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Chaos Commish
Footballguy
Let's call these numbers very unofficial. They're second hand from an obscure USC/Rivals message board.
Reggie Bush
Bench - 24 reps
Broad - 10'8"
Verticle - 40.5"
40 - 4.33
eta: The same numbers are now at KFFL, NFLDraftCountdown, and a Texans message board.
Reggie Bush
Bench - 24 reps
Broad - 10'8"
Verticle - 40.5"
40 - 4.33
eta: The same numbers are now at KFFL, NFLDraftCountdown, and a Texans message board.
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Chaos Commish
Footballguy
None of the numbers would surprise me, but all of them together areIf those are true...
He's a powerhouse in the weightroom. Tomlinsons said as much when they were working out together last summer. He jumps like a kangaroo on the football field. I have no doubt he is significantly faster than Maurice Drew.
Dave Baker
Damn glad to meet you
Wow. Eye popping.
Blackjacks
Footballguy
Holy crap
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
I hesitated to post that, because it's all coming from message boards, but I guess someone "there" phoned the #s in to whoever posted them first (I think the Texans message board was first).
These numbers could be bogus.
These numbers could be bogus.
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
Nothing on cone or shuttle.]
Still sketchy sources.
LenDale White will not workout. Sore hammy.
Leinart 37" vert.
Bing 4.53 40 after a slow start gave him a 4.63 on his first attempt...
Still sketchy sources.
LenDale White will not workout. Sore hammy.
Leinart 37" vert.
Bing 4.53 40 after a slow start gave him a 4.63 on his first attempt...
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
He's a beast.His vertical was 35 at the Combine.
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Chaos Commish
Footballguy
The numbers all seem valid. Scout.com is reporting the same.
Dominique Byrd 16 reps, 36" verticle, 9'8" broad
Taitusi Lutui 26 reps, 32" verticle, 8'6" broad
Fred Matua 25 reps, 30" verticle, 8'7" broad
Bush's 40 times - 4.33 & 4.37
Dominique Byrd 16 reps, 36" verticle, 9'8" broad
Taitusi Lutui 26 reps, 32" verticle, 8'6" broad
Fred Matua 25 reps, 30" verticle, 8'7" broad
Bush's 40 times - 4.33 & 4.37
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
LenDale White 15 reps and skipped the rest of workouts.
Maroney=Speed
Footballguy
He doesn't have much time to heal up that hammie before the draft. I wonder if this drops him?
ILoveMyLions
Footballguy
Only 15 reps of bench for a 230 pound back?
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
Byrd's 40s 4.81 and 4.79
He's having a disappointing day.
He's having a disappointing day.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
Wow...been doing spring projects outside all day, came in and saw these numbers.
...Houston is no doubt going to start contract negotations tomorrow 
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
Justice cramped up and didn't finish the 40.
David Dodds
Administrator
If these numbers hold up, they are truly amazing. Any one of them would be great. Together ther are outstanding. I don't think anyone has ever done 24 reps on the bench with his speed and jumping ability. Those things are usually mutually exclusive.Wow...been doing spring projects outside all day, came in and saw these numbers.
jurb26
Footballguy
He is still too small and fragile though... built like a WR and cant make it at the next level as an every down RB.....If these numbers hold up, they are truly amazing. Any one of them would be great. Together ther are outstanding. I don't think anyone has ever done 24 reps on the bench with his speed and jumping ability. Those things are usually mutually exclusive.Wow...been doing spring projects outside all day, came in and saw these numbers.
Donnybrook
Footballguy
To top it all off, some working stiff reporter is going to have to buy a soon to be millionaire, Bush, a steak dinner.
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
from nfl.com
Does the bold mean Reggie's time is really a 4.25??
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
It's odd that there's nothing on shuttle or cone drills.
ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
Do you by any chance have Tomlinson's?
milfordshane
Footballguy
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
His 40s were 4.38 and 4.42. He weighed 205 pounds at the time. I have to look up the other stuff. Not sure if it's still posted.
BELIEVE.THE.HYPE.
milfordshane
Footballguy
What about Justice 6-6¼, 320 with 39'' vert and 38 reps. That is simply amazing.
Weiner Dog
Footballguy
If Leinhart seriously posted a 37" vert, I'd love to see who was officiating the drill.
