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Urban Meyer - Free Agent (2 Viewers)

Tom Hagen said:
The coach skipped the team flight back to Jax to take a long weekend in Ohio while his team is 0-4.  And may have lied to the organization about why he stayed behind. Would a player be allowed to do that?  
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They were heading into a long week and that's probably what the entire organization does.  They get a couple days off, show up at their college game on Saturday, etc.  So what?

 
zed2283 said:
They were heading into a long week and that's probably what the entire organization does.  They get a couple days off, show up at their college game on Saturday, etc.  So what?
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The entire organization flew back on the team plane.  I don't have a link, but an NFL writer tweeted yesterday that the last time an NFL coach didn't fly back with his team was Parcells after Super Bowl XXXI and he never coached the Patriots again.  It is extremely unusual.

 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
When I said "not to make this political" what I meant was "please don't take this post and run with a political angle from here on, because I am not starting a political discussion". 

My point was to the morals issue at hand in the current Meyer discussion, and a statement of fact as to why what Meyer did might not be a bridge too far for Kahn, who's donations are a matter of public record. 

I believe Joe took it to mean a "no offense, but" type of statement, where someone is guaranteed to offend.

I get that, and I apologize for being unclear. 
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No. I meant do not take it political here. Full stop. 

 
Tom Hagen said:
The entire organization flew back on the team plane.  I don't have a link, but an NFL writer tweeted yesterday that the last time an NFL coach didn't fly back with his team was Parcells after Super Bowl XXXI and he never coached the Patriots again.  It is extremely unusual.
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I'm not saying it's not unusual or that he shouldn't have maybe done it differently.  But it's "hey, I'm in Ohio, why fly back when I can stay a couple of extra days?"  It happens all the time in many work situations.  Yes, I realize the NFL is different.

This entire thread (and the other) just feels like Donald Trump coaching a football team.  Yeah we get it, you don't like him.

 
zed2283 said:
I'm not saying it's not unusual or that he shouldn't have maybe done it differently.  But it's "hey, I'm in Ohio, why fly back when I can stay a couple of extra days?"  It happens all the time in many work situations.  Yes, I realize the NFL is different.

This entire thread (and the other) just feels like Donald Trump coaching a football team.  Yeah we get it, you don't like him.
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It's like explaining why a joke is funny.

Explaining why the optics look very wrong (for a team that really can't afford it) won't change your opinion on it.

Not saying you're right or wrong. It's just not an argument that can be "won".

 
Andy Dufresne said:
It's like explaining why a joke is funny.

Explaining why the optics look very wrong (for a team that really can't afford it) won't change your opinion on it.

Not saying you're right or wrong. It's just not an argument that can be "won".
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Sure, I understand.  I guess my point is everything in here seems to be overreaction.  But I get that's how it goes in the NFL and the world today.

 
Jaguars coach Urban Meyer addresses entire team at Wednesday meeting

Urban Meyer continues to attempt to dig himself out of the hole he burrowed over the weekend.

NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported that Meyer addressed his full team Wednesday to express remorse and responsibility for his actions, per a source informed of the situation.

NFL Network's Aditi Kinkhabwala adds that Meyer told his team that he's always cared about two things, his family (expressly mentioning his "wife of 37 years" Shelley) and his players.

"I embarrassed them both," he said, per Kinkhabwala.

The team meeting is the latest attempt for Meyer to make amends for his actions over the weekend. The first-year head coach did not travel home with the Jags after Thursday night's loss in Cincinnati. Instead, he stayed behind with family. Meyer was then seen at a Columbus-area bar in viral videos over the weekend, one in particular showing a woman dancing close to his lap.

Meyer said during a Wednesday press conference that he's since spoken with Jaguars owner Shad Khan three to four times about the incident.

"The message is loud and clear and I agree with (it)," Meyer said. "I met with the team Monday individually and then today. I had a very pointed conversation with them, owning the stupid mistake that I made. A job of a coach is No. 1 the health and safety of a player, No. 2 is to motivate them and bring out the greatness in them, and No. 3 is give everything possible to be successful and have a great locker room, and then get the heck out of the way. And I apologized for a distraction with this huge week coming up, especially after they made so much improvement from Week 1 to Week 4. That was the conversation."

