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Waiver Wire Gems - Week 2 (2 Viewers)

gruecd said:
He's old, he might break down, had a lousy outing, it was the Cards, yadayada, but I don't get the disrespect for AP that's around generally he's one of a handful of workhorse RBs who will get loads of work no matter what, they don't grow on trees.

 
Having trouble picking between Gio, Clement, Breida. Ugh. PPR

anyone else in similar boat ?
I like Breida. All he does is produce when given the chance and he is on the upside of a committee and is the best pass catching back they have. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Mixon only misses one game and my best guess is he misses two. After that Bernard is waiver wire material again.

 
I really think Corey Clement is best RB available in most leagues this week.(Assuming Breida is gone)

Ajayi just can't stay healthy and there is always something going on with him whether it is his knee or back he just will never be 100%. Sproles is ancient and it sounds like he will be out for a while anyways. Smallwood is JAG but Clement is pretty good and can catch passes very well. 

I really believe at the end of the year we might see Clement in the top15 RBs in total yards. Dont sleep on him.

 
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I like Breida. All he does is produce when given the chance and he is on the upside of a committee and is the best pass catching back they have.
I'm not saying you should dislike Breida, but you shouldn't think he's their best pass catching back. He's not. He's awful. Probably worse than even Morris at that. He's probably the worst pass catching back they have. 

 
I really think Corey Clement is best RB available in most leagues this week.(Assuming Breida is gone)

Ajayi just can't stay healthy and there is always something going on with him whether it is his knee or back he just will never be 100%. Sproles is ancient and it sounds like he will be out for a while anyways. Smallwood is JAG but Clement is pretty good and can catch passes very well. 

I really believe at the end of the year we might see Clement in the top15 RBs in total yards. Dont sleep on him.
I'd vote for Gio Bernard, but if you went zero rb or have injuries or whatever, both these guys are a godsend this week. I'd be thrilled to land either of them. 

Mixon is definitely out this week. Ajayi might be. Long term I prefer Clement, but until Ajayi is for sure ruled out, I'd rather have the guaranteed one week starter.

 
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No mention of Buck Allen? Out scored Collins in PPR and he is available but I already own Collins. Only a 15 man bench and with Freeman out and waiting for Ingram to return my only  option would be to drop Cohen for him. 

 
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I'm not saying you should dislike Breida, but you shouldn't think he's their best pass catching back. He's not. He's awful. Probably worse than even Morris at that. He's probably the worst pass catching back they have. 
He was last year. He can't improve?

 
He was last year. He can't improve?
Of course he can. And if/when he does change so should my opinion. Until there's clear evidence he longer is terrible at catching passes, the default position should be he still sucks at catching passes.

In other words, I'm not disputing he could become their best catching rb. I'm disputing the statement as it was made, which said Breida IS their best pass catching back. He is not at this time. 

 
Of course he can. And if/when he does change so should my opinion. Until there's clear evidence he longer is terrible at catching passes, the default position should be he still sucks at catching passes.

In other words, I'm not disputing he could become their best catching rb. I'm disputing the statement as it was made, which said Breida IS their best pass catching back. He is not at this time. 
Last year he was. You have evidence he's been terrible this year?

 
Last year he was. You have evidence he's been terrible this year?
The two game sample size is too small to draw any consclusions. 

Breida has caught 4 of 6 passes which is probably still mediocre overall and his 6.5 ypc looks pretty bad too.

Morris has caught both of his targets for 16 yards per catch.

Last year Breida was well below average with a 58% catch rate so the bulk of the data says to be very wary of calling him the best pass catching anything on any team.

 
2 things concern me with Gio

- Chance Mixon only misses 1 game

- Gio’s first start is against Carolina
uh, Doctors/team saying 2-4, minimum.when has a guy ever done just 2-4 in this circumstances? they always go longer like 4-6 weeks..Coleman just torched Carolina for 100+ yards on a limited number of carries..what was it 16-107.expect Gio to do the same if not more.plus catches.

