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US journalist James Foley beheaded by ISIS (1 Viewer)

I heard about the new video, did Obama speak out today? Is he formulating a plan? Is he consulting with the military generals? I would like some answers.
Pretty sure ISIS would as well.
Don't even think it. Roll the tapes in 1991 as the United States woke up to George Bush announcing he already took action. This President doesn't use the bathroom until he has consulted with at least a half dozen people first. He hasn't been ahead of this, not once. Sure he managed to hunt down OBL and maybe anyone who was sitting there would have gotten him but at the same time he seems to have allowed this group to assemble and get far too organized. This is going to require a lot of man power and ground troops. Wait until they get ahold of some of our boys in uniforms. This is gonna get ugly.
Whatever dude. Just like with OBL, neither you nor I nor anyone else here knows what is going on inside the Oval Office, what the discussions have been, which factors have been considered, what outside pressures there are (especially, I'm guessing, from our European allies), etc. For you to criticize Obama for inaction only speaks to your pre-existing bias against him and your ignorance. Let's see what happens.

 
I heard about the new video, did Obama speak out today? Is he formulating a plan? Is he consulting with the military generals? I would like some answers.
Pretty sure ISIS would as well.
Don't even think it. Roll the tapes in 1991 as the United States woke up to George Bush announcing he already took action. This President doesn't use the bathroom until he has consulted with at least a half dozen people first. He hasn't been ahead of this, not once. Sure he managed to hunt down OBL and maybe anyone who was sitting there would have gotten him but at the same time he seems to have allowed this group to assemble and get far too organized. This is going to require a lot of man power and ground troops. Wait until they get ahold of some of our boys in uniforms. This is gonna get ugly.
Whatever dude. Just like with OBL, neither you nor I nor anyone else here knows what is going on inside the Oval Office, what the discussions have been, which factors have been considered, what outside pressures there are (especially, I'm guessing, from our European allies), etc. For you to criticize Obama for inaction only speaks to your pre-existing bias against him and your ignorance. Let's see what happens.
Pre-exist bias=opinion based on previous actions...as long as that's the definition then we're good. Otherwise the only ignorance is your arrogance.

 
How would you describe "current strategy"?
Violent.

Over reactive and overreaching.

Almost every facet of the governments primary job is to stop and control terrorism. More Americans have died fighting wars againt terrorism than terrorists have killed. We have fought two overt wars that lasted longer than any other war in US history over terrorism, we are fighting a number of ongoing covert wars in the name of terrorism. And if that's not good enough, several people in this thread are arguing we should invade and occupy the same piece of #### country again, after the original invasion and occupation was an unmitigated failure, but at least somewhat justifiable.

1,271 government organizations and 1,931 private companies work on programs related to counterterrorism, homeland security and intelligence in about 10,000 locations across the United States.

An estimated 854,000 people, nearly 1.5 times as many people as live in Washington, D.C., hold top-secret security clearances.

In Washington and the surrounding area, 33 building complexes for top-secret intelligence work are under construction or have been built since September 2001. Together they occupy the equivalent of almost three Pentagons or 22 U.S. Capitol buildings - about 17 million square feet of space.

Many security and intelligence agencies do the same work, creating redundancy and waste. For example, 51 federal organizations and military commands, operating in 15 U.S. cities, track the flow of money to and from terrorist networks.

Analysts who make sense of documents and conversations obtained by foreign and domestic spying share their judgment by publishing 50,000 intelligence reports each year - a volume so large that many are routinely ignored.
Americans rights are routinely violated, in the name of safety. For many years in a row you are more likely to be killed by furniture than by a terrorist. Perhaps its time to dial it back some.

 
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I heard about the new video, did Obama speak out today? Is he formulating a plan? Is he consulting with the military generals? I would like some answers.
Pretty sure ISIS would as well.
Don't even think it. Roll the tapes in 1991 as the United States woke up to George Bush announcing he already took action. This President doesn't use the bathroom until he has consulted with at least a half dozen people first. He hasn't been ahead of this, not once. Sure he managed to hunt down OBL and maybe anyone who was sitting there would have gotten him but at the same time he seems to have allowed this group to assemble and get far too organized. This is going to require a lot of man power and ground troops. Wait until they get ahold of some of our boys in uniforms. This is gonna get ugly.
:confused: Iraq invaded Kuwait in Aug 1990. The US announced a counter attack in Jan. 1991.

