We’re More Alike Than You Think (1 Viewer)

[Doug B]

velocity was a fine word, more violent than momentum.

a decade ago, i was warning FFAppers (i remember a Tarantino thread) that they were beginning to pay the price for having taken seriously that which was meant ironically or playfully by deconstructionist Boomers (from Stern to Lucas). guys my size dont live past 70 so, in the next coupla years, i'll be interviewing people to make elegant-but-earnest nyaahnyaahs for me in 2030.

One of my favorite examples of this is the movie Fight Club. I've come to really dislike that film as a result (and also because the underlying premise is idiotic).

I'm having trouble grasping the concept here ... what's being taken seriously that was meant ironically/playfully? And how does Fight Club demonstrate the concept?

 

[Gr00vus]

I'm having trouble grasping the concept here ... what's being taken seriously that was meant ironically/playfully? And how does Fight Club demonstrate the concept?

Many people really bought into the idea of the fight club and the various other violent anarchist type activities done in the movie as a reasonable response to the stressors we all experience without any acknowledgement that the driving force behind it was capitulation to multiple personality disorder and likely clinical insanity as an attempt at dealing with the stressors. Understanding and a path towards inner peace came only after all that was (violently) truncated. For those people, the message was inducing others to beat each other up by literally beating yourself up, and blowing #### up in response to the ills of society == good. That's where they left it.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Some are, some aren't. I don't think there's anything unique about it. Social media just offers a larger platform for the dumb to expose themselves, young and old. When the old were young they didn't have something like that. It doesn't mean them then are tangibly different than them now. Our access to information now  and ability to message spread vs in prior generations is crazy. The problem is what users actually do with that information - then the corresponding message spread. How it's deployed in our 'react to me' soundbite driven profit oriented media. 

There are some great critical thinkers now just as there were then and anytime in between. It's just harder to hear us now because the dumb now have an insurmountably large megaphone.

I had to laugh - I was listening to Jon Stewart on the Rogan podcast and he had a couple good points on the same lines here.  It's not like these are new thoughts people are having or they are just new to this generation.  I think he jokingly described it like that Mel Gibson movie "What Women Want".   These are the thoughts people have had all along, it's just that social media is giving the country the ability to read everybody's thoughts now for better or worse (IMO mostly worse).   On top of that, most of the deep thinkers aren't spending their days blowing up Twitter and Facebook for hours on end, they probably have better things to do with their ideas - teaching, research, etc..   So what what is amplified is the those extreme voices like you point out.   

I also like what you said - sane and rational isn't what sells or gets clicks.  No profit in people calming talking to each other.  

 

[tri-man 47]

My favorite visual on the thread topic.

 

[djmich]

hit up the guillotine thread...some of us are nothing alike

 

[wikkidpissah]

hit up the guillotine thread...some of us are nothing alike

nothing but sameness in those threads. no one could possibly believe they can effect the opinions of others or forge a subsequent, original take together in those kind of threads. nothing but the trumpeting of each's sense that their (or their side's) view is supreme. doesnt get more alike...

 

[woodstock]

nothing but sameness in those threads. no one could possibly believe they can effect the opinions of others or forge a subsequent, original take together in those kind of threads. nothing but the trumpeting of each's sense that their (or their side's) view is supreme. doesnt get more alike...

When you're talking about guillotines and beheading symbolism, people tend to draw hard, unoriginal, and non-synthetic lines. There's nothing wrong with that. 

 

[Gr00vus]

nothing but sameness in those threads. no one could possibly believe they can effect the opinions of others or forge a subsequent, original take together in those kind of threads. nothing but the trumpeting of each's sense that their (or their side's) view is supreme. doesnt get more alike...

I agree with you. I also feel that's pretty much this whole subforum though, isn't it?

 

[wikkidpissah]

When you're talking about guillotines and beheading symbolism, people tend to draw hard, unoriginal, and non-synthetic lines. There's nothing wrong with that. 

i actually have quite a bit to say on that subject, having lost most of my Bezos fanhood due to his recent practices (today is my last day on Prime because of them) being a student of both The Terror and liberation history, but i neither whisper in windtunnels nor shout into ####storms

 

[lazyike]

I got a post from one of my Trump loving friends saying how great it is despite our political differences we can still remain friends. It’s very nice that the party that is saying F### your feelings to you still wants you to be their friend.