaccination hesitancy, it's hard to criticize the Biden administration effort

GOP vaccine resistance confronting Biden has deep roots

I commend Trump in this case for doing the right thing now, and he was pro-vaccine before the election, contrary to what Rachel Madfow said. But Fauci Says He Was ‘Not Aware’ Trump Got Vaccinated in January: ‘Lost Opportunity’ He Didn’t Do It Publicly

DeSantis also didn't get vaxxed publicly and his black surgeon general won't even say if he's been vaxxed.  
Sorry had to stop at this completely biased statement. Handling Covid is all this guy was elected for besides not being Trump and he’s done a horrendous job with it. 

 
He is repeatedly on record as being pro-vaccine, yes. But with his reach and his sway, he could have come right out for them, swinging, and a lot more people would be vaccinated today. If he had gone on Fox News, made the circuit, put it front and center like the carnival barker he can be, this nation would have been better off. 

That he didn't tout his accomplishment once it was complete was stunning, because...well...him...and really too bad because he could have done what Adam Smith argued self-interest did in the economic realm. By pursuing his own self-interest in his legacy -- be it loudly, crassly, however he wanted to do it, everybody would have been better off because of it. 

It's one of the more disappointing things the Donald did, at least to me. He came up with Fast Track and gambled on purchasing tons of vaccines that may or may not have worked for all he knew, but he had a faith in American ingenuity and resolve. And then, for some reason, he retreated. 

He'd be President in 2024 if he had done all those things, too, so it's completely gobsmacking to me why he didn't. 
He’d be president if he touted the vaccines that became available after he lost the presidency?

 
The fact that the attendees booed him indicate what kind of people he appeals to (okay, i am sure not everyone booed)

 
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Sorry had to stop at this completely biased statement. Handling Covid is all this guy was elected for besides not being Trump and he’s done a horrendous job with it. 
My comment was specifically regarding vaccine hesitancy. What more could Biden have done? 

 
My comment was specifically regarding vaccine hesitancy. What more could Biden have done? 
I think you're going to be largely arguing with a group here (not necessarily GoBirds) that either promotes or turns a blind eye to vaccine hesitancy while at the same time wondering about the bottom line of vaccination rates and how those rates reflect on Biden as a leader, so asking that question, even innocently, won't do you much good here. 

 
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My comment was specifically regarding vaccine hesitancy. What more could Biden have done? 
I’m just saying this is exactly what the previous administration was crucified for that Biden was supposed to solve as he “brought the country together”. Don’t make excuses, hold him to the same standard is all I’m saying. 

 
I think you're going to be largely arguing with a group here (not necessarily GoBirds) that either promotes or turns a blind eye to vaccine hesitancy while at the same time wondering about the bottom line of vaccination rates and how those rates reflect on Biden as a leader, so asking that question, even innocently, won't do you much good here. 
:goodposting:

Though I will say, saying it's government's fault that government can't make "gubment ain't gunna make me du nuttin' " type people do something is one of the more entertaining positions to watch people take.  Biden's basically guilty of not forcing the horse to drink the water because, by law, he can't force the horse to drink the water.  It's almost as if those that demand "more" are willing to throw "rule of law" out the window.  I thought they were only willing to look the other way on that principle for certain people, but maybe they think it should be gone for good?  And, of course, the same would be true if Trump were still in office.  These goofs can only go so far.  At some point, responsibility shifts to the individual. 

 
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Okay, I don't want this to turn into a slap fight. I thought it was worthy of its own thread because Trump's base came out and booed him. That's awfully rare and shows how deep the vaccine hesitancy goes; how embedded it is in some people's minds. 

It's crazy, if you ask me. That was the main point I was making. That even his most ardent supporters will turn on him when it comes to vaccinations. That's rare earth for that to happen. 

 
And yes, kudos to him for getting it and admitting it to a hostile audience. 

But, damn, why not when they were rolling these out? Get front and center. 


Getting escorted to the door.  I can't stand Trump. but I find it interested the vaccine is ready news broke the week after the election.

I still find it interesting that the flat earthers took such a liking to Trump.  Politically Trump is likely left of Biden.  The thing is that it's never been about politics for Trump, it's about power.  He would embrace AOC like policies if it meant 4 years in power.

 
I know Lebron James would not admit if he did or did not get a vaccine for a long time but have not heard many other famous people say not to get it.
Not to get it or won’t say whether they got it?  Honestly, I haven’t heard a lot of either but very few of the former.  

 
Not to get it or won’t say whether they got it?  Honestly, I haven’t heard a lot of either but very few of the former.  


 Getting back to the OP Trump was the person who pushed hard and funded the vaccine and in typical Trump fashion bragged about it getting it done in record time.  So why would he not admit getting a booster? O`Reilly is in his 70s so he is at risk and should happily admit it.

 
 Getting back to the OP Trump was the person who pushed hard and funded the vaccine and in typical Trump fashion bragged about it getting it done in record time.  So why would he not admit getting a booster? O`Reilly is in his 70s so he is at risk and should happily admit it.
Seems obvious - a certain segment of their followers are anti-vaccine.  Unfortunately, our politics are such that admitting to anything, even something so obviously good, requires politicians to go through calculus to determine if it’s beneficial for them to do it.

 
Okay, I don't want this to turn into a slap fight. I thought it was worthy of its own thread because Trump's base came out and booed him. That's awfully rare and shows how deep the vaccine hesitancy goes; how embedded it is in some people's minds. 

