krista4
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Reminds me of college, too.
And JML is definitely a bright light in every thread.ETA: As are you.
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U2 - Community rankings - FIN - #4 Sunday Bloody Sunday, #3 - One, #2 - Bad, #1 - Where the Streets Have No Name -Spotify links, thanks to Krista4 (1 Viewer)
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Reminds me of college, too.
And JML is definitely a bright light in every thread.ETA: As are you.
simey
Footballguy
krista4
Footballguy
Are you trying to butter me up for some type of trade for my Beatles lunchbox?
What'll it take?
John Maddens Lunchbox
Footballguy
krista4 said:By the way, this has been such a fun exercise for me, so I want to thank the crew again, especially JML, for allowing non-super-fans to get in on the action. I've re-visited old favorites with a new appreciation for them, and learned of some new favorites.
I'm about 2/3 of my way through the ranking engine, but I've already decided, me being me, to give the whole playlist one last whirl to "make sure" before submitting.
simey said:
Thank you both, i really appreciate it and you. This forum is much better with you both here.krista4 said:Reminds me of college, too.
ETA: As are you.
I remember when dr pill started these Desert Island drafts I was incredibly enthusiastic, but a royal PITA. As ive aged, ive become more mellow, but surprisingly more optimistic.
Been about 5 years since i participated in a music draft. I was gutted when mods deemed the proposed sex, drugs and rock n roll music draft too risque.....and im really out of the modern music scene. You would think having teenage kids i would be invested, but air pods make it difficult to tune in.
John Maddens Lunchbox
Footballguy
Great stuff. Send me a list of your faves, minimum 25, maximum whatever you like....ive got up to 228. Mine will be 250+ this time round.ekbeats said:
It doesnt matter if you arent up to date with the Songs LPs, wherever you stopped is fine,
Anarchy99
Footballguy
I have taken my share of ribbing for liking Rattle and Hum the most of anyone (of all the rankers). I'd be interested to hear how folks from London at the time felt about the album.
krista4
Footballguy
I finished using the ranking engine, and they are wacky. I must have made some weird choices in the beginning that put some songs in the "losers bracket" when they shouldn't have been, or something like that. The tippy top few songs are fine, and the lower half is fine (or I don't care much about them), but 5-45 look way out of whack.
So of course I'm going to put the first 45 back in the ranking engine and try again.
So of course I'm going to put the first 45 back in the ranking engine and try again.
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Pip's Invitation
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Superficially, no. ATMP is a song that produces one of the most intense emotional reactions from me, whereas I don't really get the feels from Kite. But I've never tried to look for resemblances between the two.
simey
Footballguy
John Maddens Lunchbox
Footballguy
Yeah, i agree. Sometimes our own rankings dont make sensekrista4 said:I finished using the ranking engine, and they are wacky. I must have made some weird choices in the beginning that put some songs in the "losers bracket" when they shouldn't have been, or something like that. The tippy top few songs are fine, and the lower half is fine (or I don't care much about them), but 5-45 look way out of whack.
So of course I'm going to put the first 45 back in the ranking engine and try again.
eg if I rank Kite over One Tree Hill, but I rank One Tree Hill over Desire. Then I rank Desire over Kite. Head explode.
The ranking engine definitely helps automate the process. Then its a process of manually correcting the faulty logic that went into the rankings lol
krista4
Footballguy
I'm sure this is exactly what I did many, many times. I think the ranking engine gave up, spit some stuff out, and said, "You make sense of this, dummy."
John Maddens Lunchbox
Footballguy
Rough deadline of April 1 to submit lists
simey
Footballguy
I have 50 on my list, and I put them in order today. I keep changing around the last 10. I'll send it to you tomorrow.
*Sent it
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krista4
Footballguy
Excited for this. I've been interspersing U2 rankings with Beatles write-ups and really enjoying listening. After my first failed attempt with the ranking engine, I put my top 46 back in there and ended up with a much better output when I redid those. For instance, the songs that came in at #28 and #29 on my first try are now at #4 and #5, which is much, much closer to where they should be. I'm going to refine those top 46, maybe moving a few of them down into the bottom group of 50 or so instead, and then refine the bottom group without a full re-ranking, since I don't care so much about having those "right" as I do those at the top. Then I have a list of ~40 that I originally selected but tossed out along the way, and I'm going to give them all one more listen to see if they merit slipping back into the bottom of the list.
