Wait? I can't bring my AR-15 in with me to Chili's? (1 Viewer)

[Arizona Ron]

I'm all for gun rights but COME ON!!!:

Is the NRA going soft? If you’re a hardcore pro-gun activist in Texas who likes to show up at Jack in the Box and scare customers with your assault rifle then the answer, it seems, is yes.

For the past few months, zealous Second Amendment lovers, led mostly by the group Open Carry Texas, have been staging demonstrations at various chain restaurants, arriving en masse at places like Chipotle and Chili’s and demanding to be served while brandishing long guns. In some towns, Open Carry Texas members have also taken to wandering around busy intersections armed with rifles and handing out tiny copies of the Constitution to passing drivers.

It’s not totally clear what these protests are supposed to accomplish, but it’s safe to say that they’re not working. Mostly they've managed to frighten fast-food workers and customers and get guns banned from eateries that had previously tolerated firearms. Both Jack in the Box and Chipotle have now adopted no-guns-in-our-restaurants policies in response to open carry demonstrations in Texas last month. On Friday, Chili’s and Sonic also asked customers to leave their assault at home after Open Carry Texas posted videos on YouTube of its gun-slinging members being refused service.

Is the NRA going soft? If you’re a hardcore pro-gun activist in Texas who likes to show up at Jack in the Box and scare customers with your assault rifle then the answer, it seems, is yes.

For the past few months, zealous Second Amendment lovers, led mostly by the group Open Carry Texas, have been staging demonstrations at various chain restaurants, arriving en masse at places like Chipotle and Chili’s and demanding to be served while brandishing long guns. In some towns, Open Carry Texas members have also taken to wandering around busy intersections armed with rifles and handing out tiny copies of the Constitution to passing drivers.

It’s not totally clear what these protests are supposed to accomplish, but it’s safe to say that they’re not working. Mostly they've managed to frighten fast-food workers and customers and get guns banned from eateries that had previously tolerated firearms. Both Jack in the Box and Chipotle have now adopted no-guns-in-our-restaurants policies in response to open carry demonstrations in Texas last month. On Friday, Chili’s and Sonic also asked customers to leave their assault at home after Open Carry Texas posted videos on YouTube of its gun-slinging members being refused service.

http://www.vice.com/read/even-the-nra-thinks-its-a-bad-idea-to-wave-your-gun-around-at-chilis?utm_source=vicefbus

 

[jon_mx]

First they take away your right to bear arms. Then they take away your right to bare breasts. We must nip these Nazi gun-grabbers in the bud.

 

[NCCommish]

Needs some editing.

Basically the NRA finally met a bridge to far and call out these #######s after they looked like compete idiots and were run out of places by customers.

When will people realize one of the biggest victories towns won were when people didn't have to worry that every jerk off and their brother was carrying a gun?

 

[dozer]

Big gun, small weiner.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Needs some editing.

Basically the NRA finally met a bridge to far and call out these #######s after they looked like compete idiots and were run out of places by customers.

When will people realize one of the biggest victories towns won were when people didn't have to worry that every jerk off and their brother was carrying a gun?

Well, yeah. But those guys lived in a world where brown people and terrorists (kidding -- same thing!! amirite?!) knew their place.

 

[Otis]

People are so incredibly stupid.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

Yes lets worry about guns instead of the real killer of thousands

 

[bigbottom]

God bless Texas!

 

[[icon]]

2nd amendment advocate here....

These dickmittens running into restaurants open carrying long rifles need to be drawn and quartered. Some folks are attempting to project the image that many gun owners are responsible, rational individuals who receive training, know the law, handle and store their weapons responsibly.

And then these ####ers come along and undo years of work.

Morons.

 

[Gawain]

Needs some editing.

Basically the NRA finally met a bridge to far and call out these #######s after they looked like compete idiots and were run out of places by customers.

When will people realize one of the biggest victories towns won were when people didn't have to worry that every jerk off and their brother was carrying a gun?

Just saying the murder rate in Baltimore of modern times is way higher than the murder rate of the "Wild, Wild West." (Both the actual version and the Will Smith version.)

 

[metoo]

I was watching a show on Fox News this weekend and the host and an analyst supported the activist. Craziness.

 

[Arizona Ron]

Needs some editing.

