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Week 09 2024 who should I start thread **OFFICIALLY UNOFFICIAL** (1 Viewer)

.5 PPR
10 point favorite

Start 2 of..

Tyrone Tracy vs Washington
Jaxon Smith-Njigba vs Rams
Michael Pittman at Minnesota

Have been planning to go with Tracy and Pittman (love Flacco and the matchup) all week, but JSN is ranked much higher than Pittman everywhere. Could also play all 3 and sit DJ Moore.

Thanks!
 
Neal Cassady said:
.5 PPR
10 point favorite

Start 2 of..

Tyrone Tracy vs Washington
Jaxon Smith-Njigba vs Rams
Michael Pittman at Minnesota

Have been planning to go with Tracy and Pittman (love Flacco and the matchup) all week, but JSN is ranked much higher than Pittman everywhere. Could also play all 3 and sit DJ Moore.

Thanks!
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I don't sit Moore personally.

I agree with Pittman & Tracy.

I always say, go with your gut not anyone else's.

JSN is fine and, I assume, the Seahawks passing offense will eventually have a breakout game but, they have been consistently mediocre all year. How long are you going to wait for that big game?

At this point, IMO, waiting to capture that offensive output from the Seahawks has probably cost you 7 out of 8 times. The one big game JSN had was week 2 and it took 16 targets to get there. In week 9 that feels like a distant memory, doesn't it?
 
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Chaka said:
LionOfGosforth said:
The Zack Moss news has given me pause so asking again...please pick 2 from these 3 in standard

Achane @ Bills - Bills have been known to be a run funnel but Mostert steals goal line touches
Monty @ Packers - hard to bench but can be a bit TD-dependent
C.Brown vs Raiders - matchups don't get much better
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I'm not ready to bench Monty. He's TD dependent then again he has a TD in 6 of 7 games and 7 overall. And the only game he didn't score he got knocked out early.

I get it, the logic is there is a correction coming. But, is there? He scored 13 TDs in 14 games last year and Jamaal Williams scored 17 TDs in 17 games the year before. So, yes, I can see benching him in a tough road matchup but... really?

I really like Achane's skill set and he had a monster last week in Tua's first game back. But it is a tough matchup for sure.

Brown has the best matchup by a big margin and it would be interesting to see him with 20 opportunities but which one of your auto starts do you bench for him?

I want to make a recommendation for one of your guys to bench for Brown but I got cute last week and started Javonte over Jonathan Taylor because of the matchup and Taylor's injury status.

It's recency bias for sure because of that but I don't think I can recommend Brown over either of your options ATM.
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This one is still bouncing around in my noggin.

I am in a similar having both Brown & Monty, with Monty on my starting lineup. I am trying to talk myself into Brown.

The best I have so far is, this is the Lions first outdoor game this year.

Chase Brown has averaged 15 touches over the last five games, which is what Monty averages on the season (including the game he left early). Both of them have been heavily TD dependent. Brown has averaged less than 4 yards per touch, 60 yards and a TD over the last five with two receptions/game. Monty is averaging 5.2 yards/touch, 79 yards and a TD on the season with two receptions/game.

Brown has yet to be the big play guy we thought he was going to be back in August. He has three 20+ yard plays (long rush of 30, long reception of 11).

So, the arguments in favor of Brown over Monty are : 1) he has a better matchup 2) he is at home & 3) "He's due"

I hate, hate, hate #3.

Empirically we should start Monty. Now...talk me into Brown.
 
Chaka said:
Chaka said:
LionOfGosforth said:
The Zack Moss news has given me pause so asking again...please pick 2 from these 3 in standard

Achane @ Bills - Bills have been known to be a run funnel but Mostert steals goal line touches
Monty @ Packers - hard to bench but can be a bit TD-dependent
C.Brown vs Raiders - matchups don't get much better
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I'm not ready to bench Monty. He's TD dependent then again he has a TD in 6 of 7 games and 7 overall. And the only game he didn't score he got knocked out early.

I get it, the logic is there is a correction coming. But, is there? He scored 13 TDs in 14 games last year and Jamaal Williams scored 17 TDs in 17 games the year before. So, yes, I can see benching him in a tough road matchup but... really?

I really like Achane's skill set and he had a monster last week in Tua's first game back. But it is a tough matchup for sure.

Brown has the best matchup by a big margin and it would be interesting to see him with 20 opportunities but which one of your auto starts do you bench for him?

I want to make a recommendation for one of your guys to bench for Brown but I got cute last week and started Javonte over Jonathan Taylor because of the matchup and Taylor's injury status.

It's recency bias for sure because of that but I don't think I can recommend Brown over either of your options ATM.
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This one is still bouncing around in my noggin.

