Vehicle Auto-shutoff Feature (1 Viewer)

[arrow1]

Seems to be more vehicles with the auto shutoff feature. It can be turned off, but wondering what people thought of it. Referring to when you stop at a light and engine shuts off.

 

[SWC]

i like it because every time i get going again it sort of surprises me and i like surprises take that to the bank brohans

 

[BassNBrew]

Can you clarify please.

1. Auto shut off at stop lights and in traffic?
2. Auto shut off where I leave my vehicle with my phone and it shuts off, locks, etc.

@arrow1

 

[belljr]

Can you clarify please.

1. Auto shut off at stop lights and in traffic?
2. Auto shut off where I leave my vehicle with my phone and it shuts off, locks, etc.

@arrow1

he means 1,

where you press the brake and it shutsoff for like 30-60 seconds to save gas

 

[arrow1]

Can you clarify please.

1. Auto shut off at stop lights and in traffic?
2. Auto shut off where I leave my vehicle with my phone and it shuts off, locks, etc.

@arrow1

he means 1,

where you press the brake and it shutsoff for like 30-60 seconds to save gas

Yep, I edited the OP

 

[Ron Swanson]

I hate those things. And they usually use a momentary switch to disable them so you have to do it every damn time you start the vehicle. One more bonus with an EV...no need for it.

 

[Courtjester]

I don't have it, but if I did, I would find a way to turn it off. You see cars in drive-thru's and it is just on and off--on and off. That would drive me crazy. That can't be good for the starter or engine in the long run.

 

[bcat01]

First thing I do after starting the car is pushing the button to turn it off.

 

[The Gator]

Hate it.

Hit the start button, then hit the turn off auto start button is my routine every time

 

[nysfl2]

Don't have it in any car that I own, but have hated it in any rental that I've gotten that have it

 

[The General]

Don’t have it. Seems super annoying.

 

[thecatch]

Hate it.

Hit the start button, then hit the turn off auto start button is my routine every time

Same. It used to drive me nuts but I've reached the acceptance stage.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Don’t have it. Have hated it in rental cars

 

[Runkle]

Voted for all three options because I have no opinion

 

[Don Quixote]

Am I allowed to have it and be indifferent to it?

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I just bought a new car last month, and of course it has this feature. I wouldn't say I "hate" it, but I do dislike it.

On the other hand, the feature where you can push down on the brake and have it hold your vehicle in place until you hit the gas is nice. I use that all the time and I don't even have traffic to worry about.

 

[beer 30]

It's not a feature, it's a bug

 

[arrow1]

Added some options...lol

 

[Dezbelief]

That can't be good for the starter

Starter replacements run about a grand now with labor. Any financial savings gets wiped out with one worn out starter.

 

[Jaysus]

The option to disable this feature is backwards: you should press a button to enable the feature not to disable it.

 

[Osaurus]

Have it in a rental car right now and I have to turn it off every time. It’s super annoying

 

[Dezbelief]

I don't like the split second delay it takes for the engine to start and the vehicle to begin moving, it can be dangerous in a busy city.

 

[bcat01]

The option to disable this feature is backwards: you should press a button to enable the feature not to disable it.

I was told they install them to get around the governments fuel standards. Auto start has to be on automatically to apply any fuel savings.

 

[thecatch]

The option to disable this feature is backwards: you should press a button to enable the feature not to disable it.

As I understand it, it's not a "feature" for customer convenience, it's a mechanism for the car makers to lower their auto emissions for regulatory purposes.

 

[HomerSimpson]

HATE IT. First thing i do when i start my engine is turn that thing off. Once i forgot, the damn engine turned off when i briefly stopped to throw it into reverse for a 3 point turn.

 

[fruity pebbles]

I flat out wouldn’t buy a car with it

 

[jamny]

The first time I ever even knew about it was when I rented a car in Florida. I thought there was a problem with the car and almost brought it back to the rental place. I drove with 2 feet the whole way to the hotel so it wouldn't stall...lmao. Got to the hotel and did a search on my phone to find out it was supposed to do that.
Now that I know abut it, it doesn't really bother me but I wouldn't want it on a car I own.

 

[Mister CIA]

I just bought a new car last month, and of course it has this feature. I wouldn't say I "hate" it, but I do dislike it.

On the other hand, the feature where you can push down on the brake and have it hold your vehicle in place until you hit the gas is nice. I use that all the time and I don't even have traffic to worry about.

Same as day one, right?

 

[Terminalxylem]

Have all the concerns of starter wear-and-tear proven to be a problem? Like, are starters actually requiring replacement more often?

I don’t have it, but have been annoyed by it in rentals. I just figured I was being tech averse, for no good reason.