The first-year NFL coach revealed that he'd discussed remaining in Ohio following the Bengals game "way in advance" with general manager Trent Baalke. Meyer was asked if that was an error in retrospect, particularly after he'd noted in the immediate aftermath of the loss that his locker room was heartbroken.

"Now that I've maybe thought it through, but I thought at the time it was a chance for everybody to clear their head, including myself with my family located where we were to go spend a day or two with them and then get back," he said. "Because I know I wanted them to get out of Dodge, too, and clear their heads."

Meyer added that he has not considered resigning over this saga and he has not been fined by the league office.

On Tuesday, Khan issued a rebuke of Meyer's actions, noting the coach had to "regain our trust and respect."

Meyer said during a radio interview on Tuesday night that the "conversations have been horrible" regarding the situation. He reportedly met with position groups earlier in the week but did not address the entire team. Wednesday's remarks were his first to the team as a whole.

Following those remarks, Jaguars rookie quarterback Trevor Lawrence told reporters, "He's still my head coach. I still respect him, regardless of what happens. We're a team and we figuring it out."

The coming weeks will tell whether the Jags take a step forward or Meyer's situation continues to fester behind the scenes.
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Ministry of Pain said:
Hey Joe, this has nothing to do with your post, just wanted your take on things with Meyer. 

-Do you think he should be employed right now with the Jacksonville Jaguars after what transpired starting with not flying back with the team to Jacksonville?  If you were in Khan's shoes would you release Meyer and move on? 

Cheers!
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I'd fire him already. I know you didn't ask but honestly Khan has to fire him at this point. The players called his apology etc BS and laughed him out of the room. he's lost the team already. 

 
I’ll share a story from thirty years ago. I played in a golf tourney with owner of my small company. I was rookie but played well. I wasn’t married yet, but on 19th hole he saw I flirted with our waitress. The owner of my comp was having fun with me. She came over and asked what we needed and I had been taken aback by her beauty. He ordered two pitchers of beer. Later after soaking up the suds he says, with others on our crew around, “do you know eating p#ssy can kill you?” So of course I object and ask what is wrong with that and you? The other older guys say it can. Now I’m like wtf? Laughing goes on. I said what? Really? He says… “if your wife finds out!”. 
 

He was right. 😀

 
Rumors that he has known that young woman for several months and she coaxed him to come visit so they could hang out...could be BS but we haven't heard much about who she is. 

 
Ministry of Pain said:
Rumors that he has known that young woman for several months and she coaxed him to come visit so they could hang out...could be BS but we haven't heard much about who she is. 
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Thought they revealed her name publicly? We know what a scum this guy is, would it surprise anyone he was cheating on his wife with a younger girl? 

 
isn't Doug Pederson on speed dial on Jax front office phones? you can get Pederson and Matt Patricia for DC , cheaper than a K-mart blue light special. 

somewhere,  tom coughlin is laughing his butt off 

 
Tanner9919 said:
isn't Doug Pederson on speed dial on Jax front office phones? you can get Pederson and Matt Patricia for DC , cheaper than a K-mart blue light special. 

somewhere,  tom coughlin is laughing his butt off 
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Doug said he's taking the year off. Turned down SEAs OC job according to local reports in Philly. Wants to recharge and look for a job next year. So Jags could go with an interim and hire Doug for 22'. Jags play in Phily too next year BTW. 

 
DJackson10 said:
Doug said he's taking the year off. Turned down SEAs OC job according to local reports in Philly. Wants to recharge and look for a job next year. So Jags could go with an interim and hire Doug for 22'. Jags play in Phily too next year BTW. 
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Doug would be there with a Jag visor in under an hour is Kahn called him. 

 
Insein said:
Doug would be there with a Jag visor in under an hour is Kahn called him. 
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I mean from what was reported it didn't sound like Doug was in any rush to comeback this year and seemed pretty burnt out. I mean we'll see if they even reach out but at this point it's too late to bring in a totally new staff. Just make one of the coaches an interim and see out the rest of the year. 

 
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