Wade Phillips on the way out? (1 Viewer)

[JohnnyU]

Jerry Jones contemplating coaching change?

Owner Jerry Jones suggested Sunday night that he may now be willing to reconsider his stance on firing head coach Wade Phillips before the end of the season.

Jones gave mixed signals. He insisted that "not in any way" did he want to make a coaching change. Yet he also stated that he doesn't think "there is anybody in the world who would doubt that I'm willing to do something hard ... something that doesn’t feel good to me." He also stated after Sunday's loss that he's never been more disappointed in or surprised by his team's performance. Nothing is imminent, but Jerry is now at least considering a change. Oct. 31 - 11:23 pm et

Source: Dallas Morning News

 

[Raiderfan32904]

I saw the entire interview, and Jerry seemed to want to express his embarrassment and contriteness to the fans. But he did express that he would not fire Phillips midseason, as that would not be in the best interest of the team. Nothing is going to happen soon. But he will ride this season out and I'd expect Phillips to be fired.

When Phillips said they were outplayed and outcoached, and then said "he would have made the changes to if he knew what they were", he looked like a clueless coach that didn't understand what just hit him. Phillips is a dead man walking for now.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Wade is going to get crucified in the media. Jerry has to fire him immediately. Guy was clueless after the loss. Team has given up too.

 

[Ghost Rider]

I could very well see Phillips being fired tomorrow or Tuesday, and then Jones letting Garrett take over as the interim head coach for the rest of the season, to see how the team responds to him, instead of just making him the next head coach as originally planned. If the team tanks it under him, too, Jones will kick the whole coaching staff to the curb in the offseason and find a new way to botch it next year.

 

[2Squirrels1Nut]

I could very well see Phillips being fired tomorrow or Tuesday, and then Jones letting Garrett take over as the interim head coach for the rest of the season, to see how the team responds to him, instead of just making him the next head coach as originally planned. If the team tanks it under him, too, Jones will kick the whole coaching staff to the curb in the offseason and find a new way to botch it next year.

I don't know the timing of Phillips' firing, but I do think this is what's going to happen.

 

[BigDave]

Sooner the better. He's a DC disquised as a HC.

The last few weeks his D has laid a turd bomb!

 

[Bruce Leroy]

Just as long as he stays on through next Sunday so he can lose to the Packers

 

[Bonka]

I don't see how Jones can keep him around. I also don't see how getting rid of him could make the team any worse than it already is. They're on pace to win 2 games. Dump Wade and see if someone else can get the players fired up to at least turn the season around to be respectable.

 

[2Squirrels1Nut]

I don't see how Jones can keep him around. I also don't see how getting rid of him could make the team any worse than it already is. They're on pace to win 2 games. Dump Wade and see if someone else can get the players fired up to at least turn the season around to be respectable.

It ruins the continuity.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

That's a hell of a thing.

I saw the Boys quit just like everyone else, at home (pathetic), but seeing Jones can Phillips when he (Jones) is the no. 1 man responsible for what has gone down there would be just despicable. But just watch him do it.

I say leave Wade in place - Jones has built this house, let him live in it.

 

[road warrior]

I could very well see Phillips being fired tomorrow or Tuesday, and then Jones letting Garrett take over as the interim head coach for the rest of the season, to see how the team responds to him, instead of just making him the next head coach as originally planned. If the team tanks it under him, too, Jones will kick the whole coaching staff to the curb in the offseason and find a new way to botch it next year.

This is my guess as well. There was a time when Jerry saw Garrett as the coach. He actaully hired Jason before Wade. So why not let him finish the season? Move Campo up to DC and there you have it. They have the remainder of the season. I just wish they'd put Wade out of his misery. I'm starting to feel bad for the guy.

 

[simsarge]

I think the consensus has been that Phillips has been a lame duck (short of a NFL Championship/Super Bowl) since the begining of the year. Did Phillips even give a post game interview/news conference yesterday or did just JJ speak for the team? Win or lose, Phillips has that befuddled, lost-in-the-sauce look on his face. Likely not what Jones wants as the face of the franchise. As a matter of fact, IIRC, at the beginning of the year, JJ was asked about Garett's place in the franchise. His response was something like well the family portrait will have a spot for him in the future.