I'm sure everyone really needed to know all that.
What I'm trying to say is that I'll hit that April 1 deadline without issue.
simey
Footballguy
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
One of my friends in high school was pretty tenacious about tracking down U2's B-sides and compilation tracks in the '80s and '90s -- he made cassettes of them for me so I would have access to them as well. He told me he might submit a list.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
Been an odd past 3 or 4 months. Between U2, LZ, and Beatles ranking threads and my ongoing Grateful Dead project, I have reached a saturation point where I can't listen to any of those bands anymore. Just overkill. I'm sure down the road when I don't hear them 50-100 times a day things will go back to normal. But for now . . . :X
bigbottom
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krista4
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simey
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Pip's Invitation
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simey said:It was going to land somewhere in the 40s for me, so I put it at #50 just to bug Pip.
Nemesis
Footballguy
on this day, March 9, 1987...........The Joshua Tree album was released (35 YEARS AGO.....can you believe it?)
@John Maddens Lunchbox any update on WHEN the compiled user ranking will be released?
@John Maddens Lunchbox any update on WHEN the compiled user ranking will be released?
John Maddens Lunchbox
Footballguy
I have a soft date of April 01 for new lists. Will start @ people who have not sent a list first. Then compiling. Then doing an excel formula to work out my stupid points system.Nemesis said:
Led Zeppelin and Beatles countdowns are still going so no hurry.
bigbottom
Footballguy
krista4
Footballguy
#12 for me.
In case anyone is wondering why their notifications are blowing up, I am finally reading this whole thread from the beginning.
I figured it was safe since I've submitted my rankings to JML (though I have thought about changing them...). I'm trying not to comment on old posts but am liking/loving/laughing. I ended up submitting 107* songs and could have had a few dozen more that I wonder if I should have included after all. They are songs that made my initial cut, but I later removed them as too unfinished or being earlier workings of released songs (I'm looking at you, "Down All The Days"). Maybe I should have included since almost all were not on the original 228-song list, and we could have discussed them more. We'll see if they come up on other lists.
*Under review. In reading the thread I found some that got lost in my cutting and pasting, including one that had been in originally around #30.
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bigbottom
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I think there will be a lot of similarities between our lists. It will be interesting to see where we diverge. I only ranked 71 tunes by the way.#12 for me.
In case anyone is wondering why their notifications are blowing up, I am finally reading this whole thread from the beginning.
I ended up submitting 107 songs and could have had a few dozen more that I wonder if I should have included after all. They are songs that made my initial cut, but I later removed them as too unfinished or being earlier workings of released songs (I'm looking at you, "Down All The Days"). Maybe I should have included since almost all were not on the original 228-song list, and we could have discussed them more. We'll see if they come up on other lists.
The Dreaded Marco
Footballguy
krista4
Footballguy
I just said I wasn't going to comment on individual posts but them immediately came to this one. I'm sure there will have been discussion of your post so I'm re-hashing a three-month-old conversation, but I agree with your thoughts above. It seems like some people want U2 to sound like whatever they did when that person first came to the band. For me, that would be the first few albums, and I do admit to having more of an affection for their early post-punk sound than it appears most of you do based on the rankings and discussion. But with "doesn't sound like U2" in mind, that would mean I couldn't appreciate their stadium-anthem sound or any of their polished works, which I very much do.
I've become much more of a fan (again) due to this thread and hearing some of their later albums for the first time, in large part because of their ability to evolve. I love every era of the Beatles, and their styles seemed to have an even more disparate range. Why can't I do the same for U2?
Anarchy99
Footballguy
I'll be the first to admit I am a fan of U2 from the early days up until probably 2000. After that, the attachment I had tapered off and their songs over the past 20 years usually don't strike a chord for me. I grew up on U2, so that changes the dynamic for me. I have tons of memories from when they were radio staples.I just said I wasn't going to comment on individual posts but them immediately came to this one. I'm sure there will have been discussion of your post so I'm re-hashing a three-month-old conversation, but I agree with your thoughts above. It seems like some people want U2 to sound like whatever they did when that person first came to the band. For me, that would be the first few albums, and I do admit to having more of an affection for their early post-punk sound than it appears most of you do based on the rankings and discussion. But with "doesn't sound like U2" in mind, that would mean I couldn't appreciate their stadium-anthem sound or any of their polished works, which I very much do.
