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This likely would have happened even if they'd kept the majority of their staff. Musk is trying to move fast. That means prioritizing new features. Those features would have pulled more resources from big fixes, refactoring, etc. But cutting staff exacerbates the issue.

I read he decided his cuts by sorting the engineers based on how many lines of code they produced and firing the fewest (which were likely the smartest people working on the most difficult stuff... and probably the bulk of the people that were actually asked back the next day).
 
Clarification on Verification

A lot of folks have asked about how you'll be able to distinguish between @TwitterBlue subscribers with blue checkmarks and accounts that are verified as official, which is why we’re introducing the “Official" label to select accounts when we launch.
Not all previously verified accounts will get the “Official” label and the label is not available for purchase. Accounts that will receive it include government accounts, commercial companies, business partners, major media outlets, publishers and some public figures.
The new Twitter Blue does not include ID verification – it’s an opt-in, paid subscription that offers a blue checkmark and access to select features. We’ll continue to experiment with ways to differentiate between account types.
 
Clarification on Verification

A lot of folks have asked about how you'll be able to distinguish between @TwitterBlue subscribers with blue checkmarks and accounts that are verified as official, which is why we’re introducing the “Official" label to select accounts when we launch.
Not all previously verified accounts will get the “Official” label and the label is not available for purchase. Accounts that will receive it include government accounts, commercial companies, business partners, major media outlets, publishers and some public figures.
The new Twitter Blue does not include ID verification – it’s an opt-in, paid subscription that offers a blue checkmark and access to select features. We’ll continue to experiment with ways to differentiate between account types.
So the blue checkmark literally means you paid $8?

Why even show it? What value does it bring?

I like that they're keeping official. I'm just not sure what value the checkmark badge has.
 
So the blue checkmark literally means you paid $8?

Why even show it? What value does it bring?

I like that they're keeping official. I'm just not sure what value the checkmark badge has.
You pay 8 bucks, and it pushes your posts to the top of feeds. They also casually promise half the ads if you pay 8 dollars, which I'm sure advertisers want to hear.

They are launching the "official" badge because it has occurred to them that without non-monetary verification, anyone can impersonate anyone.

So the Official will be what the verified check mark used to be, but maybe not exactly the same?

I'm sure the process for getting an Official verification will run smoother now that they have introduced a Paid Verification, and have fired half the staff. 🙂
 
Lots of peanut gallery folks criticizing Musk and think they know best what is going on inside Twitter. Musk is wildly successful because he is a brilliant engineer who relentlessly and methodically attacks problems. We will see how well Musk can navigate the complex public politics, but I would not doubt Musk ability to get Twitter running smoothly and effectively implementing his vision.
 
Elon Musk has scrapped Twitter’s working from home policy and ordered its staff back to the office, days after firing 3,700 employees.

The social media platform’s new owner told staff in an email, seen by the Guardian, that its “road ahead is arduous and will require intense work to succeed”.


The Tesla CEO added that working from home would no longer be allowed except in special circumstances, with such cases personally vetted by Musk.

 
Elon Musk has scrapped Twitter’s working from home policy and ordered its staff back to the office, days after firing 3,700 employees.

The social media platform’s new owner told staff in an email, seen by the Guardian, that its “road ahead is arduous and will require intense work to succeed”.


The Tesla CEO added that working from home would no longer be allowed except in special circumstances, with such cases personally vetted by Musk.

I assume most of these people are talented enough to find work elsewhere. Why would any of them deal with this?
 
Lots of peanut gallery folks criticizing Musk and think they know best what is going on inside Twitter. Musk is wildly successful because he is a brilliant engineer who relentlessly and methodically attacks problems. We will see how well Musk can navigate the complex public politics, but I would not doubt Musk ability to get Twitter running smoothly and effectively implementing his vision.

His stated mission for Twitter is for it to become by far the most accurate source of information about the world. That would necessarily require heavy content moderation and seems to run counter to the principles of free expression that underpinned what I understood to be his prior stated goals.
 
Elon Musk has scrapped Twitter’s working from home policy and ordered its staff back to the office, days after firing 3,700 employees.

The social media platform’s new owner told staff in an email, seen by the Guardian, that its “road ahead is arduous and will require intense work to succeed”.