Kinda of reminds me of my dad disliking power windows, as there were “too many things to break.” While true, that concern wasn’t a legitimate problem in most vehicles.

Do cumulative fuel savings more than offset the potential starter replacement costs?

Are there any other concerns with this feature?

ETA Looks like they’ve beefed up the system to account for wear-and-tear, and starters in cars with the start-stop feature are designed to last ~10x as long as conventional starters. The main downside is increased replacement battery cost, though I’m not sure if the beefier batteries provide other benefits to the vehicle.

 

[nysfl2]

The option to disable this feature is backwards: you should press a button to enable the feature not to disable it.

As I understand it, it's not a "feature" for customer convenience, it's a mechanism for the car makers to lower their auto emissions for regulatory purposes.

Fuel economy targets, I think. Not emissions.

 

[Phil Elliott]

First time I ran into it was on a rental car in Florence. Drove it out of the rental lot and engine met stopping at red lights. Took me a few minutes to figure out what was going on.

 

[belljr]

Have all the concerns of starter wear-and-tear proven to be a problem? Like, are starters actually requiring replacement more often?

I don’t have it, but have been annoyed by it in rentals. I just figured I was being tech averse, for no good reason.

Kinda of reminds me of my dad disliking power windows, as there were “too many things to break.” While true, that concern wasn’t a legitimate problem in most vehicles.

Do cumulative fuel savings more than offset the potential starter replacement costs?

Are there any other concerns with this feature?

These starters aren't like og starters they are created to wind the engine slower along with other components assisting a warm start.

The bushings are not the same.

This is actually not new technology.

They might cost a touch more than old starters but the warm start vs the cold start should not be an issue

 

[Terminalxylem]

The option to disable this feature is backwards: you should press a button to enable the feature not to disable it.

As I understand it, it's not a "feature" for customer convenience, it's a mechanism for the car makers to lower their auto emissions for regulatory purposes.

Fuel economy targets, I think. Not emissions.

Those two things are interrelated.

 

[msudaisy26]

I don't have it, but if I did, I would find a way to turn it off. You see cars in drive-thru's and it is just on and off--on and off. That would drive me crazy. That can't be good for the starter or engine in the long run.

It doesn't work that way. Auto stop only reengages after 25 seconds.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Does anyone here remember that time when we were only given limited likes per day? I'm glad we don't have that now, at least for this thread.

 

[Dezbelief]

I don't have it, but if I did, I would find a way to turn it off. You see cars in drive-thru's and it is just on and off--on and off. That would drive me crazy. That can't be good for the starter or engine in the long run.

It doesn't work that way. Auto stop only reengages after 25 seconds.

I had a 22 or 23 Kia Soul rental that auto stopped much sooner than 25 seconds.

 

[BassNBrew]

I just bought a new car last month, and of course it has this feature. I wouldn't say I "hate" it, but I do dislike it.

On the other hand, the feature where you can push down on the brake and have it hold your vehicle in place until you hit the gas is nice. I use that all the time and I don't even have traffic to worry about.

Just wait until you get an EV and don't use the brake.

 

[sho nuff]

I hate those things. And they usually use a momentary switch to disable them so you have to do it every damn time you start the vehicle. One more bonus with an EV...no need for it.

Yeah. The default should be off and you can decide to use it.

Feels dangerous at blind stop signs when you need to sort of gun it when yiu have an opening. That hesitation of a restarting before you get some acceleration seems bad.

 

[Scoresman]

I cant wait for all of these cars that have this to get to be 15-20 years old where they get in that range where you're not always sure the car's going to start up immediately. That, would end up being incredibly annoying.

 

[jabarony]

I don't have it, but if I did, I would find a way to turn it off. You see cars in drive-thru's and it is just on and off--on and off. That would drive me crazy. That can't be good for the starter or engine in the long run.

If they are going on-off repeatedly in a drive-thru, that's poorly designed. It should only disengage (engage?) at the first stop from above say 5 mph. Unless those drive-thru customers are gunning it 15 feet then slamming on the brakes

 

[msudaisy26]

I don't have it, but if I did, I would find a way to turn it off. You see cars in drive-thru's and it is just on and off--on and off. That would drive me crazy. That can't be good for the starter or engine in the long run.

It doesn't work that way. Auto stop only reengages after 25 seconds.

I had a 22 or 23 Kia Soul rental that auto stopped much sooner than 25 seconds.

Maybe your brand is 15 seconds, but cars dont shut off at a light or when you place an order at a drive through then you pull up ten feet and it shuts off again.

 

[Dezbelief]

I don't have it, but if I did, I would find a way to turn it off. You see cars in drive-thru's and it is just on and off--on and off. That would drive me crazy. That can't be good for the starter or engine in the long run.