Basically the NRA finally met a bridge to far and call out these #######s after they looked like compete idiots and were run out of places by customers.

When will people realize one of the biggest victories towns won were when people didn't have to worry that every jerk off and their brother was carrying a gun?

Just saying the murder rate in Baltimore of modern times is way higher than the murder rate of the "Wild, Wild West." (Both the actual version and the Will Smith version.)

Do you think the increased population has anything to do with that?

 

[NCCommish]

Needs some editing.

Basically the NRA finally met a bridge to far and call out these #######s after they looked like compete idiots and were run out of places by customers.

When will people realize one of the biggest victories towns won were when people didn't have to worry that every jerk off and their brother was carrying a gun?

Just saying the murder rate in Baltimore of modern times is way higher than the murder rate of the "Wild, Wild West." (Both the actual version and the Will Smith version.)

Per capita?

 

[Gawain]

Needs some editing.

Basically the NRA finally met a bridge to far and call out these #######s after they looked like compete idiots and were run out of places by customers.

When will people realize one of the biggest victories towns won were when people didn't have to worry that every jerk off and their brother was carrying a gun?

Just saying the murder rate in Baltimore of modern times is way higher than the murder rate of the "Wild, Wild West." (Both the actual version and the Will Smith version.)

Per capita?

Per capita, an adult in Oregon between 1850 and 1865 had a lower chance of being murdered than an adult in 2012 in the following cities:

Detroit, New Orleans, St Louis, Baltimore.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Needs some editing.

Basically the NRA finally met a bridge to far and call out these #######s after they looked like compete idiots and were run out of places by customers.

When will people realize one of the biggest victories towns won were when people didn't have to worry that every jerk off and their brother was carrying a gun?

Just saying the murder rate in Baltimore of modern times is way higher than the murder rate of the "Wild, Wild West." (Both the actual version and the Will Smith version.)

Per capita?

Gun violence shouldn't necessarily be measured per capita since it requires interactions between humans. The denser the population, the more interactions people have with other people that could end in violence. You can see some correlation here between population density and gun murder rate here, although obviously there's other factors at work.

 

[timschochet]

Murder rates are always going to be higher in urban areas, because more people live closer together. What's your point?

 

[tommyGunZ]

2nd amendment advocate here....

These dickmittens running into restaurants open carrying long rifles need to be drawn and quartered. Some folks are attempting to project the image that many gun owners are responsible, rational individuals who receive training, know the law, handle and store their weapons responsibly.

And then these ####ers come along and undo years of work.

Morons.

Why? There are zero reports of these folks engaging in violence or using their weapons. They are simply exercising their Constitutional rights. Guns don't kill people, right? Big fan of the open carry movement here.

 

[QuizGuy66]

Needs some editing.

Basically the NRA finally met a bridge to far and call out these #######s after they looked like compete idiots and were run out of places by customers.

When will people realize one of the biggest victories towns won were when people didn't have to worry that every jerk off and their brother was carrying a gun?

Just saying the murder rate in Baltimore of modern times is way higher than the murder rate of the "Wild, Wild West." (Both the actual version and the Will Smith version.)

Per capita?

Per capita, an adult in Oregon between 1850 and 1865 had a lower chance of being murdered than an adult in 2012 in the following cities:

Detroit, New Orleans, St Louis, Baltimore.

Oregon? I remember all the wild west movies set in Oregon.

-QG

 

[Clifford]

Keep your prosthetic **** in your pants you ####### losers

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

2nd amendment advocate here....

These dickmittens running into restaurants open carrying long rifles need to be drawn and quartered. Some folks are attempting to project the image that many gun owners are responsible, rational individuals who receive training, know the law, handle and store their weapons responsibly.

And then these ####ers come along and undo years of work.

Morons.

Why? There are zero reports of these folks engaging in violence or using their weapons. They are simply exercising their Constitutional rights. Guns don't kill people, right?Big fan of the open carry movement here.

Certainly puts the NRA in a bad spot. After arguing for decades that any common-sense limits were unconstitutional they finally found one they don't like.

 

[QuizGuy66]

Needs some editing.

Basically the NRA finally met a bridge to too far and call out these #######s ########s after they looked like compete idiots and were run out of places by customers.

When will people realize one of the biggest victories towns won were in civilized society was when people didn't have stopped having to worry that every jerk off and their brother or sister was carrying a gun?

