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You were always one of my favs, belljr. You looking for an assistant to the traveling secretary?
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ChiefD
Footballguy
formerfourdigit
Footballguy
uninstalled the app last night. everything on my timeline was about Elon. got a push notification from him even though I didn't follow him and explicitly said I don't care to see his tweets and that was it for me.
The Commish
Footballguy
Are they cleaning out inactive accounts? I created an account years ago and just got an email it had been removed. Havent used it in forever.
Insein
Footballguy
Having been on the app for over a decade, it is pretty much true. Twitter would sometimes ban the account when forced to but they accepted the ad revenue generated by the hundreds of thousands of views on the content. Then I've seen accounts like the authors who actively tried to get the accounts shut down be suspended because they would get counter reported by the dealers for harassment of a protected group. Add in that there was no direct way to report CP on the app before Elon and the new team has made major common sense strides in cleaning this up.I don’t really know anything about this nor do I understand how/why traffickers would use a public forum like Twitter for their crimes. Seems like it would make it very easy for police to run sting operations, bust people, etc. I saw some tweets from that author and it almost seemed too good to be true. Her saying a couple years ago she realized Elon was the only person in the world who could stop child sex trafficking on Twitter seemed like a red flag of a statement as well. Nice to see Newsweek run it, if this is really harming child porn or sex rings than it’s a massive win for Musk and a huge puzzling question for the previous management. I walk away from this with a lot more ? than answers.One thing Musk is doing way better than the previous management is getting rid of the CP. It was a problem that was not only ignored by previous Twitter Management, it was actively encouraged. I knew several people that got a week suspension for reporting CP accounts within the last 5 years. He's drastically cut down the amount and added tools to more easily report it in just a few weeks.
Elon Musk Is Protecting Sexually Exploited Children
Musk has been quietly making changes to Twitter that will have a huge positive global impact on the most vulnerable: children who are sexually exploited.www.newsweek.com
Mister CIA
Footballguy
Are y'all being snarky? I can't tell.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
It’s probably been at least 12 years for me, never noticed any of that. Wouldn’t law enforcement be busting these people left and right? Or is are law enforcement so tech stupid and out of touch with social media that they didn’t know what to do with it?
hagmania
Footballguy
I am not surprised that the company is able to do seemingly more with less. Whenever you have fresh eyes on an old process and people willing to put in the time, improvements can and will be made. The clincher is how maintenance goes with so many employees gone, and that's where losing 75% of your workforce would bite you in the behind.
Insein
Footballguy
Law enforcement is really at the mercy of the tech companies providing them evidence. So while I'm sure Twitter gave them some, it was clear they were not giving them everything. Child victims still have active lawsuits against twitter for not removing content depicting them despite being asked directly to do so. One case they told the victim the content didn't violate their TOS which is absurd.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
In many cases law enforcement can scan a computer with an IP address, but there's enough of it that most jurisdictions -- especially overseas -- can't dedicate enough law enforcement to address the problem even when they do.
And even if they do address it, households where there are multiple people in the house turn into a problem. Who put it on the computer? Who shared it? Dad? One of the brothers? A guest?
And one of the first things a pedo will do is ask someone they don't know online to send them an image knowing that a lot of cops, etc aren't allowed to do that. With AI making believable images now some places are using court-approved fakes in situations like these.
As far as I know from friends who work on this kind of thing, the problem with big social media sites and Google and etc isn't that they don't address the content on their sites when it's reported or they discover it (they all do -- it's criminal not to), it's that they don't do as much to support law enforcement and groups working on these issues as they could. There's a frustration that these sites are the main conduit for most of this stuff and they don't take enough responsibility to help stomp it out.
But that's from the understandably partisan perspective of someone actually doing a lot day to day to fight this stuff and it was easy to see the end-user privacy angles from the company's POV too. There are a lot of people with nothing to hide who would object to some of the solutions.
Battersbox
Footballguy
ISO instrux to attach a resume to a private message. TIA
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
I wasn't. I'm not familiar with the culture of tech companies, but by all accounts Twitter is in the process of a rather extreme reorganization. It seems reasonable to me to keep track of who is working on what while they get things sorted out. Presumably at some point you have people who code reporting to supervisors, and you let the team leads be in charge of this sort of thing, but I was under the impression that their internal chain of command is still in flux.
If Musk intends to read 2000+ weekly reports every week from now on, yeah obviously that's not going to work. It's just weird to me that people automatically assumed that this going to operate in an obviously-implausible fashion as opposed to the way stuff like this works in thousands of other workplaces.
