Walmart Makes it Official: Thanksgiving Is Dead (1 Viewer)

[SlaX]

So it looks like the concensus is that we should just get rid of all paid holidays. Why should just "those people" have to work on holidays? We should all work.

Most of you people are a bunch of narcissistic loners that don't care about anybody else and don't have anybody that likes you enough to spend time with you on a holiday.

But wasn't it you, Frank Cross, who wanted your employees to be working on Christmas. You even fired a guy on Christmas Eve. You scrooge, you.

Did you fall asleep and miss the end of the movie? Maybe you should go rent the tape again and rewatch it.

I remember something about a 100-ft marshmallow man?

 

[Witz]

For those of you planning on not going to Walmart or any other store on Thanksgiving in order to show your support of those individuals being forced to work on that day, that's very noble of you (not just those in this thread but all of those posting on FB and starting petitions). The question is how committed are you to the cause of not wanting folks to work on the holiday so they can spend it with their loved ones?

- Will you not venture outside your house to visit relatives so you don't have to stop at a gas station to get fuel, or travel on the highways so you don't have to utilize the tolls?

- Will you disconnect from the internet to support those individuals working at the seemingly infinite number of websites that support those sites?

- Will you not watch football on the television in support of those individuals that need to work at the game and at the network in order to televise those games? For that matter, will you turn off the television altogether to support the even larger mass of individuals keeping the programming running on the hundreds of networks?

- Will you unplug all devices that utilize electricity to support those individuals working at the various power plants?

- Will you refrain from using any water in your home for cooking, showering, etc in order to support those individuals working at the various water refinement plants?

- WIll you hold your bowels for the day in order to support those individuals working at the sewer plant?

- How about not contacting the fire or emergency services on this day just so they can stay home with their families?

The list can go on and on - acting as if it's some grave injustice that some folks in retail have to work on a holiday is an insult to all of those individuals that have to work on that same holiday (and all other holidays as well) of which you have no issue whatsoever utilizing those services (either directly or indirectly).

Happy Thanksgiving!

Yes, clearly buying crap from Wal Mart is just as important as maintaining police and emergency services.

Yeah - not even close to what was being said.

 

[Mr. Cross]

So it looks like the concensus is that we should just get rid of all paid holidays. Why should just "those people" have to work on holidays? We should all work.

You're despicable.

Paid holidays are Communistic and promote sodomy.

What does sodomy and Communism have to do with this? You better go do your chores or mommy isn't going to give you an allowance this week.

 

[TheIronSheik]

I like this poster, but he tries a little too hard.

I like this poster better.

 

[Mr. Cross]

I do agree that the Commies are the enemy though.

 

[Limp Ditka]

I do agree that the Commies are the enemy though.

But not sodomy..... Interesting.

 

[TheIronSheik]

I do agree that the Commies are the enemy though.

But not sodomy..... Interesting.

I'm just the opposite. I believe Sodomites are the enemy.

 

[Apple Jack]

This thread is funny.

 

[Parrothead]

I do agree that the Commies are the enemy though.

But not sodomy..... Interesting.

ever sodomize a turkey?

 

[NCCommish]

I do agree that the Commies are the enemy though.

But not sodomy..... Interesting.

Nothing wrong with a little sodomy amongst friends. But sharing resources according to need? That's whack.

 

[Smack Tripper]

As I posted in a previous thread on this topic...



Lots of jobs require people to work holidays. My local supermarket is open on almost every big holiday, for at least a portion of the day. Lifeguards are required to work on Memorial Day, July 4th, and Labor Day. Referees, chain gangs, ticket takers, hot dog vendors, parking garage workers, etc. are all required to work the big Thanksgiving football games that we love so much. IT professionals are often required to work three day weekends to do conversions or upgrades during downtime.

Why are we mad about this particular one?

Because this change is happening now.Emergency, essential personnel, docs, nurses, firemen, police, military, realize that holiday work is a term of service. Ditto those that sign up for life guarding. Thanksgiving football is also an established tradition.

This is a new trend and I rarely meet anyone outward excited by it. Retail is the most common occupation in America. You're taking about fragments of employees and looking at a much broader and substantial change for people that will see little, financially, for their surrendering of a holiday that was considered pretty untouchable based on its secular status

So, essentially, this is bad because change is bad? As long as worker A has been required to work holiday Z for more than N years, it's fine. When the first Thanksgiving NFL game was scheduled, should we have been upset about it? How many years is N, where we can begin saying "it's tradition" rather than "those #######s"?

Yes because those workers understood the terms if service when they agreed to their occupation.

 

[TheIronSheik]

As I posted in a previous thread on this topic...



Lots of jobs require people to work holidays. My local supermarket is open on almost every big holiday, for at least a portion of the day. Lifeguards are required to work on Memorial Day, July 4th, and Labor Day. Referees, chain gangs, ticket takers, hot dog vendors, parking garage workers, etc. are all required to work the big Thanksgiving football games that we love so much. IT professionals are often required to work three day weekends to do conversions or upgrades during downtime.

Why are we mad about this particular one?

Because this change is happening now.Emergency, essential personnel, docs, nurses, firemen, police, military, realize that holiday work is a term of service. Ditto those that sign up for life guarding. Thanksgiving football is also an established tradition.

