Timmay
Footballguy
With Jeff Wilson hurting his knee pregame last night, I'd be more confident in Wright getting some touches than Corum. Wright looked fast in his limited touches last night.
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With Jeff Wilson hurting his knee pregame last night, I'd be more confident in Wright getting some touches than Corum. Wright looked fast in his limited touches last night.
jm192
Footballguy
The Tua injury has really hampered Hill, Waddle, and now even Achane. Even with more touches, I'm not sure Wright is someone you're going to be comfortable using with Tua out. I'd drop Wright and maybe look to pick him back up closer to the time Tua is activated. If someone else beats you to him, oh well. We're 4 weeks into a 14 game regular season. Need players that help now.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I believe you have to fade all Miami skill players to some degree until they figure out their QB situation. Of course that is captain obvious.
jm192
Footballguy
Agreed.
I don't think you can play any of them. I had hoped for my Achane shares--that the poor QB play would mean more dump offs. He hasn't had that many and he can't get going when he does get them. Total systems failure right now. If I've got another remotely competent option, I'm benching them all.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Wicks and it isn't close.
zamboni
Footballguy
I'm thinking 15-20% for Wicks, but want to see what the buzz is out there.
jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
These guys are all on your waiver wire?? Thats incredible. Does your league have very few bench spots?
chad in Indy
Footballguy
I might be inclined to go the other way. They can't keep running the same offense without Tua. They need to go more traditional with runs between the tackles. The RPO is dead
They need to restructure the offense. It is too complex and relies on Tua to diagnose and execute. All the motions and movement isn't doing anything without a QB that can interpret the defensvie reaction to those motions. After last night's game, I am anticpating a more traditional (simple) play calling. I think Wright gets more time moving forward. Achane is not a guy you want to running between the tackles on volume. I think Wright would be more valuable than Corum because of that. If you want a homerun on your bench, keep Corum. If you want a flex player moving forward, go with Wright.
Yep. At that time Cowboys were already all in on Lamb (drafted in 2020).
So there was very little urgency. They traded Cooper for cheap.
Fast forward to today if the Browns understand the situation that KC needs a WR to take the underneath routes that Rice had a specific role for.
They'd ask for a 3rd rounder.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Of what budget?
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I agree with the above statement, "They can't keep running the same offense without Tua". Sounds to me that the so-called genius is trying to make his QB fit the scheme, rather than fit the scheme to his QB.
WaltonGoggins
Footballguy
They are still "we think we have a shot" mode will take more losses where it's obvious there's no hope this year to entertain a deal or that signals to season ticket holders we out this season after 4 games. Would look at teams like TEN, yes same record as CLE, but the are a mess. Trading Hopkins to KC would make a lot more sense.
All that said think KC attitude is we can plug and play with what we got we won a SB so why not again.
Jacob's Ladder
Footballguy
Keaton Mitchell? How's rehab coming?
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I would have thought that train left the station last week when Adams was hurt and missed the game.
WaltonGoggins
Footballguy
Depends on your league size / how competitive it is etc. but in my 18 team league where there's little the interesting pickups for me would be in no particular order:
JuJu - at least might get more targets for PPR leagues
Cordarrelle (if injury isn't serious)
Ricky Pearsall (can return as soon as Week 5 which may or may not happen)
Bigsby (looked like best back vs. Texans)
Benson (with RB going down can't see anyone surprised he gets a starting shot at some point)
Eric All Jr / Barner for backup TE
Olamide - one game wonder?
McNicols - one game wonder?
Bobo - love the name and looked solid MNF
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JuJu - at least might get more targets for PPR leagues
Cordarrelle (if injury isn't serious)
Ricky Pearsall (can return as soon as Week 5 which may or may not happen)
Bigsby (looked like best back vs. Texans)
Benson (with RB going down can't see anyone surprised he gets a starting shot at some point)
Eric All Jr / Barner for backup TE
Olamide - one game wonder?
McNicols - one game wonder?
Bobo - love the name and looked solid MNF
Noah Brown
downsouth
Footballguy
Shallow bench for sure. I’m thinking…
Williams>Hunt>Hill>Dowdle
Not a huge difference though.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
What about Justin Watson? He's not sexy, but you never know.
zoonation
Footballguy
$100
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
zoonation
Footballguy
I've got a feeling that given the long term nature of the Watson injury, This guy is right behind Mason as the biggest pickup of the year so far.
Huh?
Golden Gopher
Footballguy
I'm cautiously optimistic that Rice's injury is going to benefit Kelce more than anyone else. When all else fails, Mahomes tends to look for Kelce. Obviously, Worthy should get more looks as well. As for the rest of KC (Juju, Watson), I feel like we've all seen them before and they are what they are. Neither will be consistent enough to roster other than in the deepest of leagues.