The Tesla CEO added that working from home would no longer be allowed except in special circumstances, with such cases personally vetted by Musk.

I assume most of these people are talented enough to find work elsewhere. Why would any of them deal with this?

It doesn't seem like its a great time in tech to be looking for a job, though. So maybe not?

Meta Laying off More than 11k Employees
 
It doesn't seem like its a great time in tech to be looking for a job, though. So maybe not?

Meta Laying off More than 11k Employees
Definitely maybe not, right now anyway.

But WFH for these tech jobs is here to stay. Makes too much sense, and there are way too many other companies willing to do this. So that thing will happen, where the top whatever percent goes elsewhere, and the drones happy to have a job will stay.
 
According to messages shared in Twitter Slack, Twitter’s CISO, chief privacy office, and chief compliance officer all resigned last night.

An employee says it will be up to engineers to “self-certify compliance with FTC requirements and other laws.”
“All of this is extremely dangerous for our users,” the message says. “Given that the FTC can (and will!) fine Twitter BILLIONS of dollars pursuant to the FTC Consent Order, extremely detrimental to Twitter’s longevity as a platform. Our users deserve so much better than this.”
In the same message, the employee said Twitter’s current head of Legal, Alex Spiro, said “Elon is willing to take on a huge amount of risk in relation to his company and its users, because ‘Elon puts rockets into space, he’s not afraid of the FTC.’”
https://twitter.com/CaseyNewton/status/1590724257608134657?t=E-GQNpYxWZQO4i5QQJEbyg&s=19

I don't think big media has confirmed this. Right now, just one dude on Twitter (but he does have a check mark)
 
Elon Musk has scrapped Twitter’s working from home policy and ordered its staff back to the office, days after firing 3,700 employees.

The social media platform’s new owner told staff in an email, seen by the Guardian, that its “road ahead is arduous and will require intense work to succeed”.


The Tesla CEO added that working from home would no longer be allowed except in special circumstances, with such cases personally vetted by Musk.

I assume most of these people are talented enough to find work elsewhere. Why would any of them deal with this?

It doesn't seem like its a great time in tech to be looking for a job, though. So maybe not?

Meta Laying off More than 11k Employees
Very interesting that I saw no uproar about the WARN act with these layoffs like I did with Twitter. Meta is based in CA too right?
 
Elon Musk has scrapped Twitter’s working from home policy and ordered its staff back to the office, days after firing 3,700 employees.

The social media platform’s new owner told staff in an email, seen by the Guardian, that its “road ahead is arduous and will require intense work to succeed”.


The Tesla CEO added that working from home would no longer be allowed except in special circumstances, with such cases personally vetted by Musk.

I assume most of these people are talented enough to find work elsewhere. Why would any of them deal with this?

It doesn't seem like its a great time in tech to be looking for a job, though. So maybe not?

Meta Laying off More than 11k Employees
Very interesting that I saw no uproar about the WARN act with these layoffs like I did with Twitter. Meta is based in CA too right?
I don’t see anything in that article that says it has been or would be done without the 60 days notice required by the WARN Act, which is a federal law, not CA by the way.
 
Elon Musk has scrapped Twitter’s working from home policy and ordered its staff back to the office, days after firing 3,700 employees.

The social media platform’s new owner told staff in an email, seen by the Guardian, that its “road ahead is arduous and will require intense work to succeed”.


The Tesla CEO added that working from home would no longer be allowed except in special circumstances, with such cases personally vetted by Musk.

I assume most of these people are talented enough to find work elsewhere. Why would any of them deal with this?

It doesn't seem like its a great time in tech to be looking for a job, though. So maybe not?

Meta Laying off More than 11k Employees
Very interesting that I saw no uproar about the WARN act with these layoffs like I did with Twitter. Meta is based in CA too right?
I don’t see anything in that article that says it has been or would be done without the 60 days notice required by the WARN Act, which is a federal law, not CA by the way.
Not sure I understand your point?
 
Elon Musk has scrapped Twitter’s working from home policy and ordered its staff back to the office, days after firing 3,700 employees.

The social media platform’s new owner told staff in an email, seen by the Guardian, that its “road ahead is arduous and will require intense work to succeed”.


The Tesla CEO added that working from home would no longer be allowed except in special circumstances, with such cases personally vetted by Musk.