This is a new trend and I rarely meet anyone outward excited by it. Retail is the most common occupation in America. You're taking about fragments of employees and looking at a much broader and substantial change for people that will see little, financially, for their surrendering of a holiday that was considered pretty untouchable based on its secular status

So, essentially, this is bad because change is bad? As long as worker A has been required to work holiday Z for more than N years, it's fine. When the first Thanksgiving NFL game was scheduled, should we have been upset about it? How many years is N, where we can begin saying "it's tradition" rather than "those #######s"?

Yes because those workers understood the terms if service when they agreed to their occupation.

Good news, though. If they don't want to work holidays they can find a new job. Yay, America!

 

[NCCommish]

As I posted in a previous thread on this topic...



Lots of jobs require people to work holidays. My local supermarket is open on almost every big holiday, for at least a portion of the day. Lifeguards are required to work on Memorial Day, July 4th, and Labor Day. Referees, chain gangs, ticket takers, hot dog vendors, parking garage workers, etc. are all required to work the big Thanksgiving football games that we love so much. IT professionals are often required to work three day weekends to do conversions or upgrades during downtime.

Why are we mad about this particular one?

Because this change is happening now.Emergency, essential personnel, docs, nurses, firemen, police, military, realize that holiday work is a term of service. Ditto those that sign up for life guarding. Thanksgiving football is also an established tradition.

This is a new trend and I rarely meet anyone outward excited by it. Retail is the most common occupation in America. You're taking about fragments of employees and looking at a much broader and substantial change for people that will see little, financially, for their surrendering of a holiday that was considered pretty untouchable based on its secular status

So, essentially, this is bad because change is bad? As long as worker A has been required to work holiday Z for more than N years, it's fine. When the first Thanksgiving NFL game was scheduled, should we have been upset about it? How many years is N, where we can begin saying "it's tradition" rather than "those #######s"?

Yes because those workers understood the terms if service when they agreed to their occupation.

Good news, though. If they don't want to work holidays they can find a new job. Yay, America!

Unlikely. You do realize a huge part of the American labor market is employed in retail right? You couldn't employ the displaced.

 

[TheIronSheik]

As I posted in a previous thread on this topic...



Lots of jobs require people to work holidays. My local supermarket is open on almost every big holiday, for at least a portion of the day. Lifeguards are required to work on Memorial Day, July 4th, and Labor Day. Referees, chain gangs, ticket takers, hot dog vendors, parking garage workers, etc. are all required to work the big Thanksgiving football games that we love so much. IT professionals are often required to work three day weekends to do conversions or upgrades during downtime.

Why are we mad about this particular one?

Because this change is happening now.Emergency, essential personnel, docs, nurses, firemen, police, military, realize that holiday work is a term of service. Ditto those that sign up for life guarding. Thanksgiving football is also an established tradition.

This is a new trend and I rarely meet anyone outward excited by it. Retail is the most common occupation in America. You're taking about fragments of employees and looking at a much broader and substantial change for people that will see little, financially, for their surrendering of a holiday that was considered pretty untouchable based on its secular status

So, essentially, this is bad because change is bad? As long as worker A has been required to work holiday Z for more than N years, it's fine. When the first Thanksgiving NFL game was scheduled, should we have been upset about it? How many years is N, where we can begin saying "it's tradition" rather than "those #######s"?

Yes because those workers understood the terms if service when they agreed to their occupation.

Good news, though. If they don't want to work holidays they can find a new job. Yay, America!

Unlikely. You do realize a huge part of the American labor market is employed in retail right? You couldn't employ the displaced.

Me? No, I definitely couldn't employ the displaced. Maybe a couple, but that's about it.

 

[Smack Tripper]

As I posted in a previous thread on this topic...



Lots of jobs require people to work holidays. My local supermarket is open on almost every big holiday, for at least a portion of the day. Lifeguards are required to work on Memorial Day, July 4th, and Labor Day. Referees, chain gangs, ticket takers, hot dog vendors, parking garage workers, etc. are all required to work the big Thanksgiving football games that we love so much. IT professionals are often required to work three day weekends to do conversions or upgrades during downtime.

Why are we mad about this particular one?

Because this change is happening now.Emergency, essential personnel, docs, nurses, firemen, police, military, realize that holiday work is a term of service. Ditto those that sign up for life guarding. Thanksgiving football is also an established tradition.

This is a new trend and I rarely meet anyone outward excited by it. Retail is the most common occupation in America. You're taking about fragments of employees and looking at a much broader and substantial change for people that will see little, financially, for their surrendering of a holiday that was considered pretty untouchable based on its secular status

So, essentially, this is bad because change is bad? As long as worker A has been required to work holiday Z for more than N years, it's fine. When the first Thanksgiving NFL game was scheduled, should we have been upset about it? How many years is N, where we can begin saying "it's tradition" rather than "those #######s"?

Yes because those workers understood the terms if service when they agreed to their occupation.

Good news, though. If they don't want to work holidays they can find a new job. Yay, America!

Unlikely. You do realize a huge part of the American labor market is employed in retail right? You couldn't employ the displaced.

Me? No, I definitely couldn't employ the displaced. Maybe a couple, but that's about it.

If we support free will and free choice, why are workers not free to take a day off without penalty?

Personally, I would support a national blue law from 6am local time Thanksgiving morning for 24 hours in which only essential items and food are available for sale.

 

[RCon]

As I posted in a previous thread on this topic...



