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I still maintain that calling it a lucky punch is a bit short-sighted, but I do think Babalu will be able to take Lawler down to pull out a win via ground 'n' pound or submission. I really love Babalu's GNP. Great to see a submission artist that doesn't forget to beat his opponent to a pulp when given the opportunity.

As for the other fights, not feeling Heun at all, but the line is great. I don't know about Marius/Evangelista. Guess I'm taking Zaromskis over homeboy Cyborg due to the Brazilian's inevitable gas tank fail, but he still has huge power before that happens. If Marius plays it smart, it shouldn't be a problem for him.

 
I still maintain that calling it a lucky punch is a bit short-sighted, but I do think Babalu will be able to take Lawler down to pull out a win via ground 'n' pound or submission. I really love Babalu's GNP. Great to see a submission artist that doesn't forget to beat his opponent to a pulp when given the opportunity.As for the other fights, not feeling Heun at all, but the line is great. I don't know about Marius/Evangelista. Guess I'm taking Zaromskis over homeboy Cyborg due to the Brazilian's inevitable gas tank fail, but he still has huge power before that happens. If Marius plays it smart, it shouldn't be a problem for him.
I put lucky in quotes because I didn't really think it was the right word. It was a quick, one punch KO, that saved Lawlor a leg.
 
Cliff Clavin said:
modogg> What do you mean by "Lawlor was having a good one with Manhoef"? Lawlor just about had his leg amputated during the fight and had zero offense until he caught Manhoef with a "lucky" punch.
You're right, poor choice of wording. I remember the fight pretty well because my money was on Melvin in that one. My only argument with him in that one is that he did a good job of weathering the storm and it goes to what Hooter said about him judging distance and read Melvin well.
I'm not sure I can call taking repeated, viscous leg kicks, weathering the storm. Lawlor Russow'ed him.
:D I give Lawler a little more credit than that, but that's funny.

 
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I still maintain that calling it a lucky punch is a bit short-sighted, but I do think Babalu will be able to take Lawler down to pull out a win via ground 'n' pound or submission. I really love Babalu's GNP. Great to see a submission artist that doesn't forget to beat his opponent to a pulp when given the opportunity.

As for the other fights, not feeling Heun at all, but the line is great. I don't know about Marius/Evangelista. Guess I'm taking Zaromskis over homeboy Cyborg due to the Brazilian's inevitable gas tank fail, but he still has huge power before that happens. If Marius plays it smart, it shouldn't be a problem for him.
I put lucky in quotes because I didn't really think it was the right word. It was a quick, one punch KO, that saved Lawlor a leg.
Definitely. To me, the lucky part was that Manhoef got overly excited (read: dumb) and dropped his guard in close range, but Lawler knew what he was doing with that punch. If Melvin had just kept kicking, I can't even imagine what might've happened to Lawler's leg.
 
Cliff Clavin said:
modogg> What do you mean by "Lawlor was having a good one with Manhoef"? Lawlor just about had his leg amputated during the fight and had zero offense until he caught Manhoef with a "lucky" punch.
You're right, poor choice of wording. I remember the fight pretty well because my money was on Melvin in that one. My only argument with him in that one is that he did a good job of weathering the storm and it goes to what Hooter said about him judging distance and read Melvin well.
I'm not sure I can call taking repeated, viscous leg kicks, weathering the storm. Lawlor Russow'ed him.
:D I give Lawler a little more credit than that, but that's funny.
:thumbup: The more accepted form seemed to be 'Scott Smith'd' prior to Russow/Duffee. Well done.
 
I still maintain that calling it a lucky punch is a bit short-sighted, but I do think Babalu will be able to take Lawler down to pull out a win via ground 'n' pound or submission. I really love Babalu's GNP. Great to see a submission artist that doesn't forget to beat his opponent to a pulp when given the opportunity.

As for the other fights, not feeling Heun at all, but the line is great. I don't know about Marius/Evangelista. Guess I'm taking Zaromskis over homeboy Cyborg due to the Brazilian's inevitable gas tank fail, but he still has huge power before that happens. If Marius plays it smart, it shouldn't be a problem for him.
I put lucky in quotes because I didn't really think it was the right word. It was a quick, one punch KO, that saved Lawlor a leg.
Definitely. To me, the lucky part was that Manhoef got overly excited (read: dumb) and dropped his guard in close range, but Lawler knew what he was doing with that punch. If Melvin had just kept kicking, I can't even imagine what might've happened to Lawler's leg.
with all this said, this fight looks tailor made for Lawlor (same could almost be said for babalu the way lawlor sticks his head out when he is grappling). If Babalu tried to stand with gegard i imagine he will try with Robbie a bit. One thing Lawlor does well is he is patient for that one shot. And i do not like Babalu's chances with a power striker because he has been shown to have a weak chin
 
I still maintain that calling it a lucky punch is a bit short-sighted, but I do think Babalu will be able to take Lawler down to pull out a win via ground 'n' pound or submission. I really love Babalu's GNP. Great to see a submission artist that doesn't forget to beat his opponent to a pulp when given the opportunity.