I assume most of these people are talented enough to find work elsewhere. Why would any of them deal with this?

It doesn't seem like its a great time in tech to be looking for a job, though. So maybe not?

Meta Laying off More than 11k Employees
we are hiring left and right....anyone want to work in financial services?
 
Elon Musk has scrapped Twitter’s working from home policy and ordered its staff back to the office, days after firing 3,700 employees.

The social media platform’s new owner told staff in an email, seen by the Guardian, that its “road ahead is arduous and will require intense work to succeed”.


The Tesla CEO added that working from home would no longer be allowed except in special circumstances, with such cases personally vetted by Musk.

I assume most of these people are talented enough to find work elsewhere. Why would any of them deal with this?

It doesn't seem like its a great time in tech to be looking for a job, though. So maybe not?

Meta Laying off More than 11k Employees
we are hiring left and right....anyone want to work in financial services?
Here too. transportation, especially trucking is very strong. All levels. Drivers, supervisors, managers etc etc.....
 
I know..That was my point?
You said it was interesting you didn't see an uproar regarding WARN when META laid off their 11,000. (This reads to me as 'META did the same thing, why no uproar?')

If META was complying, there wouldn't be an uproar, which I thought was Krista's point.

Maybe I misunderstood your point, not the first time I have done that.
 
Lots of peanut gallery folks criticizing Musk and think they know best what is going on inside Twitter. Musk is wildly successful because he is a brilliant engineer who relentlessly and methodically attacks problems. We will see how well Musk can navigate the complex public politics, but I would not doubt Musk ability to get Twitter running smoothly and effectively implementing his vision.

His stated mission for Twitter is for it to become by far the most accurate source of information about the world. That would necessarily require heavy content moderation and seems to run counter to the principles of free expression that underpinned what I understood to be his prior stated goals.

Musk is trying to appease his advertisers a bit too much with that language. He would be better if he described what he is trying to implement by saying he wants Twitter to be the best source of truth. Twitter is going to have many inaccuracies by its nature. What Musk sees is the Twitter universe self-moderating to eventually get to the truth, even with inaccurate information is part of that process.
 
I know..That was my point?
You said it was interesting you didn't see an uproar regarding WARN when META laid off their 11,000. (This reads to me as 'META did the same thing, why no uproar?')

If META was complying, there wouldn't be an uproar, which I thought was Krista's point.

Maybe I misunderstood your point, not the first time I have done that.
I am a bit baffled by the WARN story as it relates to Twitter. Did Musk avoid the lawsuits by simply paying everyone for an additional 60 days? Is that how Meta is also not at risk for this? It seemed strange to me to suggest folks get 60 days warning or whatever. I mean, for a position of any importance, companies aren't going to let people tool around and risk any mayhem they might cause from the inside. I know in my industry you are let go and your PC is immediately locked to prevent you from burning the place down on your way out the door.
 
Not sure I understand your point?
No one has intimated that Meta isn't complying with WARN.
I know..That was my point?

The Meta announcement letter to employees states expressly that they will receive 16 weeks severance pay plus two additional weeks for every year of service. As a general matter, this would satisfy the pay in lieu of notice provisions under the WARN Act, which is why people weren’t crying foul about the WARN Act. In Twitter’s situation, employees were getting locked out with no notice. It wasn’t until after the initial notice that statements were made about employees being paid through February. The WARN Act concerns were being raised before that was clarified (and the clarification may have been a result of those concerns being raised).
 
I know..That was my point?
You said it was interesting you didn't see an uproar regarding WARN when META laid off their 11,000. (This reads to me as 'META did the same thing, why no uproar?')

If META was complying, there wouldn't be an uproar, which I thought was Krista's point.

Maybe I misunderstood your point, not the first time I have done that.
I am a bit baffled by the WARN story as it relates to Twitter. Did Musk avoid the lawsuits by simply paying everyone for an additional 60 days? Is that how Meta is also not at risk for this? It seemed strange to me to suggest folks get 60 days warning or whatever. I mean, for a position of any importance, companies aren't going to let people tool around and risk any mayhem they might cause from the inside. I know in my industry you are let go and your PC is immediately locked to prevent you from burning the place down on your way out the door.

Right, you can pay in lieu of the required notice under the WARN Act.
 