Lots of jobs require people to work holidays. My local supermarket is open on almost every big holiday, for at least a portion of the day. Lifeguards are required to work on Memorial Day, July 4th, and Labor Day. Referees, chain gangs, ticket takers, hot dog vendors, parking garage workers, etc. are all required to work the big Thanksgiving football games that we love so much. IT professionals are often required to work three day weekends to do conversions or upgrades during downtime.

Why are we mad about this particular one?

Because this change is happening now.Emergency, essential personnel, docs, nurses, firemen, police, military, realize that holiday work is a term of service. Ditto those that sign up for life guarding. Thanksgiving football is also an established tradition.

This is a new trend and I rarely meet anyone outward excited by it. Retail is the most common occupation in America. You're taking about fragments of employees and looking at a much broader and substantial change for people that will see little, financially, for their surrendering of a holiday that was considered pretty untouchable based on its secular status

So, essentially, this is bad because change is bad? As long as worker A has been required to work holiday Z for more than N years, it's fine. When the first Thanksgiving NFL game was scheduled, should we have been upset about it? How many years is N, where we can begin saying "it's tradition" rather than "those #######s"?

Yes because those workers understood the terms if service when they agreed to their occupation.

Ah, I see. You're upset because Walmart, et. al, are violating the signed contracts they had with their employees?

Seriously, every job gets different holidays off. I don't get MLK Day or Columbus Day. Others don't get Thanksgiving. Others don't get the day after Thanksgiving. Others don't get Christmas. Some jobs get extra pay for working those days, some don't. I really don't see why we're upset about one particular job that doesn't get one particular holiday off.

You seem to be saying that we should be upset because the workers in this particular job are no longer getting a particular day that they did last year. Essentially, you're suggesting that no company anywhere should ever decide to be open on a day that they weren't previously open?

 

[Ignoramus]

As I posted in a previous thread on this topic...



Lots of jobs require people to work holidays. My local supermarket is open on almost every big holiday, for at least a portion of the day. Lifeguards are required to work on Memorial Day, July 4th, and Labor Day. Referees, chain gangs, ticket takers, hot dog vendors, parking garage workers, etc. are all required to work the big Thanksgiving football games that we love so much. IT professionals are often required to work three day weekends to do conversions or upgrades during downtime.

Why are we mad about this particular one?

Because this change is happening now.Emergency, essential personnel, docs, nurses, firemen, police, military, realize that holiday work is a term of service. Ditto those that sign up for life guarding. Thanksgiving football is also an established tradition.

This is a new trend and I rarely meet anyone outward excited by it. Retail is the most common occupation in America. You're taking about fragments of employees and looking at a much broader and substantial change for people that will see little, financially, for their surrendering of a holiday that was considered pretty untouchable based on its secular status

So, essentially, this is bad because change is bad? As long as worker A has been required to work holiday Z for more than N years, it's fine. When the first Thanksgiving NFL game was scheduled, should we have been upset about it? How many years is N, where we can begin saying "it's tradition" rather than "those #######s"?

I was told there would be no math.

 

[Apple Jack]

This holiday thing has gotten out of control. Have to work on Thursday? Eat turkey on Friday instead. WTF?

 

[TxBuckeye]

So those with a particular type of job should be able to spend the holiday with their family as opposed to others. Got it. Looks like it's me who should feel badly for you in that case.

I spent more holidays away from friends and family than you ever will. I didn't bother taking time to feel sorry for myself. But if you want to feel badly for me, picturing me on my couch in the comfort of home surrounded by family while you fight with a couple hundred Beluga Whales in stretch pants and sweaters so you can save $50 on the big screen Dynex, go right ahead.

 

[Thunderlips]

As I posted in a previous thread on this topic...



Lots of jobs require people to work holidays. My local supermarket is open on almost every big holiday, for at least a portion of the day. Lifeguards are required to work on Memorial Day, July 4th, and Labor Day. Referees, chain gangs, ticket takers, hot dog vendors, parking garage workers, etc. are all required to work the big Thanksgiving football games that we love so much. IT professionals are often required to work three day weekends to do conversions or upgrades during downtime.

Why are we mad about this particular one?

Because this change is happening now.

Emergency, essential personnel, docs, nurses, firemen, police, military, realize that holiday work is a term of service. Ditto those that sign up for life guarding. Thanksgiving football is also an established tradition.

This is a new trend and I rarely meet anyone outward excited by it. Retail is the most common occupation in America. You're taking about fragments of employees and looking at a much broader and substantial change for people that will see little, financially, for their surrendering of a holiday that was considered pretty untouchable based on its secular status

So, essentially, this is bad because change is bad? As long as worker A has been required to work holiday Z for more than N years, it's fine. When the first Thanksgiving NFL game was scheduled, should we have been upset about it? How many years is N, where we can begin saying "it's tradition" rather than "those #######s"?

I imagine there was a level of outrage over it. I know that there was outrage when stores in my area pushed to open on Sundays years ago. I know there was outrage recently over allowing liquor stores to open on Sunday.....with a key component of both arguments aganst being that opening these circumvented a traditional idea that Sunday was a day of rest and a family day.

 

[Fennis]

So it looks like the concensus is that we should just get rid of all paid holidays. Why should just "those people" have to work on holidays? We should all work.

Most of you people are a bunch of narcissistic loners that don't care about anybody else and don't have anybody that likes you enough to spend time with you on a holiday.