Guys I'm looking at this week....
Wicks (although he's gone in most of mine). Where he's available, I'm bidding. Happy I stashed him in a bunch of leagues at the beginning of this year.
Barner (SEA TE) - Looked as good as Fant last night. If you need TE help, he's probably worth a look.
All (CIN TE) - No, not all of the TE position, but rather Erick All. Another Iowa TE, who happened to slip in the draft to the fourth round. Three straight weeks of four targets, and he's caught all twelve of them. Not huge production, but at the TE position, beggars can't be choosers (or whatever that saying is).
Hill BAL - Not sure he's a handcuff to Henry, but if nothing else, he's at least a decent flex/bye week play, I would think.
Roschon Johnson - In deep leagues, he is at least now showing a sign of life and, in my opinion, is the clear #2 in CHI. Which, prior to this week, didn't mean much. But, if I'm desperate for RB depth (again, deeper leagues), I'll grab him for free or a buck and stash him.
Whittington/Atwell/Robinson - Probably in that order, and depending on league size/format. No idea what the status of Kupp and Nacua are, so these guys should continue to see time/targets.
Mooney/McCloud ATL - Targets this year - London 31, Mooney 24, McCloud 22, Pitts 15. Clearly, these guys are the top options after London, and very much in the mix on a weekly basis.
Tucker LVR - Scored two weeks in a row. If Adams DOES get traded, that's a bonus. Either way, I think he has earned at least the WR3 role in LVR. Stash in some leagues, maybe startable in others.
MIN/GB/DEN/CHI Team DST - The first three are looking like almost every-week plays. None have a week with less than 8 points (in fairly standard scoring), and MIN and DEN have hit double digits in 3 out of 4. CHI is right on the cusp, with 7-7-9 in the last three weeks, despite having an offense that has struggled at times. In leagues where I can roster multiple D's, I'm looking to stash at least one of these four.
Guys I'm looking at this week....
Wicks (although he's gone in most of mine). Where he's available, I'm bidding. Happy I stashed him in a bunch of leagues at the beginning of this year.
Barner (SEA TE) - Looked as good as Fant last night. If you need TE help, he's probably worth a look.
All (CIN TE) - No, not all of the TE position, but rather Erick All. Another Iowa TE, who happened to slip in the draft to the fourth round. Three straight weeks of four targets, and he's caught all twelve of them. Not huge production, but at the TE position, beggars can't be choosers (or whatever that saying is).
Hill BAL - Not sure he's a handcuff to Henry, but if nothing else, he's at least a decent flex/bye week play, I would think.
Roschon Johnson - In deep leagues, he is at least now showing a sign of life and, in my opinion, is the clear #2 in CHI. Which, prior to this week, didn't mean much. But, if I'm desperate for RB depth (again, deeper leagues), I'll grab him for free or a buck and stash him.
Whittington/Atwell/Robinson - Probably in that order, and depending on league size/format. No idea what the status of Kupp and Nacua are, so these guys should continue to see time/targets.
Mooney/McCloud ATL - Targets this year - London 31, Mooney 24, McCloud 22, Pitts 15. Clearly, these guys are the top options after London, and very much in the mix on a weekly basis.
Tucker LVR - Scored two weeks in a row. If Adams DOES get traded, that's a bonus. Either way, I think he has earned at least the WR3 role in LVR. Stash in some leagues, maybe startable in others.
MIN/GB/DEN/CHI Team DST - The first three are looking like almost every-week plays. None have a week with less than 8 points (in fairly standard scoring), and MIN and DEN have hit double digits in 3 out of 4. CHI is right on the cusp, with 7-7-9 in the last three weeks, despite having an offense that has struggled at times. In leagues where I can roster multiple D's, I'm looking to stash at least one of these four.
djjosee
Footballguy
Good question (considering Hill's recent performance) ... ready to drop him to create room in my IR spots
djjosee
Footballguy
Same goes with Jonathan Brooks.Good question (considering Hill's recent performance) ... ready to drop him to create room in my IR spots
zamboni
Footballguy
Starting to get cold feet about overbidding for Wicks.
The 13 targets last week can't be ignored, but Watson may be back sooner than later and there are still many mouths to feed in that offense even without Watson in the lineup. Just concerned that Reed will get his and then it's a crapshoot as to how the rest of the passing game pie is divided on a weekly basis. And if Wicks continues to drop passes, that's going to take him out of the equation.
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
He has a “mild” high ankle sprain. It’s probably 1-3 weeks. That’s not long term.
BlackCrowes
Footballguy
Wicks. But in ppr its close if Flacco plays for a while. Downs was solid last year.
Insein
Footballguy
Not many noticed on Sunday. Still only 19% owned. Not a great offense but he'll be getting 30% of the targets. That's worth something.
