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I never even heard of a peanut allergy until about 15 years ago......Now every family I know has some kid who you have to throw the disclaimer out that "this food was cooked in peanut oil or this pie has pecans in it" etc..... Kind of a pain in the ###.
Crazy, but yeah how do they not know it was from all of the peanuts in previous flights not the 1 bag of this flight? Should probably provide better filters on the hvac systems.
It's the dust in the peanuts package that created the air born particles that created the problem. Candy bars, peanut butter things like that are only going to create issues if people come into direct contact with it. The girl in the above link is an extreme example.
No. That's what the airline is blaming it on because they don't want a lawsuit. It very well could have been that the person sitting in that little girl's seat before her dropped peanut residue all over the seat and the airline crew didn't clean it properly.
I was thinking the OP was maybe a little bit of a jerk, then I read this post and realized that my definition of jerk was a little skewed. This is more like it.
Yep. I would have probably been a lot more polite and apologetic than you were, but I don't necessarily blame you here. As someone else said, you going paid wasted only a few seconds.
I probably would have said something along those lines, too, but then I would have ruined it by calling the sky waitress "lady" at the end of it. (I've only got 10 minutes to make my connection, lady.)
Many airlines if they are 15 minutes late or so will announce to let passengers through who have quick connections. The airline knew there were passengers who were running late for tight connections, and it was actually rude of the airline not to try to accommodate those people first.
Yes, that thought crossed my mind. Probably why I was more curt than I normally would have been.
do they remove all peanuts from the airport, the city, the state? Some how people got along just fine 20-years ago with peanuts on the plane. Now snakes, that is another story all together.
I know it seems counter-intuitive but the leading theory is Western children are growing up in an environment that is too clean. It's so clean it kills the good bacteria as well as the bad. With the loss of the good bacteria they are far more prone to develop nasty allergies. So maybe you don't need to hover over them with a Clorox wipe after all. A cold is a small price to pay to avoid a debilitating allergy.
Correct. It's about our God-given right not to be the slightest bit inconvenienced even as an accommodation to the afflicted.
Overuse of antibiotics are killing good gut bacteria: http://www.healthline.com/health-news/can-gut-bacteria-protect-against-allergies-082514
There comes a point where you need so many accommodations that perhaps it's just a bit silly to expect the rest of the world to cater to you. In this instance you are getting on a plane and you are so allergic the mere opening of a bag of nuts can kill you. The air vents in the plane still hold every molecule that has ever passed through them. The seats are only truly cleaned when they have something visible on them and even then it's the bare minimum to get it back in the air. The people getting on have been exposed to this allergen in pretty much everything they eat. This is a deadly environment for that child. How do you expect to just walk on and say hey no one eat nuts now and this environment is A-Ok? Huge risk to take and it's just stupid to take it. What steps did the parents take? Maybe the little girl should wear a mask in those situations. Maybe there are better ways to travel especially in Europe where high speed rail is ubiquitous and you can get a private berth.Maybe it isn't completely on everyone else.
My guess is that they have a much better idea about the risks of the environment than you do, and what precautions are necessary for their child's particular situation.It's also possible that the passenger simply made the airline aware of the nut allergy to avoid having nuts in the immediate vicinity, and the airline chose to ban nuts on the flight altogether as a precaution (and to reduce litigation risk). And yet the family of the child is the target of everyone's annoyance and ire.
If they are flying I'd say perhaps not. If they regularly serve peanuts on that flight there is no way that environment was nut free before that guy opened the bag. No way. It is not possible. Having worked in restaurants that cater to nut allergies I know very well the preparation rules that must be followed. And you all but need a clean room to follow them all. So only a brand new airframe which had never had a single nut based product in it could possibly be free of the allergen. As I said earlier I don't eat the peanuts when they do hand them out so drop them I couldn't care less. So it isn't about the peanuts at all. At some point you need to take a step or two as the parent. Don't really see where that was done. Maybe that's just poor reporting as everyone had a convenient target they didn't have to feel bad about attacking. Not sure there is any proof it's on him though. The reasoning used so far takes no account of the existing environment. The equivalent of junk science. Correlation does not imply causation. I wouldn't have opened a bag of nuts after being asked not to. Seems like a jerk to do so. But to blame him for what happened is not really reasonable.
You seem to be thinking that I'm talking about the girl from the article in the thread. I'm not. I'm speaking more generally about parents who have children with peanut allergies. I suspect that, as a general matter, they know more about their particular child's condition and the necessary precautions for safe travel than you do. You appear to feel otherwise. Perhaps I'm just more empathetic having a child with a peanut allergy (albeit less severe), and another child who was severely immunosuppressed. We know/knew everything about their conditions, knew what precautions to take and knew what accommodations needed to be made. But there are always those who think they know better. Who think that precautions taken by parents are unnecessary on one hand, or ineffective on the other. And they use their superior knowledge as a basis to complain about being inconvenienced.
While I believe people are bigger aholes than ever, airlines have made being courteous to one another increasingly hard to do....:sad: Flight attendant should have asked folks to step aside for folks with tight connections.