I am in a similar having both Brown & Monty, with Monty on my starting lineup. I am trying to talk myself into Brown.

The best I have so far is, this is the Lions first outdoor game this year.

Chase Brown has averaged 15 touches over the last five games, which is what Monty averages on the season (including the game he left early). Both of them have been heavily TD dependent. Brown has averaged less than 4 yards per touch, 60 yards and a TD over the last five with two receptions/game. Monty is averaging 5.2 yards/touch, 79 yards and a TD on the season with two receptions/game.

Brown has yet to be the big play guy we thought he was going to be back in August. He has three 20+ yard plays (long rush of 30, long reception of 11).

So, the arguments in favor of Brown over Monty are : 1) he has a better matchup 2) he is at home & 3) "He's due"

I hate, hate, hate #3.

Empirically we should start Monty. Now...talk me into Brown.
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I'm actually glad you think it's even a decision! Your analysis is spot-on, beyond the matchup (such a trap in so many instances historically) and the being at home factor, there's not much reason to lean this way. It's more a feeling than anything, which just isn't enough really.

Is Love playing? I think that makes more of a difference as it's a higher implied point total and likely to be more of a passing game than if Willis plays. This could affect Monty and might be more of a reason to use Brown over others.

All that said, I think i'm still leaning Monty. Bengals are more of a passing team and Brown, even in good matchups previously, has been inefficient. Trust is somewhat lacking and that's NOT something you'd apply to Monty. I trust him 100%.
 
LionOfGosforth said:
Chaka said:
Chaka said:
LionOfGosforth said:
The Zack Moss news has given me pause so asking again...please pick 2 from these 3 in standard

Achane @ Bills - Bills have been known to be a run funnel but Mostert steals goal line touches
Monty @ Packers - hard to bench but can be a bit TD-dependent
C.Brown vs Raiders - matchups don't get much better
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I'm not ready to bench Monty. He's TD dependent then again he has a TD in 6 of 7 games and 7 overall. And the only game he didn't score he got knocked out early.

I get it, the logic is there is a correction coming. But, is there? He scored 13 TDs in 14 games last year and Jamaal Williams scored 17 TDs in 17 games the year before. So, yes, I can see benching him in a tough road matchup but... really?

I really like Achane's skill set and he had a monster last week in Tua's first game back. But it is a tough matchup for sure.

Brown has the best matchup by a big margin and it would be interesting to see him with 20 opportunities but which one of your auto starts do you bench for him?

I want to make a recommendation for one of your guys to bench for Brown but I got cute last week and started Javonte over Jonathan Taylor because of the matchup and Taylor's injury status.

It's recency bias for sure because of that but I don't think I can recommend Brown over either of your options ATM.
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This one is still bouncing around in my noggin.

I am in a similar having both Brown & Monty, with Monty on my starting lineup. I am trying to talk myself into Brown.

The best I have so far is, this is the Lions first outdoor game this year.

Chase Brown has averaged 15 touches over the last five games, which is what Monty averages on the season (including the game he left early). Both of them have been heavily TD dependent. Brown has averaged less than 4 yards per touch, 60 yards and a TD over the last five with two receptions/game. Monty is averaging 5.2 yards/touch, 79 yards and a TD on the season with two receptions/game.

Brown has yet to be the big play guy we thought he was going to be back in August. He has three 20+ yard plays (long rush of 30, long reception of 11).

So, the arguments in favor of Brown over Monty are : 1) he has a better matchup 2) he is at home & 3) "He's due"

I hate, hate, hate #3.

Empirically we should start Monty. Now...talk me into Brown.
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I'm actually glad you think it's even a decision! Your analysis is spot-on, beyond the matchup (such a trap in so many instances historically) and the being at home factor, there's not much reason to lean this way. It's more a feeling than anything, which just isn't enough really.

Is Love playing? I think that makes more of a difference as it's a higher implied point total and likely to be more of a passing game than if Willis plays. This could affect Monty and might be more of a reason to use Brown over others.

All that said, I think i'm still leaning Monty. Bengals are more of a passing team and Brown, even in good matchups previously, has been inefficient. Trust is somewhat lacking and that's NOT something you'd apply to Monty. I trust him 100%.
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Yeah, for me I also have Gibbs who I am definitely starting and I think rolling with both of them is the right move. Better to try and capture as much of this backfield as possible IMO.

But the matchup, outdoors, roadie etc does have me a little nervous.
 
Standard

Thanks to Higgins I have to choose my backup.

X Worthy vs TB
Skakir vs Mia
Waddle @ Buf

Need 1

Thx
 
djjosee said:
Standard

Thanks to Higgins I have to choose my backup.

