Video games...what ya playing? And what are you looking forward to? (5 Viewers)

[Don Quixote]

Just finished Uncharted 2 about a week ago. Awesome game. I've been working my way backwards. Played U3 first, and then U2. Agree U2 is the better of the two.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I've been debating whether or not its worth it to pick up a ps3 just to play this series. I'd be interested in your thoughts as you run through them.

The Uncharted series is just about all I've used my PS3 for and I think it was worth it. Really, really fun games.

 

[Steve Tasker]

Finished Dishonored tonight. I ended up with a high chaos ending, though I was trying to play a careless low chaos run (trying to play stealth where possible, but not afraid to fight when needed). I have to agree with some of the criticisms I read that the story was too predictable and played-out. The story arc was painfully obvious the entire time. I enjoyed the gameplay as it was kinda like Bioshock on steroids (maybe Bioshock 2 with the dual-wielding) but the story was nowhere near Bioshock caliber.I'd still recommend picking it up if you like Bioshock....but it's no Bioshock.I'd give it 7.5/10. Worth a low-price buy and a one-time playthrough at a minimum. I'd like to play through it for a low chaos ending, but I'm not sure I've got the patience to play it again. FWIW, I didn't get the "too short" feeling when playing it....I felt like I probably got ~30 hours of playtime; I imagine that would be much higher on a low chaos run and much lower on a full-bore high chaos run.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Finished Uncharted. Pretty quick game. A lot of standard fare. Follow the path, shoot the enemies, Jump from ledge to ledge. The characters are entertaining. The story seemed like it could have been interesting but became a little predictable. Overall its not a bad game. A little repetitive though and the controls aren't always responsive. I'd say 7 out of 10.

Make sure you play the game in Crushing Mode if you haven't already. It adds a whole other dimension to the game play in terms of battle strategy. Crushing Mode is unlocked once you complete the entire game on the hardest difficulty level.

Normally I'm all about playing on the hardest difficulty but even on Normal, the battles were annoying most of the time. Never really knew where I was getting shot from. The health is pretty ambiguous. Just guess pretty much by how much color is gone from your screen. Similar to Gears but I felt Gears did it better. And if I had to do those jetski parts on a harder setting, I might snap the controller in half. I don't know if I'd have the patience for Hard or "Crushing." Any differences to the story in crushing mode? Otherwise I'll just jump to UC2.

Ive almost always play games on the hardest setting but two nights ago I started Spec Ops: The Line - on easy. I just don't have the time or desire to replay the same levels/maps over and over again. Life is challenging enough, sometimes I just wanna plow through a game, enjoy the story, and move on to the next game. I enjoyed this so much I may just do this on the stack of games Ive been hoarding and not finishing over the past few years.

 

[Insein]

Finished Uncharted. Pretty quick game. A lot of standard fare. Follow the path, shoot the enemies, Jump from ledge to ledge. The characters are entertaining. The story seemed like it could have been interesting but became a little predictable. Overall its not a bad game. A little repetitive though and the controls aren't always responsive. I'd say 7 out of 10.

Make sure you play the game in Crushing Mode if you haven't already. It adds a whole other dimension to the game play in terms of battle strategy. Crushing Mode is unlocked once you complete the entire game on the hardest difficulty level.

Normally I'm all about playing on the hardest difficulty but even on Normal, the battles were annoying most of the time. Never really knew where I was getting shot from. The health is pretty ambiguous. Just guess pretty much by how much color is gone from your screen. Similar to Gears but I felt Gears did it better. And if I had to do those jetski parts on a harder setting, I might snap the controller in half. I don't know if I'd have the patience for Hard or "Crushing." Any differences to the story in crushing mode? Otherwise I'll just jump to UC2.

Ive almost always play games on the hardest setting but two nights ago I started Spec Ops: The Line - on easy. I just don't have the time or desire to replay the same levels/maps over and over again. Life is challenging enough, sometimes I just wanna plow through a game, enjoy the story, and move on to the next game. I enjoyed this so much I may just do this on the stack of games Ive been hoarding and not finishing over the past few years.

Same here. It's like a nerd equivalent of wanting to max out on the bench press. We just can't admit that we didn't beat it on hard. But beating Uncharted in basically 3 nights on Normal was... refreshing. I think I'm going back to a lot of games that have been shelved as well.

 

[Insein]

I've been debating whether or not its worth it to pick up a ps3 just to play this series. I'd be interested in your thoughts as you run through them.

Now I haven't played a ton of games, but Uncharted 2 is in my top 5 of all time. The opening scene is freaking awesome. I think it's worth it to pick up a PS3 for the series. You can get a used one pretty reasonably priced.

I'm only about 20 minutes into this one and already it's way better than the first. You're right, this opening scene tosses you right into the story. The way they move back and forth between past and present is nice as well. Already enjoying this so much more.

 

[Dickies]

Finished Uncharted. Pretty quick game. A lot of standard fare. Follow the path, shoot the enemies, Jump from ledge to ledge. The characters are entertaining. The story seemed like it could have been interesting but became a little predictable. Overall its not a bad game. A little repetitive though and the controls aren't always responsive. I'd say 7 out of 10. I still have Uncharted 2, Infamous 1 and 2 to go from the PS3 christmas pack.