I feel like this should happen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbqHZiap_u4

 

[Smack Tripper]

As I posted in a previous thread on this topic...



Lots of jobs require people to work holidays. My local supermarket is open on almost every big holiday, for at least a portion of the day. Lifeguards are required to work on Memorial Day, July 4th, and Labor Day. Referees, chain gangs, ticket takers, hot dog vendors, parking garage workers, etc. are all required to work the big Thanksgiving football games that we love so much. IT professionals are often required to work three day weekends to do conversions or upgrades during downtime.

Why are we mad about this particular one?

Because this change is happening now.Emergency, essential personnel, docs, nurses, firemen, police, military, realize that holiday work is a term of service. Ditto those that sign up for life guarding. Thanksgiving football is also an established tradition.

This is a new trend and I rarely meet anyone outward excited by it. Retail is the most common occupation in America. You're taking about fragments of employees and looking at a much broader and substantial change for people that will see little, financially, for their surrendering of a holiday that was considered pretty untouchable based on its secular status

So, essentially, this is bad because change is bad? As long as worker A has been required to work holiday Z for more than N years, it's fine. When the first Thanksgiving NFL game was scheduled, should we have been upset about it? How many years is N, where we can begin saying "it's tradition" rather than "those #######s"?

Yes because those workers understood the terms if service when they agreed to their occupation.

Ah, I see. You're upset because Walmart, et. al, are violating the signed contracts they had with their employees?

Seriously, every job gets different holidays off. I don't get MLK Day or Columbus Day. Others don't get Thanksgiving. Others don't get the day after Thanksgiving. Others don't get Christmas. Some jobs get extra pay for working those days, some don't. I really don't see why we're upset about one particular job that doesn't get one particular holiday off.

You seem to be saying that we should be upset because the workers in this particular job are no longer getting a particular day that they did last year. Essentially, you're suggesting that no company anywhere should ever decide to be open on a day that they weren't previously open?

Just because you CAN take advantage of someone doesn't mean you SHOULD take advantage of someone. Retailers can abuse people because they can, and retail employees can be abused because, on the whole, they need those jobs.

This isn't one job, this is the number one job in America, encompassing over 4 million people.

Thanksgiving isn't just one particular holiday either. At the risk of being maudlin, it is a national, secular holiday, forged in both the roots of our place as a nation, and a celebration and symbol of harvest. It is, and was, for 230 years, very much assumed that the vast majority of Americans would celebrate and enjoy it. Yes, you could tell me there are casino workers or a gas station worker that has to work this day, but it has never been a sea change to being the number one job in America facing a major portion of it going to work on a given day.

You would like to think that common sense might rule the day, that bargain hunters might make this day a failure by not going, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Well, sometimes, people need to be protected from themselves.

For that reason, I support a national blue law from 6am Thanksgiving morning until 6am the day after thanksgiving. The bargains will still be there, and maybe some people would get to enjoy a courtesy that was once so common sense you didn't need to legislate for it.

 

[Doubtingthomas]

Are you running for city council Tripper?

 

[mad sweeney]

I should've gotten a picture, but I felt too badly for the guy. At the mall L.A., seated all alone in a grotesquely oversized chair without even a single elf to keep him company, sat Santa, waiting for the little childrens to get their picture taken. There were no takers when I walked in and he looked just as bored and lonely as I walked past him on the way out. It's 2 weeks to Thanksgiving, wtf are they doing with Santa out there already?!

 

[cstu]

As I posted in a previous thread on this topic...



Lots of jobs require people to work holidays. My local supermarket is open on almost every big holiday, for at least a portion of the day. Lifeguards are required to work on Memorial Day, July 4th, and Labor Day. Referees, chain gangs, ticket takers, hot dog vendors, parking garage workers, etc. are all required to work the big Thanksgiving football games that we love so much. IT professionals are often required to work three day weekends to do conversions or upgrades during downtime.

Why are we mad about this particular one?

Because this change is happening now.Emergency, essential personnel, docs, nurses, firemen, police, military, realize that holiday work is a term of service. Ditto those that sign up for life guarding. Thanksgiving football is also an established tradition.

This is a new trend and I rarely meet anyone outward excited by it. Retail is the most common occupation in America. You're taking about fragments of employees and looking at a much broader and substantial change for people that will see little, financially, for their surrendering of a holiday that was considered pretty untouchable based on its secular status

So, essentially, this is bad because change is bad? As long as worker A has been required to work holiday Z for more than N years, it's fine. When the first Thanksgiving NFL game was scheduled, should we have been upset about it? How many years is N, where we can begin saying "it's tradition" rather than "those #######s"?

I was told there would be no math.

Reality bites.

 

[Clifford]

It won't be long until we are all working on Thanksgiving and the Friday awfterwards. What for? To get a good deal on junk that will be useless in a couple of years. Fear GOD and stop worshipping false idols!!!

http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/breakout/walmart-makes-official-thanksgiving-dead-165653391.html

Not sure what god has to do with Thanksgiving.

Punishing pagans

 

[msommer]

It won't be long until we are all working on Thanksgiving and the Friday awfterwards. What for? To get a good deal on junk that will be useless in a couple of years. Fear GOD and stop worshipping false idols!!!

http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/breakout/walmart-makes-official-thanksgiving-dead-165653391.html

Not sure what god has to do with Thanksgiving.

