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I can only imagine what this is costing them:

Power has been out at Paris Las Vegas for more than 12 hours and it could continue through the night after workers in the basement cut into the main power line.

 
I can only imagine what this is costing them:

Power has been out at Paris Las Vegas for more than 12 hours and it could continue through the night after workers in the basement cut into the main power line.
Wow.  I wonder if they have some type of insurance for this kind of thing.  Crazy

 
I can only imagine what this is costing them:

Power has been out at Paris Las Vegas for more than 12 hours and it could continue through the night after workers in the basement cut into the main power line.
I simply cant believe they had to get everybody out and wont let people in unless it is for emergency medications. i would be so pissed not being able to get at my stuff.

 
LC512 said:
Anyone have a good suggestion for somewhere to watch the NFL afternoon games (specifically Saints at 1pm Vegas time) - where we can find a seat closer to afternoon kickoff vs. having to show up before the early games start?

Seen Westgate as a suggestion.. can we show up around noon or so and get a seat for the late games? Or will people clear out after the morning games and we can slide in? If there's an off-strip place that has nice TVs where we can definitely get seats, I'm all about Uber..

TIA
Westgate is likely your best bet.  They have an entire theater dedicated to the NFL in addition to their huge sportsbook.

 
Anyone go on the High Roller?   There is some kind of deal where you have an open bar on it or something?  Does this mean there is a bar right in the pod?  Or is it just that you can bring a drink on and look around for half an hour?

 
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Anyone go on the High Roller?   There is some kind of deal where you have an open bar on it or something?  Does this mean there is a bar right in the pod?  Or is it just that you can bring a drink on and look around for half an hour?
I didnt go on it, but I believe drinks are sold at the "wheelhouse" and you can bring them on with you. If you reserve an entire pod, they can put a bar tender on it. 

 
Anyone go on the High Roller?   There is some kind of deal where you have an open bar on it or something?  Does this mean there is a bar right in the pod?  Or is it just that you can bring a drink on and look around for half an hour?
There is a bar car. Costs a little extra, but it's all you can drink. Note: no restrooms in the pods.

 
This dynamic started on the strip years ago.   As a Vegas veteran--let me give this sound advice to anybody that is going to Vegas. If gambling is one of the real primary reasons that you are going to Vegas--do yourself a favor and do not gamble on the strip.  Many years ago--the major strip hotels relied on gambling as being the heavy majority of their incomes.  Because of this--they would offer better odds, better payouts, etc--to get people to return.  They also had cheap food and cheap rooms to get people in their casinos.  However--the strip is now a completely different animal. While gambling is still a revenue generator for them--they also now have day parties at the pools, night clubs with insanely high cover charges and bottle service, far more pricey room rates, expensive shows, and expensive dining options.    
Vegas has always been at the extreme ends of the booms and busts, 8 years ago strip hotels were falling all over themselves throwing free rooms at people, comps, low table limits, etc. Feels like we are nearing the peak of a long boom cycle, just need a good recession to knock them down a peg or two!

 
They closed the theatre down for NFL about 6 weeks ago.
Seriously?  Not enough attendance?

I'm heading down for my buddy trip on the 11th, keep hearing comments on betting podcasts about how NFL betting is down as ratings are down.  Is Vegas less crowded for Sundays these days?

 
Seriously?  Not enough attendance?

I'm heading down for my buddy trip on the 11th, keep hearing comments on betting podcasts about how NFL betting is down as ratings are down.  Is Vegas less crowded for Sundays these days?
I am not sure, do a google search on it. I know this year they started charging $5 a head for the theatre, but you got a free beer. And I think it was crowded first few weeks of NFL, then they shut it down. I think it was shut down for good, but I haven't checked in last few weeks to see if by some off chance they re-opened it.

 
Vegas has always been at the extreme ends of the booms and busts, 8 years ago strip hotels were falling all over themselves throwing free rooms at people, comps, low table limits, etc. Feels like we are nearing the peak of a long boom cycle, just need a good recession to knock them down a peg or two!
While there is truth there--8 years ago was 2008 when multiple economic bubbles blew up effecting the entire USA.   I think the main thing with Vegas (in regards to the strip) is that the major strip hotels were searching for an identity for a while.   Way back when --the strip was basically an anti-children, get adults into your casinos at all costs (whether it was cheap rooms, cheap food, comps..etc) proposition.   Then, they realized two problems.  This philosophy basically made it impossible for families to come to Vegas--and non-gamblers could easily take advantage of these cheap rooms,cheap food, and cheap entertainment--which in turn cut into their bottom lines.   Then for a while--Vegas tried to become more a family tourist destination.  Theme parks opened up at both the Circus Circus and the MGM grand--but Vegas soon found out that catering to children ended up costing more money than it made.   Finally--Vegas realized that the best way to make money was to not only be known as a "night-time" city.   They realized that adults (even non gamblers) go to Vegas to indulge themselves.  They've monetized their swimming pools by throwing day parties.   Instead of people hanging out in free casino lounges--they figured out that people will spend money to go to exclusive night clubs with high cover fees.  They realized that non-gamblers are willing to  indulge and spend good money on nice dining and drinks.    They've even realized that because people come to the strip to indulge--that they have no incentive to give their rooms away for cheap rates (unless they know for a fact that you are a moderate to heavy gambler).  Vegas was basically a boomtown for like 20 straight years before the bubble burst.   I certainly hope a recession doesn't knock down the strip a notch or two--because the strip is basically a microcosm of our economy. It's profits are convention based and tourists indulging on themselves. A recession on the strip would most likely mark a nation wide recession.   I think the key for the Vegas tourist is to be honest with what you want out of your trip.  If you want a vacation of pure indulgence and convenience regardless of cost--then you should absolutely enjoy the strip.  Great dining, great rooms, great shows, not so great gambling--all within a few miles--but all at a cost.   If you want bang for your buck--you just have to pick and choose your indulgences (gamble at locals places, maybe have one to two meals a day off the strip, if you plan on just sleeping and showering in your room---pick a more modest hotel.etc). Vegas vacations are truly customizable to your needs as long as you are honest with yourself in regards to what your priorities are.  

