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Wali Lundy, Ron Dayne or Samkon Gado (1 Viewer)
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from kubiak's comments it seems like they see gado taking over for dayne as the short-yardage/goal line dude, which means lundy would be the nominal starter.
if lundy continues to stink, i guess gado could take the full-time job.
but since they are brining in a back kubiak sees as similar to dayne, let's assume dayne is not in the running here.
also gado has proven so far to be a bad fit for this type of offense and comes recommended by a horrific talent evaluator. so he isn't s sure shot here.
so i will tentatively say lundy will be the starter but if he stinks, gado will be in there ASAP.
is this a cop out? sorry if it is, but i think it is the truth.
if lundy continues to stink, i guess gado could take the full-time job.
but since they are brining in a back kubiak sees as similar to dayne, let's assume dayne is not in the running here.
also gado has proven so far to be a bad fit for this type of offense and comes recommended by a horrific talent evaluator. so he isn't s sure shot here.
so i will tentatively say lundy will be the starter but if he stinks, gado will be in there ASAP.
is this a cop out? sorry if it is, but i think it is the truth.
KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
Never trust a RB from NJ... That eliminates Lundy and Dayne.
None of these guys look appealing as a long term starter really.
None of these guys look appealing as a long term starter really.
badmouthing my state eh? Let's not forget Franco Harris here. Dayne was such a monster in HS, they probably still sell his autographed footballs at the games.
Ozymandias
Footballguy
By the time Ron Dayne finishes his NFL career, he will have seen more cities than the Barnum and Bailey Super 50 State Magical Mystery Tour.
Holy Schneikes
Footballguy
I'm just sorry this happened so quickly that we didn't have time to hear Pony Boy pimp Dayne as the obvious new starter in Houston.
Couple of good practices out of Ronnie and we would have been off to the races.
Couple of good practices out of Ronnie and we would have been off to the races.
Sleeper 43
Footballguy
I think Lundy is a scrub that gets a extra long leash becasue Kubiak drafted him and wants to prove he drafted a good RB.
Dayne... lets just say the back of his neck looks like a pack of hotdogs
Gado - A capable RB with very limited upside but still better than Lundy
Dayne... lets just say the back of his neck looks like a pack of hotdogs
Gado - A capable RB with very limited upside but still better than Lundy
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Fla\/\/ed
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Chairshot
Footballguy
Lundy will still get his shot - but I don't think he will take advantage of it. Gado has shown real skill in the past when he gets carries.
He had 5 games last year when he got 20+ carries and he scored a TD in each game. He had 3 100 yard games (including a 171 yard effort) and in the other 2 games he had 62 and 75 yards.
He had 4.1 yards per carry last year. The same as guys like Chester Taylor, Cadillac Willaims, and Stephen Jackson. Edge James was 4.2.
He had 6 rushing TDs last year (plus 1 receiving). In basically 6 games. That's more then Willis McGahee, Julius Jones, Chris Brown, Kevin Jones, Willie Parker and Ronnie Brown and the same number as Cadillac Williams. One less then Brandon Jacobs.
We love all those guys, we think they are all #1 or #2 RBs (with the exception of Jacobs).
I don't see any reason why Gado can't be the same type of back, if they give him carries. At the very least, I can see him being the goal line back and putting up Brandon Jacobs/TJ Duckett type numbers. He certainly seems like he should have a spot stashed away on your roster.
He had 5 games last year when he got 20+ carries and he scored a TD in each game. He had 3 100 yard games (including a 171 yard effort) and in the other 2 games he had 62 and 75 yards.
He had 4.1 yards per carry last year. The same as guys like Chester Taylor, Cadillac Willaims, and Stephen Jackson. Edge James was 4.2.
He had 6 rushing TDs last year (plus 1 receiving). In basically 6 games. That's more then Willis McGahee, Julius Jones, Chris Brown, Kevin Jones, Willie Parker and Ronnie Brown and the same number as Cadillac Williams. One less then Brandon Jacobs.
We love all those guys, we think they are all #1 or #2 RBs (with the exception of Jacobs).
I don't see any reason why Gado can't be the same type of back, if they give him carries. At the very least, I can see him being the goal line back and putting up Brandon Jacobs/TJ Duckett type numbers. He certainly seems like he should have a spot stashed away on your roster.
Hairy Snowman
Footballguy
Lundy [ 31 ] [42.47%]
Gado [ 31 ] [42.47%]
Dayne [ 2 ] [2.74%]
other (not yet on the team) [ 9 ] [12.33%]
So, this means we don't know, right?