Punishing pagans

So God is actually telling Walmart to do this, interesting...

The plot thickens...

 

[TheIronSheik]

As I posted in a previous thread on this topic...



Lots of jobs require people to work holidays. My local supermarket is open on almost every big holiday, for at least a portion of the day. Lifeguards are required to work on Memorial Day, July 4th, and Labor Day. Referees, chain gangs, ticket takers, hot dog vendors, parking garage workers, etc. are all required to work the big Thanksgiving football games that we love so much. IT professionals are often required to work three day weekends to do conversions or upgrades during downtime.

Why are we mad about this particular one?

Because this change is happening now.Emergency, essential personnel, docs, nurses, firemen, police, military, realize that holiday work is a term of service. Ditto those that sign up for life guarding. Thanksgiving football is also an established tradition.

This is a new trend and I rarely meet anyone outward excited by it. Retail is the most common occupation in America. You're taking about fragments of employees and looking at a much broader and substantial change for people that will see little, financially, for their surrendering of a holiday that was considered pretty untouchable based on its secular status

So, essentially, this is bad because change is bad? As long as worker A has been required to work holiday Z for more than N years, it's fine. When the first Thanksgiving NFL game was scheduled, should we have been upset about it? How many years is N, where we can begin saying "it's tradition" rather than "those #######s"?

Yes because those workers understood the terms if service when they agreed to their occupation.

Good news, though. If they don't want to work holidays they can find a new job. Yay, America!

Unlikely. You do realize a huge part of the American labor market is employed in retail right? You couldn't employ the displaced.

Me? No, I definitely couldn't employ the displaced. Maybe a couple, but that's about it.

If we support free will and free choice, why are workers not free to take a day off without penalty?

Personally, I would support a national blue law from 6am local time Thanksgiving morning for 24 hours in which only essential items and food are available for sale.

Why aren't workers allowed to murder co-workers either? Just the man trying to keep us down, I guess. Thanks a lot, Obama.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

As I posted in a previous thread on this topic...



Lots of jobs require people to work holidays. My local supermarket is open on almost every big holiday, for at least a portion of the day. Lifeguards are required to work on Memorial Day, July 4th, and Labor Day. Referees, chain gangs, ticket takers, hot dog vendors, parking garage workers, etc. are all required to work the big Thanksgiving football games that we love so much. IT professionals are often required to work three day weekends to do conversions or upgrades during downtime.

Why are we mad about this particular one?

Because this change is happening now.Emergency, essential personnel, docs, nurses, firemen, police, military, realize that holiday work is a term of service. Ditto those that sign up for life guarding. Thanksgiving football is also an established tradition.

This is a new trend and I rarely meet anyone outward excited by it. Retail is the most common occupation in America. You're taking about fragments of employees and looking at a much broader and substantial change for people that will see little, financially, for their surrendering of a holiday that was considered pretty untouchable based on its secular status

So, essentially, this is bad because change is bad? As long as worker A has been required to work holiday Z for more than N years, it's fine. When the first Thanksgiving NFL game was scheduled, should we have been upset about it? How many years is N, where we can begin saying "it's tradition" rather than "those #######s"?

Yes because those workers understood the terms if service when they agreed to their occupation.

Good news, though. If they don't want to work holidays they can find a new job. Yay, America!

Unlikely. You do realize a huge part of the American labor market is employed in retail right? You couldn't employ the displaced.

Me? No, I definitely couldn't employ the displaced. Maybe a couple, but that's about it.

If we support free will and free choice, why are workers not free to take a day off without penalty?

Personally, I would support a national blue law from 6am local time Thanksgiving morning for 24 hours in which only essential items and food are available for sale.

Certainly no better way than that to celebrate free will and free choice.

 

[Sinn Fein]

If we support free will and free choice, why are workers not free to take a day off without penalty?

Personally, I would support a national blue law from 6am local time Thanksgiving morning for 24 hours in which only essential items and food are available for sale.

What if I need a new TV to watch football?

 

[Long Ball Larry]

RT @dogboner mommy is with the angels now, baby. she died trying to get us a panini press. u dont understand... it was $19. they're reg $25!


5:43 AM - 23 Nov 12

 

[RCon]

For that reason, I support a national blue law from 6am Thanksgiving morning until 6am the day after thanksgiving. The bargains will still be there, and maybe some people would get to enjoy a courtesy that was once so common sense you didn't need to legislate for it.

Except you don't support a national blue law. You support one with certain exceptions that you've defined. I'm assuming you're still allowing beer, hot dogs, etc. at the football games to be sold? Gas and coffee on the way to the stadium? Tickets at the stadium window?

What makes your list of exceptions more valid than mine or Walmart's?

 

[danielmclark]

As I posted in a previous thread on this topic...



Lots of jobs require people to work holidays. My local supermarket is open on almost every big holiday, for at least a portion of the day. Lifeguards are required to work on Memorial Day, July 4th, and Labor Day. Referees, chain gangs, ticket takers, hot dog vendors, parking garage workers, etc. are all required to work the big Thanksgiving football games that we love so much. IT professionals are often required to work three day weekends to do conversions or upgrades during downtime.

Why are we mad about this particular one?

Because this change is happening now.Emergency, essential personnel, docs, nurses, firemen, police, military, realize that holiday work is a term of service. Ditto those that sign up for life guarding. Thanksgiving football is also an established tradition.