 
I heard about the new video, did Obama speak out today? Is he formulating a plan? Is he consulting with the military generals? I would like some answers.
Pretty sure ISIS would as well.
Don't even think it. Roll the tapes in 1991 as the United States woke up to George Bush announcing he already took action. This President doesn't use the bathroom until he has consulted with at least a half dozen people first. He hasn't been ahead of this, not once. Sure he managed to hunt down OBL and maybe anyone who was sitting there would have gotten him but at the same time he seems to have allowed this group to assemble and get far too organized. This is going to require a lot of man power and ground troops. Wait until they get ahold of some of our boys in uniforms. This is gonna get ugly.
:confused: Iraq invaded Kuwait in Aug 1990. The US announced a counter attack in Jan. 1991.
Most critics of Obama in foreign policy situations have a very short memory. 2009, to be exact.

 
I haven't had the energy to really get into what's going with ISIS. I'm assuming this #######s are being supported by the rulers of various countries including our "friends" the Saudis.

What a disaster that part of the world is. Same story over and over again just change the names. Of course we'll be drawn in at some level and just spawn a whole new bunch of crazy people.

 
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I heard about the new video, did Obama speak out today? Is he formulating a plan? Is he consulting with the military generals? I would like some answers.
Pretty sure ISIS would as well.
Don't even think it. Roll the tapes in 1991 as the United States woke up to George Bush announcing he already took action. This President doesn't use the bathroom until he has consulted with at least a half dozen people first. He hasn't been ahead of this, not once. Sure he managed to hunt down OBL and maybe anyone who was sitting there would have gotten him but at the same time he seems to have allowed this group to assemble and get far too organized. This is going to require a lot of man power and ground troops. Wait until they get ahold of some of our boys in uniforms. This is gonna get ugly.
:confused: Iraq invaded Kuwait in Aug 1990. The US announced a counter attack in Jan. 1991.
Most critics of Obama in foreign policy situations have a very short memory. 2009, to be exact.
You both are being obtuse.

Tim or whoever/whatever defends Obama by implying that Obama can't say much because the mad professor is in the lab cooking up the counter attack here. And we don't want ISIS to know what we are doing...all I was saying is when you want to strike and then let everyone know what you did, simply roll the Bush tapes from 1991 to see how its done. It was not handled the way things are being handled right now. Twitter would have given away our location back in '91 I guess.

1st of all, am I to believe that we don't already have troops and military in the general area? Would it really be a pain to have a major offensive ready to strike or are we supposed to believe this caught Obama and the White House by surprise? They said they didn't have a plan and I thought they were kidding.

But even more disturbing is the entire media coverage of lack of it. Missouri riots and they can't stop watching meanwhile a much bigger problem is rising and it just seems to get glossed over or at least no one seems to be asking the tough questions.

 
I haven't had the energy to really get into what's going with ISIS. I'm assuming this #######s are being supported by the rulers of various countries including our "friends" the Saudis.

What a disaster that part of the world is. Same story over and over again just change the names. Of course we'll be drawn in at some level and just spawn a whole new bunch of crazy people.
Nothing you are saying is untrue, not a single word. However i don't believe we should allow them to be the only voice on the internet or youtube. Maybe we should release those OBL photos and remind those guys what eventually will happen to them.

 
What's the over/under on ISIS pulling off something bigger than 9/11? A multi-city explosion at once with rogue cells already in this country? How real is that threat? Because not many folks, no one in my circles of friends ever spoke about a possible 9/11. Even after the WTC bombing in the 90s most folks still didn't see anything like 9/11 on the horizon.

 
What's the over/under on ISIS pulling off something bigger than 9/11? A multi-city explosion at once with rogue cells already in this country? How real is that threat? Because not many folks, no one in my circles of friends ever spoke about a possible 9/11. Even after the WTC bombing in the 90s most folks still didn't see anything like 9/11 on the horizon.
The difference is that Al Qaeda was purely a terrorist organization while ISIS wants to create an Islamic caliphate. They aren't going to attack the U.S. directly and are doing these beheadings as a way of spreading fear to the people they hope to take over ("If they will do that to Americans, imagine what they'll do to us regular Middle Eastern people").

 
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I haven't had the energy to really get into what's going with ISIS. I'm assuming this #######s are being supported by the rulers of various countries including our "friends" the Saudis.

What a disaster that part of the world is. Same story over and over again just change the names. Of course we'll be drawn in at some level and just spawn a whole new bunch of crazy people.
ISIS scares the crap out of the Saudis. The key aspect of Wahhabism that gets Saudi support is "One Ruler, One Authority, One Mosque" and ISIS is opposed to the Saudis.