I got the same pack and am about half way through Uncharted. Not too impressed with it so far. The story is good, but the game is extremely linear and the controls are so unresponsive that it's frustrating at times. I've heard Uncharted 2 fixes the poor controls, and is overall a much better game.

 

[5Rings]

Finished Dishonored tonight. I ended up with a high chaos ending, though I was trying to play a careless low chaos run (trying to play stealth where possible, but not afraid to fight when needed). I have to agree with some of the criticisms I read that the story was too predictable and played-out. The story arc was painfully obvious the entire time. I enjoyed the gameplay as it was kinda like Bioshock on steroids (maybe Bioshock 2 with the dual-wielding) but the story was nowhere near Bioshock caliber.I'd still recommend picking it up if you like Bioshock....but it's no Bioshock.I'd give it 7.5/10. Worth a low-price buy and a one-time playthrough at a minimum. I'd like to play through it for a low chaos ending, but I'm not sure I've got the patience to play it again. FWIW, I didn't get the "too short" feeling when playing it....I felt like I probably got ~30 hours of playtime; I imagine that would be much higher on a low chaos run and much lower on a full-bore high chaos run.

I was very surprised how easy getting the Low Chaos ending was on my 2nd run through. There were levels I didnt kill anybody. Blink, see through doors, and freeze time all help. Possession is great too.

 

[5Rings]

So in Mass Effect...is there any reason to choose the Tech team members for missions? Biotic and Combat help in fights, but what is the benefit of Tech?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Ive almost always play games on the hardest setting but two nights ago I started Spec Ops: The Line - on easy. I just don't have the time or desire to replay the same levels/maps over and over again. Life is challenging enough, sometimes I just wanna plow through a game, enjoy the story, and move on to the next game.

What did you think of Spec Ops: The Line? I thought I might enjoy that one and was condiering the purchase.

I got the same pack and am about half way through Uncharted. Not too impressed with it so far. The story is good, but the game is extremely linear and the controls are so unresponsive that it's frustrating at times. I've heard Uncharted 2 fixes the poor controls, and is overall a much better game.

I stopped playing the first Uncharted and didn't pick it up again for about a year. It still wasn't great but I'm glad I played through. Do what was just mentioned above and put it on easy and plow through.Then move on the to much better Uncharted 2.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

So in Mass Effect...is there any reason to choose the Tech team members for missions? Biotic and Combat help in fights, but what is the benefit of Tech?

I have played through three times and have never been able to figure out the benefits of Tech.

 

[NewlyRetired]

So in Mass Effect...is there any reason to choose the Tech team members for missions? Biotic and Combat help in fights, but what is the benefit of Tech?

I don't have an answer for this but I do have a question for you.When fighting, do you let the AI do most of the work for your squad members or do you pause the game via the wheel and control them?

 

[NewlyRetired]

Finished Uncharted. Pretty quick game. A lot of standard fare. Follow the path, shoot the enemies, Jump from ledge to ledge. The characters are entertaining. The story seemed like it could have been interesting but became a little predictable. Overall its not a bad game. A little repetitive though and the controls aren't always responsive. I'd say 7 out of 10.

Make sure you play the game in Crushing Mode if you haven't already. It adds a whole other dimension to the game play in terms of battle strategy. Crushing Mode is unlocked once you complete the entire game on the hardest difficulty level.

Normally I'm all about playing on the hardest difficulty but even on Normal, the battles were annoying most of the time. Never really knew where I was getting shot from. The health is pretty ambiguous. Just guess pretty much by how much color is gone from your screen. Similar to Gears but I felt Gears did it better. And if I had to do those jetski parts on a harder setting, I might snap the controller in half. I don't know if I'd have the patience for Hard or "Crushing." Any differences to the story in crushing mode? Otherwise I'll just jump to UC2.

Ive almost always play games on the hardest setting but two nights ago I started Spec Ops: The Line - on easy. I just don't have the time or desire to replay the same levels/maps over and over again. Life is challenging enough, sometimes I just wanna plow through a game, enjoy the story, and move on to the next game. I enjoyed this so much I may just do this on the stack of games Ive been hoarding and not finishing over the past few years.

Same here. It's like a nerd equivalent of wanting to max out on the bench press. We just can't admit that we didn't beat it on hard. But beating Uncharted in basically 3 nights on Normal was... refreshing. I think I'm going back to a lot of games that have been shelved as well.

I used to play games on the easiest levels and would burn through them. Then once I started paying attention to trophy's, I am kind of programmed now to always finish to a 100% trophy level if possible. Sometimes this is great because it opens up new areas or bonus levels you never would have seen by just finishing the game and other times it is a grind.There was something very satisfying though about finishing Uncharted on Crushing mode since I am a very poor gamer in general.

 

[Frank Drebin]

So in Mass Effect...is there any reason to choose the Tech team members for missions? Biotic and Combat help in fights, but what is the benefit of Tech?