X Worthy vs TB
Skakir vs Mia
Waddle @ Buf

Need 1

Thx
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Waddle IMO. You need to still have hope Tua has knocked the rust off enough to start peppering him with accurate targets.

Shakir next. He hasn't been what I had hoped but he's showing serious signs of life for sure.
 
Okay the Chase Brown talk is earworming me.

Last week I had the same ear worm with Javonte and we know how that played out but...


PPR, start 2:
Jonathan Taylor @Min (#3 in y/a (3.9) against and #1 in rush TDs (3) against, #8 v RBs overall in my league)

Monty @ GB (#8 y/a (4.6) #14 TDs (7), #13 v RBs)

Chase Brown v LV (#20 y/a (4.6), #24 TDs (10), #24 v RBs)

Anyone have the intestinal fortitude to tell me to bench Taylor or Monty for Chase?
 
Chaka said:
Okay the Chase Brown talk is earworming me.

Last week I had the same ear worm with Javonte and we know how that played out but...


PPR, start 2:
Jonathan Taylor @Min (#3 in y/a (3.9) against and #1 in rush TDs (3) against, #8 v RBs overall in my league)

Monty @ GB (#8 y/a (4.6) #14 TDs (7), #13 v RBs)

Chase Brown v LV (#20 y/a (4.6), #24 TDs (10), #24 v RBs)

Anyone have the intestinal fortitude to tell me to bench Taylor or Monty for Chase?
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I think I would.

No Z. Moss so he's the only game in town with a great matchup. Also, T. Higgins doubtful.

I'd then lean Taylor as Flacco should have that offense functional and should get a decent amount of touches.
 
Add/drop question. PPR.

* Question: Drop Z. Moss?

The C. Brown takeover seems to be taking place, and now Moss is doubtful. Add to that the upcoming schedule: @BALT, @LAC, Bye, PIT. He's unstartable for a month.

My RBs:

* J. Jacobs, J. Conner, C. Hubbard, T. Tracy, B. Allen, Z. Moss.

Available: B. Corum, T. Benson (for Conner), E. Wilson (for Jacobs), J. Wright, T. Chandler, I. Guerrendo.

Also could take a flyer on Coker or P. Washington (own B. Thomas).

Drop or keep?

Thanks
 
Chaka said:
Okay the Chase Brown talk is earworming me.

Last week I had the same ear worm with Javonte and we know how that played out but...


PPR, start 2:
Jonathan Taylor @Min (#3 in y/a (3.9) against and #1 in rush TDs (3) against, #8 v RBs overall in my league)

Monty @ GB (#8 y/a (4.6) #14 TDs (7), #13 v RBs)

Chase Brown v LV (#20 y/a (4.6), #24 TDs (10), #24 v RBs)

Anyone have the intestinal fortitude to tell me to bench Taylor or Monty for Chase?
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I might go Brown over Monty. No bad options here, but I am always inclined to use the RB who’ll get a majority of touches over a clear RBBC guy.

The chances of DET going way way up seem lower to me than the Bengals staying close with OAK. Game script should favor Brown over Monty.

Again, no bad options, but that’s my gut call.
 
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Chaka said:
Okay the Chase Brown talk is earworming me.

Last week I had the same ear worm with Javonte and we know how that played out but...


PPR, start 2:
Jonathan Taylor @Min (#3 in y/a (3.9) against and #1 in rush TDs (3) against, #8 v RBs overall in my league)

Monty @ GB (#8 y/a (4.6) #14 TDs (7), #13 v RBs)

Chase Brown v LV (#20 y/a (4.6), #24 TDs (10), #24 v RBs)

Anyone have the intestinal fortitude to tell me to bench Taylor or Monty for Chase?
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It’s supposed to rain in GB, so that favors Monty.
 
PPR flex

J.Jacobs RB/GB vs Det
R.White RB/TB at KC

Jacobs probably a no-brainer if healthy, but it doesn't sound like he is. Neither matchup is awesome, but White should be involved in the passing game because all the WRs are hurt.
 
Between injuries and byes, got a pretty ambiguous bottom of my WR room (PPR)

I think I'm starting these 2 guys:

Reed vs DET
Jakobi @ CIN

But wondering if I should sub in one or both of these guys:

Shakir vs MIA
Tillman vs LAC
 
Buffalo def vs Miami

Or

Chargers def @ Browns

Essentially who will have the worse game, Miami and Tua on the road or Browns w Winston at home.

Consensus seems to think LAC are the better play. Not sure…
 
tkrull1 said:
PPR flex

J.Jacobs RB/GB vs Det
R.White RB/TB at KC

Jacobs probably a no-brainer if healthy, but it doesn't sound like he is. Neither matchup is awesome, but White should be involved in the passing game because all the WRs are hurt.
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Jacobs leads the league in attempts and is averaging 4.6 per carry. White will get you more receptions but Jacobs is probably going to see heavy usage as the Pack tries to protect Love (or Willis).