I also don't believe they are being supported by other Islamic countries since they pose a threat to all of them as their goal is to unite all Muslims into one caliphate.

 
step 1: invade iraq (again)

step 2: knock on doors looking for isis (who doesnt like foreign soldiers knocking on your door and searching your house)

step 3: ???

step 4: freedom (until they vote for someone we dont like then we go back to step 1)
You are such a coward, with your snarky bull####. Ever heard of using intelligence before planning a mission..? Do think our soldiers would just go knocking on random doors? These people are evil, they are killing children, they need to be stopped. Obama should have already had a conference with our allies and a plan with them to stop this evil. It isnt about politics bagger, its about good vs evil.
As I pointed out a bit earlier we just wrapped up over a decade of having a large scale military deployment over there spending at least a Trillion dollars in Iraq alone, probably much more than that when you consider total costs to our economy. Even at the post-surge levels we weren't particularly successful at controlling the violence until we paid the Sunni militias to stop fighting.

No one disputes we could rout 30 or 50 thousand ISIS militia if they sit out on a battlefield for us, including them. If we deploy they are likely to go back into local terrorist mode, hiding out, dropping IEDs and sending out suicide bombers. Eventually we'll leave and they'll go right back out into the relative open again.

I get the urge to want to hurt them, and we should. We just need to figure out how to do that in a way that promotes a long-term solution as opposed to us playing World Police, which we know won't do anything but cosmetically address the problem and cost us a massive amount of money.
#### money. Take as much oil as we need to pay for it. Exterminate these bugs, no matter what it takes. Yes, they are cowards and will hide and resort to terrorism. Should that stop our resolve? No.
You tell em Cowboy. Don't go callin me a coward. I'll personally ride a nuke down, firing off my two 6-shooters, all the way into one of their Muslim, god-hating, America hating, baseball hating, BBQ hating rat holes.
Yeah Im a "cowboy" for wanting our world leaders to stop evil pricks from decaptating children.. A regular John Wayne..

 
I haven't had the energy to really get into what's going with ISIS. I'm assuming this #######s are being supported by the rulers of various countries including our "friends" the Saudis.

What a disaster that part of the world is. Same story over and over again just change the names. Of course we'll be drawn in at some level and just spawn a whole new bunch of crazy people.
ISIS scares the crap out of the Saudis. The key aspect of Wahhabism that gets Saudi support is "One Ruler, One Authority, One Mosque" and ISIS is opposed to the Saudis.

I also don't believe they are being supported by other Islamic countries since they pose a threat to all of them as their goal is to unite all Muslims into one caliphate.
If this is correct then where are these people? If this stuff was happening with some bat#### fringe group in our backyard the other 98% of the population would be out hunting these jackasses down. US influence and all the things we do which create hostility and ill will against us should only carry our burden so far.

 
I haven't had the energy to really get into what's going with ISIS. I'm assuming this #######s are being supported by the rulers of various countries including our "friends" the Saudis.

What a disaster that part of the world is. Same story over and over again just change the names. Of course we'll be drawn in at some level and just spawn a whole new bunch of crazy people.
ISIS scares the crap out of the Saudis. The key aspect of Wahhabism that gets Saudi support is "One Ruler, One Authority, One Mosque" and ISIS is opposed to the Saudis.

I also don't believe they are being supported by other Islamic countries since they pose a threat to all of them as their goal is to unite all Muslims into one caliphate.
If this is correct then where are these people? If this stuff was happening with some bat#### fringe group in our backyard the other 98% of the population would be out hunting these jackasses down. US influence and all the things we do which create hostility and ill will against us should only carry our burden so far.
They're quiet because they're terrified of their own populations, especially their young. That's one of the problems when you have dictatorships and refuse to spend any money educating your poor people, or helping them in any way.
 
I am glad Biden and Obama are taking a stand against ISIS but they should not make it sound like they are going after "the Warriors".

 
Fortunately this Bagdadi guy has killed off those that he didn't fully trust. Saves us some work. Now all we need to do is kill him and his inner circle and the rest of the cockroaches will wander off.

 
How would you describe "current strategy"?
Violent.

Over reactive and overreaching.