If you're using Tali, her little floating decoy/probe thing is great for taking on more enemies. Or you can use her to hack enemies (only Geth) to fight for you. Those are the 2 biggest benefits I've found for tech. My go to squad in ME1 was Tali and Liara, that way I pretty much had all enemies covered.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Finished Uncharted. Pretty quick game. A lot of standard fare. Follow the path, shoot the enemies, Jump from ledge to ledge. The characters are entertaining. The story seemed like it could have been interesting but became a little predictable. Overall its not a bad game. A little repetitive though and the controls aren't always responsive. I'd say 7 out of 10.

Make sure you play the game in Crushing Mode if you haven't already. It adds a whole other dimension to the game play in terms of battle strategy. Crushing Mode is unlocked once you complete the entire game on the hardest difficulty level.

Normally I'm all about playing on the hardest difficulty but even on Normal, the battles were annoying most of the time. Never really knew where I was getting shot from. The health is pretty ambiguous. Just guess pretty much by how much color is gone from your screen. Similar to Gears but I felt Gears did it better. And if I had to do those jetski parts on a harder setting, I might snap the controller in half. I don't know if I'd have the patience for Hard or "Crushing." Any differences to the story in crushing mode? Otherwise I'll just jump to UC2.

No, the story is identical. The battles themselves play out a bit different only because nearly every bullet counts but other than that it plays out the same.I too found the health "monitor" mechanism difficult to get used to.

I can't tell you how many times I had to do the battle where you drop into the room full of water on crushing mode

I pretty much had every single wave of enemies' exact attack patterns memorized by the time I beat that one the first time through.

Much later on, I learned about a glitch that allows you to beat it relatively easily by staying up on top instead of dropping down into the water. But it's really hard to get past that area legitimately.

 

[5Rings]

I don't have an answer for this but I do have a question for you.When fighting, do you let the AI do most of the work for your squad members or do you pause the game via the wheel and control them?

When I have to go into an area blind, I've been sending them out first then I run to cover mainly because the load time when I die is brutally long.I have not tried to control them via the wheeel yet. I just figured out how to use my biotics (I'm a vanguard) in a recent battle.

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

Article in this month's Game Informer on Metro: Last Light. I know it's been delayed, but pretty interested in that story line.

Metro 2033 is a great game.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

I think I need a new Xbox game to blow off some steam. I use video games to veg after everyone goes to bed. I play alot of NCAA football, Madden (like NCAA more though, by a lot) MLB, and I just recently bought and beat LA Noire and GTA IV. Like LA Noire but it doesn't have a lot of replayability and overall I really didn't like GTA IV. They need to go back to the Vice City style and not let the game get so fricken big. And the kids play Skylanders.So I need a blowing off steam game. Not a huge fan of the war shoot em up type games even though I am a fan of Vice City. I like the story/mission feel of GTA and don't mind violence. Have no use for horror style games. If Star Wars wasn't so Kinnect heavy I'd probably get lost in it but I need relax time not another workout. Thoughts?

 

[SlaX]

I think I need a new Xbox game to blow off some steam. I use video games to veg after everyone goes to bed. I play alot of NCAA football, Madden (like NCAA more though, by a lot) MLB, and I just recently bought and beat LA Noire and GTA IV. Like LA Noire but it doesn't have a lot of replayability and overall I really didn't like GTA IV. They need to go back to the Vice City style and not let the game get so fricken big. And the kids play Skylanders.So I need a blowing off steam game. Not a huge fan of the war shoot em up type games even though I am a fan of Vice City. I like the story/mission feel of GTA and don't mind violence. Have no use for horror style games. If Star Wars wasn't so Kinnect heavy I'd probably get lost in it but I need relax time not another workout. Thoughts?

You mentioned GTA a lot in your post. I'm gonna say Saints Row the Third.

 

[GoFishTN]

Mass Effect blew me away when I first played it. I felt like I was in an epic space movie, and I really enjoyed the cut scenes and how they interacted with the story/game.To each his own I guess.

I really liked it until the driving missions or whatever. Pretty much gave up on it because that's not my idea of an RPG. I still have ME2 sitting around, never played it.

 

[SlaX]

Mass Effect blew me away when I first played it. I felt like I was in an epic space movie, and I really enjoyed the cut scenes and how they interacted with the story/game.To each his own I guess.

I really liked it until the driving missions or whatever. Pretty much gave up on it because that's not my idea of an RPG. I still have ME2 sitting around, never played it.

You don't have to drive the Mako in ME2. It's also more focused on action. Give it a try, since you already have it.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Mass Effect blew me away when I first played it. I felt like I was in an epic space movie, and I really enjoyed the cut scenes and how they interacted with the story/game.To each his own I guess.

I really liked it until the driving missions or whatever. Pretty much gave up on it because that's not my idea of an RPG. I still have ME2 sitting around, never played it.

I have the exact same criticism. Again, just watch the conversation with Vigil on Ilos on Youtube and then dive into ME2.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I think I need a new Xbox game to blow off some steam. I use video games to veg after everyone goes to bed. I play alot of NCAA football, Madden (like NCAA more though, by a lot) MLB, and I just recently bought and beat LA Noire and GTA IV. Like LA Noire but it doesn't have a lot of replayability and overall I really didn't like GTA IV. They need to go back to the Vice City style and not let the game get so fricken big. And the kids play Skylanders.So I need a blowing off steam game. Not a huge fan of the war shoot em up type games even though I am a fan of Vice City. I like the story/mission feel of GTA and don't mind violence. Have no use for horror style games. If Star Wars wasn't so Kinnect heavy I'd probably get lost in it but I need relax time not another workout. Thoughts?