Gado [ 31 ] [42.47%]
Dayne [ 2 ] [2.74%]
other (not yet on the team) [ 9 ] [12.33%]
So, this means we don't know, right?
PBateman
Footballguy
Domanick Davis anyone? I mean, they did pass on Reggie Bush. Something tells me Davis will be given the opportunity to start next season.Lundy [ 31 ] [42.47%] Gado [ 31 ] [42.47%] Dayne [ 2 ] [2.74%] other (not yet on the team) [ 9 ] [12.33%] So, this means we don't know, right?
Bizkiteer
Footballguy
A lot of Gado hopefuls must be chiming in. Lundy is the only RB that was drafted by this coaching staff and if you listen to Kubiak, he always has good things to say about Lundy. Yes, their (all HOU RB's + OL) rushing attack was weak, but the comment was that there was "little room" for them. People don't want to believe, but I think Lundy is Kubiaks guy unless they are smacked in the face with a Adrian Peterson next year or proven featured FA RB. The trade just goes to show that coaches weren't impressed w/ Morency and his style of running hadn't changed consistently enough.
Darth Cheney
Footballguy
What has Lundy done?
This should be a no brainer for Gado. Gado has already established the fact that he can be a sucessful runner in the NFL. Lundy wasn't one of the big time college RB's in the draft. Gado has played with crappy QBs and crappy OLs before and did a good job.
This should be a no brainer for Gado. Gado has already established the fact that he can be a sucessful runner in the NFL. Lundy wasn't one of the big time college RB's in the draft. Gado has played with crappy QBs and crappy OLs before and did a good job.
Noahs Troopers
Footballguy
Samkon Gado, Dayne, LundyLundy [ 73 ] [42.20%] Gado [ 73 ] [42.20%] Dayne [ 7 ] [4.05%] other (not yet on the team) [ 20 ] [11.56%] Hope that clears it up for all of us.Lundy [ 31 ] [42.47%] Gado [ 31 ] [42.47%] Dayne [ 2 ] [2.74%] other (not yet on the team) [ 9 ] [12.33%] So, this means we don't know, right?
gman8343
What would Lemmy do?
agreed, all these guys look like patchwork players. The real answer isn't on the team IMO.
phrozen
Footballguy
Righetti
Footballguy
September 14, 2006, 19:56
Texans :: RB
Three Headed RBBC In Houston?
HoustonTexans.com - [Full Article]
Texans HC Gary Kubiak spoke to the media Thursday afternoon following practice. When asked about the situation of his runningbacks he said “I believe all of them will play, Wali (Lundi) and Ron (Dayne). Sam (Gado) could play also, of course if one of them was on a roll he’d probably play more than the others. But I think they’ll all play from now on out.”
Texans :: RB
Three Headed RBBC In Houston?
HoustonTexans.com - [Full Article]
Texans HC Gary Kubiak spoke to the media Thursday afternoon following practice. When asked about the situation of his runningbacks he said “I believe all of them will play, Wali (Lundi) and Ron (Dayne). Sam (Gado) could play also, of course if one of them was on a roll he’d probably play more than the others. But I think they’ll all play from now on out.”
msommer
Footballguy
Look for Gado to be Mike Anderson of 2005 and Lundi to fail at being Tatum Bell
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Shake and Bake
Footballguy
Look for Gado to be Mike Anderson of 2005 and Lundu to fail at being Tatum Bell
Righetti
Footballguy
kind of like the Donkeys in 2004 with Gado playing the part of Droughns and Lundi playing the part of a failing tatum bell
redman
Footballguy
You can also read it a slightly different way. Lundy and Morency could have been viewed as nearly interchangeable in terms of talent level, potential, running style, etc. Many people watching the Texans were saying pretty much that. The Texans, however, wanted a guy who was a contrast to what they had, and so they traded the guy who held more value in trade, i.e. Morency, the 3rd rounder from last year instead of Lundy, the 6th rounder from this year, in order to make that happen. After all, if their evaluation is that they're essentially equivalent, then what do the Texans care any more as to which round they were drafted in? As for Lundy being the only one they drafted, I guess technically that's true but they of course specifically targeted Gado in trade and gave up value for him. To me that makes Gado for the time being equivalent to Lundy at least insofar as the shot the team will give him given what they "spent" on him. One more thought: if there's a team in the NFL that is more serious about finding a RB that plays well for them, then I can't identify it. This is the team, after all, that passed over Reggie Bush . . .
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Bingo.And then a 2008 draftee/FAAnd then a 2009 draftee/FAand on and on...Welcome to Denver, part deux.