 
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Another time I wanted to play roulette at a $25 minimum table and bet $1 chips because of how I bet completes on 17/20 and the dealer said he would only do $5 chips even though my total bet would be like $35-40.
$25 roulette tables always have $5 minimum chips inside, to the best of my knowledge.  Nothing to do with a lazy dealer.

 
$25 roulette tables always have $5 minimum chips inside, to the best of my knowledge.  Nothing to do with a lazy dealer.


I was pretty drunk but unless I bought in for $500 and not $100 the encore didn't have a problem with me being singles at the $25 tables when I stayed there. I feel like the venetian did too, but some of those nights are a blur. 

Does that just depend on the casino? I like to play roulette alone so I always went to empty tables, maybe the dealers that allowed it were just bored?

 
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Dug around, looks like they re-opened it last weekend per their Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WestgateLasVegas/posts/1152066608222549:0

Going to give it a shot on Sunday and will update this thread. Any suggestions for a backup plan if the Westgate is a no go?


Theater was not open. Went in there and an employee explained that it was because of some show vs. it being a permanent closure. Book itself was packed, found seats in the back by some slot machines, but not a great view. Ended up standing by the bar for most of the Saints game. Was still a blast.

 
Anyone have a pro tip on staying at a lessor hotel but getting a suite?  

Seems like some good deals at Luxor/Monte Carlo/TI level hotels on the nicer rooms.

 
Anyone have a pro tip on staying at a lessor hotel but getting a suite?  

Seems like some good deals at Luxor/Monte Carlo/TI level hotels on the nicer rooms.
Luxor would be a decent choice because you can play and have easy access to Mandaly Bay, NY NY (A great casino and atmosphere IMO with $5 craps and black jack during the day), and The MGM. 

 
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Anyone have a pro tip on staying at a lessor hotel but getting a suite?  

Seems like some good deals at Luxor/Monte Carlo/TI level hotels on the nicer rooms.
I like the tower luxury suites at luxor. Have stayed there a few times. Probably staying there December 16th-18th. They have a fridge, are huge, and the location doesnt bother me like it does some. I would avoid the pyramid, but I only stayed in it once. Carpet was nasty. Got transferred the next day when we had almost no water pressure. Never had any issues in the newer towers though.

FYI they just opened a total wine on las vegas blvd. A little south of towne center. I would think from the south strip hotels there an uber would be real cheap. Maybe double up and get a photo in front of the fabulous las vegas sign.  

 
Anyone have a pro tip on staying at a lessor hotel but getting a suite?  

Seems like some good deals at Luxor/Monte Carlo/TI level hotels on the nicer rooms.
The newer "Go" rooms at The Flamingo are totally fine. I think we had a few nights comped and Thu/Fri were $100 a night. We tend to stay at Harrah's properties due to the player card.

 
Posted this in the gambling thread:

Also, for those interested....Been in Vegas all weekend. Surprisingly enough,all of the casinos who use Stations as line originators have the most prop options. They have the London game, SNF, MNF and about 12 other random player props for the regular games. 

Not great, but better than nothing. 
Westgate had their SNF and MNF prop sheet available Saturday morning - there were like maybe 5 total player props for each game

El Cortez (Stations) didn't have any of their props until Sunday morning (well, I guess it could've been Saturday night..but I didn't check) - they had 6 for the London game, then 12 total for the "regular" day games, then another 6 or so for the SNF/MNF games each
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Kind of odd and was hoping someone might have an explanation;

I am heading to the Venetian Sunday. There will be four of us getting rooms and they will all be charged to the Administrative Assistant's company card. (The Admin is not going). The Venetian required us pay about $800 down a couple weeks ago, but would not let us pay the bill in full. We have to call back towards the end of this week to do that. What could possibly be the reason for this? 

