Not a Hallmark holiday, HaroldIt has nothing to do with the money or time, it has to do with feeling forced to do it because someone randomly decided Feb. 14th would be a good day to guilt men into being affectionate to their SO.Do the flower, dinner thing on Feb 11th and it will be much more meaningful.This. Do something nice for your gf/wife, get her some flowers, go to dinner together. Is it really that difficult? I mean, is it the 30 bucks you have to lay out to buy her some flowers, or is it that you have to sit and have dinner with her?Don't be such drama queens. It's one day a year
Saint Valentine's Day, commonly shortened to Valentine's Day,[2][3][4] is an annual commemoration held on February 14 celebrating love and affection between intimate companions.[2][4] The day is named after one or more early Christian martyrs, Saint Valentine, and was established by Pope Gelasius I in 496 AD. It was deleted from the Roman calendar of saints in 1969 by Pope Paul VI, but its religious observance is still permitted. It is traditionally a day on which lovers express their love for each other by presenting flowers, offering confectionery, and sending greeting cards (known as "valentines"). The day first became associated with romantic love in the circle of Geoffrey Chaucer in the High Middle Ages, when the tradition of courtly love flourished.
Romantic legends
Saint Valentine of Terni and his disciples.The Early Medieval acta of either Saint Valentine were expounded briefly in Legenda Aurea.[16] According to that version, St Valentine was persecuted as a Christian and interrogated by Roman Emperor Claudius II in person. Claudius was impressed by Valentine and had a discussion with him, attempting to get him to convert to Roman paganism in order to save his life. Valentine refused and tried to convert Claudius to Christianity instead. Because of this, he was executed. Before his execution, he is reported to have performed a miracle by healing the blind daughter of his jailer.
Since Legenda Aurea still provided no connections whatsoever with sentimental love, appropriate lore has been embroidered in modern times to portray Valentine as a priest who refused an unattested law attributed to Roman Emperor Claudius II, allegedly ordering that young men remain single. The Emperor supposedly did this to grow his army, believing that married men did not make for good soldiers. The priest Valentine, however, secretly performed marriage ceremonies for young men. When Claudius found out about this, he had Valentine arrested and thrown in jail.
There is an additional modern embellishment to The Golden Legend, provided by American Greetings to History.com, and widely repeated despite having no historical basis whatsoever. On the evening before Valentine was to be executed, he would have written the first "valentine" card himself, addressed to a young girl variously identified as his beloved,[17] as the jailer's daughter whom he had befriended and healed,[18] or both. It was a note that read "From your Valentine."[17]
So you do something nice for your SO. We should all probably be doing that more often anyway.
The story of the Roman priest being executed for marrying people is probably nothing more than a legend. The first instance they can find of this whole "St. Valentine = romantic love" is Chaucer mentioning "volentyne's day" in some crappy poem.Not a Hallmark holiday, Harold
Saint Valentine's Day, commonly shortened to Valentine's Day,[2][3][4] is an annual commemoration held on February 14 celebrating love and affection between intimate companions.[2][4] The day is named after one or more early Christian martyrs, Saint Valentine, and was established by Pope Gelasius I in 496 AD. It was deleted from the Roman calendar of saints in 1969 by Pope Paul VI, but its religious observance is still permitted. It is traditionally a day on which lovers express their love for each other by presenting flowers, offering confectionery, and sending greeting cards (known as "valentines"). The day first became associated with romantic love in the circle of Geoffrey Chaucer in the High Middle Ages, when the tradition of courtly love flourished.Romantic legends
Saint Valentine of Terni and his disciples.The Early Medieval acta of either Saint Valentine were expounded briefly in Legenda Aurea.[16] According to that version, St Valentine was persecuted as a Christian and interrogated by Roman Emperor Claudius II in person. Claudius was impressed by Valentine and had a discussion with him, attempting to get him to convert to Roman paganism in order to save his life. Valentine refused and tried to convert Claudius to Christianity instead. Because of this, he was executed. Before his execution, he is reported to have performed a miracle by healing the blind daughter of his jailer.