As for the other fights, not feeling Heun at all, but the line is great. I don't know about Marius/Evangelista. Guess I'm taking Zaromskis over homeboy Cyborg due to the Brazilian's inevitable gas tank fail, but he still has huge power before that happens. If Marius plays it smart, it shouldn't be a problem for him.
I put lucky in quotes because I didn't really think it was the right word. It was a quick, one punch KO, that saved Lawlor a leg.
Definitely. To me, the lucky part was that Manhoef got overly excited (read: dumb) and dropped his guard in close range, but Lawler knew what he was doing with that punch. If Melvin had just kept kicking, I can't even imagine what might've happened to Lawler's leg.
the EMTs would have been packing it in ice for reattachment back at the hospital.I agree that if Zaromskis plays it safe he should have the speed and cardio to outlast Santos, but the guy doesn't really seem to want to do anything except go hell for leather, full speed ahead. I don't know that MZ has the chin to stand and slug with Santos like Manhoef did, but he's probably going to try anyway.

 
I definately am waiting to see the line and will grab Court when it comes out as well.
Court McGee -200

I think he kills dummy McCray.
I just saw that. Ultimate Finale's are always tough, but i think Court will win that one. I put money in on one now, and may put more in later, but i see it is starting to move, so i'll post it now:Chris Camozzi over Hammertree: Both likable guys, but i think Camozzi has more skills and ability to win this. I like this one a lot. I see it has moved a bit, and i can see it moving some more.

 
Now, should the fight stay standing for a majority of the time - which is how I see it - I truly believe Carwin has the more effective standup. While neither is by any means a master of technique, I don't see how you could even argue that Lesnar's got the sheer punching power at Carwin's level. Lesnar's yet to standing KO anybody, and has had to rely on his massive frame wearing down his opponents en route to ground and pound victories. Carwin on the otherhand, is a straight killer. This guy hits with the intent of hurting people. I try to imagine Randy Couture or Heath Herring vs. Shane Carwin, and find it hard to believe either of those guys would have lasted longer than 3 minutes before Carwin decapitates either of them. Lesnar tends to get tagged up a bit in his fights, yet hasn't had that happen via anybody with any semblance of actual knockout power. Carwin WILL be able to hit Lesnar in this fight, and we'll finally see what kind of chin Brock his. Given Carwin's KO power, I find it hard to believe he won't be able to wobble Brock and then put him on his back and finish him off while stunned.
The bolded is one of the biggest reasons i think Carwin can take Lesnar. A mistake you see all the time is everybody sees a big guy and assumes he can punch hard. You can lift all the weights you want, but you get the power in the punches for working on punching. I used to train boxing, and you would see examples of it all the time. Little guys who have boxed for years would punch you, and it felt like a ton of bricks. Point is, I think Carwin works on his punching much more then Brock has, and you can see it in the power he has with his punches. I won't be hitting this line up much until the NBA Finals are over and the next 3 MMA events in 4 days ( :goodposting: Strikeforce tonight, good Bellator event tomorrow with Hornbuckle, and then TUF finale Saturday) finish up. The big question I have is where the line will go. You figure Carwin was an underdog to Mir, and was all the way up until the fight the money was coming in on Mir. I have to think the public money comes in on Lesnar so that line may even get better.