Golden Gopher
Footballguy
Good point. Yeah, I've been stashing/drafting him in mainly dynasty/keeper leagues mostly because I keep hearing that he's the closest of the GB WR group to be the "next Davante Adams." That said, he's clearly been outside the top three (Watson/Reed/Doubs in no particular order). And, even if he's the "clear" fourth WR, guys like Melton and Heath are still seeing time as well. Add in a TE situation where people are high on both Kraft and Musgrave, and there definitely ARE a lot of mouths to feed.
He's my #1 target in a very old school redraft league that I've been in for 30-ish years. By old school, I mean no blind bidding (standard rolling waivers), no PPR, and no TE required (WR/TE combined). My WR group there is a mess... Deebo, Kincaid, Allen, Flowers, Likely, Kirk. Literally nobody who has been consistently healthy/productive. So, taking a chance on him there is a no-brainer.
In blind bidding leagues, I'd still throw a decent amount at him, especially if I need help like I do above. Maybe 20-30%. If I'm more stacked at WR, a little less (10-15%), just in case others aren't paying attention.
But, yeah, I think the situation, while it has obvious upside/potential, is still too murky to go "all in" on Wicks. Especially considering the other piece that nobody is talking about, which is Love's ankle. He's one bad hit away from missing time again. I heard Packers fans on Sunday calling for Willis (not to bench Love, but because Love didn't look 100% healthy). Granted, you could say that about a lot (or all) of QB's (that they're one hit away from missing time), but my point is that going from Love to Willis is more significant than some QB situations (think Tua vs Huntley), so there is some additional risk there with Wicks.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
Mostert ended up on our wire last Sunday. I don’t need him now but I’m intrigued to add another RB to my bench.
Of course… he hasn’t been the picture of health.
WaltonGoggins
Footballguy
That's a possibility also available in deep 18 team league.
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Watch it, buddy.
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
Had claims in some guys and to drop Tre Tucker, but with the Adams trade request, no chance I am dropping him now.
Banger
Footballguy
Probably a different discussion but I don't really get the reliance on some of stats like snap %'s unless you get points for that in your league. I mean, conceptually I understand you can't get the ball if you aren't on the field but at the end of the day it's about the actual targets the player gets and then MOST importantly what he does with the targets.
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
raiders
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
Meyers and/or Tucker with Adams out.
Insein
Footballguy
Snap pct gives you an idea of what the coaches think of a player. To me it's been an indicator of when a guy is about to have a bump up in production when you see the coaches start to trust them more to be on the field. Doesn't always translate into a payoff but it is usually a good indicator on who to target from the backups before they have a breakout week.
BespokeJort
Footballguy
These types of conversations are eternal and probably come down to league format.
Short bench redraft? I’m not looking at snap share.
Dynasty of any depth? You gotta be early. You can’t wait for guys to blow up and bid big; you’ll get one or two shots at most that way, cuz a lot of the time if you weren’t early someone else was.
I churn my waivers all season/offseason and pride myself in having at least one or two of the Mason types rostered when they blow up every year. I’ll never get the guy who goes nuclear while he’s still sitting on the wire but that’s okay.
If you’re in a league like that you can’t wait to know anything, you gotta read the tea leaves. Snap share is one of many
I will let the waivers process and pick up Juju for free
27 years old
Caught 73 balls for 933 yards with the Chiefs in 2022
Spent a dead year at NE in 2023 with Mac Jones at QB and played 11 games so minimal wear/tear
He's been back on the Chiefs this year but under the shadow of Rice breakout
And (shhhhhh) Juju + Rice are exactly the same type of WR. The catch and run. Take the underneath.
Chiefs offense is set. They aren't changing it:
Worthy/Watson - Stretch field boom/bust
Juju - Run after catch/underneath
Kelce - Biggest bump now the bubble wrap comes off
27 years old
Caught 73 balls for 933 yards with the Chiefs in 2022
Spent a dead year at NE in 2023 with Mac Jones at QB and played 11 games so minimal wear/tear
He's been back on the Chiefs this year but under the shadow of Rice breakout
And (shhhhhh) Juju + Rice are exactly the same type of WR. The catch and run. Take the underneath.
Chiefs offense is set. They aren't changing it:
Worthy/Watson - Stretch field boom/bust
Juju - Run after catch/underneath
Kelce - Biggest bump now the bubble wrap comes off
The Frankman
Footballguy
What you have to believe in is that Wicks' ability (always been a good man coverage separator) intermediate and deep, and that he may do enough in the next 2-3 games that Watson is out to put distance in between him and Watson, and maybe eat into Reed/Doubs snap share.
Did Juju get a knee transplant and I missed it? His knees left the game two years ago. He can be a zone beater short but he has no wheels.
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Juju had 0 catches for 0 yards on 0 targets against the Chargers.
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