Almost every facet of the governments primary job is to stop and control terrorism. More Americans have died fighting wars againt terrorism than terrorists have killed. We have fought two overt wars that lasted longer than any other war in US history over terrorism, we are fighting a number of ongoing covert wars in the name of terrorism. And if that's not good enough, several people in this thread are arguing we should invade and occupy the same piece of #### country again, after the original invasion and occupation was an unmitigated failure, but at least somewhat justifiable.

1,271 government organizations and 1,931 private companies work on programs related to counterterrorism, homeland security and intelligence in about 10,000 locations across the United States.

An estimated 854,000 people, nearly 1.5 times as many people as live in Washington, D.C., hold top-secret security clearances.

In Washington and the surrounding area, 33 building complexes for top-secret intelligence work are under construction or have been built since September 2001. Together they occupy the equivalent of almost three Pentagons or 22 U.S. Capitol buildings - about 17 million square feet of space.

Many security and intelligence agencies do the same work, creating redundancy and waste. For example, 51 federal organizations and military commands, operating in 15 U.S. cities, track the flow of money to and from terrorist networks.

Analysts who make sense of documents and conversations obtained by foreign and domestic spying share their judgment by publishing 50,000 intelligence reports each year - a volume so large that many are routinely ignored.
Americans rights are routinely violated, in the name of safety. For many years in a row you are more likely to be killed by furniture than by a terrorist. Perhaps its time to dial it back some.
logic.
 
What's the over/under on ISIS pulling off something bigger than 9/11? A multi-city explosion at once with rogue cells already in this country? How real is that threat? Because not many folks, no one in my circles of friends ever spoke about a possible 9/11. Even after the WTC bombing in the 90s most folks still didn't see anything like 9/11 on the horizon.
are your circle of friends in the CIA?Nobody cares if joe Bob down at the piggly wiggly knows or doesn't know what terrorists may be up to.

 
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What's the over/under on ISIS pulling off something bigger than 9/11? A multi-city explosion at once with rogue cells already in this country? How real is that threat? Because not many folks, no one in my circles of friends ever spoke about a possible 9/11. Even after the WTC bombing in the 90s most folks still didn't see anything like 9/11 on the horizon.
are your circle of friends in the CIA?Nobody cares if joe Bob down at the piggly wiggly knows or doesn't know what terrorists may be up to.
FWIW, Tom Clancy wrote a novel in 1994 about a scenario where a foreign pilot crashes his plane into the Capitol Building: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debt_of_Honor

 
I haven't been reading through the whole thread but the last couple pages seem to be filled with groaning that there aren’t any concrete plans… when, in reality, there are simply no “good” plans for a very bad situation. Following are just a few reasons why this is indeed an extraordinary situation there can’t simply be a golden 2-step “plan” wrapped in a ribbon that solves everything:

  • We are not simply dealing with a pitched battle inside a single country – we’re dealing with enemy combatants that span multiple countries.
  • We have no actionable intelligence inside Syria (to my knowledge) that can call for bombardment strikes at points x, y, and z.
  • We have no PARTNER on whom we can depend upon in Syria for intelligence or as a political entity that can fill the vacuum should we be able identify points x, y, and z to defeat IS – this is the opinion of our military and intelligence agencies.
  • We have various allies in the vicinity for whom any action (or inaction) could have hugely negative short- and long-term consequences such as Israel, Jordan, and, yes, Saudi Arabia (cstu is correct).
  • We are dealing with this when there is a HOT sectarian war occurring between multiple proxies spanning the region.
  • We are dealing with this when the, thankfully, ex-PM of Iraq has put Iraq on the edge of breaking apart (if that process hasn’t already started long ago).
What would you do?

 
If this stuff was happening with some bat#### fringe group in our backyard the other 98% of the population would be out hunting these jackasses down.
Well, it's a good thing there are no gangs of violent #######s beheading their enemies and conducting mass public executions of anyone that stands in their way in our part of the world.

 
If this stuff was happening with some bat#### fringe group in our backyard the other 98% of the population would be out hunting these jackasses down.
Well, it's a good thing there are no gangs of violent #######s beheading their enemies and conducting mass public executions of anyone that stands in their way in our part of the world.
If we step in we'll inevitably make more enemies, if we do nothing we are screwed as well. Would be nice to see governments where this is actually happening handle their own ####. How about Europe. Anyone else want to jump in this #### show?

 
I have watched both of these videos and they look like fakes to me. The dude moves the small knife back & forth on there throats like 4-5 times and there is no blood, then thy don't even show the rest of it. They have shown them in the past, so why have they all of a sudden started censoring their videos?