 

[switz]

I think the consensus has been that Phillips has been a lame duck (short of a NFL Championship/Super Bowl) since the begining of the year. Did Phillips even give a post game interview/news conference yesterday or did just JJ speak for the team? Win or lose, Phillips has that befuddled, lost-in-the-sauce look on his face. Likely not what Jones wants as the face of the franchise. As a matter of fact, IIRC, at the beginning of the year, JJ was asked about Garett's place in the franchise. His response was something like well the family portrait will have a spot for him in the future.

I think Garrett's shine has worn off though. He seems lost as an OC, I'd hate to see him as a HC.

 

[Insein]

I could very well see Phillips being fired tomorrow or Tuesday, and then Jones letting Garrett take over as the interim head coach for the rest of the season, to see how the team responds to him, instead of just making him the next head coach as originally planned. If the team tanks it under him, too, Jones will kick the whole coaching staff to the curb in the offseason and find a new way to botch it next year.

Would be the wise decision instead of investing Head Coach money into an unproven commodity. Jones will likely try a big splash next year. He's been thouroughly embarassed after making it his goal to have a home super bowl game this year. Wade being fired is a foregone conclusion. How Bout Dem Cowboys!!!

 

[bakes]

Semi-serious question: Given the immense size of Jones' ego, would he fire Phillips and take over as coach for the rest of the year himself? Let Garrett and Campo do the coordination and try and light a fire under the players? Could it possibly be any worse than what's going on down there now? I mean, seriously, I've despised the Cowboys since I can remember and I'm starting to feel bad for them.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Jones will likely try a big splash next year.

The problem is that most "big name" coaches are going to want more control than Jerruh will want to give them. Gruden may be the one exception, as he has said "I'm not a GM."

 

[Tybeeman]

As a Steelers fan, all I have to say is Ha-Ha (Nelson Munz voice)

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

That's a hell of a thing.I saw the Boys quit just like everyone else, at home (pathetic), but seeing Jones can Phillips when he (Jones) is the no. 1 man responsible for what has gone down there would be just despicable. But just watch him do it.I say leave Wade in place - Jones has built this house, let him live in it.

Jones only fault in this one was bringing in Phillips. The guy is still coaching like it's 1985. Even on defense. We play a vanilla defense.A good head coach would have this team DEEP in the playoffs.

 

[switz]

Semi-serious question: Given the immense size of Jones' ego, would he fire Phillips and take over as coach for the rest of the year himself? Let Garrett and Campo do the coordination and try and light a fire under the players? Could it possibly be any worse than what's going on down there now? I mean, seriously, I've despised the Cowboys since I can remember and I'm starting to feel bad for them.

You know, it totally wouldn't surprise me.

 

[Judge Smails]

He has to fire Phillips now. Only way to send a loud accountability wake up call to every player on that roster

 

[Arizona Ron]

Jerry Jones contemplating coaching change?

contemplating? seriously?

 

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

I definitely think that he should fire him now. Pick up Gruden and give him half a season to get started towards next year!

 

[Avery]

Jones will likely try a big splash next year.

The problem is that most "big name" coaches are going to want more control than Jerruh will want to give them. Gruden may be the one exception, as he has said "I'm not a GM."

Didn't he hand over more control with Jimmy Johnson was head coach?

 

[Phurfur]

JJ can hire what ever coach he wants but until he hires a new GM things will continue like the last decade+.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

I could very well see Phillips being fired tomorrow or Tuesday, and then Jones letting Garrett take over as the interim head coach for the rest of the season, to see how the team responds to him, instead of just making him the next head coach as originally planned. If the team tanks it under him, too, Jones will kick the whole coaching staff to the curb in the offseason and find a new way to botch it next year.

this makes the most sense, imo.

 

[netnalp]

If I were Jones I'd fire Wade and make whomever is the nastiest, drill sergeant type on the staff as temporary coach.

Gruden is the only big name coach I think is a possibility, he's dealt with Al Davis, and my gut says Jerry would be easier to deal with than Davis. Other big name coaches won't wanna go and I'm not sure Jerry wants them. To get a coach that wants to control the whole show, would be an admission by Jerry that he's not the best option for GM, I don't see him willing to do that. Jerry's not going to accept any blame for this season.