Enslaved is fun even though it's a little short.Deus Ex: Human RevolutionThe Batman GamesThe Witcher 2

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I think I need a new Xbox game to blow off some steam. I use video games to veg after everyone goes to bed. I play alot of NCAA football, Madden (like NCAA more though, by a lot) MLB, and I just recently bought and beat LA Noire and GTA IV. Like LA Noire but it doesn't have a lot of replayability and overall I really didn't like GTA IV. They need to go back to the Vice City style and not let the game get so fricken big. And the kids play Skylanders.So I need a blowing off steam game. Not a huge fan of the war shoot em up type games even though I am a fan of Vice City. I like the story/mission feel of GTA and don't mind violence. Have no use for horror style games. If Star Wars wasn't so Kinnect heavy I'd probably get lost in it but I need relax time not another workout. Thoughts?

You mentioned GTA a lot in your post. I'm gonna say Saints Row the Third.

or Red Dead Redemption (aka Grand Theft Horse).

 

[Andy Dufresne]

or Red Dead Redemption (aka Grand Theft Horse).

 

[NCCommish]

I think I need a new Xbox game to blow off some steam. I use video games to veg after everyone goes to bed. I play alot of NCAA football, Madden (like NCAA more though, by a lot) MLB, and I just recently bought and beat LA Noire and GTA IV. Like LA Noire but it doesn't have a lot of replayability and overall I really didn't like GTA IV. They need to go back to the Vice City style and not let the game get so fricken big. And the kids play Skylanders.So I need a blowing off steam game. Not a huge fan of the war shoot em up type games even though I am a fan of Vice City. I like the story/mission feel of GTA and don't mind violence. Have no use for horror style games. If Star Wars wasn't so Kinnect heavy I'd probably get lost in it but I need relax time not another workout. Thoughts?

You mentioned GTA a lot in your post. I'm gonna say Saints Row the Third.

or Red Dead Redemption (aka Grand Theft Horse).

I like Red Dead a lot more than I do GTA but you are right.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

Grand Theft Horse... Sounds interesting.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Arkham City is pretty awesome, but I liked Asylum way more. I just do not see myself going back and getting all the riddler trophies and doing all the AR Training crap. There's too much and its tedious. Not getting all the trophies means that there is a whole side mission you cannot do though, right?

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Arkham City is pretty awesome, but I liked Asylum way more. I just do not see myself going back and getting all the riddler trophies and doing all the AR Training crap. There's too much and its tedious. Not getting all the trophies means that there is a whole side mission you cannot do though, right?

FINALLY!!!

 

[NewlyRetired]

This continues to be my greatest fear for the next gen systems. :(

Sony has reportedly patented technology that will prevent the use of second hand games on consoles.According to NeoGAF member gofreak, the patent application was filed on 9 December 2012 by Sony Computer Entertainment Japan, and will work by linking individual game discs to a user's account without requiring a network connection meaning any future attempt to use this disc on another user's console won't work.The use permission tag stores the terms of use of the game and determines whether a combination of the disc ID and the player ID conveyed from the reproduction device fulfils the terms of use or not.The patent explains that games will come with contactless tags that will be read by your console in much the same way as modern bank cards. When a disc is first used, the disc ID and player ID will be stored on the tag. Every time the disc is used in future, the tag will check if the two ID’s match up and, if not, then the disc won’t work.The document goes on to explain that such a device is part of Sony's ongoing efforts to deter second-hand games sales, and is a far simpler solution than always-on DRM or passwords.It's worth noting that Sony has not confirmed the existence of the device, and the patent doesn't state what machine it will be used in, with later paragraphs also mentioning accessories and peripherals.It does raise some concerns though. Firstly, the impact on game rental stores would be catastrophic as surely this means they'd no longer be able to do business? Given publishers' usual desire to keep retailers sweet by not undercutting them on prices and the like, this would be an unusual move.There's also the issue of what happens should your console break and need replacing, or if you have more than one console. Will the games be linked to your PSN account, meaning they can still be used, or the console, meaning an entire new library of titles would need to be purchased?IGN reached out to Sony for comment but was told the company doesn't comment on rumour and speculation.