This is a new trend and I rarely meet anyone outward excited by it. Retail is the most common occupation in America. You're taking about fragments of employees and looking at a much broader and substantial change for people that will see little, financially, for their surrendering of a holiday that was considered pretty untouchable based on its secular status

So, essentially, this is bad because change is bad? As long as worker A has been required to work holiday Z for more than N years, it's fine. When the first Thanksgiving NFL game was scheduled, should we have been upset about it? How many years is N, where we can begin saying "it's tradition" rather than "those #######s"?

Yes because those workers understood the terms if service when they agreed to their occupation.

Good news, though. If they don't want to work holidays they can find a new job. Yay, America!

Unlikely. You do realize a huge part of the American labor market is employed in retail right? You couldn't employ the displaced.

Me? No, I definitely couldn't employ the displaced. Maybe a couple, but that's about it.

If we support free will and free choice, why are workers not free to take a day off without penalty?

Personally, I would support a national blue law from 6am local time Thanksgiving morning for 24 hours in which only essential items and food are available for sale.

Why aren't workers allowed to murder co-workers either? Just the man trying to keep us down, I guess. Thanks a lot, Obama.

####### Obama. Just leave it to a guy like that to disallow murdering our coworkers. Next thing you know, it won't be legal to smack our wives around or drive drunk - and then how else will I get my car back to my house?! THANKS A LOT OBAMA.

 

[TheIronSheik]

As I posted in a previous thread on this topic...



Lots of jobs require people to work holidays. My local supermarket is open on almost every big holiday, for at least a portion of the day. Lifeguards are required to work on Memorial Day, July 4th, and Labor Day. Referees, chain gangs, ticket takers, hot dog vendors, parking garage workers, etc. are all required to work the big Thanksgiving football games that we love so much. IT professionals are often required to work three day weekends to do conversions or upgrades during downtime.

Why are we mad about this particular one?

Because this change is happening now.Emergency, essential personnel, docs, nurses, firemen, police, military, realize that holiday work is a term of service. Ditto those that sign up for life guarding. Thanksgiving football is also an established tradition.

This is a new trend and I rarely meet anyone outward excited by it. Retail is the most common occupation in America. You're taking about fragments of employees and looking at a much broader and substantial change for people that will see little, financially, for their surrendering of a holiday that was considered pretty untouchable based on its secular status

So, essentially, this is bad because change is bad? As long as worker A has been required to work holiday Z for more than N years, it's fine. When the first Thanksgiving NFL game was scheduled, should we have been upset about it? How many years is N, where we can begin saying "it's tradition" rather than "those #######s"?

Yes because those workers understood the terms if service when they agreed to their occupation.

Good news, though. If they don't want to work holidays they can find a new job. Yay, America!

Unlikely. You do realize a huge part of the American labor market is employed in retail right? You couldn't employ the displaced.

Me? No, I definitely couldn't employ the displaced. Maybe a couple, but that's about it.

If we support free will and free choice, why are workers not free to take a day off without penalty?

Personally, I would support a national blue law from 6am local time Thanksgiving morning for 24 hours in which only essential items and food are available for sale.

Why aren't workers allowed to murder co-workers either? Just the man trying to keep us down, I guess. Thanks a lot, Obama.

####### Obama. Just leave it to a guy like that to disallow murdering our coworkers. Next thing you know, it won't be legal to smack our wives around or drive drunk - and then how else will I get my car back to my house?! THANKS A LOT OBAMA.

Free will and free choice my ###.

 

[Apple Jack]

What about all the bands who perform the Last Waltz on Thanksgiving? And the bars/clubs that host them. What about them?

 

[Mr. Cross]

For that reason, I support a national blue law from 6am Thanksgiving morning until 6am the day after thanksgiving. The bargains will still be there, and maybe some people would get to enjoy a courtesy that was once so common sense you didn't need to legislate for it.

Except you don't support a national blue law. You support one with certain exceptions that you've defined. I'm assuming you're still allowing beer, hot dogs, etc. at the football games to be sold? Gas and coffee on the way to the stadium? Tickets at the stadium window?

What makes your list of exceptions more valid than mine or Walmart's?

Retail, employees a lot more people than a couple of football games. Millions more. Plus it's a tradition in Dallas and Detroit to host the games every year. If you watch the games, you might notice that they quite enjoy having the honor. If you want to argue about the newly added night game, fine.

You are either one of the aforementioned losers that nobody wants to hang around on Thanksgiving or an elitist that thinks it is okay for you to have a day off while "those people" work.

 

[RCon]

For that reason, I support a national blue law from 6am Thanksgiving morning until 6am the day after thanksgiving. The bargains will still be there, and maybe some people would get to enjoy a courtesy that was once so common sense you didn't need to legislate for it.

Except you don't support a national blue law. You support one with certain exceptions that you've defined. I'm assuming you're still allowing beer, hot dogs, etc. at the football games to be sold? Gas and coffee on the way to the stadium? Tickets at the stadium window?

What makes your list of exceptions more valid than mine or Walmart's?

Retail, employees a lot more people than a couple of football games. Millions more. Plus it's a tradition in Dallas and Detroit to host the games every year. If you watch the games, you might notice that they quite enjoy having the honor. If you want to argue about the newly added night game, fine.

You are either one of the aforementioned losers that nobody wants to hang around on Thanksgiving or an elitist that thinks it is okay for you to have a day off while "those people" work.