Next season, will the Cowboys be limited to coaches that run a 3-4 or do they have the personnel to run a 4-3?

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Jones will likely try a big splash next year.

The problem is that most "big name" coaches are going to want more control than Jerruh will want to give them. Gruden may be the one exception, as he has said "I'm not a GM."

Didn't he hand over more control with Jimmy Johnson was head coach?

That was when he was a brand new owner. Has no bearing on today.Also, Jimmy left because Jerry was meddling too much, so it doesn't really prove your point anyway.

 

[Avery]

Jones will likely try a big splash next year.

The problem is that most "big name" coaches are going to want more control than Jerruh will want to give them. Gruden may be the one exception, as he has said "I'm not a GM."

Didn't he hand over more control with Jimmy Johnson was head coach?

That was when he was a brand new owner. Has no bearing on today.Also, Jimmy left because Jerry was meddling too much, so it doesn't really prove your point anyway.

Not a point. Just a question. Regardless, to make a point, doesn't the hire of Parcells ruin your point?

 

[netnalp]

Jones will likely try a big splash next year.

The problem is that most "big name" coaches are going to want more control than Jerruh will want to give them. Gruden may be the one exception, as he has said "I'm not a GM."

Didn't he hand over more control with Jimmy Johnson was head coach?

I believe he did. If you believe Jerry's drunken rant to be truthful, Parcells was hired to get public support for the new stadium.The 2 coaches Jerry has given the most control have built the best teams, but got along with Jerry the least. Seems like Jerry gets envious when the coach is getting credited with turning the team around. Question is, does Jerry want most of the credit or equal credit for success?

 

[Pots]

Jones will likely try a big splash next year.

The problem is that most "big name" coaches are going to want more control than Jerruh will want to give them. Gruden may be the one exception, as he has said "I'm not a GM."

Didn't he hand over more control with Jimmy Johnson was head coach?

I believe he did. If you believe Jerry's drunken rant to be truthful, Parcells was hired to get public support for the new stadium.The 2 coaches Jerry has given the most control have built the best teams, but got along with Jerry the least. Seems like Jerry gets envious when the coach is getting credited with turning the team around. Question is, does Jerry want most of the credit or equal credit for success?

jerry Wants success period. He gave control to coaches he may not have like dbut respected their abilities. Not many coaches out there that fits that criteria. Maybe Cowher.

 

[Mello]

Cowboys' fans can only hope that this season is finally embarrassing enough for Jerry to fire himself as GM and give the reigns over to football people. From his quotes yesterday, it's starting to sound like he might be close.

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

Cowboys' fans can only hope that this season is finally embarrassing enough for Jerry to fire himself as GM and give the reigns over to football people. From his quotes yesterday, it's starting to sound like he might be close.

As GM the talent part of the cowboys is his responsibility not the X's and O's; and talent wise the Cowboys are very well off.

 

[netnalp]

Jones will likely try a big splash next year.

The problem is that most "big name" coaches are going to want more control than Jerruh will want to give them. Gruden may be the one exception, as he has said "I'm not a GM."

Didn't he hand over more control with Jimmy Johnson was head coach?

I believe he did. If you believe Jerry's drunken rant to be truthful, Parcells was hired to get public support for the new stadium.The 2 coaches Jerry has given the most control have built the best teams, but got along with Jerry the least. Seems like Jerry gets envious when the coach is getting credited with turning the team around. Question is, does Jerry want most of the credit or equal credit for success?

jerry Wants success period. He gave control to coaches he may not have like dbut respected their abilities. Not many coaches out there that fits that criteria. Maybe Cowher.

If that were the case, wouldn't he get an outstanding coach and GM, limit his involvement and sit back and collect trophies like Kraft and the Rooneys? If Jerry behaved like them, an advantage he may have is his willingness to pay his players. Instead, he behaves like Al Davis which appears to be to the detriment of the team.

 

[fatness]

Semi-serious question: Given the immense size of Jones' ego, would he fire Phillips and take over as coach for the rest of the year himself? Let Garrett and Campo do the coordination and try and light a fire under the players? Could it possibly be any worse than what's going on down there now? I mean, seriously, I've despised the Cowboys since I can remember and I'm starting to feel bad for them.