I"m no Cincy fan but there's seems to be a bit of a renaissance in that team, they look super scary good. based on what Gio has done in the past ,sans Mixon, I'd be shocked if he's not a top 5 RB for the next 4-6 weeks. Cincy's bye is what week 9? thats 6 weeks out from now..it's not too much of a stretch to think Cincy sits Mixon until after the bye - keep him fresh for playoff run..if I'm a mixon owner I'm considering trading HIM to the Gio owner, and not the other way around. Michel had a similar knee scope thingy and was out since beginning of august..i.e. about 6 weeks..coaches are not ones to change the settings just because a guy comes back from injury - if what's working now aint broke, dont fix it. dont touch the money.

as for others, the usual suspects:

A. Jones, Breida, J. Brown, MR G from Detroit, Funchess, etc..

long term , I like Jameis Winston a LOT - ride fitzmagic till he implodes..but just remember, right now defenses haven't focused on stopping him yet, haven't cracked the 'code'.they will adjust. it's coming.fitz will regress.this guy has played on 13 teams since 2016. there's a reason for that.he's not that good. he's Flash Fitzmagic - 

Websters dictionary-> flash in the pan..phrase of flash..a thing or person whose sudden, but brief success, is not repeated or repeatable.

he's a backup for a reason..like Emmitt Smith once said, a tiger can't lose its spots.( he also said ' NE got debacled' when they lost to the Gmen in the 1st SB meeting, but thats a story for a rainy day.)

caveat emptor with Flash Fitzmagic.probably the best sell-high guy in the history of fantasy football..

 
uh, Doctors/team saying 2-4, minimum.
2-4 weeks. Not 2-4 games. People have been conflating the two. Normally it's pretty much the same, but considering he had a Thursday night game, it's possible he could be back after missing only one game. 

If I'm a Mixon owner I'd count on him missing 3-5 weeks. If I'm a Gio owner I'd count on having him starting 1-3 weeks. But I like to make conservative projections. 

 
I really think Corey Clement is best RB available in most leagues this week.(Assuming Breida is gone)

Ajayi just can't stay healthy and there is always something going on with him whether it is his knee or back he just will never be 100%. Sproles is ancient and it sounds like he will be out for a while anyways. Smallwood is JAG but Clement is pretty good and can catch passes very well. 

I really believe at the end of the year we might see Clement in the top15 RBs in total yards. Dont sleep on him.
Thinking about dropping mack for hin

 
I picked up Tyler Boyd for $25 and am pretty happy.  He is the second receiving option and has had good target numbers (5 in week 1 and 9 in week 2).

 
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I picked up Tyler Boyd for $25 and am pretty happy.  He is the second receiving option and has had good target numbers (5 in week 1 and 9 in week 2).
I went big at $57. $250 starting. I like the passing offense this year, hope he can keep getting better.

 
I picked up Tyler Boyd for $25 and am pretty happy.  He is the second receiving option and has had good target numbers (5 in week 1 and 9 in week 2).
Wow he went unclaimed in both my leagues. Guess I should look into him.

Scratch that, he went for $4 in one league and someone just added him for free in the other.

 
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I picked up Tyler Boyd for $25 and am pretty happy.  He is the second receiving option and has had good target numbers (5 in week 1 and 9 in week 2).
Forgot about him. Loved him in Pittsburgh. Brb, going to the waivers...

 
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 Just went to my waivers to have a look at Boyd and someone literally just dropped Ross for him. You snooze you lose. Glaringly obvious that he could be valuable this season as the 2nd WR on that offence, now that I look at it

 
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We should maybe be talking more about Tyler Boyd as a pickup.  John Ross got the preseason buzz but Boyd might be the true #2 option on a team that looks very much improved and has a GREAT passing schedule. 

I'm intrigued.

Roto:
 
Never let me slip cause if I slip then I'm slippin!