 

[bro1ncos]

Not sure if this has been posted (I only looked back over the last couple pages), but Microsoft is offering a free 1600 MS points if you pre-order any of these games. http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msstore/list/parentCategoryID.50606600/categoryID.59682300?icid=XboxGame_Hero_H213_preorder

 

[shadyridr]

This continues to be my greatest fear for the next gen systems. :(

Sony has reportedly patented technology that will prevent the use of second hand games on consoles.According to NeoGAF member gofreak, the patent application was filed on 9 December 2012 by Sony Computer Entertainment Japan, and will work by linking individual game discs to a user's account without requiring a network connection meaning any future attempt to use this disc on another user's console won't work.The use permission tag stores the terms of use of the game and determines whether a combination of the disc ID and the player ID conveyed from the reproduction device fulfils the terms of use or not.The patent explains that games will come with contactless tags that will be read by your console in much the same way as modern bank cards. When a disc is first used, the disc ID and player ID will be stored on the tag. Every time the disc is used in future, the tag will check if the two ID’s match up and, if not, then the disc won’t work.The document goes on to explain that such a device is part of Sony's ongoing efforts to deter second-hand games sales, and is a far simpler solution than always-on DRM or passwords.It's worth noting that Sony has not confirmed the existence of the device, and the patent doesn't state what machine it will be used in, with later paragraphs also mentioning accessories and peripherals.It does raise some concerns though. Firstly, the impact on game rental stores would be catastrophic as surely this means they'd no longer be able to do business? Given publishers' usual desire to keep retailers sweet by not undercutting them on prices and the like, this would be an unusual move.There's also the issue of what happens should your console break and need replacing, or if you have more than one console. Will the games be linked to your PSN account, meaning they can still be used, or the console, meaning an entire new library of titles would need to be purchased?IGN reached out to Sony for comment but was told the company doesn't comment on rumour and speculation.

This would destroy gamestop.

 

[SlaX]

This continues to be my greatest fear for the next gen systems. :(

Sony has reportedly patented technology that will prevent the use of second hand games on consoles.According to NeoGAF member gofreak, the patent application was filed on 9 December 2012 by Sony Computer Entertainment Japan, and will work by linking individual game discs to a user's account without requiring a network connection meaning any future attempt to use this disc on another user's console won't work.The use permission tag stores the terms of use of the game and determines whether a combination of the disc ID and the player ID conveyed from the reproduction device fulfils the terms of use or not.The patent explains that games will come with contactless tags that will be read by your console in much the same way as modern bank cards. When a disc is first used, the disc ID and player ID will be stored on the tag. Every time the disc is used in future, the tag will check if the two ID’s match up and, if not, then the disc won’t work.The document goes on to explain that such a device is part of Sony's ongoing efforts to deter second-hand games sales, and is a far simpler solution than always-on DRM or passwords.It's worth noting that Sony has not confirmed the existence of the device, and the patent doesn't state what machine it will be used in, with later paragraphs also mentioning accessories and peripherals.It does raise some concerns though. Firstly, the impact on game rental stores would be catastrophic as surely this means they'd no longer be able to do business? Given publishers' usual desire to keep retailers sweet by not undercutting them on prices and the like, this would be an unusual move.There's also the issue of what happens should your console break and need replacing, or if you have more than one console. Will the games be linked to your PSN account, meaning they can still be used, or the console, meaning an entire new library of titles would need to be purchased?IGN reached out to Sony for comment but was told the company doesn't comment on rumour and speculation.

This would destroy gamestop.

There are many stores that deal in used games. I'm not someone who hates Gamestop, so they aren't my only concern. The entire final paragraph scares me. This would completely destroy the rest of what's left of the game rental market. And I can't recall how many games I've been turned onto through loaning or borrowing from a friend. While I have purchased a handful of used games in the past decade, I could live with only being able to buy new, but not having access to games via friend or rental would cause me to play only a fraction of the games that I do.

 

[Insein]

This continues to be my greatest fear for the next gen systems. :(

Sony has reportedly patented technology that will prevent the use of second hand games on consoles.According to NeoGAF member gofreak, the patent application was filed on 9 December 2012 by Sony Computer Entertainment Japan, and will work by linking individual game discs to a user's account without requiring a network connection meaning any future attempt to use this disc on another user's console won't work.The use permission tag stores the terms of use of the game and determines whether a combination of the disc ID and the player ID conveyed from the reproduction device fulfils the terms of use or not.The patent explains that games will come with contactless tags that will be read by your console in much the same way as modern bank cards. When a disc is first used, the disc ID and player ID will be stored on the tag. Every time the disc is used in future, the tag will check if the two ID’s match up and, if not, then the disc won’t work.The document goes on to explain that such a device is part of Sony's ongoing efforts to deter second-hand games sales, and is a far simpler solution than always-on DRM or passwords.It's worth noting that Sony has not confirmed the existence of the device, and the patent doesn't state what machine it will be used in, with later paragraphs also mentioning accessories and peripherals.It does raise some concerns though. Firstly, the impact on game rental stores would be catastrophic as surely this means they'd no longer be able to do business? Given publishers' usual desire to keep retailers sweet by not undercutting them on prices and the like, this would be an unusual move.There's also the issue of what happens should your console break and need replacing, or if you have more than one console. Will the games be linked to your PSN account, meaning they can still be used, or the console, meaning an entire new library of titles would need to be purchased?IGN reached out to Sony for comment but was told the company doesn't comment on rumour and speculation.

This would destroy gamestop.

There are many stores that deal in used games. I'm not someone who hates Gamestop, so they aren't my only concern. The entire final paragraph scares me. This would completely destroy the rest of what's left of the game rental market. And I can't recall how many games I've been turned onto through loaning or borrowing from a friend. While I have purchased a handful of used games in the past decade, I could live with only being able to buy new, but not having access to games via friend or rental would cause me to play only a fraction of the games that I do.