This would be so awesome.

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

Semi-serious question: Given the immense size of Jones' ego, would he fire Phillips and take over as coach for the rest of the year himself? Let Garrett and Campo do the coordination and try and light a fire under the players? Could it possibly be any worse than what's going on down there now? I mean, seriously, I've despised the Cowboys since I can remember and I'm starting to feel bad for them.

This would be so awesome.

This would be the greatest move in the entire history of the NFL. I would pay money to see it.

 

[Don Quixote]

In terms of someone on the staff, I think Pasqualoni would make most sense as mid-season replacement. I thought he was a pretty good HC when he was at Syracuse.

 

[Ghost Rider]

and talent wise the Cowboys are very well off.

They are? How talented is their offensive line? Sure, they are set at the skill positions, but that doesn't mean squat unless you have the horses up front to protect the QB and open up holes for the RBs, and this year's Cowboys team is demonstrating that.

 

[Dexter Manley]

The shark move would be for Jerry to fire Wade, promote Garrett on an interim (who I think would actually make a better head coach than OC), and promote Pasqualoni to DC (he was DC of the Miami and former HC of Syracuse).

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

and talent wise the Cowboys are very well off.

They are? How talented is their offensive line? Sure, they are set at the skill positions, but that doesn't mean squat unless you have the horses up front to protect the QB and open up holes for the RBs, and this year's Cowboys team is demonstrating that.

Oh I agree their OL is offensive and they could use some help at RB.But when you compare the talent level to other clubs it seems that the cowboys are more toward the top talent wise than the bottom.

 

[steelwind]

Since Jerry gave contracts to most of Cowboys players, the only person he can let go at this point is Wade Phillips. It's gonna happen this year.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

You know what...

...maybe Wade Phillips hasn't lost this team...

....maybe JERRY JONES has lost this team.

 

[Sweetness_34]

Maybe people will realize that those players are not really that good. Keep looking elsewhere for the problem.

 

[Raider Nation]

Wade should be fired at halftime.

On the heels of not trying at all last week vs. Jacksonville, they are REALLY not trying tonight.

 

[Texasmouth]

You know what......maybe Wade Phillips hasn't lost this team.......maybe JERRY JONES has lost this team.

Last years mess of a draft, trading for useless Roy Williams, and not addressing the offensive line and defensive backfield early in the last two drafts are the GM's fault not Wade's. Jerry should fire himself first, then Wade.

 

[Richard_the_Vampire]

Jerry should fire the entire team and rent out the top UFL squad. At least they would try to win.

 

[Ice Cream Man]

I don't know who you replace Phillips with. Garrett is part of the problem. I think you need to clean house, which most likely can't happen until the end of the season.

At the same time, this isn't fantasy football. Fans pay to see the team play and they want a competitive team, or at least feel the ownership is trying their best to make that happen. I'm not sure Jerry can wait that long to make a move.

Best case scenario is to promote somebody in house, then bring in a new staff next season.

[Of course I think Cowboys were winning in spite of Phillips for years]

 

[ourmanflint]

JJ can hire what ever coach he wants but until he hires a new GM things will continue like the last decade+.

The only statement in this thread that actually makes sense.Jerry is a horrible GM. He is now approaching Millen status. If he continues along this path he will ruin everything he built in the 90's.Doesn't matter what he does with his coach now or in the future unless he truly turns over the reins.

 

[Jason Wood]

The problem Jerry has is that Wade is the DC as well as the HC. Even if he felt like Garrett deserved a shot at the HC role (and why would he?), by firing Phillips midseason you're also asking a non-coordinator to step into both roles (replacing Garrett and Phillips). Can that possibly make things better?

 

[Banger]

The problem Jerry has is that Wade is the DC as well as the HC. Even if he felt like Garrett deserved a shot at the HC role (and why would he?), by firing Phillips midseason you're also asking a non-coordinator to step into both roles (replacing Garrett and Phillips). Can that possibly make things better?

can they get worse?

 

[Phurfur]

Maybe people will realize that those players are not really that good. Keep looking elsewhere for the problem.

I've been beat up pretty good for saying this in the past.