Jacobs>White

IMO
 
kylechoffman said:
Lions D (Rostered) or drop them for Titan or NE?
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The concern I have for dropping the Lions is if it would be difficult to reacquire them next week if they make the rumored trade for Za'Darius Smith.

Coin flip between Titans & NE. Personally I went with Tenn D this week in the Offense/Defense thread.
 
Insein said:
Kenneth Walker or Tyrone Tracy in the flex.
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Interesting problem. Similar matchups.

I probably go with Walker because 1) he has been very productive 2) they use him at the goal line and 3) the belief the Commanders have a better chance of blowing out the Giants (limiting rush opportunities) than the Rams do to the Seahawks.

But it's close enough to go with your gut.
 
rjax said:
Between injuries and byes, got a pretty ambiguous bottom of my WR room (PPR)

I think I'm starting these 2 guys:

Reed vs DET
Jakobi @ CIN

But wondering if I should sub in one or both of these guys:

Shakir vs MIA
Tillman vs LAC
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Reed is a whack-a-mole kinda guy, but when you capture one of his big games you're set well for the week.

But, I can easily see chasing the dragon with Tillman, despite the very tough matchup.

To me it's a coin flip between those two. Tillman probably has a safer floor and similar upside.
 
eagles 123 said:
Buffalo def vs Miami

Or

Chargers def @ Browns

Essentially who will have the worse game, Miami and Tua on the road or Browns w Winston at home.

Consensus seems to think LAC are the better play. Not sure…
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It's defenses, they're random number generators.

I think the Bills have had the Dolphins number for years now. Josh Allen is 11-2 against them and there have been a bunch of blowouts over that time. I think that is the game that is more likely to provide big play opportunities (sacks/INTs).

The Chargers are a great real world defense but I think they play ugly ball and make their opponents play ugly ball. You're more likely to get yardage or scoring bonuses with them. The best argument for them is Winston's history of turning the ball over.

For me...
BUF>LAC

Go with your gut.
 
PPR league. Need a flex.

* B. Thomas at PHI - Reports indicate he's "expected to play." That said it's a 4pm game so there's risk the rug is pulled out from under you if you wait. Looks like G. Davis is iffy too so if active, he's getting targeted heavily probably in a game of catchup.

* JSN vs LAR -- Now, I could wait for B. Thomas news and if he's out, I could sub in JSN. However, the LAR's vs slot WRs is a bad matchup so even with DK out this could be a bad spot.

* C. Hubbard vs NO -- Good matchup. NO rush D has gone south. CAR D could score some points this week with NO secondary all banged up. 1 PM game. Chubba the safest choice.

Note: I'm a heavy favorite.

Which?

Thanks
 
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Yeah, yeah, yeah...kicker question:

* B. Groupe @CAR -- Had 22 points in first meeting. Carr back. Offense should be better. Game outdoors in CAR though.

* J. Elliot vs JAX -- PHI offense humming now. Good matchup vs JAX. However, I'm starting Hurts and PHI tends to go for it on 4th.

* E. McPherson vs LV -- Good matchup, but LV may be able to keep this close. Cinci offense is slooooow paced.

Which?

Thanks
 
kyoun1e said:
PPR league. Need a flex.

* B. Thomas at PHI - Reports indicate he's "expected to play." That said it's a 4pm game so there's risk the rug is pulled out from under you if you wait. Looks like G. Davis is iffy too so if active, he's getting targeted heavily probably in a game of catchup.

* JSN vs LAR -- Now, I could wait for B. Thomas news and if he's out, I could sub in JSN. However, the LAR's vs slot WRs is a bad matchup so even with DK out this could be a bad spot.

* C. Hubbard vs NO -- Good matchup. NO rush D has gone south. CAR D could score some points this week with NO secondary all banged up. 1 PM game. Chubba the safest choice.

Note: I'm a heavy favorite.

Which?

Thanks
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I lean Hubbard but I can easily argue for Thomas. Not particularly interested in JSN.
 
kyoun1e said:
Yeah, yeah, yeah...kicker question:

* B. Groupe @CAR -- Had 22 points in first meeting. Carr back. Offense should be better. Game outdoors in CAR though.

* J. Elliot vs JAX -- PHI offense humming now. Good matchup vs JAX. However, I'm starting Hurts and PHI tends to go for it on 4th.

* E. McPherson vs LV -- Good matchup, but LV may be able to keep this close. Cinci offense is slooooow paced.

Which?

Thanks
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Zero ability to help. My guess is the Bengals win and score the most points but, really no clue.
 
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