I'm really skeptical that people are actually going to pay $8/month for verification unless you work in an industry where you absolutely have to be verified to do your job (journalism). I get the argument about trying to cut down on bots, but if most of your normal users forgo verification, I don't see how this helps on the bot front. This seems like a much bigger risk business-wise than tweaking moderation policies.

I honestly keep thinking it will have the opposite effect. Let's say a powerful entity uses bots to sway public opinion in various directions. If there is nothing more to the new check than paying $8/month then what is stopping said entity from throwing a million bucks (annually) at it and setting up 10,000 blue check bot accounts that now automatically rise to the top of the algorithms via their subscription? I guess we will see further details but this new system is supposed to be rolled out on Monday and I could see things going south pretty quickly.
A different way to look at it:

There are x number of current blue checks who will not want to pay $8 to keep their blue check. There are also x number of current non blue checks who will want to pay $8 to get a blue check.

Think people like Joe, small businesses in your community, entrepreneurs, content creators, up and coming entertainers, journalists, wanna be influencers. All people who did not pass Twitter's previous somewhat arbitrary requirements for a blue check.

Spending $100/yr to have a verified account, half the ads, ability to share video content, boost in search results, ability to edit tweets, plus whatever other perks they come up with down the road could be a solid value for someone who uses Twitter as part of their business or personal brand. The price is peanuts, and likely tax deductible for many.

As for bots, it is easy to set up a bot farm that operates thousands of accounts (China just got caught running 2000 bots to influence the 2022 midterms). Attaching a bank account to each bot account is not logistically possible, that fraud would be caught on the bank's end I assume. Attaching prepaid cards to each bot account to pay the $8 is probably possible for a small farm but no way China or Russia or whoever is taking the time and expense to manually setup prepaid cards and verified accounts for thousands of bots. And who knows what the actual Twitter Blue subscription process involves, I assume it requires a name, email, zip code same as premium subscriptions to Spotify, YouTube, LinkedIn. It would be easier for the evil doer to just create more bots.

It will be interesting to see what Musk does to combat bots though. Bots have infiltrated most platforms (like Instagram, YouTube, Twitter) and none of the companies seem to care, they just look the other way while they juice their numbers for ad dollars and bonuses.

This.
I don't have a dog in this fight, but all the wokesters rushing to tear Elon down seem to keep missing the big picture.

The $8 isn't just for a blue checkmark and media accounts will still be marked as verified.

The same people are mocking Musk for buying a company with bad finances, then mocking him for doing things to improve finances (reducing staff, adding revenue streams). The outrage is a bit bizarre but admittedly entertaining from the sidelines. :lol:
Update?
 
I know..That was my point?
You said it was interesting you didn't see an uproar regarding WARN when META laid off their 11,000. (This reads to me as 'META did the same thing, why no uproar?')

If META was complying, there wouldn't be an uproar, which I thought was Krista's point.

Maybe I misunderstood your point, not the first time I have done that.
I am a bit baffled by the WARN story as it relates to Twitter. Did Musk avoid the lawsuits by simply paying everyone for an additional 60 days? Is that how Meta is also not at risk for this? It seemed strange to me to suggest folks get 60 days warning or whatever. I mean, for a position of any importance, companies aren't going to let people tool around and risk any mayhem they might cause from the inside. I know in my industry you are let go and your PC is immediately locked to prevent you from burning the place down on your way out the door.
Yeah..Only difference was it was Musk. He locked people out, which makes sense and they all had emails saying they were laid off. It didn't happen after they were locked out. But it was Musk so everyone went gaga over it, meanwhile Zuckerberg did the exact same thing and...crickets,
 
Lots of peanut gallery folks criticizing Musk and think they know best what is going on inside Twitter. Musk is wildly successful because he is a brilliant engineer who relentlessly and methodically attacks problems. We will see how well Musk can navigate the complex public politics, but I would not doubt Musk ability to get Twitter running smoothly and effectively implementing his vision.
I think you've got to the issue. Musk is a brilliant engineer. But Twitter isn't an engineering problem.

Social platforms don't succeed necessarily because they're engineered better. They succeed because the masses are there.

He started by pissing off the masses with a series of tweets designed to anger the lefties that populate Twitter. And he scared advertisers by insinuating free speech would rule, which they took to mean vile stuff they didn't want to have their brands associated with.