 
Does any have plans to visit the new Lucky Dragon casino? It doesn't look very impressive. Supposedly they're targeting middle-class Chinese gamblers so I guess they may have low limit table games.

 
Ended up at the Aria.  Called the poker room manager who gave me a poker player rate.  Staying three nights.  So long as we play 15 total hours cash games we get a $1300 room for $500....

best part about it is they have a $100 tournament every night and if you play it counts as 5 hours.  Wife always wants to give one these a shot every trip so I don't think getting 5 hours of cash play in is a big deal.

 
Going in Feb after getting dirt cheap cyber Monday flights.  Staying at NYNY and planning on going to see Elton John.  Looking forward to it.

 
Flying out tomorrow night.  Can't hardly wait.

Just ordered two tickets to absinthe.  Wife wanted to use Groupon but after reading about how bad you get roasted up front and how uncomfortable the seats are I reserved us a table on the edge of the tent.

 
Flying out tomorrow night.  Can't hardly wait.

Just ordered two tickets to absinthe.  Wife wanted to use Groupon but after reading about how bad you get roasted up front and how uncomfortable the seats are I reserved us a table on the edge of the tent.
This was a smart move. 

 
Does any have plans to visit the new Lucky Dragon casino? It doesn't look very impressive. Supposedly they're targeting middle-class Chinese gamblers so I guess they may have low limit table games.
I was just there on December 4th (one day after their grand opening).  It's very uninspiring and frankly--the casino is TINY.   There are a few table games and some Asian themed/inspired slot machines--but that's about it.  The casino is literally one medium sized round room.  I did notice that they had a few Asian restaurants that seemed to be fairly busy--but I didn't eat there--so I cannot comment on that.    The place certainly has a "middle-class" vibe as it's far from being extravagant or fancy.    It's a very "meh" experience. 

 
Wife and I went the day after Thanksgiving...here's a few notes:

If you're driving, then WAZE is definitely the way to go.  It'll help get you around all that main drag nonsense and got me to parking easily.  Yes, parking has become a bit of a thing now.  I don't want to pay for it so I ended up parking outside of Macy's across from Venetian.

Speaking of Venetian...Yard bird is definitely worthy of its rating.  Incredible.

Went to see Ka...very cool acrobatic cirque with combat.  Someone actually died doing this show a couple years ago and another guy fell 40 feet from the wheel of death not too long ago...so it's definitely death-defying.

Hung out downtown at a few fun bars. I like dives.  Hogs and Heifers is apparently the inspiration behind Coyote Ugly before Bruckheimer stole it.  Very fun dive.

Went to Atomic Liquors.  Very cool dive bar that's actually one of the oldest in Vegas.  Was in the "pen scene" from Casino.  Hipsters have started renovating the dive bars downtown...this one retains some of its old school charm with an update.

Tickets4less or whatever they're called are the only way to go for shows.

I plan to check out "O" next time we go.

 
Any tips or suggestions for March Madness week 3/13?  Here are some details:

I've got some work to do a couple days in Henderson that week.  I'm thinking I'll fly in that Monday or Tuesday, get done with work by Wednesday night, then stay to enjoy a day or two of the Madness.  

Has anyone stayed at any of the casinos in Henderson?  Looks like there are a couple decent resorts.

This is the first time I'll have a car in Vegas.  What is WAZE mentioned in the post before this?  Is the shark move possibly to stay downtown Vegas for the beginning of the trip while I'd be commuting to Henderson, or maybe the entire trip?  

If my wife and son tag along, they want to do the Grand Canyon.  Has anyone done this by driving on your own?  Or is it better to do as a group on some charter?

 
@Bobcat10  Green Valley Ranch in Henderson is the shark move for you. It's very nice and also has good gambling. 

 
Looking for some advice - will be attending a bachelor party of around 10-15 people in mid april.  I'm the "vegas vet" of the group, but my challenge is that the group is very diverse in what they're like: gamblers/non-gamblers, all day drinkers/special occasion drinkers, single/married, gentleman's club/non-gentleman's club, etc.  At the end of the day, we're all going to have fun as a group....but I'm looking for some opinions on the best places to stay with various options if you were in our shoes.  

2-3 nights, everyone around 35-45 FWIW.  

:thanks:

 
What is WAZE mentioned in the post before this?  Is the shark move possibly to stay downtown Vegas for the beginning of the trip while I'd be commuting to Henderson, or maybe the entire trip?  

If my wife and son tag along, they want to do the Grand Canyon.  Has anyone done this by driving on your own?  Or is it better to do as a group on some charter?
Waze is a great Navigation App that let's users help each other with regards to traffic, road hazards, cops, etc. Used it to drive from Indy to Florida. Drove 95mph the entire trip. Knew exactly where to slow down for cops and avoided construction saving over 30 minutes.

As for GC, I prefer to drive myself. For me, the tour bus adds very little.

I like Zion which you can do in a little over 2 hours and the views to me were just as spectacular!

 
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