It doesn't work that way. Auto stop only reengages after 25 seconds.

I had a 22 or 23 Kia Soul rental that auto stopped much sooner than 25 seconds.

Maybe your brand is 15 seconds, but cars dont shut off at a light or when you place an order at a drive through then you pull up ten feet and it shuts off again.

It was almost instantaneous to coming to a complete stop. I would pull into my driveway, the car would shut off before I could put it in park, then start back up when placed in park. I would then turn the car off and exit the vehicle. This was a 2022 or 2023 Kia Soul from Enterprise. The car had a keyed ignition, not a push button start.

 

[belljr]

I don't have it, but if I did, I would find a way to turn it off. You see cars in drive-thru's and it is just on and off--on and off. That would drive me crazy. That can't be good for the starter or engine in the long run.

It doesn't work that way. Auto stop only reengages after 25 seconds.

I had a 22 or 23 Kia Soul rental that auto stopped much sooner than 25 seconds.

Maybe your brand is 15 seconds, but cars dont shut off at a light or when you place an order at a drive through then you pull up ten feet and it shuts off again.

It was almost instantaneous to coming to a complete stop. I would pull into my driveway, the car would shut off before I could put it in park, then start back up when placed in park. I would then turn the car off and exit the vehicle. This was a 2022 or 2023 Kia Soul from Enterprise. The car had a keyed ignition, not a push button start.

But that's not what is being discussed. You pull behind a car. Engine shuts off. Engine restarts after a certain amount of time. You then pull forward 10ft it doesn't shut off again via the auto shutoff.

 

[thecatch]

I don't have it, but if I did, I would find a way to turn it off. You see cars in drive-thru's and it is just on and off--on and off. That would drive me crazy. That can't be good for the starter or engine in the long run.

It doesn't work that way. Auto stop only reengages after 25 seconds.

I had a 22 or 23 Kia Soul rental that auto stopped much sooner than 25 seconds.

Maybe your brand is 15 seconds, but cars dont shut off at a light or when you place an order at a drive through then you pull up ten feet and it shuts off again.

It was almost instantaneous to coming to a complete stop. I would pull into my driveway, the car would shut off before I could put it in park, then start back up when placed in park. I would then turn the car off and exit the vehicle. This was a 2022 or 2023 Kia Soul from Enterprise. The car had a keyed ignition, not a push button start.

But that's not what is being discussed. You pull behind a car. Engine shuts off. Engine restarts after a certain amount of time. You then pull forward 10ft it doesn't shut off again via the auto shutoff.

Mine (Honda) shuts off when the car is stopped and the brake pedal is fully pressed down.

 

[Dezbelief]

I don't have it, but if I did, I would find a way to turn it off. You see cars in drive-thru's and it is just on and off--on and off. That would drive me crazy. That can't be good for the starter or engine in the long run.

It doesn't work that way. Auto stop only reengages after 25 seconds.

I had a 22 or 23 Kia Soul rental that auto stopped much sooner than 25 seconds.

Maybe your brand is 15 seconds, but cars dont shut off at a light or when you place an order at a drive through then you pull up ten feet and it shuts off again.

It was almost instantaneous to coming to a complete stop. I would pull into my driveway, the car would shut off before I could put it in park, then start back up when placed in park. I would then turn the car off and exit the vehicle. This was a 2022 or 2023 Kia Soul from Enterprise. The car had a keyed ignition, not a push button start.

But that's not what is being discussed. You pull behind a car. Engine shutsovided off. Engine restarts after a certain amount of time. You then pull forward 10ft it doesn't shut off again via the auto shutoff.

That was an example I provided to Ms MSUDaisy to counter her 30 second and then 15 second reply. The car would also turn off as soon as I stopped at 4 way stops too. The car would also turn off anytime I would come to a complete stop in drive. I did notice the car would stay running if I came to a complete stop in reverse.

 

[msudaisy26]

I don't have it, but if I did, I would find a way to turn it off. You see cars in drive-thru's and it is just on and off--on and off. That would drive me crazy. That can't be good for the starter or engine in the long run.

It doesn't work that way. Auto stop only reengages after 25 seconds.

I had a 22 or 23 Kia Soul rental that auto stopped much sooner than 25 seconds.

Maybe your brand is 15 seconds, but cars dont shut off at a light or when you place an order at a drive through then you pull up ten feet and it shuts off again.

It was almost instantaneous to coming to a complete stop. I would pull into my driveway, the car would shut off before I could put it in park, then start back up when placed in park. I would then turn the car off and exit the vehicle. This was a 2022 or 2023 Kia Soul from Enterprise. The car had a keyed ignition, not a push button start.