And Sheer, you still real high on Hammill? I hate to bet against Jardine, but i put down a bit on Hammill and I want to make sure my money is in the right spot. jardine is very hard to predict, but his getting KO'd by Bader makes me think hammill may be able to hurt Jardine. I think Hammill can probably take him down and do some nice GNP as well

 
I agree that if Zaromskis plays it safe he should have the speed and cardio to outlast Santos, but the guy doesn't really seem to want to do anything except go hell for leather, full speed ahead. I don't know that MZ has the chin to stand and slug with Santos like Manhoef did, but he's probably going to try anyway.
Yeah, pretty much the only reason I don't have complete faith in Marius. He hasn't shown a whole lot of patience thus far, and turning it into a scrap is Cyborg's best bet. Still think Marius comes out on top, though.
 
good Bellator event tomorrow with Hornbuckle
Thoughts on this fight? Gut tells me Hornbuckle, but you can't ever count out wrestlers the caliber of Askren.
Everything in the world tells me Hornbuckle, but in the back of my head i know there is a chance for Askren to lay and pray for the entire fight. Hornbuckle has some slick submissions from his back, and all Askren brings to the table is top wrestling. His wrestling is very impressive, but really his only chance is to lay and pray for every round. I can't figure out for the life of me why the line is Hornbuckle -140 right now, and i am trying to figure out why i shouldn't put a boatload on Hornbuckle at this point.
 
UFC pulled their SLC event. I understand White's position but unwise to have it on Sunday in the first place. Was looking forward to going.

 
The commentating for strikeforce is pretty horrible. We have discussed this a few times, and i will take Miletich over Shamrock, but i can't figure out why Mauro and Quadros are as bad as they are with this. i think my biggest complaint is that they can not objective with their commentating. Pretty bad when your color commentator (Miletich) seems to be the objective source.

EDIT: and Huen is a dope. I put money on him at +300 and added some more on when he was +475, and this guy should be winning the fight. instead the goofball has only attempted one takedown. The thing that gets me with these guys is how their corners are not able to work with them to fight a little bit smarter. You don't need Huen to lay and pray, but why not get him to attempe one or 2 takedowns at a certain point. I may add more to Lawlor thinking he has this same mindset.

EDIT 2: i want to say that the commentary seemed better after the firts fight. Not great, but it was better so maybe the guys needed to get themselves comfortable.

 
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Thank you guys for the discussion on Cyborg vs. Zaromskis. I put a little on Cyborg after huen lost and it helped out quite a bit. FUnny, because i remember Cyborg to be much more of a "joke" in terms of a skilled fighter could always beat him. He has a lot more control then i remember from him, and he fights a lot smarter. I noticed it in his last fight (i think against Villesanor) he looked pretty good, and he looked really sharp tonight

 
whew, thank you Robbie training something new and avoiding getting choked. :yes: . I was not sure if he trained anything besides working on a heavy bag and looking to throw punches

and Yuck with the new patient Babalu. C'mon buddy, come out swinging

 
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whew, thank you Robbie training something new and avoiding getting choked. :shock: . I was not sure if he trained anything besides working on a heavy bag and looking to throw punchesand Yuck with the new patient Babalu. C'mon buddy, come out swinging
:yes:
 
whew, thank you Robbie training something new and avoiding getting choked. :) . I was not sure if he trained anything besides working on a heavy bag and looking to throw punchesand Yuck with the new patient Babalu. C'mon buddy, come out swinging
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babalu looks pretty good. I think he hurt Robbie with that one kick, and Robbie needs to wake up a little bit to not lose this fight
 
Solid round from Babalu. Love the diversity he's showing with his strikes.

PS. I get the feeling Lawler's ribs were hurt by that one kick early in the second.

 
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Solid round from Babalu. Love the diversity he's showing with his strikes.PS. I get the feeling Lawler's ribs were hurt by that one kick early in the second.
it will be close. I think Miletich is pretty accurate with his call, I was thinking possible draw.Not sure how every judge saw it in favor of babalu. He won round 2,round 1 was either way, and i can't see how they could give round 3 to Babalu. but oh well, onto Bellator tomorrow. And Abrantes, i definately think you are right, Lawlor looked lazy as hell out there at times, but i think that kick in the second did some significant damamge to Robbie
 
Solid round from Babalu. Love the diversity he's showing with his strikes.

PS. I get the feeling Lawler's ribs were hurt by that one kick early in the second.
it will be close. I think Miletich is pretty accurate with his call, I was thinking possible draw.Not sure how every judge saw it in favor of babalu. He won round 2,round 1 was either way, and i can't see how they could give round 3 to Babalu. but oh well, onto Bellator tomorrow.

And Abrantes, i definately think you are right, Lawlor looked lazy as hell out there at times, but i think that kick in the second did some significant damamge to Robbie
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pretty sweet event overall, I thought.

- Conor Heun looked pretty good actually for taking the fight on short notice.

- Zaromskis is entertaining with his range of striking skills, but the guy is just too small to fight at 170 consistently. Both Diaz and Cyborg made him look tiny by comparison.