Now I am not saying that these guys weren't beheaded, but I don't think it happened at the moment it was being filmed. Also, the guys that were beheaded remained remarkably calm the entire time. They usually try and resist at the last minute, so that one guy wouldn't of been able to hold them. Also, nobody is yelling "Allah Akbar", but the second one I just saw had no sound, so I'm not 100 if they did not.

I mentioned it before, but they may have had several staged fake beheadings they participated in, and this could of been one. Then, they did the real beheading at another time.
Not sure what difference this really makes, but whatever.
 
These guys really going to try to dethrone Putin? They have one super power mad at them (USA), they are tickling another (Russia) and I think they have China on their radar as well. These guys must be pretty dumb because if all three of the above along with one or two other European nations can actually focus and discuss things without getting their panties in a bunch... this ISIS/ISIL group can be taken care of in a weekend and be resting to watch Funniest Home Videos.

 
I haven't been reading through the whole thread but the last couple pages seem to be filled with groaning that there aren’t any concrete plans… when, in reality, there are simply no “good” plans for a very bad situation. Following are just a few reasons why this is indeed an extraordinary situation there can’t simply be a golden 2-step “plan” wrapped in a ribbon that solves everything:

  • We are not simply dealing with a pitched battle inside a single country – we’re dealing with enemy combatants that span multiple countries.
  • We have no actionable intelligence inside Syria (to my knowledge) that can call for bombardment strikes at points x, y, and z.
  • We have no PARTNER on whom we can depend upon in Syria for intelligence or as a political entity that can fill the vacuum should we be able identify points x, y, and z to defeat IS – this is the opinion of our military and intelligence agencies.
  • We have various allies in the vicinity for whom any action (or inaction) could have hugely negative short- and long-term consequences such as Israel, Jordan, and, yes, Saudi Arabia (cstu is correct).
  • We are dealing with this when there is a HOT sectarian war occurring between multiple proxies spanning the region.
  • We are dealing with this when the, thankfully, ex-PM of Iraq has put Iraq on the edge of breaking apart (if that process hasn’t already started long ago).
What would you do?
I'd do what every conservative talk show host is doing: I'd blame Obama!!

 
Anybody think Biden screaming today that they will "follow ISIS to the gates of hell" to catch them was a bit awkward? They wouldn't even cross the border in Syria to get them.

 
Anybody think Biden screaming today that they will "follow ISIS to the gates of hell" to catch them was a bit awkward? They wouldn't even cross the border in Syria to get them.
Hearing that compared to the statement obama made and it seems like they are on different paths. Like Biden is trying to seperate himself from Obama. 16 is coming up quick.
 
Are the guys that are getting beheaded drugged ? they seem so passive during the time that they are talking and even when the ISIS guy starts sawing the head off...i dont get it

 
What's the over/under on ISIS pulling off something bigger than 9/11? A multi-city explosion at once with rogue cells already in this country? How real is that threat? Because not many folks, no one in my circles of friends ever spoke about a possible 9/11. Even after the WTC bombing in the 90s most folks still didn't see anything like 9/11 on the horizon.
I think somebody sees something, my step son is a Harrier pilot with the Marines...he called yesterday to say that his base is being over run by F-18's, he says those are never at his base but as of yesterday 30 flew in....stay tuned

 
Not sure if this is the place for this but it appears ISIS has now threatened to liberate Chechnya and Caucasis pretty much directly spitting in Putin's face.

On one hand, that seems like a terrible idea, given Putin has shown he doesn't give two ####s about the world thinks, and if he feels something is in Russia's best interests, he will do it. Directly sticking a finger in his eye over lands he's made it very clear he intends to keep seems somewhat suicidal.

On the OTHER hand, from what i understand ISIS seems to be benefitting from an influx of battle hardened fighters from the region, and could be a recruiting ploy as much as anything else.

Chechen leader Kadyrov throws out a "better slow your roll, fellas" :lol:

 
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What's the over/under on ISIS pulling off something bigger than 9/11? A multi-city explosion at once with rogue cells already in this country? How real is that threat? Because not many folks, no one in my circles of friends ever spoke about a possible 9/11. Even after the WTC bombing in the 90s most folks still didn't see anything like 9/11 on the horizon.
I think somebody sees something, my step son is a Harrier pilot with the Marines...he called yesterday to say that his base is being over run by F-18's, he says those are never at his base but as of yesterday 30 flew in....stay tuned
I know you prob can't give details but is his base stateside over overseas?