Fixed gb

I agree that when even the NRA thinks you've gone too crazy that just about says it all.

-QG

 

[Hastur]

2nd amendment advocate here....

These dickmittens running into restaurants open carrying long rifles need to be drawn and quartered. Some folks are attempting to project the image that many gun owners are responsible, rational individuals who receive training, know the law, handle and store their weapons responsibly.

And then these ####ers come along and undo years of work.

Morons.

Why? There are zero reports of these folks engaging in violence or using their weapons. They are simply exercising their Constitutional rights. Guns don't kill people, right?Big fan of the open carry movement here.

It's the threat of violence that people are objecting to.

 

[ZenMaster]

2nd amendment advocate here....

These dickmittens running into restaurants open carrying long rifles need to be drawn and quartered. Some folks are attempting to project the image that many gun owners are responsible, rational individuals who receive training, know the law, handle and store their weapons responsibly.

And then these ####ers come along and undo years of work.

Morons.

Why? There are zero reports of these folks engaging in violence or using their weapons. They are simply exercising their Constitutional rights. Guns don't kill people, right?Big fan of the open carry movement here.

If some guy walks into Chipotle or whatever restaurant I'm in and he's carrying an assault rifle, I'm leaving.

How am I supposed to know he's just supporting open carry or if he's about to start shooting?

 

[QuizGuy66]

Wonder how the folks in Texas would feel if these were the guys branishing their guns all over the place:

http://www.theonion.com/articles/retired-s1ws-recalled-to-active-duty,2060/

-QG

 

[QuizGuy66]

I'm sure the open carry movement will mesh REAL well with the stand your ground people

-QG

 

[avoiding injuries]

Murder rates are always going to be higher in urban areas, because more people live closer together. What's your point?

You think that's the reason, proximity? The per capita stats would disagree.

 

[avoiding injuries]

2nd amendment advocate here....

These dickmittens running into restaurants open carrying long rifles need to be drawn and quartered. Some folks are attempting to project the image that many gun owners are responsible, rational individuals who receive training, know the law, handle and store their weapons responsibly.

And then these ####ers come along and undo years of work.

Morons.

Why? There are zero reports of these folks engaging in violence or using their weapons. They are simply exercising their Constitutional rights. Guns don't kill people, right?Big fan of the open carry movement here.

If some guy walks into Chipotle or whatever restaurant I'm in and he's carrying an assault rifle, I'm leaving.

How am I supposed to know he's just supporting open carry or if he's about to start shooting?

Absolutely. No questions asked, no hesitation. I'm out of there.

 

[igbomb]

Can we just let Texas go? Some of them so badly want to be their own country that we should just wish them luck and let them at it. You could double my salary and I wouldn't move there.

 

[Clifford]

Icon, this is why I am against the 2nd ammendment. For every sane responsible gun owner there is probably at least one or more total freaking ######## turds like these morons that are armed to the teeth. Human beings, especially American human beings, are simply too impossibly stupid to be trusted with sharp spoons, let alone guns. And it seems that gun ownership has the capacity to make some of them even more stupid than they would have been without guns (see Cliven Bundy ranch).

 

[Homer J Simpson]

Needs some editing.

Basically the NRA finally met a bridge to far and call out these #######s after they looked like compete idiots and were run out of places by customers.

When will people realize one of the biggest victories towns won were when people didn't have to worry that every jerk off and their brother was carrying a gun?

Just saying the murder rate in Baltimore of modern times is way higher than the murder rate of the "Wild, Wild West." (Both the actual version and the Will Smith version.)

Per capita?

Per capita, an adult in Oregon between 1850 and 1865 had a lower chance of being murdered than an adult in 2012 in the following cities:

Detroit, New Orleans, St Louis, Baltimore.

So it was more dangerous than all but four current cities?

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

2nd amendment advocate here....

Is there anyone who isn't an advocate of the 2nd Amendment?

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Icon, this is why I am against the 2nd ammendment.

I stand corrected.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

Icon, this is why I am against the 2nd ammendment.

I stand corrected.

You uhhh....jumped the gun there, buddy.

 

[fantasycurse42]

If someone has a carry permit fine, carry your ####### gun, but no need to be an ####### and brandish it.