Right. As long as the tradition has been going on for a while, it's OK. If it's new, it's not OK. The end of slavery must have been very crushing to your world view.

The good news is, in a few years, we can call Walmartsgiving a tradition, and then you'll happy about it.

 

[Apple Jack]

For that reason, I support a national blue law from 6am Thanksgiving morning until 6am the day after thanksgiving. The bargains will still be there, and maybe some people would get to enjoy a courtesy that was once so common sense you didn't need to legislate for it.

Except you don't support a national blue law. You support one with certain exceptions that you've defined. I'm assuming you're still allowing beer, hot dogs, etc. at the football games to be sold? Gas and coffee on the way to the stadium? Tickets at the stadium window?

What makes your list of exceptions more valid than mine or Walmart's?

Retail, employees a lot more people than a couple of football games. Millions more. Plus it's a tradition in Dallas and Detroit to host the games every year. If you watch the games, you might notice that they quite enjoy having the honor. If you want to argue about the newly added night game, fine.

You are either one of the aforementioned losers that nobody wants to hang around on Thanksgiving or an elitist that thinks it is okay for you to have a day off while "those people" work.

Aren't we quite the victim.

 

[TheIronSheik]

For that reason, I support a national blue law from 6am Thanksgiving morning until 6am the day after thanksgiving. The bargains will still be there, and maybe some people would get to enjoy a courtesy that was once so common sense you didn't need to legislate for it.

Except you don't support a national blue law. You support one with certain exceptions that you've defined. I'm assuming you're still allowing beer, hot dogs, etc. at the football games to be sold? Gas and coffee on the way to the stadium? Tickets at the stadium window?

What makes your list of exceptions more valid than mine or Walmart's?

Retail, employees a lot more people than a couple of football games. Millions more. Plus it's a tradition in Dallas and Detroit to host the games every year. If you watch the games, you might notice that they quite enjoy having the honor. If you want to argue about the newly added night game, fine.

You are either one of the aforementioned losers that nobody wants to hang around on Thanksgiving or an elitist that thinks it is okay for you to have a day off while "those people" work.

Just out of curiosity, are you in the Retail industry?

 

[Mr. Cross]

For that reason, I support a national blue law from 6am Thanksgiving morning until 6am the day after thanksgiving. The bargains will still be there, and maybe some people would get to enjoy a courtesy that was once so common sense you didn't need to legislate for it.

Except you don't support a national blue law. You support one with certain exceptions that you've defined. I'm assuming you're still allowing beer, hot dogs, etc. at the football games to be sold? Gas and coffee on the way to the stadium? Tickets at the stadium window?

What makes your list of exceptions more valid than mine or Walmart's?

Retail, employees a lot more people than a couple of football games. Millions more. Plus it's a tradition in Dallas and Detroit to host the games every year. If you watch the games, you might notice that they quite enjoy having the honor. If you want to argue about the newly added night game, fine.

You are either one of the aforementioned losers that nobody wants to hang around on Thanksgiving or an elitist that thinks it is okay for you to have a day off while "those people" work.

Right. As long as the tradition has been going on for a while, it's OK. If it's new, it's not OK. The end of slavery must have been very crushing to your world view.

The good news is, in a few years, we can call Walmartsgiving a tradition, and then you'll happy about it.

Going from 150 years off for all non-essential (police, fire, healthcare) people to making the non-essential lower class work is more like moving back to slavery.

You're not even as smart as a serpent.

 

[Mr. Cross]

For that reason, I support a national blue law from 6am Thanksgiving morning until 6am the day after thanksgiving. The bargains will still be there, and maybe some people would get to enjoy a courtesy that was once so common sense you didn't need to legislate for it.

Except you don't support a national blue law. You support one with certain exceptions that you've defined. I'm assuming you're still allowing beer, hot dogs, etc. at the football games to be sold? Gas and coffee on the way to the stadium? Tickets at the stadium window?

What makes your list of exceptions more valid than mine or Walmart's?

Retail, employees a lot more people than a couple of football games. Millions more. Plus it's a tradition in Dallas and Detroit to host the games every year. If you watch the games, you might notice that they quite enjoy having the honor. If you want to argue about the newly added night game, fine.

You are either one of the aforementioned losers that nobody wants to hang around on Thanksgiving or an elitist that thinks it is okay for you to have a day off while "those people" work.

Just out of curiosity, are you in the Retail industry?

No

 

[TheIronSheik]

For that reason, I support a national blue law from 6am Thanksgiving morning until 6am the day after thanksgiving. The bargains will still be there, and maybe some people would get to enjoy a courtesy that was once so common sense you didn't need to legislate for it.

Except you don't support a national blue law. You support one with certain exceptions that you've defined. I'm assuming you're still allowing beer, hot dogs, etc. at the football games to be sold? Gas and coffee on the way to the stadium? Tickets at the stadium window?

What makes your list of exceptions more valid than mine or Walmart's?

Retail, employees a lot more people than a couple of football games. Millions more. Plus it's a tradition in Dallas and Detroit to host the games every year. If you watch the games, you might notice that they quite enjoy having the honor. If you want to argue about the newly added night game, fine.

You are either one of the aforementioned losers that nobody wants to hang around on Thanksgiving or an elitist that thinks it is okay for you to have a day off while "those people" work.

Just out of curiosity, are you in the Retail industry?