Gamefly would be done for new systems.

 

[fasteddie_21]

IMO systems go with the Steam model not this next gen but the one after that. We'll see though.

 

[SlaX]

Gamefly would be done for new systems.

Honestly, I've still never used Gamefly, but I keep wanting to try it. I rent most of my games from a local place where I'm nearly always guaranteed to get the game on release day. The only times I don't, it's because I didn't go in that day. They sometimes even keep game codes and manuals in with the rental until they are lost, meaning that if I'm the first to rent it, which I usually am, I technically could use the code myself. I admit, I did once.

 

[shadyridr]

This continues to be my greatest fear for the next gen systems. :(

Sony has reportedly patented technology that will prevent the use of second hand games on consoles.According to NeoGAF member gofreak, the patent application was filed on 9 December 2012 by Sony Computer Entertainment Japan, and will work by linking individual game discs to a user's account without requiring a network connection meaning any future attempt to use this disc on another user's console won't work.The use permission tag stores the terms of use of the game and determines whether a combination of the disc ID and the player ID conveyed from the reproduction device fulfils the terms of use or not.The patent explains that games will come with contactless tags that will be read by your console in much the same way as modern bank cards. When a disc is first used, the disc ID and player ID will be stored on the tag. Every time the disc is used in future, the tag will check if the two ID’s match up and, if not, then the disc won’t work.The document goes on to explain that such a device is part of Sony's ongoing efforts to deter second-hand games sales, and is a far simpler solution than always-on DRM or passwords.It's worth noting that Sony has not confirmed the existence of the device, and the patent doesn't state what machine it will be used in, with later paragraphs also mentioning accessories and peripherals.It does raise some concerns though. Firstly, the impact on game rental stores would be catastrophic as surely this means they'd no longer be able to do business? Given publishers' usual desire to keep retailers sweet by not undercutting them on prices and the like, this would be an unusual move.There's also the issue of what happens should your console break and need replacing, or if you have more than one console. Will the games be linked to your PSN account, meaning they can still be used, or the console, meaning an entire new library of titles would need to be purchased?IGN reached out to Sony for comment but was told the company doesn't comment on rumour and speculation.

This would destroy gamestop.

There are many stores that deal in used games. I'm not someone who hates Gamestop, so they aren't my only concern. The entire final paragraph scares me. This would completely destroy the rest of what's left of the game rental market. And I can't recall how many games I've been turned onto through loaning or borrowing from a friend. While I have purchased a handful of used games in the past decade, I could live with only being able to buy new, but not having access to games via friend or rental would cause me to play only a fraction of the games that I do.

wouldnt they just be able to make a "rental" version?

 

[SlaX]

wouldnt they just be able to make a "rental" version?

I guess they could. I've noticed many movies that I rent are now "rental" versions and don't have a lot of the features that you'd get if you purchase the DVD/Blu-Ray outright. If you only want to watch the movie, it's no big deal, but sometimes, I wanna see that stuff.

 

[Run It Up]

Not sure if you guys are aware, but game developers are intentionally trying to kill Gamestop/Game/Gameshop type stores. Apparently they had been working for years to try and make an agreement with the stores to receive a percentage of used game purchases and have decided instead to just kill them off.The next gen consoles (excluding Nintento) are intending to use various forms of soft DRM to make resale and purchase of used games impossible.Microsoft is supposedly moving to a cloud based storage system with a requirement to have a constant internet connection to play games or access your files (obviously.)Sony is supposedly making all purchases account bound and all games system locked (ie. each game is registered to a system and will not launch on unregistered systems.)Combination of the DRM and supposed leaked hardware specs (worse than my current PC which I built two years ago) I think ill just stick to my PC.

 

[SlaX]

Not sure if you guys are aware, but game developers are intentionally trying to kill Gamestop/Game/Gameshop type stores. Apparently they had been working for years to try and make an agreement with the stores to receive a percentage of used game purchases and have decided instead to just kill them off.The next gen consoles (excluding Nintento) are intending to use various forms of soft DRM to make resale and purchase of used games impossible.Microsoft is supposedly moving to a cloud based storage system with a requirement to have a constant internet connection to play games or access your files (obviously.)Sony is supposedly making all purchases account bound and all games system locked (ie. each game is registered to a system and will not launch on unregistered systems.)Combination of the DRM and supposed leaked hardware specs (worse than my current PC which I built two years ago) I think ill just stick to my PC.

Yes, I understand this. But I think linking your game to your PSN account would work better than to your system. Should I re-purchase my entire catalog of games just because I choose to buy a new system, have it sent in for repairs and get a refurbished system, etc. I would think it would have to work like XBLA games where the games may be tied to the system, but you can transfer the license on rare occasions. This isn't to say I like it. I still believe that once a game has been purchased, the publisher has been paid. I don't feel that the publisher has any claim to future sales of that game. For example, if someone buys a car new, sells it to me used, then after 50,000 miles or so, I sell it to someone else, should Ford/Chevy/Toyota/etc get a cut of those sales beyond the first sale?I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir. I don't know many gamers who agree with this. It's just another money grab for the publishers, and highly doubt any of the cut of those extra sales would go to the developer.