Since Legenda Aurea still provided no connections whatsoever with sentimental love, appropriate lore has been embroidered in modern times to portray Valentine as a priest who refused an unattested law attributed to Roman Emperor Claudius II, allegedly ordering that young men remain single. The Emperor supposedly did this to grow his army, believing that married men did not make for good soldiers. The priest Valentine, however, secretly performed marriage ceremonies for young men. When Claudius found out about this, he had Valentine arrested and thrown in jail.
There is an additional modern embellishment to The Golden Legend, provided by American Greetings to History.com, and widely repeated despite having no historical basis whatsoever. On the evening before Valentine was to be executed, he would have written the first "valentine" card himself, addressed to a young girl variously identified as his beloved,[17] as the jailer's daughter whom he had befriended and healed,[18] or both. It was a note that read "From your Valentine."[17]
She doesn't want me wasting money on flowers as it is. If I sent it on a random day she would get really annoyed because everyone would be asking her what the occasion was. She's not into small talk.offdee said:Nothing wrong with doing something nice out of the blue, but feeling forced to do it on this specific day is silly. Send her some flowers next week sometime...will have more meaning.jamny said:We generally don't celebrate too much for Valantine's Day, birthdays, anniversaries, etc. She won't even skip a gym class tonight to go out to dinner. But every once in a while the timing is right to send flowers to her work. Being that it's a Monday and she'll be able to see them all week helps too.
Thank's for verifying that it's not a Hallmark holiday .The story of the Roman priest being executed for marrying people is probably nothing more than a legend. The first instance they can find of this whole "St. Valentine = romantic love" is Chaucer mentioning "volentyne's day" in some crappy poem.Not a Hallmark holiday, Harold
Saint Valentine's Day, commonly shortened to Valentine's Day,[2][3][4] is an annual commemoration held on February 14 celebrating love and affection between intimate companions.[2][4] The day is named after one or more early Christian martyrs, Saint Valentine, and was established by Pope Gelasius I in 496 AD. It was deleted from the Roman calendar of saints in 1969 by Pope Paul VI, but its religious observance is still permitted. It is traditionally a day on which lovers express their love for each other by presenting flowers, offering confectionery, and sending greeting cards (known as "valentines"). The day first became associated with romantic love in the circle of Geoffrey Chaucer in the High Middle Ages, when the tradition of courtly love flourished.Romantic legends
Saint Valentine of Terni and his disciples.The Early Medieval acta of either Saint Valentine were expounded briefly in Legenda Aurea.[16] According to that version, St Valentine was persecuted as a Christian and interrogated by Roman Emperor Claudius II in person. Claudius was impressed by Valentine and had a discussion with him, attempting to get him to convert to Roman paganism in order to save his life. Valentine refused and tried to convert Claudius to Christianity instead. Because of this, he was executed. Before his execution, he is reported to have performed a miracle by healing the blind daughter of his jailer.
Since Legenda Aurea still provided no connections whatsoever with sentimental love, appropriate lore has been embroidered in modern times to portray Valentine as a priest who refused an unattested law attributed to Roman Emperor Claudius II, allegedly ordering that young men remain single. The Emperor supposedly did this to grow his army, believing that married men did not make for good soldiers. The priest Valentine, however, secretly performed marriage ceremonies for young men. When Claudius found out about this, he had Valentine arrested and thrown in jail.