No

Interesting. I can't imagine being that passionate about something that didn't affect me. Bravo to you, I guess. I don't agree with you, but I admire your determination.

 

[danielmclark]

For that reason, I support a national blue law from 6am Thanksgiving morning until 6am the day after thanksgiving. The bargains will still be there, and maybe some people would get to enjoy a courtesy that was once so common sense you didn't need to legislate for it.

Except you don't support a national blue law. You support one with certain exceptions that you've defined. I'm assuming you're still allowing beer, hot dogs, etc. at the football games to be sold? Gas and coffee on the way to the stadium? Tickets at the stadium window?

What makes your list of exceptions more valid than mine or Walmart's?

Retail, employees a lot more people than a couple of football games. Millions more. Plus it's a tradition in Dallas and Detroit to host the games every year. If you watch the games, you might notice that they quite enjoy having the honor. If you want to argue about the newly added night game, fine.

You are either one of the aforementioned losers that nobody wants to hang around on Thanksgiving or an elitist that thinks it is okay for you to have a day off while "those people" work.

Right. As long as the tradition has been going on for a while, it's OK. If it's new, it's not OK. The end of slavery must have been very crushing to your world view.

The good news is, in a few years, we can call Walmartsgiving a tradition, and then you'll happy about it.

Going from 150 years off for all non-essential (police, fire, healthcare) people to making the non-essential lower class work is more like moving back to slavery.

You're not even as smart as a serpent.

Wow. Just... wow.

Any African Americans around who would like to address the comparison of working a paid job on Thanksgiving to being a slave? I don't think I could do it justice.

 

[Mr. Cross]

For that reason, I support a national blue law from 6am Thanksgiving morning until 6am the day after thanksgiving. The bargains will still be there, and maybe some people would get to enjoy a courtesy that was once so common sense you didn't need to legislate for it.

Except you don't support a national blue law. You support one with certain exceptions that you've defined. I'm assuming you're still allowing beer, hot dogs, etc. at the football games to be sold? Gas and coffee on the way to the stadium? Tickets at the stadium window?

What makes your list of exceptions more valid than mine or Walmart's?

Retail, employees a lot more people than a couple of football games. Millions more. Plus it's a tradition in Dallas and Detroit to host the games every year. If you watch the games, you might notice that they quite enjoy having the honor. If you want to argue about the newly added night game, fine.

You are either one of the aforementioned losers that nobody wants to hang around on Thanksgiving or an elitist that thinks it is okay for you to have a day off while "those people" work.

Right. As long as the tradition has been going on for a while, it's OK. If it's new, it's not OK. The end of slavery must have been very crushing to your world view.

The good news is, in a few years, we can call Walmartsgiving a tradition, and then you'll happy about it.

Going from 150 years off for all non-essential (police, fire, healthcare) people to making the non-essential lower class work is more like moving back to slavery.

You're not even as smart as a serpent.

Wow. Just... wow.

Any African Americans around who would like to address the comparison of working a paid job on Thanksgiving to being a slave? I don't think I could do it justice.

He posted that people being forced to work on what was a paid holiday is akin to the slaves being freed.

 

[Sinn Fein]

For that reason, I support a national blue law from 6am Thanksgiving morning until 6am the day after thanksgiving. The bargains will still be there, and maybe some people would get to enjoy a courtesy that was once so common sense you didn't need to legislate for it.

Except you don't support a national blue law. You support one with certain exceptions that you've defined. I'm assuming you're still allowing beer, hot dogs, etc. at the football games to be sold? Gas and coffee on the way to the stadium? Tickets at the stadium window?

What makes your list of exceptions more valid than mine or Walmart's?

Retail, employees a lot more people than a couple of football games. Millions more. Plus it's a tradition in Dallas and Detroit to host the games every year. If you watch the games, you might notice that they quite enjoy having the honor. If you want to argue about the newly added night game, fine.

You are either one of the aforementioned losers that nobody wants to hang around on Thanksgiving or an elitist that thinks it is okay for you to have a day off while "those people" work.

Right. As long as the tradition has been going on for a while, it's OK. If it's new, it's not OK. The end of slavery must have been very crushing to your world view.

The good news is, in a few years, we can call Walmartsgiving a tradition, and then you'll happy about it.

Going from 150 years off for all non-essential (police, fire, healthcare) people to making the non-essential lower class work is more like moving back to slavery.

You're not even as smart as a serpent.

Wow. Just... wow.

Any African Americans around who would like to address the comparison of working a paid job on Thanksgiving to being a slave? I don't think I could do it justice.

racist.

Why do you assume this is something only an African American can handle?

 

[RCon]

He posted that people being forced to work on what was a paid holiday is akin to the slaves being freed.

Reading comprehension down?

 

[Mr. Cross]

You people need to reevaluate your lives and make a friend that would spend a day with you.

 

[Apple Jack]

He posted that people being forced to work on what was a paid holiday is akin to the slaves being freed.

Reading comprehension down?

Not sure it was ever up.

 

[RCon]

Whose alias is Mr. Cross? That you, LHUCKS?

 

[Mr. Cross]

He posted that people being forced to work on what was a paid holiday is akin to the slaves being freed.

Reading comprehension down?

Freeing the slaves was good, making people work that would have been paid any way, is bad.

Have fun sitting by yourself on 11/28 wondering why nobody likes you.