 

[Run It Up]

Not sure if you guys are aware, but game developers are intentionally trying to kill Gamestop/Game/Gameshop type stores. Apparently they had been working for years to try and make an agreement with the stores to receive a percentage of used game purchases and have decided instead to just kill them off.The next gen consoles (excluding Nintento) are intending to use various forms of soft DRM to make resale and purchase of used games impossible.Microsoft is supposedly moving to a cloud based storage system with a requirement to have a constant internet connection to play games or access your files (obviously.)Sony is supposedly making all purchases account bound and all games system locked (ie. each game is registered to a system and will not launch on unregistered systems.)Combination of the DRM and supposed leaked hardware specs (worse than my current PC which I built two years ago) I think ill just stick to my PC.

Yes, I understand this. But I think linking your game to your PSN account would work better than to your system. Should I re-purchase my entire catalog of games just because I choose to buy a new system, have it sent in for repairs and get a refurbished system, etc. I would think it would have to work like XBLA games where the games may be tied to the system, but you can transfer the license on rare occasions. This isn't to say I like it. I still believe that once a game has been purchased, the publisher has been paid. I don't feel that the publisher has any claim to future sales of that game. For example, if someone buys a car new, sells it to me used, then after 50,000 miles or so, I sell it to someone else, should Ford/Chevy/Toyota/etc get a cut of those sales beyond the first sale?I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir. I don't know many gamers who agree with this. It's just another money grab for the publishers, and highly doubt any of the cut of those extra sales would go to the developer.

I understand why they are doing it and I disagree with your comparison. I'm not a fan of any major publishers atm, EA and Activision have been the bane of the industry in my opinion, but game stores have been obnoxiously terrible as well.They sell games at full price, offer to rebuy games at a flat (LOW) rate and resell them at 10-15% off. New customers come in and are faced with two options, buy the game for 60 or buy the game for 50-45. They obviously take the cheaper one, Gamestop has also gotten in trouble quite a few times for selling used games as new, and doing everything in their power to push used copies over new copies. All of those sales give the publishers and developers zero dollars and the retailers a huge profit.Which has lead to the current business model publishers are using, which is horrendous.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Not sure if you guys are aware, but game developers are intentionally trying to kill Gamestop/Game/Gameshop type stores. Apparently they had been working for years to try and make an agreement with the stores to receive a percentage of used game purchases and have decided instead to just kill them off.The next gen consoles (excluding Nintento) are intending to use various forms of soft DRM to make resale and purchase of used games impossible.Microsoft is supposedly moving to a cloud based storage system with a requirement to have a constant internet connection to play games or access your files (obviously.)Sony is supposedly making all purchases account bound and all games system locked (ie. each game is registered to a system and will not launch on unregistered systems.)Combination of the DRM and supposed leaked hardware specs (worse than my current PC which I built two years ago) I think ill just stick to my PC.

Yes, I understand this. But I think linking your game to your PSN account would work better than to your system. Should I re-purchase my entire catalog of games just because I choose to buy a new system, have it sent in for repairs and get a refurbished system, etc. I would think it would have to work like XBLA games where the games may be tied to the system, but you can transfer the license on rare occasions. This isn't to say I like it. I still believe that once a game has been purchased, the publisher has been paid. I don't feel that the publisher has any claim to future sales of that game. For example, if someone buys a car new, sells it to me used, then after 50,000 miles or so, I sell it to someone else, should Ford/Chevy/Toyota/etc get a cut of those sales beyond the first sale?I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir. I don't know many gamers who agree with this. It's just another money grab for the publishers, and highly doubt any of the cut of those extra sales would go to the developer.

I understand why they are doing it and I disagree with your comparison. I'm not a fan of any major publishers atm, EA and Activision have been the bane of the industry in my opinion, but game stores have been obnoxiously terrible as well.

Ignoring Gamestop, his comparison works better when thinking about eBay. I buy and sell all the time on eBay. I sometimes buy new and sell and sometimes buy used and sell but in any case I can keep my costs down. There is no way I am going to be able to justify spending $60 a game net after years of spending maybe $10 net on a game. I will likely limp along playing the older generation games until they are not made any more and then bow out of gaming once these new platforms come in.

 

[Pick]

I like the steam model and would love it for Xboxes. Games take a beating around here. Best Buy used to charge you extra for what basically amounted to life insurance for your disc but no more.

 

[TxBuckeye]

There is no way I am going to be able to justify spending $60 a game net after years of spending maybe $10 net on a game. I will likely limp along playing the older generation games until they are not made any more and then bow out of gaming once these new platforms come in.

Yep, that's me too. I enjoy the games. But I buy nearly all of mine used after they have been out several months. Being a single player type of guy, this works great for me. No need to be the first kid on the block to get the game so I can level up with all the other clan folks. If the used market goes away, I'll likely go with it. Would probably make my wife super happy.

 

[Insein]

I like the steam model and would love it for Xboxes. Games take a beating around here. Best Buy used to charge you extra for what basically amounted to life insurance for your disc but no more.

I'll take the Steam model as long as they do the semi annual sales like Steam. Somehow I don't see MS, Sony or Nintendo giving deep discounts like Steam offers.