Some comparatives that I looked up on Profootball Weekly (which just summarized combine results). These are recent "workout warriors" or highly regarded RBs that also worked out well:
Name - Reps - 40 Time - Verticle - Broad Jump
Tatum Bell - 25 - 4.37 - 38.5" - 9'9"
Ronnie Brown - 18 - 4.43 - 34" - 9'9"
Caddy Williams - 19 - 4.43 - 35.5" - 9"10"
Justin Fargas - 27 - 4.40 - N/A - 11"5'
Oh, and the incumbant
Dominick Davis - 22 - 4.63 - 32.5" - 9'4"
Just a few recent datapoints
Name - Reps - 40 Time - Verticle - Broad Jump
Tatum Bell - 25 - 4.37 - 38.5" - 9'9"
Ronnie Brown - 18 - 4.43 - 34" - 9'9"
Caddy Williams - 19 - 4.43 - 35.5" - 9"10"
Justin Fargas - 27 - 4.40 - N/A - 11"5'
Oh, and the incumbant
Dominick Davis - 22 - 4.63 - 32.5" - 9'4"
Just a few recent datapoints
EBF
Footballguy
I don't actually have them on hand, but I think he ran a 4.4 40 and jumped 41" in the VJ. I don't remember his results in the broad jump. For comparison's sake, here are the numbers from some recent top RB prospects (40 - vertical leap - broad jump):
William Green - 4.60 - 42" - 10'1"
Clinton Portis - 4.42 - 39" - N/A
Chris Brown - 4.52 - 39.5" - 10'5"
Larry Johnson - 4.43 - 41" - 10'4"
Justin Fargas - 4.35 - 40" - 11'3" (anyone wonder why I still hype this guy?)
Lee Suggs - 4.45 - 36.5" - 10'0"
Kevin Jones - 4.60 - 38" - 10'8"
Julius Jones - 4.50 - 37.5" - 10'1"
Chris Perry - 4.56 - 34.5" - 10'4"
Cadillac Williams - 4.50 - 35.5" - 9'10"
Cedric Benson - 4.61 - 33" - 9'8"
Ronnie Brown - 4.48 - 34" - 9'9"
Reggie Bush - 4.33 - 40" - 10'8"
As you can see, Bush's marks are exceptional. No one on the above list had a better 40 time. Only William Green and Larry Johnson had better vertical leaps (Fargas is tied with Bush). Only Fargas had the better broad jump (Kevin Jones tied Bush). The broad jump figure is especially impressive when you consider that Bush is only 5'11" and that, all else being equal, this drill tends to favor taller players.
What we can take from these numbers is that Reggie Bush appears to have an exceptional physical skill set to match his exceptional hype and on-field performance. He posted elite marks in every drill, suggesting that he is exceptionally explosive.
so does this put justice in top 10...
assuming davis was off the board, & ARI is on the clock & cutler is available & they like him... but they like justice, too...
who do you pick if you are denny green?
or if you are DET & you could have those two plus your choice of huff...
who do you pick if you are millen...
BUF has pick of ngata, bunkley or justice...
what does marv do...
it looks like there were two beasts at the USC pro day today...
* those numbers must smoke consensus #1 OT ferguson... of course, he has them in the intangibles department... so i don't see justice leapfrogging him... but clearly this could move justice up some team's boards... i'm not sure scouts were prepared for that stupefying a workout...
assuming davis was off the board, & ARI is on the clock & cutler is available & they like him... but they like justice, too...
who do you pick if you are denny green?
or if you are DET & you could have those two plus your choice of huff...
who do you pick if you are millen...
BUF has pick of ngata, bunkley or justice...
what does marv do...
it looks like there were two beasts at the USC pro day today...
* those numbers must smoke consensus #1 OT ferguson... of course, he has them in the intangibles department... so i don't see justice leapfrogging him... but clearly this could move justice up some team's boards... i'm not sure scouts were prepared for that stupefying a workout...
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Chris Smith
The Head Goon!
If this doesn't convince folks that Bush has all the tools to be not just a good running back at the NFL level, but an elite one than nothing will.
Not only is his vision and cutting ability second to none but his workout was phenomenal and he is a hard worker to boot. I'm excited to watch him play this season. It's going to be fun.
Winston Justice is also on the path to a tremendous NFL career. He is very athletic and only needs a little refining in his technique to become an elite tackle as a pro. This is a great draft for offensive linemen and Justice coule be one of the top two when it's all said and done.
Not only is his vision and cutting ability second to none but his workout was phenomenal and he is a hard worker to boot. I'm excited to watch him play this season. It's going to be fun.
Winston Justice is also on the path to a tremendous NFL career. He is very athletic and only needs a little refining in his technique to become an elite tackle as a pro. This is a great draft for offensive linemen and Justice coule be one of the top two when it's all said and done.
EBF
Footballguy
By the way, LenDale White didn't work out. This was a terrible decision by White. He claims to have a sore hamstring, but I have a hunch that some slow 40 times (4.7 maybe) convinced him to drop out. We'll see what happens with him, but his stock will take a big hit if he doesn't take care of this problem quickly.
David Dodds
Administrator
I think LHUCKS has this permanently available via the Windows Paste Function (Control-V).
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
White sure isn't impressing this off-season. I don't know how much to make of this, but I just heard that he isn't expected to work out before the draft. He will be working out privately for a few teams, but nothing like Maroney did when he missed his Pro Day. I think the "NFL reaction" is worth waiting for before jumping to negative conclusions, but I'm not sure.