If I was sitting in a ####### Applebees with the wife and kid and someone comes in who isn't LE carrying an assault rifle, I am taking my family and leaving quickly - These open carry Texas #######s are all nuts who apparently have extremely poor judgement... I'd be very happy to see them stripped of their carry permits.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Icon, this is why I am against the 2nd ammendment.

I stand corrected.

You uhhh....jumped the gun there, buddy.

That's what she said.

 

[NCCommish]

2nd amendment advocate here....

These dickmittens running into restaurants open carrying long rifles need to be drawn and quartered. Some folks are attempting to project the image that many gun owners are responsible, rational individuals who receive training, know the law, handle and store their weapons responsibly.

And then these ####ers come along and undo years of work.

Morons.

Why? There are zero reports of these folks engaging in violence or using their weapons. They are simply exercising their Constitutional rights. Guns don't kill people, right?Big fan of the open carry movement here.

Because it's unnecessary, it makes other people fearful and results in situations with the potential for violence. Leave your ####### rifles at home scaredy cat.

 

[tommyGunZ]

2nd amendment advocate here....

These dickmittens running into restaurants open carrying long rifles need to be drawn and quartered. Some folks are attempting to project the image that many gun owners are responsible, rational individuals who receive training, know the law, handle and store their weapons responsibly.

And then these ####ers come along and undo years of work.

Morons.

Why? There are zero reports of these folks engaging in violence or using their weapons. They are simply exercising their Constitutional rights. Guns don't kill people, right?Big fan of the open carry movement here.

Because it's unnecessary, it makes other people fearful and results in situations with the potential for violence. Leave your ####### rifles at home scaredy cat.

Your beef is with the law. If only there was a way to heighten awareness and influence voters to change the law.

 

[3C's]

If someone has a carry permit fine, carry your ####### gun, but no need to be an ####### and brandish it.

If I was sitting in a ####### Applebees with the wife and kid and someone comes in who isn't LE carrying an assault rifle, I am taking my family and leaving quickly - These open carry Texas #######s are all nuts who apparently have extremely poor judgement... I'd be very happy to see them stripped of their carry permits.

Good chance a "few" of these open carry nutjobs can't get a concealed carry.

 

[NutterButter]

2nd amendment advocate here....

These dickmittens running into restaurants open carrying long rifles need to be drawn and quartered. Some folks are attempting to project the image that many gun owners are responsible, rational individuals who receive training, know the law, handle and store their weapons responsibly.

And then these ####ers come along and undo years of work.

Morons.

Why? There are zero reports of these folks engaging in violence or using their weapons. They are simply exercising their Constitutional rights. Guns don't kill people, right?Big fan of the open carry movement here.

Because it's unnecessary, it makes other people fearful and results in situations with the potential for violence. Leave your ####### rifles at home scaredy cat.

Yeah, I don't know how you can't just be a little on edge when in a public place surrounded by a bunch of folks carrying assault rifles. Who the heck wants to live like that.

 

[Guest]

Icon, this is why I am against the 2nd ammendment. For every sane responsible gun owner there is probably at least one or more total freaking ######## turds like these morons that are armed to the teeth. Human beings, especially American human beings, are simply too impossibly stupid to be trusted with sharp spoons, let alone guns. And it seems that gun ownership has the capacity to make some of them even more stupid than they would have been without guns (see Cliven Bundy ranch).

I think your numbers are skewed. There are probably >100 responsible gun owners to every nut.

 

[3C's]

The PR guy for Open Carry Texas was on CNN and said they have a new "game plan" so maybe they got the message.

 

[NCCommish]

2nd amendment advocate here....

These dickmittens running into restaurants open carrying long rifles need to be drawn and quartered. Some folks are attempting to project the image that many gun owners are responsible, rational individuals who receive training, know the law, handle and store their weapons responsibly.

And then these ####ers come along and undo years of work.

Morons.

Why? There are zero reports of these folks engaging in violence or using their weapons. They are simply exercising their Constitutional rights. Guns don't kill people, right?Big fan of the open carry movement here.

Because it's unnecessary, it makes other people fearful and results in situations with the potential for violence. Leave your ####### rifles at home scaredy cat.

Yeah, I don't know how you can't just be a little on edge when in a public place surrounded by a bunch of folks carrying assault rifles. Who the heck wants to live like that.