 

[jwb]

Not sure if you guys are aware, but game developers are intentionally trying to kill Gamestop/Game/Gameshop type stores. Apparently they had been working for years to try and make an agreement with the stores to receive a percentage of used game purchases and have decided instead to just kill them off.

The next gen consoles (excluding Nintento) are intending to use various forms of soft DRM to make resale and purchase of used games impossible.

Microsoft is supposedly moving to a cloud based storage system with a requirement to have a constant internet connection to play games or access your files (obviously.)

Sony is supposedly making all purchases account bound and all games system locked (ie. each game is registered to a system and will not launch on unregistered systems.)

Combination of the DRM and supposed leaked hardware specs (worse than my current PC which I built two years ago) I think ill just stick to my PC.

Yes, I understand this. But I think linking your game to your PSN account would work better than to your system. Should I re-purchase my entire catalog of games just because I choose to buy a new system, have it sent in for repairs and get a refurbished system, etc. I would think it would have to work like XBLA games where the games may be tied to the system, but you can transfer the license on rare occasions. This isn't to say I like it. I still believe that once a game has been purchased, the publisher has been paid. I don't feel that the publisher has any claim to future sales of that game. For example, if someone buys a car new, sells it to me used, then after 50,000 miles or so, I sell it to someone else, should Ford/Chevy/Toyota/etc get a cut of those sales beyond the first sale?

I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir. I don't know many gamers who agree with this. It's just another money grab for the publishers, and highly doubt any of the cut of those extra sales would go to the developer.

I understand why they are doing it and I disagree with your comparison. I'm not a fan of any major publishers atm, EA and Activision have been the bane of the industry in my opinion, but game stores have been obnoxiously terrible as well.

Ignoring Gamestop, his comparison works better when thinking about eBay. I buy and sell all the time on eBay. I sometimes buy new and sell and sometimes buy used and sell but in any case I can keep my costs down. There is no way I am going to be able to justify spending $60 a game net after years of spending maybe $10 net on a game. I will likely limp along playing the older generation games until they are not made any more and then bow out of gaming once these new platforms come in.

I guess part of me doesn't quite understand the above. I realize you work the used market quite well in keeping net costs down (and that's good), but even at retail, isn't gaming a flat-out bargain in a price-for-entertainment ratio? Compared to what I will (happily) spend on a meal out, a movie, a case of decent beer... gaming is an absolute bargain. While I too would miss the used market, paying retail ($60 for a "gotta have it now" game, and $20-$30 for older titles) would not drive me away from this hobby I enjoy so much. I'm surprised it would drive anyone who enjoys gaming away.

 

[Pick]

I like the steam model and would love it for Xboxes. Games take a beating around here. Best Buy used to charge you extra for what basically amounted to life insurance for your disc but no more.

I'll take the Steam model as long as they do the semi annual sales like Steam. Somehow I don't see MS, Sony or Nintendo giving deep discounts like Steam offers.

The discounts would be nice but what I'd be more interested in is the ability to play disc-free. However, with a few xboxes in the house I wonder if games would transfer over to other consoles or if you'd have to buy one for each console.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

I like the steam model and would love it for Xboxes. Games take a beating around here. Best Buy used to charge you extra for what basically amounted to life insurance for your disc but no more.

I'll take the Steam model as long as they do the semi annual sales like Steam. Somehow I don't see MS, Sony or Nintendo giving deep discounts like Steam offers.

The discounts would be nice but what I'd be more interested in is the ability to play disc-free. However, with a few xboxes in the house I wonder if games would transfer over to other consoles or if you'd have to buy one for each console.

They are connected to your gamertag. I use two xboxes in my house and switch back and fourth all the time, playing the same downloaded game on both. (It didn't used to be this easy as a few years ago you needed a memory card or had to "recover" your gamertag.)

 

[Run It Up]

I like the steam model and would love it for Xboxes. Games take a beating around here. Best Buy used to charge you extra for what basically amounted to life insurance for your disc but no more.

I'll take the Steam model as long as they do the semi annual sales like Steam. Somehow I don't see MS, Sony or Nintendo giving deep discounts like Steam offers.

The discounts would be nice but what I'd be more interested in is the ability to play disc-free. However, with a few xboxes in the house I wonder if games would transfer over to other consoles or if you'd have to buy one for each console.

The latter for both next gen consoles.

 

[NewlyRetired]

There is no way I am going to be able to justify spending $60 a game net after years of spending maybe $10 net on a game. I will likely limp along playing the older generation games until they are not made any more and then bow out of gaming once these new platforms come in.

Yep, that's me too. I enjoy the games. But I buy nearly all of mine used after they have been out several months. Being a single player type of guy, this works great for me. No need to be the first kid on the block to get the game so I can level up with all the other clan folks. If the used market goes away, I'll likely go with it. Would probably make my wife super happy.

Yeah it is depressing to be sure. We probably still have 3 years worth of decent gaming left. I used to only buy used games but now I have found whether I buy a used game or a new game, the net cost after sale is usually pretty close so I usually don't avoid new games and many times a new game will have a decent presale making it even better net cost after they are sold.