But that's not what is being discussed. You pull behind a car. Engine shutsovided off. Engine restarts after a certain amount of time. You then pull forward 10ft it doesn't shut off again via the auto shutoff.

That was an example I provided to Ms MSUDaisy to counter her 30 second and then 15 second reply. The car would also turn off as soon as I stopped at 4 way stops too. The car would also turn off anytime I would come to a complete stop in drive. I did notice the car would stay running if I came to a complete stop in reverse.

But you replied to me. I was replying to a person that said it would constantly shut off in a drive through.

 

[belljr]

I don't have it, but if I did, I would find a way to turn it off. You see cars in drive-thru's and it is just on and off--on and off. That would drive me crazy. That can't be good for the starter or engine in the long run.

It doesn't work that way. Auto stop only reengages after 25 seconds.

I had a 22 or 23 Kia Soul rental that auto stopped much sooner than 25 seconds.

Maybe your brand is 15 seconds, but cars dont shut off at a light or when you place an order at a drive through then you pull up ten feet and it shuts off again.

It was almost instantaneous to coming to a complete stop. I would pull into my driveway, the car would shut off before I could put it in park, then start back up when placed in park. I would then turn the car off and exit the vehicle. This was a 2022 or 2023 Kia Soul from Enterprise. The car had a keyed ignition, not a push button start.

But that's not what is being discussed. You pull behind a car. Engine shuts off. Engine restarts after a certain amount of time. You then pull forward 10ft it doesn't shut off again via the auto shutoff.

Mine (Honda) shuts off when the car is stopped and the brake pedal is fully pressed down.

So does my Accord but if I only move forward a few feet after it disengages the first time. The message pops up auto auto idle is disabled or something like that

 

[belljr]

I don't have it, but if I did, I would find a way to turn it off. You see cars in drive-thru's and it is just on and off--on and off. That would drive me crazy. That can't be good for the starter or engine in the long run.

It doesn't work that way. Auto stop only reengages after 25 seconds.

I had a 22 or 23 Kia Soul rental that auto stopped much sooner than 25 seconds.

Maybe your brand is 15 seconds, but cars dont shut off at a light or when you place an order at a drive through then you pull up ten feet and it shuts off again.

It was almost instantaneous to coming to a complete stop. I would pull into my driveway, the car would shut off before I could put it in park, then start back up when placed in park. I would then turn the car off and exit the vehicle. This was a 2022 or 2023 Kia Soul from Enterprise. The car had a keyed ignition, not a push button start.

But that's not what is being discussed. You pull behind a car. Engine shutsovided off. Engine restarts after a certain amount of time. You then pull forward 10ft it doesn't shut off again via the auto shutoff.

That was an example I provided to Ms MSUDaisy to counter her 30 second and then 15 second reply. The car would also turn off as soon as I stopped at 4 way stops too. The car would also turn off anytime I would come to a complete stop in drive. I did notice the car would stay running if I came to a complete stop in reverse.

Yeah that's how it works.

I'm not sure where all the confusion is.

You come to a stop, press brake pedal all the way down, auto idle engages. After a certain amount of time 10-30 second OR you let off the brake . Auto idle disengages. You then move 1 car length say in a drive thru, and stop, it doesn't usually engage again until a certain amount of time if ever

It's not the initial stop and shutoff that we are talking about time. Its the second time after you move a few feet after the first time

 

[Ron Swanson]

Have all the concerns of starter wear-and-tear proven to be a problem? Like, are starters actually requiring replacement more often?

I don’t have it, but have been annoyed by it in rentals. I just figured I was being tech averse, for no good reason.

Kinda of reminds me of my dad disliking power windows, as there were “too many things to break.” While true, that concern wasn’t a legitimate problem in most vehicles.

Do cumulative fuel savings more than offset the potential starter replacement costs?

Are there any other concerns with this feature?

ETA Looks like they’ve beefed up the system to account for wear-and-tear, and starters in cars with the start-stop feature are designed to last ~10x as long as conventional starters. The main downside is increased replacement battery cost, though I’m not sure if the beefier batteries provide other benefits to the vehicle.

Many cars with this feature have a 2nd smaller battery to support it. Generally in an inconvenient to change it location. And the entire car won't start when it goes out. Infuriating. Yeah, I'm looking at you, Jeep.

 

[Battersbox]

I've had this feature since I bought a 2017 Grand Cherokee. Took a little while to get used to it, but once you do it's not a problem. There's a feel to it certainly, but it's almost subconscious now when applying the break (if you don't depress the brake too far, the shutoff won't engage).

I used to click it off for the first couple of months, but now I don't even notice this feature. With that said though, my wife still hates it when she drives my car.