Only the fondlers.

 

[Jackstraw]

Needs some editing.

Basically the NRA finally met a bridge to far and call out these #######s after they looked like compete idiots and were run out of places by customers.

When will people realize one of the biggest victories towns won were when people didn't have to worry that every jerk off and their brother was carrying a gun?

NRA is nothing but a front for the gun lobby to keep the guns flowing. These guys have been the NRA's useful idiots for a long time. The minute they are bad for business? Straight under the bus.

It's really that simple.

 

[Jackstraw]

2nd amendment advocate here....

These dickmittens running into restaurants open carrying long rifles need to be drawn and quartered. Some folks are attempting to project the image that many gun owners are responsible, rational individuals who receive training, know the law, handle and store their weapons responsibly.

And then these ####ers come along and undo years of work.

Morons.

Why? There are zero reports of these folks engaging in violence or using their weapons. They are simply exercising their Constitutional rights. Guns don't kill people, right?Big fan of the open carry movement here.

Because it's unnecessary, it makes other people fearful and results in situations with the potential for violence. Leave your ####### rifles at home scaredy cat.

Yeah, I don't know how you can't just be a little on edge when in a public place surrounded by a bunch of folks carrying assault rifles. Who the heck wants to live like that.

Only the fondlers.

I believe the current terms du jour are muzzlestrokers or ammosexuals.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

If I'm sitting in a Chili's (god forbid) and a dude walks in carrying an AK47, there is a very small but very real chance I jump up and stab him in the neck.

 

[Clifford]

Icon, this is why I am against the 2nd ammendment. For every sane responsible gun owner there is probably at least one or more total freaking ######## turds like these morons that are armed to the teeth. Human beings, especially American human beings, are simply too impossibly stupid to be trusted with sharp spoons, let alone guns. And it seems that gun ownership has the capacity to make some of them even more stupid than they would have been without guns (see Cliven Bundy ranch).

I think your numbers are skewed. There are probably >100 responsible gun owners to every nut.

Well, I'm not advocating a serious position here, but isn't or shouldn't intimidating the public for no reason at all grounds for having your right to own a gun revoked?

TL;dr should be a privilege not a right because the are enough stupid #######s like these that it should earned, not given.

 

[Clifford]

Icon, this is why I am against the 2nd ammendment. For every sane responsible gun owner there is probably at least one or more total freaking ######## turds like these morons that are armed to the teeth. Human beings, especially American human beings, are simply too impossibly stupid to be trusted with sharp spoons, let alone guns. And it seems that gun ownership has the capacity to make some of them even more stupid than they would have been without guns (see Cliven Bundy ranch).

I think your numbers are skewed. There are probably >100 responsible gun owners to every nut.

Even with that ratio the # of nuts would be huge no? How many legal gun permit holders of any type are there in the US?

 

[[icon]]

For every sane responsible gun owner there is probably at least one or more total freaking ######## turds like these morons that are armed to the teeth.

• Current estimates put gun ownership in US to be 70-80 Million adults.

• Gun crime has been in pretty consistent decline

 

[[icon]]

Icon, this is why I am against the 2nd ammendment. For every sane responsible gun owner there is probably at least one or more total freaking ######## turds like these morons that are armed to the teeth. Human beings, especially American human beings, are simply too impossibly stupid to be trusted with sharp spoons, let alone guns. And it seems that gun ownership has the capacity to make some of them even more stupid than they would have been without guns (see Cliven Bundy ranch).

I think your numbers are skewed. There are probably >100 responsible gun owners to every nut.

Numbers of gun crime vs ownership puts the number substantially closer to 10,000 to 1, but yep.

And that's assuming blame on the gun in all cases, and that those crimes would not have been committed absent a firearm... a false assumption.

Bottom line is, despite media sensationalism.... the "gun" situation has gotten dramatically better over the last couple decades, not worse... and the numbers of responsible gun owners outnumber the nuts by staggering amounts.

However crap like this makes better headlines than "Jimmy keeps his guns locked up and uses them to hunt ducks and sport shoot at the range in a safe and controlled manner".... so people prone to sensationalism are easily manipulated into lather.

 

[Clifford]

The PR guy for Open Carry Texas was on CNN and said they have a new "game plan" so maybe they got the message.

New game plan: "Crap...what now?"