There is no doubt if Pacheco were out CEH would have good value. The question is where do you value him vs other true handcuffs. I think there are a number of rostered handcuffs who shouldnt be ahead of CEH.
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NE is such an interesting team. Its hard NOT to put up some points on them because opponents offenses are on the field so much due to their own offense woes. In the last game it was Murray not Moss who was in the game at crunch time and Moss certainly doesnt get goal line carries. I agree with you with Murray being a sneaky play...just for a different reason.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
Moss? You lost me here.NE is such an interesting team. Its hard NOT to put up some points on them because opponents offenses are on the field so much due to their own offense woes. In the last game it was Murray not Moss who was in the game at crunch time and Moss certainly doesnt get goal line carries. I agree with you with Murray being a sneaky play...just for a different reason.
RenegadeRoy
Footballguy
I think they are confusing Zach Moss (no longer on Buffalo) with James Cook (currently on Buffalo).Moss? You lost me here.NE is such an interesting team. Its hard NOT to put up some points on them because opponents offenses are on the field so much due to their own offense woes. In the last game it was Murray not Moss who was in the game at crunch time and Moss certainly doesnt get goal line carries. I agree with you with Murray being a sneaky play...just for a different reason.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
That makes sense. Thanks.I think they are confusing Zach Moss (no longer on Buffalo) with James Cook (currently on Buffalo).Moss? You lost me here.NE is such an interesting team. Its hard NOT to put up some points on them because opponents offenses are on the field so much due to their own offense woes. In the last game it was Murray not Moss who was in the game at crunch time and Moss certainly doesnt get goal line carries. I agree with you with Murray being a sneaky play...just for a different reason.
Was watching the end of the Rangers and Astros game while reading and responding… so for a second I thought perhaps I was really dumb or just missing something.
Tusken Raider
Footballguy
I'm watching DAL-LAC tonight to get a feel for two WRs going forward:
Michael Gallup (I already have him as my WR5) has the same targets as Lamb the past three weeks (7-6-5) and has posted 6-92, 5-60, 2-15, with no TDs yet as Dak's 3a/3b target (tied with Pollard)
Quenton Johnson... is he ready after bye week planning? I'd like to get in on him before he has a big game. Maybe has more late-season upside than Gallup, but has a rookie hill to climb behind Allen, Ekeler, Palmer, and TEs.
Michael Gallup (I already have him as my WR5) has the same targets as Lamb the past three weeks (7-6-5) and has posted 6-92, 5-60, 2-15, with no TDs yet as Dak's 3a/3b target (tied with Pollard)
Quenton Johnson... is he ready after bye week planning? I'd like to get in on him before he has a big game. Maybe has more late-season upside than Gallup, but has a rookie hill to climb behind Allen, Ekeler, Palmer, and TEs.
Nahh that was me. Earlier I was answering a question about Moss (who ISNT with buffalo, who IS with indy) and missed a gear there lol Dont get me started on the Cook(S) versus CooksThat makes sense. Thanks.I think they are confusing Zach Moss (no longer on Buffalo) with James Cook (currently on Buffalo).Moss? You lost me here.NE is such an interesting team. Its hard NOT to put up some points on them because opponents offenses are on the field so much due to their own offense woes. In the last game it was Murray not Moss who was in the game at crunch time and Moss certainly doesnt get goal line carries. I agree with you with Murray being a sneaky play...just for a different reason.
Was watching the end of the Rangers and Astros game while reading and responding… so for a second I thought perhaps I was really dumb or just missing something.
Runkle
Footballguy
Sounds like you're in a similar situation to me. @da_budman made a good point on the previous page that has me leaning Evans over Reynolds. Not sure where to place Ahmed in the mix, nor Mason, hopefully by tomorrow evening there's more clarity on the injury situations.
Runkle
Footballguy
Faint rumor he's interested in Buffalo
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Actually makes some sense
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
Plus division games can be weird.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
Don't say that! He's my last healthy RB.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Every year we roll our eyes at Murray being on sites WW darling of the week.
It ain’t gonna last…but dude is relevant for a few weeks every year. You could do worse than using Lactavious for a one week bye filler. Especially in a league where the wire is barren.
Feel like I should go wash my hand 3-4 times after typing that…
As bad as some of these qbs have been for FF purposes you could probably do worse than speculating on Murray as a backup.
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
What's interesting is that the nature of CMC's injury, plus the MNF game, means my strategy on the SF handcuff options is very different. For the league where I have CMC, I'm strongly incentivized to target Mitchell/Mason because if I picked up, say, Roschon Johnson, I'd have to decide by Sunday whether to start him, potentially before I knew CMC's status.
On the other hand, in the league where I don't have him (and desperately need a starting RB with Kyren out), picking up the SF RBs is risky because I could end up waiting until Monday night and then getting screwed when McCaffrey plays. So in that case I'm strongly incentivized to go with one of the lower-ceiling options like Zach Evans or Latavius.