It's crazy, if you ask me. That was the main point I was making. That even his most ardent supporters will turn on him when it comes to vaccinations. That's rare earth for that to happen. 
It sort of is, sort of isn't.  So, there's always "that group" that boos, but it's realistic to believe "that group" could be significantly smaller if he AND GOP leadership would have risen above the initial boos and stayed the course for a month or two beyond the election through initial rollout.  It's my belief the GOP has severely miscalculated the vocal minority that Trump stirred up and are terrified by that group.  Been talking with several around me (smack dab in the middle of Trump country of Central Florida) and I have yet to run into a single person who'd choose to vote for the Trump extreme over a more central conservative....not one.  Forget about it in local elections.  They aren't even competitive.  People don't want that garbage.  But the GOP remains convinced that they can't win without Trump's blessing.

 
Seems obvious - a certain segment of their followers are anti-vaccine.  Unfortunately, our politics are such that admitting to anything, even something so obviously good, requires politicians to go through calculus to determine if it’s beneficial for them to do it.


Very true, on the campaign trail Biden and Harris were not ready to get vaccinated if it was going to help Trump

 
Very true, on the campaign trail Biden and Harris were not ready to get vaccinated if it was going to help Trump
No chance they were not getting vaccinated no matter what they said.  Just like Trump.  Politicians are very good at looking after their own self-interests.

 
No chance they were not getting vaccinated no matter what they said.  Just like Trump.  Politicians are very good at looking after their own self-interests.


I agree, sad it was so politcal as it confused many people.

 
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I’m not sure if you read what I linked but yes I believe it did.
I'm going to take this snippet and respond:

The vaccine is political.  Trump was making it somewhat political by touting its success in development as tied to him, which I think is actually not unusual at all, in general whether it's because in presidents do this or specifically tied to operation warp speed or other actions.  So I don't think this on its own was particularly problematic.  Where it became problematic is that Biden and his administration made it very political by trying to neutralize that Trump advantage by casting vaccine doubt tied to Trump in the middle of a presidential election.  This made the vaccine very political.  They actually took a good thing and made it a political point of contention within this country, they couldn't just say "yah, we've made a ton of progress here and it's good news".
In my view, this is one of those black/white things that only becomes gray because of the arbitrary lines we decide to draw.  The entire event of the pandemic was political from day one vaccines included.  There was never a point where it wasn't political.  It became problematic at the very beginning.  It didn't start with vaccines.  That said, Biden didn't help with his absurd comments he's as complicit in the politics of this as Trump is.

However, I don't really see how any of this contributes to what we're seeing today with those refusing to get the vaccine.  If we are to believe the narrative as you outline and Biden's actions are primarily to blame, we'd also have to believe that the antivaxx crowd as nodding along with Biden;  that the GOP was agreeing with a Dem and following his lead.  What evidence do we have that any of that is true and what events changed us to current state that he's an incapable moron not doing enough to get shots in peoples' arms.  I don't see how both these things can be true honestly.  Seems like a rather large disconnect.

 
He could have saved so many lives if he'd used his natural bully pulpit that he has with his supporters to have done it earlier. I still can't believe the guy responsible for Fast Track wasn't hogging credit, telling everybody to get vaccinated. 

I would have. 

And notice how it's about him, always. He said if it didn't work, the audience would be the first to know. Like he would be the authority on it from anecdotal experience. 
Of course, and you're answering your own question here.

Once it was clear that Biden won the election and Trump was going to have to go into Stop the Steal mode, there was zero chance of him promoting the vaccines. Zero chance. Why, if you're Donald Trump, would you even consider for a second helping Joe Biden's presidency, helping him beat Covid? Donald Trump would literally rather the country be in chaos with people dying unnecessarily in an effort to undermine Biden. Why do you think Trump supporters are the least likely demographic to get the vaccine? Because they're not going to "help Biden". The evolution of this discussion has been so predictable it's absurd. Some posters in here are already like "Biden didn't solve Covid though". Yeah, you've got us all fooled there.  :rolleyes:

Frankly I'm just saying what everyone already knows. So the answer of why he didn't promote the vaccines is because it's not in his best interest to do so. That's the reason why Donald Trump does and doesn't do anything.  

 
No surprisingly, the video of what actually happened is quite a bit different than the headlines.

https://youtu.be/7hNqoQ8T4d0


Not surprisingly, the linked article from the OP mentioned this...

(CNN)Former President Donald Trump was booed by a portion of an audience in Dallas on Sunday when he said he had received a Covid-19 booster shot, according to video of the closed press event that was shared on social media.

The comments by Trump -- who, despite championing his administration's efforts to develop Covid vaccines, rarely discusses his own vaccination and has largely declined to encourage others to get it -- came during a stop of his tour with former Fox News host Bill O'Reilly.

According to video tweeted by O'Reilly's "No Spin News," the former Fox News host says, "Both the President and I are vaxxed" and then asks Trump, "Did you get the booster?"

"Yes," Trump says to a smattering of boos in the audience. "Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't," Trump says in the video, seemingly trying to quiet the boos. "That's all right, it's a very tiny group over there."

Then goes on to add - again, this is all in the link provided by OP:

In a longer video later tweeted by O'Reilly's site, Trump warns supporters that they are "playing right into their hands" when they dismiss the vaccines and don't take credit for them.

"Look, we did something that was historic, we saved tens of millions of lives worldwide. We, together, all of us, not me," Trump says in the video, which comes right before Trump receives the smattering of boos.

He goes on to say that Covid-19 was going to "ravage the country far beyond what it is right now" if the vaccines had not been developed.

"Take credit for it. Take credit for it. It's great. What we've done is historic. Don't let them take it away. Don't take it away from ourselves," Trump says. "You are playing right into their hands when you sort of like, 'oh, the vaccine.' If you don't want to take it, you shouldn't be forced to take it. No mandates. But take credit, because we saved tens of millions of lives. Take credit. Don't let them take that away from you."

 

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