 
Not sure if this is the place for this but it appears ISIS has now threatened to liberate Chechnya and Caucasis pretty much directly spitting in Putin's face.

On one hand, that seems like a terrible idea, given Putin has shown he doesn't give two ####s about the world thinks, and if he feels something is in Russia's best interests, he will do it. Directly sticking a finger in his eye over lands he's made it very clear he intends to keep seems somewhat suicidal.

On the OTHER hand, from what i understand ISIS seems to be benefitting from an influx of battle hardened fighters from the region, and could be a recruiting ploy as much as anything else.

Chechen leader Kadyrov throws out a "better slow your roll, fellas" :lol:
Kadyrov, a close ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, went on an Instagram rant
:lmao:

 
What's the over/under on ISIS pulling off something bigger than 9/11? A multi-city explosion at once with rogue cells already in this country? How real is that threat? Because not many folks, no one in my circles of friends ever spoke about a possible 9/11. Even after the WTC bombing in the 90s most folks still didn't see anything like 9/11 on the horizon.
I think somebody sees something, my step son is a Harrier pilot with the Marines...he called yesterday to say that his base is being over run by F-18's, he says those are never at his base but as of yesterday 30 flew in....stay tuned
I know you prob can't give details but is his base stateside over overseas?
Stateside
 
These guys really going to try to dethrone Putin? They have one super power mad at them (USA), they are tickling another (Russia) and I think they have China on their radar as well. These guys must be pretty dumb because if all three of the above along with one or two other European nations can actually focus and discuss things without getting their panties in a bunch... this ISIS/ISIL group can be taken care of in a weekend and be resting to watch Funniest Home Videos.
It's worked for them so far. At some point they are going to overplay their hand but until then they are going to do what has worked.

 
Chechen leader Kadyrov throws out a "better slow your roll, fellas" :lol:
"I want to remind everyone who is planning something against our country, that Russia has worthy sons, ready to fulfill any order, wring the neck of any enemy in his own lair, wherever he may be," Kadyrov wrote. "And we find ourselves with happiness ridding the world of these scum."

:thumbup:

 
I want to see us drop a nuke..I think it is long overdue...I'm not talking about dropping it on a populated area....Just one of those ISIS terrorist camps.....Kind of like a wake up bombing...We used to test these in our own desert all of the time....I think the world has forgotten the devastation we have at our finger tips...We used to be feared, we need to get back to that....Why have these and why spend billions on them, if we won't use them and get the desired effect they were designed for...Get Russia on board and let them drop one over there as well...

 
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Would be entertaining to hand Putin our Intel (superior in the region from my limited knowledge) and let him cut loose on ISIS.

I want to see us drop a nuke..I think it is long overdue...I'm not talking about dropping it on a populated area....Just one of those ISIS terrorist camps.....Kind of like a wake up bombing...We used to test these in our own desert all of the time....I think the world has forgotten the devastation we have at our finger tips...We used to be feared, we need to get back to that....Why have these and why spend billions on them, if we won't use them and get the desired effect they were designed for...Get Russia on board and let them drop one over there as well...
As long as israel doesn't join in the reindeer games... :lmao:

 
Begin titles with Putin peddling along on a trike shoddily made to look like a bear to the tune of Ride of the Valkeries. No shirt. Cut to Obama cruising down the highway in a tricked-out golf cart with his clubs still on the back, drinking a beer, smoking a joint, and listening to CCR. They arrive in [icon]'s bunker to discuss procrastinating doing anything about ISIS, which they believe to be either a group of violent Muslim extremists or an indie rock band from Portland. Obama gets a message alert and it is a link to the Fappening. They spend the next three hours waiting for a new batch of pictures to be posted, drafting Putin's first PPR league team, and occasionally touching on what to do about Portland.
 
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Not sure if this is the place for this but it appears ISIS has now threatened to liberate Chechnya and Caucasis pretty much directly spitting in Putin's face.

On one hand, that seems like a terrible idea, given Putin has shown he doesn't give two ####s about the world thinks, and if he feels something is in Russia's best interests, he will do it. Directly sticking a finger in his eye over lands he's made it very clear he intends to keep seems somewhat suicidal.

On the OTHER hand, from what i understand ISIS seems to be benefitting from an influx of battle hardened fighters from the region, and could be a recruiting ploy as much as anything else.

Chechen leader Kadyrov throws out a "better slow your roll, fellas" :lol:
Kadyrov, a close ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, went on an Instagram rant
:lmao:
Beat me to it.

 

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