It's certainly possible we'll know by Sunday morning whether CMC is likely to play, but we almost definitely won't know by the time waivers run tonight
On the other hand, in the league where I don't have him (and desperately need a starting RB with Kyren out), picking up the SF RBs is risky because I could end up waiting until Monday night and then getting screwed when McCaffrey plays. So in that case I'm strongly incentivized to go with one of the lower-ceiling options like Zach Evans or Latavius.
It's certainly possible we'll know by Sunday morning whether CMC is likely to play, but we almost definitely won't know by the time waivers run tonight
ProstheticRGK
Footballguy
Julio Jones.
j/k, he’s not gonna see the field
j/k, he’s not gonna see the field
Scooby1974
Footballguy
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
You can never have too many assistant coaches. Hell they got Fat Matty Patty shuffling around the NovaCare Complex.
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Its why I prefer Wednesday midnight waiver wires vs Tuesday midnight. One extra day to sort out injuries can be HUGE. I dont really understand why leagues prefer Tuesday waiver wires.
PIK95
Footballguy
Do you have a sirius fantasy radio show? I feel like I heard this already today.
No... Not only do I NOT have a Sirus show....I dont even have Sirus lol.... Just seems common sense to me.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
One hasn’t accepted he sucks and the other needs a paycheck.
Good points. And with the biggest bye week so far, not a bad reach
Runkle
Footballguy
I prefer it so that guys dropped on the first pass can be picked up in time for the Thursday game. Because of our league hosts settings, and waivers only running once per day, when someone is dropped Wednesday they don't clear waivers before the Thursday game starts, so they'd be locked for 7 days until the next run.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I agree with @da_budman 100% on this take as far as my league goes:
- Mitchell drafted and rostered all year
- Hunt was picked up a long time ago
- Evans has the clearest path to starters snaps with only practice squad callup Royce Freeman as competition (e.g., none)
- Reynolds will likely get only a sprinkling of touches IMO, Gibbs will see usage similar to the ATL game
As for Evans, former #1 RB recruit who has never been a bell cow, but not due to anything related to his on field production. Good athlete who should thrive at home v PIT.
Evans RAS
I posted an extensive writeup over a couple posts on Evans 8 days ago in his player thread.
RenegadeRoy
Footballguy
I also like having Wednesday to negotiate trades that may need to go through prior to Thursday games. A lot of managers won't entertain trades until waivers run to see if they got their guy(s).
We run 1 ww a week and dropped players are locked till the following week. I can see why you favor earlier but I dont think running a ww every day is a normal setting. I dont think players dropped on tuesday or wednesday are (or should be) available before the thursday night game.
Runkle
Footballguy
I get it, we're just a little more casual, and it gets frustrating when the one owner who insists on carrying Harrison Butker over his bye picks up a 2nd kicker for just one week, drops him on the next Wednesday once the rental is done, and of course he's playing in a dome that Thursday night and six other teams are on a bye and there's slim pickings elsewhere on the wire when you're looking to stream. Not that I'm bitter or anything!
This I can see as an advantage to tuesdays. Making a trade after the WW runs on wedesday is a much tighter time frame BUT can be accomplished with some creative language in the trade (recogniing that isnt ideal either because you have to alert the other tradee who you are going after in the WW) Something like: I will trade you john doe for bill smith ONLY if I get george jones off the WW.
Not sure which one is which but Robinson actually looked pretty good in Jax before the trade then was burried on the jets roster. Pre season he looked pretty good during pre season the game I saw him. The runningbacks in GB are either chronically injured or averaging 3 yds a carry, I think there is room for SOMEONE to play there. Not sure whether that will be robinson or not.
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
And after all that, I ended up picking up Mitchell in my non-CMC league. A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines.
My logic was this: Woke up this morning to see I had lost out on Evans, and all of the available options were pretty much their teams' RB2s (Latavius, Hunt, McLaughlin). Meanwhile, Mitchell had cleared waivers. I figured among that group, he's the one with the best chance of leading his team in touches. So I picked him up for now. If CMC is declared out before Sunday morning, I can start him with some level of confidence. And if the situation is still murky, I can pick up one of the other guys
themeistersinger
Footballguy
Yes, it's the reason I did it in my league.
themeistersinger
Footballguy
I picked up the Browns DST for 27/1000 last night. The second highest bid was also 27/1000, but since he had already got another guy with a higher bid, that moved me ahead of him in waiver priority. That's the first time I ever nailed the bid price right on the nose.
I had started with a bid of 16, which equalled the highest DST bid all year in my league. Then bumped to 17 and just before going to bed I upped it to 27. Hopefully I can ride them ROS.
I had started with a bid of 16, which equalled the highest DST bid all year in my league. Then bumped to 17 and just before going to bed I upped it to 27. Hopefully I can ride them ROS.
Winning IS Everything
Footballguy
Yeah, my previous best option at RB2 this week was/is Keaontay Ingram, so I grabbed Latavius as a potential start just for this week.