I've become much more of a fan (again) due to this thread and hearing some of their later albums for the first time, in large part because of their ability to evolve. I love every era of the Beatles, and their styles seemed to have an even more disparate range. Why can't I do the same for U2?
I am not old enough to have been around for The Beatles, but I like their body of work more than the full portfolio of U2. I mentioned back when we did this (U2) that I like probably half of what U2 has put out. By comparison to other artists, I think that's a pretty high percentage. I probably like 98% of The Beatles catalog . . . and that's not having been alive to hear it when the songs were released.
I still listen to "new U2" on occasion. Don't love, don't hate it. Hats off to the many others that really get into it. It's just not my thing. I've given the newer songs plenty of time to take root over the years and most of them haven't. C'est la vie.
krista4
Footballguy
I think from a discussion that you and I had of a bad experience you had with a Wellesley student that we are of similar age, so I suspect we came at U2 around the same time. (And obviously I didn't experience The Beatles real-time either.) Like you, I lost track of them later, though about 9-10 years before you did. That's why I've been pleasantly surprised to listen to some of the newer stuff and have at least a couple in my top 25 (Mrs. @Alex P Keaton shrieks in horror!). Hell, I also even have a couple from the much-maligned Zooropa-through-Pop years.
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krista4
Footballguy
I’m up to #22 in the thread now, and we seem to be close on the vast majority of those you’ve commented on. We have a few differences including one huge disparity, but I think I’ll end up closest to you and Pip in the end. I have a lot in common with the APKs, too, in terms of love for the early stuff.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
Except for Bullet the Blue Sky.
For that one, I said outside the top 50 is insane. Did you put it at 50 on the dot to avoid that designation?
krista4
Footballguy
krista4
Footballguy
Since I'm reading this entire thread over the course of a few days, it's been evident to me that one poster has 50-60 in his top 25.
It will be interesting to see if he sent in a list and actually had to make the tough choices. I found the same when I did the original Beatles thread, but then when people did their own, they realized how difficult it actually was.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
The funny (and challenging) part about @krista4 leaving reactions and quotes from posts from several months ago is trying to figure out which songs she is reacting to. Since the board quoting process no longer carries over all the comments from an initial post, it makes it much harder to figure out what song she is referring to.
But I do agree that some people need to step up and present their Top 50 songs in their Top 10 lists for us to review and evaluate.
But I do agree that some people need to step up and present their Top 50 songs in their Top 10 lists for us to review and evaluate.
krista4
Footballguy
Your post that I quoted was a stand-alone; if you had quoted anyone, I would have included both. But your response seemed to be in relation to Ultraviolet, as it had recently been posted.
bigbottom
Footballguy
bigbottom
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krista4
Footballguy
Glad I'm not the only one. I'm actually re-ranking a bit...again. No worries there! It's in my top 10.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Really thought you were just hitting emojis for my posts…..#12 for me.
In case anyone is wondering why their notifications are blowing up, I am finally reading this whole thread from the beginning.
I ended up submitting 107* songs and could have had a few dozen more that I wonder if I should have included after all. They are songs that made my initial cut, but I later removed them as too unfinished or being earlier workings of released songs (I'm looking at you, "Down All The Days"). Maybe I should have included since almost all were not on the original 228-song list, and we could have discussed them more. We'll see if they come up on other lists.
*Under review. In reading the thread I found some that got lost in my cutting and pasting, including one that had been in originally around #30.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Someone actually reads my posts!I think from a discussion that you and I had of a bad experience you had with a Wellesley student that we are of similar age, so I suspect we came at U2 around the same time. (And obviously I didn't experience The Beatles real-time either.) Like you, I lost track of them later, though about 9-10 years before you did. That's why I've been pleasantly surprised to listen to some of the newer stuff and have at least a couple in my top 25 (Mrs. @Alex P Keaton shrieks in horror!). Hell, I also even have a couple from the much-maligned Zooropa-through-Pop years.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
Did you post in this thread? This is the first one I've seen from you.Someone actually reads my posts!
bigbottom
Footballguy
krista4
Footballguy
krista4
Footballguy
@Pip's Invitation @Alex P Keaton Another Time, Another Place is currently ~#80 for me. Not as high as you guys would have it, but better than its fate in the original list.
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