- I had it 29-28 for Babalu in the last fight. Lawler's movement got really awkward after those leg kicks in the first round - seemed like maybe his legs got hurt again or something (and that bruise on his ribs was gnarly).

 
pretty sweet event overall, I thought.- Conor Heun looked pretty good actually for taking the fight on short notice.- Zaromskis is entertaining with his range of striking skills, but the guy is just too small to fight at 170 consistently. Both Diaz and Cyborg made him look tiny by comparison.- I had it 29-28 for Babalu in the last fight. Lawler's movement got really awkward after those leg kicks in the first round - seemed like maybe his legs got hurt again or something (and that bruise on his ribs was gnarly).
i agree it was a pretty good event, and i think Strikeforce has a good idea with putting on the mid-week cards. they obviously couln't beat a free UFC card this weekend. i would like to see them go with an east coast bias and not start the card at 11 EST, but oh well.And congrats to the Babalu backers. It looked like Robbie got some good shots in, and Babalu held up pretty well, and avoided taking them on directly. I'm not sure how Babalu will do against Dan Henderson or King Mo, but i'm pretty sure my money will be on Hendo and Mo
 
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The commentating for strikeforce is pretty horrible. We have discussed this a few times, and i will take Miletich over Shamrock, but i can't figure out why Mauro and Quadros are as bad as they are with this. i think my biggest complaint is that they can not objective with their commentating. Pretty bad when your color commentator (Miletich) seems to be the objective source.EDIT: and Huen is a dope. I put money on him at +300 and added some more on when he was +475, and this guy should be winning the fight. instead the goofball has only attempted one takedown. The thing that gets me with these guys is how their corners are not able to work with them to fight a little bit smarter. You don't need Huen to lay and pray, but why not get him to attempe one or 2 takedowns at a certain point. I may add more to Lawlor thinking he has this same mindset.EDIT 2: i want to say that the commentary seemed better after the firts fight. Not great, but it was better so maybe the guys needed to get themselves comfortable.
Miletich would be a very good color guy if he cared. He still mispronounces Brazilian's names, seriously how can you still call Shogun Rue-ahhh, and doesn't look comfortable behind the mic. Shamrock is awful, he obviously doesn't care about the sport, I think he said on HDnet's Inside MMA that he doesn't watch MMA but would rather watch boxing. Mauro is good when he is not trying to sell the sport, shill for the organization, or tries to be entertaining. He was much better in PRIDE because oftentimes didn't feel the need to oversell the product. Quadros has similar issues.Sean Wheelock and Jimmy Smith in Bellator are easily the best commentary team in MMA. Regarding Carwin - Lesnar, I don't think power is that big of a concern. While I don't doubt that Carwin hits harder than Lesnar, I think Lesnar hits hard enough that neither guy can take a shot from each other. Carwin may KO Lesnar if he lands cleanly, but if Lesnar lands, Carwin will get rocked, put on his back, and pounded out. Either way, I think that Greg Jackson will have Shane try to fight this one from the clinch and utilize dirty boxing to nullify Lesnar's length and speed advantages. Pretty sure that more public money will come in on Lesnar the closer we get to the fight. A few sound bytes of training partners saying "Lesnar is much faster and stronger after that surgery" and how much bigger he will look than Carwin at the weigh ins should drive the line to Lesnar -200 or soAs for the TUF finale, the biggest factor for these guys is where they train after the show. Cort looked much better than McCray during the show, but if McCray went and trained at an ATT or AKA and Cort went to a smaller local gym, McCray should probably be the favorite.
 
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As for the TUF finale, the biggest factor for these guys is where they train after the show. Cort looked much better than McCray during the show, but if McCray went and trained at an ATT or AKA and Cort went to a smaller local gym, McCray should probably be the favorite.
i know Court went and trained with Chuck at "the Pit" for this fight. I'm not sure about McCray but i know he didn't hear from Tito at all, and Rich Franklin called him before his fight and said if he wanted Rich to corner McCray he would after his fight against Chuck. with the other guys, i have to look more into it. I am pretty sure Noke trains with Greg Jackson.
 
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Mo,

I'm with you tonight on Hornbuckle. I just grabbed him at -155, kicking myself for not getting him at -140 this morning.

Hornbuckle trains with guys at ATT that have outwrestled Askren before. Add in the fact that Askren is also participating in a wrestling tournament this weekend so this fight is not the only thing on his mind.