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
Nm. Not worth discussing further.I don’t really know anything about this nor do I understand how/why traffickers would use a public forum like Twitter for their crimes. Seems like it would make it very easy for police to run sting operations, bust people, etc. I saw some tweets from that author and it almost seemed too good to be true. Her saying a couple years ago she realized Elon was the only person in the world who could stop child sex trafficking on Twitter seemed like a red flag of a statement as well. Nice to see Newsweek run it, if this is really harming child porn or sex rings than it’s a massive win for Musk and a huge puzzling question for the previous management. I walk away from this with a lot more ? than answers.One thing Musk is doing way better than the previous management is getting rid of the CP. It was a problem that was not only ignored by previous Twitter Management, it was actively encouraged. I knew several people that got a week suspension for reporting CP accounts within the last 5 years. He's drastically cut down the amount and added tools to more easily report it in just a few weeks.
Elon Musk Is Protecting Sexually Exploited Children
Musk has been quietly making changes to Twitter that will have a huge positive global impact on the most vulnerable: children who are sexually exploited.
massraider
Footballguy
I saw some chatter that one of the people fired was a senior developer who was responsible for the expansion to 280 characters.
Anyone getting fired now is a person that agreed to be extremely hardcore. That's a real kick in the onions. You would assume they had fired all the weak employees, and only the good ones received the email. I'd be very interested to know the average salary of this latest round of firings.
massraider
Footballguy
The article was definitely bullish on the stock. In fact, the only thing anyone thinks can hurt this stock price is his involvement with Twitter.
uwillbsoon
Footballguy
Sounds like the folks who showed loyalty to Musk and didn't leave but were fired last night only got 4 weeks of severance pay.
The others who decided they didn't want to be hardcore got 3 months.
The others who decided they didn't want to be hardcore got 3 months.
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uwillbsoon
Footballguy
Sounds like he was also the ML guy for the home timeline.
I've heard a lot of folks complain about how that's gotten worse since musk took over. Scuttlebutt is this engineer may have pushed back against those changes.
The other scuttlebutt is Musk may get rid of that entirely and just go reverse chrono.
He was also 50. So speculation is pay might also be part of it.
Or, he could just be a bad engineer
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The Commish
Footballguy
No idea what Musk plans to do with these status reports, but if hes not reading them, then the request seems like a complete waste of resources if the staff has really been cut as much as we've been told.
Bozeman Bruiser
Footballguy
How to use advanced muting options
You can mute specific words, hashtags, usernames, and emojis from your Home timeline, replies, and notifications. Learn how.
help.twitter.com
Did you try muting?
I have never used it but it seems like a pretty good feature for people who want to use Twitter and not get bombarded with the trending slapfights.
If you mute a word, hashtag, or account name it is supposed to block it from your timeline and notifications.
If you did try this and it did not work that would be good to know.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
I've always had mixed results with muting. It doesn't seem to help with screenshots or videos as much. I wonder if the algorithm over promotes that because of how much time it takes interacting with content to mute it. I've mostly tried it on sports teams near the playoffs though.
How to use advanced muting options
You can mute specific words, hashtags, usernames, and emojis from your Home timeline, replies, and notifications. Learn how.
Did you try muting?
I have never used it but it seems like a pretty good feature for people who want to use Twitter and not get bombarded with the trending slapfights.
If you mute a word, hashtag, or account name it is supposed to block it from your timeline and notifications.
If you did try this and it did not work that would be good to know.
It will keep you from seeing a certain user directly though. So will blocking.
Go back and reread this thread. I posted links to objective reports showing Musk addressing this issue, including from an activist as well as a news source who verified it.
Bozeman Bruiser
Footballguy
"Hate speech" update:
It will be interesting to see if he releases any data on the bots, where they originated from. Kudos to the Twitter moderation team.
It will be interesting to see if he releases any data on the bots, where they originated from. Kudos to the Twitter moderation team.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Well that sounds good, I’m also skeptical of any data that is purely internal. It’s a nice graph but that’s it. Not even a list of what is considered hate speech or how it’s being tracked. This is like when Netflix has some absolutely garbage movie nobody has heard of and they say “100 million people watched it this weekend making it the most watched movie ever”. The company just saying it isn’t enough for me to believe that.
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The Commish
Footballguy
Fyi..... "1/3 below spike levels" is still more than average/typical/normal
Battersbox
Footballguy
It says 1/3 below pre-spike levels.
The Commish
Footballguy
Thanks....hadn't seen the twitter version of the stat. I have no idea if ANY of it's true, but the internet is leaving out "pre"....as an fyi to everyone here. I suspect the reality is somewhere between that claim and twitter's.
What do you mean "the internet is leaving out the ..."?
It's not an "internet" quote.
It's a post by Musk. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1595630109116989440?s=20&t=M5yBUPEXK0pLp4lFYyt_xA
Do you mean a different thing like this from Wired claiming hate speech was up? https://twitter.com/LouPas/status/1595460416309796866?s=20&t=M5yBUPEXK0pLp4lFYyt_xA
The Commish
Footballguy
Others are commenting on the situation outside of musk.
Others are commenting on the situation outside of musk.
And the source there is "the internet"? Got it.
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