Justice is looking more like a franchise tackle by the day. He's a certain top 10 pick, and any of Buffalo, Detroit, or Arizona would be lucky to get Justice at a pick later than tackles of his quality usually last.
Bing's numbers are very solid and match up with his heat seeking missile reputation. He's firmly in that 20-60 overall tier that will yield some very nice players. He's behind Michael Huff, Jason Allen and probably Donte Whitner, but is still an impact safety as good as any in last year's draft. The decision between the top 3 and Bing would be tougher if Bing was more durable because he is the only one with the size to leave craters when he hits a receiver.
Byrd's stock is at a low after a Senior Bowl performance that helped him gain momentum. I still feel Byrd and Marcedes Lewis will be productive NFL TEs despite sluggish 40 times. They are both natural receivers with talent that doesn't show up in timed drills. Byrd seems to have a knack for finding space in the deep zone that I think will translate in the pros. He also displays some wicked body control at times. Motivation questions seem to be dogging him.
Leinart is plenty athletic, even if you shave a little off those numbers, and that's not considered one of his stronger attributes. I still firmly feel he is a true franchise QB and the easy first pick of the QBs in this draft. The Saints are loving life, having the choice of taking Leinart and putting Brees right back in the situation he came from (brutal) or trading down to an eager team and likely STILL landing a franchise player such as Ferguson or Hawk. Fans should be jazzed even if all they do is just take Ferguson, he's as much the real deal as Leinart is, and would keep Brees jersey clean for a long time. Great break for the franchise that literally weathered the storm last year.
I don't know how the incomplete picture of White that has emerged from this all-important pre-draft period will affect his stock. Post-Rose Bowl, I was convinced that White was a top 15 player. Now it seems a lot more feasible that he could fall to a winning team in the later half of the first as there is some negative buzz and a perceived bust risk if you believe the rumors (some believe this is a smokescreen and they could be right) - The results would be a potential instant fantasy atomic bomb of epic proportions at a destination like Denver, New England, Carolina, or *gasp* Pittsburgh.
Bing's numbers are very solid and match up with his heat seeking missile reputation. He's firmly in that 20-60 overall tier that will yield some very nice players. He's behind Michael Huff, Jason Allen and probably Donte Whitner, but is still an impact safety as good as any in last year's draft. The decision between the top 3 and Bing would be tougher if Bing was more durable because he is the only one with the size to leave craters when he hits a receiver.
Byrd's stock is at a low after a Senior Bowl performance that helped him gain momentum. I still feel Byrd and Marcedes Lewis will be productive NFL TEs despite sluggish 40 times. They are both natural receivers with talent that doesn't show up in timed drills. Byrd seems to have a knack for finding space in the deep zone that I think will translate in the pros. He also displays some wicked body control at times. Motivation questions seem to be dogging him.
Leinart is plenty athletic, even if you shave a little off those numbers, and that's not considered one of his stronger attributes. I still firmly feel he is a true franchise QB and the easy first pick of the QBs in this draft. The Saints are loving life, having the choice of taking Leinart and putting Brees right back in the situation he came from (brutal) or trading down to an eager team and likely STILL landing a franchise player such as Ferguson or Hawk. Fans should be jazzed even if all they do is just take Ferguson, he's as much the real deal as Leinart is, and would keep Brees jersey clean for a long time. Great break for the franchise that literally weathered the storm last year.
I don't know how the incomplete picture of White that has emerged from this all-important pre-draft period will affect his stock. Post-Rose Bowl, I was convinced that White was a top 15 player. Now it seems a lot more feasible that he could fall to a winning team in the later half of the first as there is some negative buzz and a perceived bust risk if you believe the rumors (some believe this is a smokescreen and they could be right) - The results would be a potential instant fantasy atomic bomb of epic proportions at a destination like Denver, New England, Carolina, or *gasp* Pittsburgh.
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Donnybrook
Footballguy
NFL | L. White a limited participant at Pro Day
Sun, 2 Apr 2006 14:57:23 -0700
Gil Brandt, of NFL.com, reports USC RB LenDale White measured 6-0 3/4 and weighed 244 pounds at his Pro Day workout Sunday, April 2. White had 15 lifts, but didn't do any vertical or long jumps. He did not run.
What is his normal playing weight?
Sun, 2 Apr 2006 14:57:23 -0700
Gil Brandt, of NFL.com, reports USC RB LenDale White measured 6-0 3/4 and weighed 244 pounds at his Pro Day workout Sunday, April 2. White had 15 lifts, but didn't do any vertical or long jumps. He did not run.
What is his normal playing weight?
Jason Wood
Zoo York
For as impressive as Bush was, White was unimpressive. He'll be lucky to figure into the final third of the 1st round at this juncture.
Weiner Dog
Footballguy
Just like Braylon Edwards had to return his Dolphins jersey to Foot Locker after the draft last year.
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