RamMan
Footballguy
Gado will be given every oppty to be the starter. If HOU wanted him simply as a backup, they would have retained Morency, IMHO. You can speculate all you want on running styles, roles, etc., but when you read the tea leaves it looks like Dayne is the short yardage back, and it's Gado vs. Lundy for starter. Kubiak has brought in Sherman as his OC, so he must trust him. Sherman has now brought in Gado, and Gado will be given every oppty to earn the starting gig.
There are those who have suggested that Gado doesn't fit the "one-cut" system very well. There may be some truth to that, but if that's a deal breaker for Gado starting, then why didn't HOU simply hang on to Morency as a backup? If you say it's because they wanted a short-yardage back, they already had that in Dayne. Besides, Gado has never filled that role either. Doen't make sense. What makes sense here is that Gado will be given the oppty to earn the bulk of the touches...what he does w/that oppty is anyone's guess.
There are those who have suggested that Gado doesn't fit the "one-cut" system very well. There may be some truth to that, but if that's a deal breaker for Gado starting, then why didn't HOU simply hang on to Morency as a backup? If you say it's because they wanted a short-yardage back, they already had that in Dayne. Besides, Gado has never filled that role either. Doen't make sense. What makes sense here is that Gado will be given the oppty to earn the bulk of the touches...what he does w/that oppty is anyone's guess.
redman
Footballguy
Please explain one thing for me: Gado supposedly doesn't fit the one-cut system per the new Green Bay regime, and this is supposedly the same one-cut system they have in Houston.
However, Sherman is the OC in Houston, and Gado had some very good games for Sherman last year.
Did Sherman change his system from last year?
However, Sherman is the OC in Houston, and Gado had some very good games for Sherman last year.
Did Sherman change his system from last year?
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
This "Gado doesn't fit the one-cut system" has been running rampid from some reports in late July/early August. Gado had a bad pre-season, no question. I think everyone in GB did. But I think there's a considerably large difference between:a. having a bad pre-season in a one-cut systemb. not fitting a one-cut systemOne has a lot of long-term implications, the other does not. I think Sherman, knowing Gado, and Kubiak, knowing his system, obviously feel that Gado will fit in fine with their system. There's been nothing but glowing praise from Kubiak about Gado already, and I think Gado has as good a chance as anyone on that roster at being the starter.
Judge Smails
Footballguy
Lundy had an excellent preseason. That's why he got the hype. (along with speculation about Davis). I watched every play of the Houston game, and when there was the slightest hole (not often), Lundy showed explosiveness through it. I was impressed with his strength and quickness. Gado/Dayne/you name it would have been stopped on the other plays. When an opposing jersey is greeting you at the handoff, you're dead. I think people have been WAY too quick to hand the reigns over to Gado/Dayne here..
sartre
Footballguy
Not that I doubt this info, but I wonder how much work he actually got in. You figure the evening prior, he was probably still packing his bags in Wisconsin.
sartre
Footballguy
I agree with you 100%. It's a good time to go after Lundy.
Righetti
Footballguy
I don't disagree with your Lundy assessment but I also don't think it's fair to say that Gado would have been stopped on those plays.. This guy did run for 583 yards and 6TD's last year in 8 games and only 5 starts.. I'm not so sure he was stopped dead in his tracks everytime he was met with contact, his style is probably not to have defenders miss but pile through them. So on some plays Lundi's elusive quickness is a plus, on others Gado's power might be a plus.. They seem to be complimentary backs. he is probably a very different type of runner than Lundi is.. question is which style Kubiak prefers or if he sees them splitting time in the same way they had MikeAnderson and Tatum Bell last year..and i agree that people are way too quick to hand the reigns over..
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
Anyone else think this? Be interested in hearing from some people who saw the game. Not a ton of into on the game thread on Houston (most of the talk was about Addai, rightly so).
pizzatyme
Footballguy
Guys, I went to the game. But, take my analysis with a grain of salt, since some on here think you can get a better feel for a game watching it 100s of miles away on tv.
Lundy looked BAD! Slow to the hole, no cutback vision.Dayne looked OKAY. Hard downhill running. Problem is, there aren't those types of lanes with this offensive line.Gado looked GOOD. Small sample size, but he is the fastest of the backs. More experienced, and runs with vision.Carr is one tough SOB. Their line is just embarassing.I see another top 3 draft pick coming their way next year.
chris1969
Footballguy
I voted other since I didn't see Domanick Davis's name. He'll be the long term answer, (3 to 4 more years while they fill other positions) Gado will probably be the short term answer and will be the goal-line guy next year to help keep DD healthy. If they pick a RB #1 next year they are just pro-longing their pain. They need too much help everywhere else.
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
I think DD is done as a starting RB.
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