I don't think Askren has the goods to finish Hornbuckle. In 15 minutes, Hornbuckle will find a way to get him to tap. If it goes to decision Askren may have more of an edge than I like because Hornbuckle will likely be working from his back all night.

Betting to win 2 units, line should be closer to -200 I think.

 
Mo,I'm with you tonight on Hornbuckle. I just grabbed him at -155, kicking myself for not getting him at -140 this morning.Hornbuckle trains with guys at ATT that have outwrestled Askren before. Add in the fact that Askren is also participating in a wrestling tournament this weekend so this fight is not the only thing on his mind.I don't think Askren has the goods to finish Hornbuckle. In 15 minutes, Hornbuckle will find a way to get him to tap. If it goes to decision Askren may have more of an edge than I like because Hornbuckle will likely be working from his back all night.Betting to win 2 units, line should be closer to -200 I think.
i got it at -160 a week or 2 thinking it would definately get closer to that -200. We'll see, Askren started by not even trying any stand-up at all, committing 100% to the takedown. got him eventually, so we'll seeedit: a little concerned about the home field advantage for Askren. There isn't much MMA in Missourri, so who knows what the judges will do. I'm committed to Hornbuckle at this point, so we'll seeedit2: I know Hornbuckle has some good subs, but it would have been nice if he worked on his takedown defense a little bit
 
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Mo,I'm with you tonight on Hornbuckle. I just grabbed him at -155, kicking myself for not getting him at -140 this morning.Hornbuckle trains with guys at ATT that have outwrestled Askren before. Add in the fact that Askren is also participating in a wrestling tournament this weekend so this fight is not the only thing on his mind.I don't think Askren has the goods to finish Hornbuckle. In 15 minutes, Hornbuckle will find a way to get him to tap. If it goes to decision Askren may have more of an edge than I like because Hornbuckle will likely be working from his back all night.Betting to win 2 units, line should be closer to -200 I think.
:banned: I'm done betting Bellator. I honestly might be 1-10 or something betting with Bellator, i don't know what it is, something in the air or something. Thank God TUF is Saturday and WEC is Sunday so we can make some money back. and Askren is a bum. Great wrestling, but absolutely nothing else. and the difference between him and guys like Jow Warren or something is that you can see Warren has some natural athletic ability in him. Not trying to hate on Askren too much (cost me more money then i should have had on Hornbuckle), but i don't see his game evolving a whole lot. However, his grappling was far superior to Hornbuckle tonight, so if he fights guys who do not have takedown defense he can win.
 
I was actually pretty impressed with Askren this fight. He passed Hornbuckle's guard seemingly at will and he nullified any offense Hornbuckle could mount from his guard before it got started. His grappling looked better to me than someone like Joe Warren as Warren typically gets inside someones guard and defends a sub, advances to side control on the escape, allows his opponent to regain guard, defends sub, rinse, repeat.

Askren is obviously a one trick pony, but it is a really good trick.

I am really curious at to what people think about Warren in the Bellator FW tourney final. Pitbull is a better fighter, but I am pretty sure that if he doesn't catch Warren with a sub at least 2 of the judges will give Warren all 3 rounds for simply being on top, even though I'd expect Pitbull to outgrapple him from the bottom.

 
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I was actually pretty impressed with Askren this fight. He passed Hornbuckle's guard seemingly at will and he nullified any offense Hornbuckle could mount from his guard before it got started. His grappling looked better to me than someone like Joe Warren as Warren typically gets inside someones guard and defends a sub, advances to side control on the escape, allows his opponent to regain guard, defends sub, rinse, repeat.Askren is obviously a one trick pony, but it is a really good trick.
:lmao: Askren looked like a beast last night with the way he controlled Hornbuckle from start to finish. Hornbuckle got that kimura going pretty good in the second round, but other than that he wasn't able to do a damn thing.not sure that I agree that Askren's pure grappling is better than Joe Warren, exactly, but his ground and pound is definitely a lot better and he at least attempts some subs. Warren seems to have more explosive athletic ability, but from what I've seen he doesn't have any idea how to finish a fight - he's even more of a one trick pony than Askren, but like you said they're so great at what they do that they just stifle everything their opponent can throw at them.
 
I am a little hesitent with the MMA wagering after Barry and Hornbuckle, but i got these 2 in already and the lines are moving against them so i thought i would throw them up here:

Rich Attonito +110 vs. Jamie Yager - more of a bet against Yager, who has flashy stand-up, but the fact that he didn't come out for the 3rd round in TUF really makes me think he is somewhat immature and not ready for this. He has only 3 pro MMA fights under his belt. I hate basing fights off of the show because it is a horrible idea, but i think Yager has not upped his training for this fight, and Rich has enough to take the decision.