Twitter is more a political problem than an engineering one. Which is not Musk's strength.

He seems to have gotten the message and moderated his behavior. So I'm optimistic he'll succeed. But his ideas seem haphazard. And, like bad product managers, more aimed at alleviating his perceived issues with Twitter than the average user.
 
I love that there are now a bunch of checkmark accounts claiming to be sports reporters saying Josh Allen is having season ending surgery. Real helpful.
 
Yeah you didn't read it or you don't understand. Twitter employees had as much notice as Meta employees. Which was none. On Monday they had jobs, on Tuesday they did not. Both done the same. Both companies informed their employees via email. Both companies are paying severance, bith companies gave their employees no notice. There was literally no difference between the two.
I did, and I do. But I will spare everyone this rabbit hole.

I didn't really understand why it was super interesting that (in your opinion) Meta did this, but there was no outrage.

Is there a double standard at work here? Elon Musk does it, and everyone hates him, so he gets outrage, but Mark Zuckerberg does it and no outrage because........everyone likes him?

Yeah you didn't read it or you don't understand. Twitter employees had as much notice as Meta employees. Which was none. On Monday they had jobs, on Tuesday they did not. Both done the same. Both companies informed their employees via email. Both companies are paying severance, bith companies gave their employees no notice. There was literally no difference between the two.
I did, and I do. But I will spare everyone this rabbit hole.

I didn't really understand why it was super interesting that (in your opinion) Meta did this, but there was no outrage.

Is there a double standard at work here? Elon Musk does it, and everyone hates him, so he gets outrage, but Mark Zuckerberg does it and no outrage because........everyone likes him?
Well yeah it does seem that way. Musk got beaten up pretty well for his layoffs and Zuck got nothing. So yeah I'm going with double standard for sure. Which really is a shame.
 
On today’s call he told staff if they aren’t in the office, their resignation is accepted, Twitter may be bankrupt in a few months, and when somebody asked what his plan was he said “I don’t know…we all to be more hardcore” :lmao:
I see almost zero chance twitter is bankrupt in a few months,
 
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-n...-resign-musks-chaotic-run-continues-rcna56597

Twitter’s chief information security officer and chief compliance officer resigned late Wednesday night as the company started implementing changes that would allow users to more easily impersonate major brands and government officials.

The departures came just hours before the company’s new CEO, Elon Musk, sent his first email to Twitter employees, titled “difficult times ahead,” and implementing a mandatory return-to-work policy.
The FTC said in a statement that it is “tracking recent developments at Twitter
By Ben Collins
Twitter’s chief information security officer and chief compliance officer resigned late Wednesday night as the company started implementing changes that would allow users to more easily impersonate major brands and government officials.
The departures came just hours before the company’s new CEO, Elon Musk, sent his first email to Twitter employees, titled “difficult times ahead,” and implementing a mandatory return-to-work policy.



Lea Kissner, the chief information security officer, confirmed they had left in a Twitter post Thursday morning. Chief Compliance Officer Marianne Fogarty has also left the company, according to a person familiar with the situation who asked to remain nameless because they were not authorized to speak publicly.
“I don’t watch Game of Thrones. I certainly don’t want to play it at work,” Fogarty tweeted Monday.
A spokesperson for the Federal Trade Commission said in an emailed statement that it is keeping watch on the situation.
“We are tracking recent developments at Twitter with deep concern,” the spokesperson wrote. “No CEO or company is above the law, and companies must follow our consent decrees. Our revised consent order gives us new tools to ensure compliance, and we are prepared to use them.”

On Wednesday, Twitter rolled out the new Twitter Blue, which allows any user to purchase a verification badge for $7.99 per month as long as they joined Twitter before Nov. 9. As feared by cybersecurity professionals, users immediately used the pay-to-play feature to impersonate public figures and brands. One user impersonating LeBron James demanded a trade from the Los Angeles Lakers (👈 lol)
 
On today’s call he told staff if they aren’t in the office, their resignation is accepted, Twitter may be bankrupt in a few months, and when somebody asked what his plan was he said “I don’t know…we all to be more hardcore” :lmao:

I can’t wait to watch Sorkin do a movie about this in a few years. Epic meltdown.
 
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