 
CJ Anderson was dropped in PPR. He hasn't done anything, but worth a roster spot over guys like Boyd & C. Grant?
There are only 5-7 guys that would be near feature backs if an in injury occurs - Anderson seems like one of those guys. He's a must stash, imo.

Anderson, Yeldon, Gio, Conner, Ekeler, etc. are all in that tier and should have been drafted and still held in most 18 roster-spot leagues.

This could be the year of the handcuff.  Fournette went down and Yeldon did OK, Ekeler looks tight/legit if Gordon misses any time, Conner has been great, Gio is set up for a month of heavy workload with Mixon out.

Year of the handcuff!

 
Year of the handcuff!
This is every year. Handcuffs more often than not seem to come in and do better than the starter. Buck Allen vs Forsett a few years ago. Hightower, Shoelace a few years back. Drake last year. Murray was a legit RB for Cook. The list is endless. Handcuff!

 
This is every year. Handcuffs more often than not seem to come in and do better than the starter. Buck Allen vs Forsett a few years ago. Hightower, Shoelace a few years back. Drake last year. Murray was a legit RB for Cook. The list is endless. Handcuff!
Handcuffing rbs make sense for teams with a lack of depth at rb.  Otherwise I prefer to hold upside players on my bench, especially in dynasty leagues.

 
Looking at Boyd too. Would drop Crowder for him. zzzzzzzzz 

Speaking of, has anyone seen Crowder dumped yet? I thought he was a no-brainer for PPR with Alex Smith and he's not sniffing the ball at all.

 
Looking at Boyd too. Would drop Crowder for him. zzzzzzzzz 

Speaking of, has anyone seen Crowder dumped yet? I thought he was a no-brainer for PPR with Alex Smith and he's not sniffing the ball at all.
Last year was the first year I ever remember a WR having a good year in an Alex Smith offense.

 
Last year was the first year I ever remember a WR having a good year in an Alex Smith offense.
Solid point. Also, saw Callaway was still available and chose him over Garcon, Boyd and Ginn. Why not? Good stash for later in the season when Baker takes over.

 
Solid point. Also, saw Callaway was still available and chose him over Garcon, Boyd and Ginn. Why not? Good stash for later in the season when Baker takes over.
As long as we're showing cards here outside the AC, how do people view Garcon versus Boyd?

 
zamboni said:
As long as we're showing cards here outside the AC, how do people view Garcon versus Boyd?
Personally, I like Callaway over both (& Ginn - too many mouths to feed), but as far as Garcon vs. Boyd:

Garcon = that steady-ish guy who can get you a few points a week, but I wouldn't expect much of any breakout games from

Boyd = just the opposite. he's the guy I'd stash/ start if I 'm looking for that high ceiling/ breakout in any given week. 

The way I've gone about things for years is that I always prefer the high ceiling on this tier of players. a guy like Garcon is never going to see my lineup unless i have multiple injuries, bye week issues, or for some reason I see a last minute scratch and he's playing in a late game where i can swap out quick. 

Just my $0.02

 
Personally, I like Callaway over both (& Ginn - too many mouths to feed), but as far as Garcon vs. Boyd:

Garcon = that steady-ish guy who can get you a few points a week, but I wouldn't expect much of any breakout games from

Boyd = just the opposite. he's the guy I'd stash/ start if I 'm looking for that high ceiling/ breakout in any given week. 

The way I've gone about things for years is that I always prefer the high ceiling on this tier of players. a guy like Garcon is never going to see my lineup unless i have multiple injuries, bye week issues, or for some reason I see a last minute scratch and he's playing in a late game where i can swap out quick. 

Just my $0.02
Good thoughts - thanks. I tend to agree regarding Garcon - he may have the rare big game, but probably only if Garopolo  throws the ball a ton and he gets his share (like maybe this weekend versus the Chiefs). And with Kittle and the impending return of Goodwin, the targets are not probably going to be there like they have been in past years.

 
Need a TE with losing Walker and picking up J. Smith last week.