There is an additional modern embellishment to The Golden Legend, provided by American Greetings to History.com, and widely repeated despite having no historical basis whatsoever. On the evening before Valentine was to be executed, he would have written the first "valentine" card himself, addressed to a young girl variously identified as his beloved,[17] as the jailer's daughter whom he had befriended and healed,[18] or both. It was a note that read "From your Valentine."[17]
Wow, a SILVER ring? Sounds... um.... well...... yikes.It's actually the definition of spontaneously romantic. Buying gifts for each other on Feb. 14th and Dec. 25th is not spontaneous whatsoever....it's expected by the masses.2 months ago I bought her a sterling silver ring she was eyeing up at a boutique she likes to go to....wrapped it up and set it on her laptop after she came home from a workout. Just a random Wednesday night.3 weeks ago she bought me a shirt that she thought would look good on me during a trip to get herself a new dress for an awards banquet.So, yes, we've formally agreed to not get each other gifts on Valentine's Day and Christmas and in turn enjoy surprising each other with nice gestures when they aren't expected.Did you write that into your relationship contract that you wouldn't be coerced into celebrating Valentine's Day, or spending any money on each other for Christmas? Sounds spontaneously romantic.Do you have a brother?
How does this implicate how fun a person is?You sound like a real hoot.
You're single, right?Wow, a SILVER ring? Sounds... um.... well...... yikes.It's actually the definition of spontaneously romantic. Buying gifts for each other on Feb. 14th and Dec. 25th is not spontaneous whatsoever....it's expected by the masses.2 months ago I bought her a sterling silver ring she was eyeing up at a boutique she likes to go to....wrapped it up and set it on her laptop after she came home from a workout. Just a random Wednesday night.3 weeks ago she bought me a shirt that she thought would look good on me during a trip to get herself a new dress for an awards banquet.So, yes, we've formally agreed to not get each other gifts on Valentine's Day and Christmas and in turn enjoy surprising each other with nice gestures when they aren't expected.Did you write that into your relationship contract that you wouldn't be coerced into celebrating Valentine's Day, or spending any money on each other for Christmas? Sounds spontaneously romantic.Do you have a brother?
I don't know. How does it?How does this implicate how fun a person is?You sound like a real hoot.
Then what were you alluding to with that statement?I don't know. How does it?How does this implicate how fun a person is?You sound like a real hoot.
goonsquad said:Sweetest Day is like a mini-Valentine's Day. Less of a big, universally regarded as a Hallmark Holiday yet the girls like it anyways.belljr said:We agreed to no cards, gifts on Christmas, V-Day, Anniv. also but I still do it. I enjoy doing it, even if it's a small gift or just a card![]()
Is Sweetest Day halloween ??![]()
And I can guarantee that every single SO that has "agreed" to not celebrating Valentine's Day is in reality disappointed inside. Dumb thing for a guy to take a stand on, IMO.
My wife was just happy that I remembered it was Valentine's Day today. I didn't get her anything and she's making me cioppino tonight.goonsquad said:Sweetest Day is like a mini-Valentine's Day. Less of a big, universally regarded as a Hallmark Holiday yet the girls like it anyways.belljr said:We agreed to no cards, gifts on Christmas, V-Day, Anniv. also but I still do it. I enjoy doing it, even if it's a small gift or just a card![]()
Is Sweetest Day halloween ??![]()
And I can guarantee that every single SO that has "agreed" to not celebrating Valentine's Day is in reality disappointed inside. Dumb thing for a guy to take a stand on, IMO.
I'm ok with not doing anything on Valentine's Day. It's sweet if he remembers and makes an effort (got me a box of chocolates early) but I can't be bothered with all the hoopla, especially on a Monday. I'm also really cheap, so I hate that he spends extra for flowers or candy because he is SUPPOSED to that day.
That he wasn't fun.Then what were you alluding to with that statement?I don't know. How does it?How does this implicate how fun a person is?You sound like a real hoot.
Based on the starting of this thread, correct?So I'll ask again, how does this implicate how fun a person is?That he wasn't fun.Then what were you alluding to with that statement?I don't know. How does it?How does this implicate how fun a person is?You sound like a real hoot.
Based on:His scientifically detailed rating system of women.He had is GF sign a "cohabitation contract".His peculiar obsession with fashion.And this thread.Of course I was just making an observation. Offdee could be the life of the party. We good?Based on the starting of this thread, correct?So I'll ask again, how does this implicate how fun a person is?
