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Was This God, Or Not? (1 Viewer)
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matuski
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Waingro
Footballguy
Last time I went to a Metallica concert it felt very much like a spiritual journey. James has this unbelievable way of speaking to the crowd that makes us all aware that we are one big family, or that we all have a connection to one another. Once the show starts it just reinforces this and man does the music have a way of rippling through our collective souls. Lars’ kick drum echos through the body, Kirk’s solos touches the heart, thousands of people singing along and flowing (moshing) with the music as one single entity. No one knew or even questioned what our purpose was or what brought us to this point in time, but we all felt that this was exactly where we were supposed to be.
I do not believe in God or a creator but I do feel the need for our species to have a sense spirituality. This experience, to me, is an example of spirituality. One can obviously argue the definition but to me, it’s an awareness and an embrace of the connection that we have with one another and with our environment.
I do not believe in God or a creator but I do feel the need for our species to have a sense spirituality. This experience, to me, is an example of spirituality. One can obviously argue the definition but to me, it’s an awareness and an embrace of the connection that we have with one another and with our environment.
Psychopav
Help us, Joebi-Wan Brynobi, you're our only ho
I take it to mean that proof, in terms of empirical evidence, has no sway one way or the other where faith is concerned. It couldn't, really, for free will to be essential to the system.
matuski
Footballguy
joffer
Footballguy
Psychopav
Help us, Joebi-Wan Brynobi, you're our only ho
If it's a proof then the evidence is incontrovertible. If the evidence is incontrovertible, it's no longer faith. I would say if there is proof then it's no longer faith.
Where the scientific method can be used to address a question, faith is not required, right?
joffer
Footballguy
Well I’d say faith is never required, or desired.Psychopav said:
Proof to me is the wrong word unless you’re talking about math, but that’s semantics.
To me science doesn’t “prove” things, it disproves things and amounts evidence. And the reason I make that distinction is that I disagree with your original statement that “for those that don’t believe, no proof is possible”. I can think of an infinite amount of of things I would consider evidence, and if I saw enough of them, I’d believe. But I still wouldn’t use “proof”.
ChiefD
Footballguy
Ditka Butkus
Footballguy
Perfect thread for this:
Have a lot of things going on work/projects etc., haven't been sleeping well. I have a habit of watching and leaving the T.V. on while falling asleep and sleeping. Wake up some time in the early morning hours and stay awake an hour or so watching said t.v....The other evening I come home and find the cable reception down...Start my investigation and find that my dog has dug a hole and ate my cable leading to my house in half. That night no t.v. so I read about 20 minutes fall asleep and sleep like the dead until the morning alarm. (which by the way I normally wake before the alarm)... So I start pondering, did my dog eat my cable or was there divine intervention and God ate my cable?
Have a lot of things going on work/projects etc., haven't been sleeping well. I have a habit of watching and leaving the T.V. on while falling asleep and sleeping. Wake up some time in the early morning hours and stay awake an hour or so watching said t.v....The other evening I come home and find the cable reception down...Start my investigation and find that my dog has dug a hole and ate my cable leading to my house in half. That night no t.v. so I read about 20 minutes fall asleep and sleep like the dead until the morning alarm. (which by the way I normally wake before the alarm)... So I start pondering, did my dog eat my cable or was there divine intervention and God ate my cable?
ChiefD
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Ditka Butkus
Footballguy
I should probably start being a little nicer to my dog. Because he is a nice dog, and too cover the bases.
TheIronSheik
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Sometimes I like to imagine God in front of dual monitors fending hundreds of extinction events and thousands of epidemics that could kill millions. His desk is littered with empty Mountain Dew cans and an overflowing ashtray. He's feverishly pecking away at his keyboard with bags under his eyes when he gets a post it note put on his desk that says, "From Gary in New Mexico: Thanks a lot for letting my grandma die, jerk. 
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joffer
Footballguy
that's a scene right out of Bruce AlmightySometimes I like to imagine God in front of dual monitors fending hundreds of extinction events and thousands of epidemics that could kill millions. His desk is littered with empty Mountain Dew cans and an overflowing ashtray. He's feverishly pecking away at his keyboard with bags under his eyes when he gets a post it note put on his desk that says, "From Gary in New Mexico: Thanks a lot for letting my grandma die, jerk.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Politician Spock
Footballguy
When did being reminded of your kids become some kind of miracle?
TheIronSheik
SUPER ELITE UPPER TIER
Politician Spock
Footballguy
Silver & Black
Footballguy
I didn't read the whole thread, so I apologize if he did in fact weigh in, but it seems to me, shouldn't we just ask @Godsbrother to ask his brother?
sublimeone
Footballguy
If you really want to know, ask God to reveal himself to you and then be willing to take steps of faith as he reveals more and more. Eventually you will be left without doubt.So, I was raised Catholic. Went to Catholic school with the nuns in habits - whole bit. I then went to public high school, and between that and college plenty of questions came up that I still haven't been able to answer or figure out about the existence (or non-existence of God). I've always leaned to the non-existence side.
So for the next week my wife and 3 kids are out of town for spring break. They left yesterday morning.
I'm out on my run last night, and three things happened, one after another:
1. Saw a penny on the ground. My younger son is a money hound. He always finds change on the ground, so when that happens he always stops and picks it up. So consequently, I always stop and pick it up when I see it. So I stop, grab the penny, smile a bit thinking about him, and keep moving.
2. I have my headphones in listening to Spotify, and I have it on shuffle playing a running playlist I have that is about 70 songs long. Literally seconds after the penny thing, my daughter's favorite song starts playing. I smile again, thinking: "well, I guess she wants to say hi too." and keep running. At this point thoughts are creeping into my head like: "if something happens now that reminds me of my 3rd child...."
3. The VERY NEXT SONG that plays is a song my oldest son told me to put on my playlist, so one of his favorites. I literally throw my head back and laugh out loud. So apparently all three kids wanted to say hi last night.
But then I got to thinking - my whole life I've searched for some proof of the existence of God. By nature I am a cynic on things such as this, but my mind is open enough to at least consider the possibilities. I also know this could be just one hell of a coincidence. But, could this be the sign I've been looking for?
At any rate it's a pretty neat story. Serious and shtick replies welcome.