Lansdowne
Footballguy
I’m razor thin at WR in my dynasty league and pre-emptively picked up I like Chase Claypool as an upside flyer. Decent chance he’ll make his Dolphins debut Sunday night against the Eagles and he’s had a lot of success against them already in 2 games. As a matter of fact, he has a pass TD (last year), rush TD, and 3 receiving TDs (2020) to his name, for a total of 5 TDs. That was as the #3 WR for the Steelers. Claypool is coming in to a much more explosive offense with Miami. At 6-4 and 238 lbs. he gives that aerial attack some massive size that they were lacking. The physical talent is there, it’s just a matter of getting past his immaturity issues that got him sent packing twice halfway through his rookie contract.
Definitely a reclamation project for Mike McDaniel, but could pay off big. Still only 25 years old. Healthy. Big, strong, fast. It’s just about what’s between the ears, and perhaps the winning culture that McDaniel is fostering in Miami can help with that. It’s a long shot but worth keeping an eye on. I want a piece of that Dolphins offense when I can and there’s some serious upside here if Claypool can carve out a significant role with them. Watch list material.
Definitely a reclamation project for Mike McDaniel, but could pay off big. Still only 25 years old. Healthy. Big, strong, fast. It’s just about what’s between the ears, and perhaps the winning culture that McDaniel is fostering in Miami can help with that. It’s a long shot but worth keeping an eye on. I want a piece of that Dolphins offense when I can and there’s some serious upside here if Claypool can carve out a significant role with them. Watch list material.
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ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
Ugh, and now the reports that Kyren may miss multiple weeks has me rethinking the decision to pick up Mitchell. Maybe I should just get someone I know will have value while Williams is out, like Latavius. Alternatively, I could hope I squeeze some value out of Mitchell this week and then pivot to Singletary when he comes off his bye
If you own CMC, Mitchell is for sure the right play especially with the MNF game. Theres no telling who will be the RB in LA. Could be Evans, could be Freeman, could be Henderson or Gaskin, could be all 4. Good luck with that.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
I enjoy how confident you are in Mitchell over Mason, and that there’s no telling with Evans and the hodge podge of guys behind him.
You may very well be right… it just feels like two similar situations… with one even being tougher to call because Mason seems more talented than the guys behind Evans.
I am talking from a CMC owners perspective. Id rather take the shot on CMC playing on MNF and if he doesnt at least you have Mitchell to fall back on. IMO even if Mitchell splits carries with Mason he should be solid this week. If you dont own CMC Id rather gamble on Evans as the multi-week play.
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
This is exactly where I am ... except that in the league where I don't have CMC and have Williams, I lost out on Evans. So my options -- for this week and likely a few more -- are Mitchell, Murray and Hunt. Could also pick up Singletary but he's on bye this week.
crushedspirit
Footballguy
What a mess really. You can't trust Shanny or McVay when it comes to RBs. Wanted Evans but now they signed 3 more, LOL. Don't trust that Detroit situation either.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
10-4
Wasn’t trying to call you out, I just read it as you knowing one was a slam dunk and one was a question mark.
But clarifying to my brain that it was toward a cmc owner it makes perfect sense.
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
I landed both the Steelers and Browns D the wire this week, not expecting both but like the idea of having 2 good Ds.
Problem is I need to get a TE now. Do I drop Shultz who has been on a tear or do I consider dropping JSN or Doubs? Options are Njoku, Muth, Etz, Mayer or Kinkaid.
Problem is I need to get a TE now. Do I drop Shultz who has been on a tear or do I consider dropping JSN or Doubs? Options are Njoku, Muth, Etz, Mayer or Kinkaid.
NotSmart
Footballguy
Waivers once a week would seem awful to me - I wouldn't guess that's the more common setting, but I don't know.
There's extra strategy in deciding whether to put in a WW claim or hold off, move up in the WW order, then have a better shot at picking up players dropped by others on Tues night.
Having multiple WW runs per week also gives lower ranked teams more chances to add recently dropped players.
There's also in-week practice injuries that sometimes necessitate adding someone later in the week.
It's all personal preference though.
Interesting perspective. I get where you wouldnt like once a week when you are used to the extra player churning that more WWs per weeks bring. Ive probably been in 40- 50 leagues in my life and can think of only 1 with more than 1 WW per week. I cant remember liking or not liking it more that once a week. I know people sometimes drop players that are head scratchers but during the 2nd and subsequent WWs you are picking through other peoples rejects. Seems like its a limited strategy vs using the first one. We have a first come first serve after the WW runs to account for late injuries. I would say in general I am all for almost anything that brings more strategy into the game because by extension that lowers the percentage of FF that is luck. Thanks for the response.
Waivers once a week would seem awful to me - I wouldn't guess that's the more common setting, but I don't know.
There's extra strategy in deciding whether to put in a WW claim or hold off, move up in the WW order, then have a better shot at picking up players dropped by others on Tues night.
Having multiple WW runs per week also gives lower ranked teams more chances to add recently dropped players.
There's also in-week practice injuries that sometimes necessitate adding someone later in the week.
It's all personal preference though.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Stand pat