Chris Camozzi -115 vs. James Hammortree - i'm pretty sure this line has changed because i think i saw it jump to -130 last night (i haven't checked yet today) but Camozzi was impressive and is 12-3, while Hammortree is 5-1 with everything coming by 1st round KO. I think Camozzi showed he could take a beating, and looks like he has been in some wars.

Neither are that big right now, and i think i lean Attonito if i had to choose one.

Also pretty sure i will take Court McGee. I didn't realize this until the other day, but his only loss is to Jeremy Horn and he has a win over Demarcus Johnson, and i think he has beat some other promising young talent. McCray has been fighting out of Virginia and fought only on smaller cards there.

 
My Fox Sports never showed Bellator last night. It was all Lakers coverage then jumped into their "live" programming for Poker. I'm not reading the thread. Can anyone PM me a link to the Askren-Hornbuckle fight? The two sites I know don't have it up.

 
not too confident in some of these picks tonight, so i got some money on the live dogs:

Siver: .66 unit

Holst: .66 unit

Bryant .66 unit

Have a little on Cammozzi because i bet out of some of it with question marks about how his broken jaw has healed. Also have a little on Hammill, McGee and Antonito.

So final card has money on Antonito, Cammozi, Siver, Holst, Bryant, Hammill, and Mcgee. I love how i do not have a lot of confidence in this card, and i have 7 bets out there :popcorn: . I have made good money off of the TUF finales in the past though, all because of underdogs coming through. I was tempted to put a litte on Seth over Tavares as well

 
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I pushed my Attonito bet to 2u

These are @ 1u

Hamill

Hammertree (Maybe i got sucked into the jaw hype? I still like the bet!)

McGee

1/4u on these 2

Bryant and Bacynski

Mo, like you i have hit some nice underdogs in the past. I have laid off most MMA wagering (well almost all wagering) and have been just enjoying the fights, but i have some major gut calls for this card for some reason! Might as well get back in the wagering game!

Good luck all!

 
For the TUF finale, I like Hamil over Jardine and I may put something on Yager moves to about +130. Yager is a complete front runner, but rarely in MMA does the tide change and momentum switch, so I think if he can get the better of Anotinio early, he should win the fight. Even, then I'd rather a smaller wager.

What do you guys think about the WEC card? I'm liking Shalorus over Varner as Shalorus's wrestling pedigree is too good to not be able to put Varner on his back for at least 2 rounds, and I don't think Varner's guard game is good enough to sub, sweep, or get up.

 
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For the TUF finale, I like Hamil over Jardine and I may put something on Yager moves to about +130. Yager is a complete front runner, but rarely in MMA does the tide change and momentum switch, so I think if he can get the better of Anotinio early, he should win the fight. Even, then I'd rather a smaller wager.What do you guys think about the WEC card? I'm liking Shalorus over Varner as Shalorus's wrestling pedigree is too good to not be able to put Varner on his back for at least 2 rounds, and I don't think Varner's guard game is good enough to sub, sweep, or get up.
I haven't looked into the WEC card too much. I think i may put a little on Grispi and Hominick. I know i have never like Varner, so i may join you for a little on Shalorus, i just don't know enough about him at this point
 
For the TUF finale, I like Hamil over Jardine and I may put something on Yager moves to about +130. Yager is a complete front runner, but rarely in MMA does the tide change and momentum switch, so I think if he can get the better of Anotinio early, he should win the fight. Even, then I'd rather a smaller wager.What do you guys think about the WEC card? I'm liking Shalorus over Varner as Shalorus's wrestling pedigree is too good to not be able to put Varner on his back for at least 2 rounds, and I don't think Varner's guard game is good enough to sub, sweep, or get up.
I haven't looked into the WEC card too much. I think i may put a little on Grispi and Hominick. I know i have never like Varner, so i may join you for a little on Shalorus, i just don't know enough about him at this point
Just realized that I let me dislike for Varner influence my decision here. I made too many assumptions about Shalorus' game based on his resume' as an olympic wrestler. Having watched a few of his fights online since my last post, I learned that he's fallen too in love with his striking game, and I think Varner lights him up on the feet. He definitely has the ability to put Varner on his back and win a 3 round UD, but now I think Varner out boxes him as Shalorus tries to land bombs on the feet.
 

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