Ah, I was leaving all of those other pieces out. We're terrific.Based on:His scientifically detailed rating system of women.He had is GF sign a "cohabitation contract".His peculiar obsession with fashion.And this thread.Of course I was just making an observation. Offdee could be the life of the party. We good?Based on the starting of this thread, correct?So I'll ask again, how does this implicate how fun a person is?
Actually I'm a big fan of Offdee. My wife and I have never celebrated Valentine's Day in any form. Just another day and we carry on as we always would.Based on:His scientifically detailed rating system of women.He had is GF sign a "cohabitation contract".His peculiar obsession with fashion.And this thread.Of course I was just making an observation. Offdee could be the life of the party. We good?Based on the starting of this thread, correct?So I'll ask again, how does this implicate how fun a person is?
UPDATE: $3.10 spent on red satiny fabric for a tablecloth might have been the best investment ever on Vday. went to fried chicken joint (she was very excited) and whipped out the "tablecloth", a candle, and a bottle Meiomi Pinot Noir and her face lit up. All dinner long every woman in the place would walk by and smile really big at our setup. People were pointing from across the room. Was a great time and she loved it. Asked if we could make it an annual thing. Dinner was $24 including my 40oz Bud and she's got leftovers for lunch tomorrow.So you do something nice for your SO. We should all probably be doing that more often anyway.Don't have to go blow $100 on flowers or $50 on candy. Something simple is always nice.
I sent her flowers but only because she told me not to.
She didnt want to deal with the crowds on Vday at fancy restaurants (she hates blowing tons of money in restaurants ) so we're going to her favorite place in town (guilty pleasure): Gus's World Famous Fried Chicken. Not exactly fine dining.![]()
Bringing a red table cloth and a candle, as well as a bottle of wine for her. I'll be enjoying one of the nice 40oz Budweisers they serve there.Good times.
UPDATE: $3.10 spent on red satiny fabric for a tablecloth might have been the best investment ever on Vday. went to fried chicken joint (she was very excited) and whipped out the "tablecloth", a candle, and a bottle Meiomi Pinot Noir and her face lit up. All dinner long every woman in the place would walk by and smile really big at our setup. People were pointing from across the room. Was a great time and she loved it. Asked if we could make it an annual thing. Dinner was $24 including my 40oz Bud and she's got leftovers for lunch tomorrow.![]()
UPDATE: $3.10 spent on red satiny fabric for a tablecloth might have been the best investment ever on Vday. went to fried chicken joint (she was very excited) and whipped out the "tablecloth", a candle, and a bottle Meiomi Pinot Noir and her face lit up. All dinner long every woman in the place would walk by and smile really big at our setup. People were pointing from across the room. Was a great time and she loved it. Asked if we could make it an annual thing. Dinner was $24 including my 40oz Bud and she's got leftovers for lunch tomorrow.![]()
Smooth.
Stop being a slob.I cleaned up my kitchen except for this stack of dirty dishes that's been in one half of my sink for several months.
Yea, one of my biggest weaknesses is cleaning. Especially washing dishes. She says she can't cook, but she's a good cleaner, so we make a good team.Stop being a slob.I cleaned up my kitchen except for this stack of dirty dishes that's been in one half of my sink for several months.
Orange & blue dots. 10.How was everyone's special day yesterday?
My g/f would have no problem doing this as well. But her appreciation of the roses I got her last night totally made it worth giving into it.Actually I'm a big fan of Offdee. My wife and I have never celebrated Valentine's Day in any form. Just another day and we carry on as we always would.Based on:His scientifically detailed rating system of women.He had is GF sign a "cohabitation contract".His peculiar obsession with fashion.And this thread.Of course I was just making an observation. Offdee could be the life of the party. We good?Based on the starting of this thread, correct?So I'll ask again, how does this implicate how fun a person is?
Seriously. why the hate?Don't be such drama queens. It's one day a year, and unless you totally screw it up, you get some secks out of the deal.
'offdee said:How was everyone's special day yesterday?