I have ASJ, McDonald, James, and Butt available in full PPR. 

How would you rate these to drop J. Smith?
I'd go James from this group. I'm a little surprised James is being overlooked.He has 5 targets two games straight which is pretty good for a TE and obviously he's been doing a lot with the catches. And he's got a TE friendly matchup this week. 

 
I picked up Tyler Boyd for $25 and am pretty happy.  He is the second receiving option and has had good target numbers (5 in week 1 and 9 in week 2).
how big a league?

he's available in my 12 teamer with 3 year contracts + salary cap... i've got my eye on him tho...

 
General roundtable question: who do you see going unrostered in your leagues that you think might be going overlooked? 

This isn’t repetitive. We all know there are players not in our conversations which are going to be hot adds next week or 2-4 weeks from now.

 
General roundtable question: who do you see going unrostered in your leagues that you think might be going overlooked? 

This isn’t repetitive. We all know there are players not in our conversations which are going to be hot adds next week or 2-4 weeks from now.
Seeing Austin Hooper quite a bit. Five or six targets for forty or fifty and a possible touchdown is nothing to sneeze at coming from the TE position.  

 
xrayveggin said:
Djax is on the waiver wire? Is that a 2 team league? He's the #2 scoring WR in 0.5ppr.
Does your league give you points this week based on what a player did the last 2 weeks?

 
Does your league give you points this week based on what a player did the last 2 weeks?
My point was this is the waiver wire thread, not the assistant coach forum nor the ask bloom thread.

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I clearly misread it as a which player do I start question.

DJax can't possibly maintain the same efficiency, but he's on fire, and his offense is on fire, and it's a set up for a barnburner this week in Tampa with two high powered offenses and two middling to crap defenses.

 
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My point was this is the waiver wire thread, not the assistant coach forum nor the ask bloom thread.
We're aware.

DJax is rostered in your league. He's rostered in my league. He was also undrafted in my league and I am sure there are plenty of non two team leagues where he was also undrafted and people simply aren't drinking the Fitzpatrick Kool-Aid.

 
My point was this is the waiver wire thread, not the assistant coach forum nor the ask bloom thread.

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I clearly misread it as a which player do I start question.

DJax can't possibly maintain the same efficiency, but he's on fire, and his offense is on fire, and it's a set up for a barnburner this week in Tampa with two high powered offenses and two middling to crap defenses.
An odd way to try and make said point unless you also wanted to out yourself as a DB.  If that was the case, well done!

 
Case in point: 

Somebody who got off to a bad start in my league dropped Doug Baldwin. Normally, I'd be all over that and would take the risk. 

But this year, I can't afford to burn a roster spot for a guy on an 0-2 team with two bad knees when there are so many other pressing issues on my team, so Baldwin sits there waiting for a shiny new owner to have him. He hasn't practiced. How do I know Seattle doesn't drop two more while he's out and, therefore, he decides the season is shot so why not have surgery? Then I've missed out on somebody else because I had to do what everyone else says it was the right thing for a good league with savvy owners to do.  

So it sounds bad that DJax sits there, but it isn't. It's all about what you start out as, what you need, what your leeg makeup is, what your record is, etc. 

 
General roundtable question: who do you see going unrostered in your leagues that you think might be going overlooked? 

This isn’t repetitive. We all know there are players not in our conversations which are going to be hot adds next week or 2-4 weeks from now.
For my league I am monitoring Tyler Boyd, Chris Godwin, John Brown, Geronimo Alison and now Callaway is on my radar too.

No RBs of note but I am considering Chase Edmonds because he looks like the clear 3 down backup to DJ who is getting the #### kicked out of him. 

 
No RBs of note but I am considering Chase Edmonds because he looks like the clear 3 down backup to DJ who is getting the #### kicked out of him. 
I agree Edmonds looks promising, but it’s not due to overwork of DJ. Through two weeks, he’s barely touched the ball.

 

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